Leading article

Who will be held to account for the horror in Rotherham?

A child abuse scandal on this monstrous scale demands more than just the council leader's resignation

30 August 2014

9:00 AM

30 August 2014

9:00 AM

If Rotherham council were a family, its children would have been removed by social services long ago, and Ma and Pa Rotherham would be safely behind bars. Professor Alexis Jay’s report, which was published this week, reveals depravity on an industrial scale in the South Yorkshire town. At least 1,400 children, Prof. Jay estimates, were subjected to sexual exploitation between 1997 and 2013. Many were raped multiple times by members of gangs whose activities either were or should have been known about. Children were trafficked around the country to be abused. Those who put up resistance were beaten. And when they complained they were treated with contempt by the people who were employed to protect them.

We don’t hold out much hope that anyone in a position of authority will be going to jail, nor even that anyone will lose their pension. Roger Stone OBE, leader of the Labour-run council for the past 11 years, has ‘stepped down’, saying that he would be taking responsibility. There was no mention of the 71-year-old Mr Stone ceding his pension, and neither did he show much in the way of contrition; he seemed to see his resignation as a noble act, falling on his sword so that his minions might continue in employment.

It is always the same with public authorities and scandals relating to children in care. No one is ever to blame, only ‘systems’. There is always room, of course, for these nebulous ‘systems’ to be improved. But there must never be any finger-pointing. If, on rare occasions, people are forced out of their jobs, then an action for unfair dismissal invariably follows.

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If Rotherham Council’s social services department does have anything that deserves to be described as a ‘system’, it is a deeply flawed one. How can a child, entrusted to the care of the state, end up being delivered into the arms of abusers, the very thing that children’s services are supposed to be there to prevent? Worse, how can it happen to hundreds of children and still no one act to stop it?

It has been reported that no one in the council felt strong enough to challenge the mainly Asian gangs that perpetrated the abuse for fear of accusations of racism. It’s true that racism, even of the inadvertent kind, has — along with sexism and homophobia — been turned into such a heinous crime in the eyes of public-sector functionaries that many would rather turn a blind eye to child rape than risk such accusations. Rotherham Council’s children’s services last made headlines when it removed three eastern European children from their Ukip-supporting foster parents. One of its functionaries explained it was concerned about Ukip’s opposition to the ‘active promotion of multiculturalism’.

It is a pity that the council was not as concerned about the systematic abuse of the children supposedly under its care. As Colin Brewer explains on page 16, there’s also something inherently fishy about the pseudo-scientific nature of social work and how social workers are trained.

But there is a bigger sickness in Rotherham, and in other councils where similar scandals have taken place: the bias towards secrecy. Wherever children are involved, the default position on the part of public authorities seems to be that they should keep information about their failures under their institutional hats — out of concern, naturally, for the privacy of the children involved. Yes, of course, the privacy of children has to be protected. But often what is really being protected is the privacy of the social workers and other staff involved. The wellbeing of hundreds of children is, in this way, sacrificed in order not to disturb careers and retirements.

Social workers always come into the firing line when scandals involving children come to light — and that is right. But we should not ignore, either, the astonishing failure of the police. The Rotherham scandal is not a historic case which we can pretend would not happen in this day and age: the timescale of the abuse uncovered by Prof. Jay runs from the beginning of Tony Blair’s premiership to last year. It commenced well after the care of children became subject to the much-vaunted ‘multi-agency’ approach, where social workers, police, teachers, doctors and so on are all supposed to work together. Echoing what happened in Rochdale, the Jay report finds that police treated victims ‘with contempt’.

We are in the middle of an investigation into sexual exploitation of children and adults by celebrities and other public figures dating back more than 50 years. Some of this is certainly genuine; some of it may be moral panic. But one thing is for sure. The allegations of historic groping that we read about on a weekly basis are dwarfed by the kinds of scandals we have seen in Rochdale and Rotherham — scandals which, besides being of a graver nature and on a worse scale, are happening beneath our noses, in the present. There will be no drawing a line under them until all those who let this happen have been held to account.


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  • Chris Banks

    Burnley, Blackburn, Birmingham, Bolton, Bury, Bradford and Leeds have issues with systematic child abuse networks perpetuated by Pakistani Muslims.

    The press or police could target and find all those involved within one month by targeting certain well known take aways in deprived areas. They won’t though because it’s been going on for over 15 years.

    • WorthSayingAgain

      Dame Elizabeth Butler Sloss’s enquiry will report soon. No stone has been left unturned. Oh.

      • 1498

        Abuse within the Pakistani community is just the tip of the iceberg. The British media has conveniently avoided, reporting or investigating, upon a supposed paedophile ring which operated from Westminster in the 1970’s.
        The ‘Elm house’ scandal in London, involving high profile politicians appears to have been buried. Why the lack of media curiousity of the major story?
        Labour Politicians Harriet Harman & Patricia Hewitt (among others) were involved in a Civil Liberties group in the 70’s. This group was affiliated to & campaigned alongside, the notorious ‘Paedophile Information Exchange’ – for the full legalisation & acceptance of paedophilia. This group may even have received government funding.
        Reporting on abuse within the Pakistani community is one thing.
        But when will our media acknowledge the other ‘elephant in the room’ – the Westminster & Elm House scandal.

        • WorthSayingAgain

          Islam and the British establishment have common purpose in that both are culturally pedophile. That’s why the elite in London cover up for the Asian muslim pedophile rapists.

          • shaunthebrummie

            rotherham…muslims and labour in action….one raping and the other covering up…

          • Eldridge Davis

            Yep. Can’t show multiculturalism in such a negative light even though recently the labour government came out (shockingly enough if you ask me) and said ‘mistakes’ were made during immigration. I should say bloody so!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuprjD3umEo&list=UU6Mc3WJ_zIIMBmTADg_Kv4Q

    • voiceforlogic

      I agree, but it is not that long ago that all the “experts” were constantly saying that the main abusers were close family members and close friends.

      This problem is active right across the spectrum of society. But if nobody goes looking for trouble they are not going to find it.

      Then there is the sector of under aged that do go looking for sex with older men that their parents have next to no control over and get no support from any service. 60 years ago girls as young as 8 were actively seeking sex.And now with them all having personal phones I am sure there are more involved and it makes parental control much more difficult if not impossible.

      • Damaris Tighe

        “60 years ago girls as young as 8 were actively seeking sex.” Can you say more about that?

        • Lydia Robinson

          Don’t bother. It’s a loony toons. I was around 60 years ago and I don’t think I even knew what sex was. I do remember playing with dolls and reading my Rupert the Bear Annual though.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Well, that’s what I thought which is why I asked. Thanks for replying.

          • voiceforlogic

            You have had a sheltered life and just because you were innocent it does not mean everyone was.

            At the same time I knew a 15 year old male who would not accept how his mother became pregnant and he had a fight over it.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Well you’ve made a statement, created a mystery, & I’m as puzzled as when we started.

          • voiceforlogic

            No mystery just facts

          • colchar

            When did we change the definition of ‘facts’ to ‘crap that you made up’? Personally, I didn’t get that memo.

          • voiceforlogic

            Well if you are clever enough you might get the next one.

          • carledgar

            As a child in the 50s I didn’t play with dolls, lol, but I certainly did read my RUPERT annual and – roll on Friday night when I got my pocket money and bought the Beano and the Dandy (later the Hotspur and the Adventure)

            Carl/Ottawa – Canada

            I have seen videos of the scenes alluded to in parts of Scandinavia (all countries of which I have visited in happier times) but this Rotheringham story reaches new heights of obscenity

        • voiceforlogic

          I will not name names, so what do you want to know ?

          • Damaris Tighe

            No of course not – but you’re implying a social phenomenon & I’d just like to know more – in general – about it.

          • voiceforlogic

            There is nothing more I can say without risking the individuals being identified by others – sorry but you will either accept it as true or not that is your choice.

            All my comments are factual.

          • colchar

            Really? I haven’t seen one yet. You obviously have a different definition of ‘factual’ than the rest of us.

          • voiceforlogic

            If you take the trouble to look you will see them – they are there for all to see – that is if you do not want someone to hold your hand.

      • Bob Gunter

        I see you are selling PIE’s. Have you no shame?

        • voiceforlogic

          Na then porky what are you talking about ?

    • edithgrove

      for almost 50 years actually

    • Callan

      If the police spent half the time doing what you suggest as they have spent pursuing offences which took place half a century ago a lot of children would not have suffered and a lot of the Pakistani abusers would be in prison. Why didn’t they? Scarman and McPherson have them terrified of going anywhere near ethnic crime so targeting the septuagenarian offenders was a much less risky enterprise. Not to mention all that publicity as smug senior officers posed and mouthed platitudes in front of the cameras.

      • IainRMuir

        A few years ago I recall reading about plods in Gloucester sitting in Indian restaurants trying uncover instances of racist language.

        Good use of time, that. Far nicer than driving up the M5 and doing some real policing.

        • Damaris Tighe

          Yes but you don’t get a vindaloo for driving up the M5.

        • Callan

          Not gilding the lily but a decade or more ago four P.C.’s were in the police canteen in Liverpool. One of them made a politically incorrect remark. One of the four reported the offender and he was duly sacked. The other two, who hadn’t reported the incident were disciplined and threatened with the sack for not reporting the incident. The P.C. who snitched only did so because he thought one of the other two would and he, himself would then be in trouble. So Scarman and McPherson had terrified The Chief Constable then and this had filtered down the ranks so the whole Force was paranoid over political correctness. Indeed a friend of mine, a Superintendent in a Police Force overseas attended the Police College at Bramshill and was flabbergasted when the main subject for lectures and discussion the fortnight he was there was “political correctness” and crime never got a mention.

          • MikeF

            The other consequence of this attitude is that the police are afraid to take any sort of impartial view of complaints of ‘racist’ language or actions – provided they are made by members of an ethnic minority – however little credibility they may possess and will seek to prosecute them come what may. They are quite simply too afraid of being accused of ‘racism’ themselves to do anything else.

          • Gwangi

            Yes, because the ridiculous McPhearson report states that PERCEPTION trumps EVIDENCE – so if someone (esp someone ‘of colour’, though probably not a smurf) PERCEIVES that they have been a victim of racism, racist abuse etc, than that PROVES they have been!
            It’s as absurd as the whole concept of self-definition, where you can say you are black even if you are not, because that is your right.
            I always used to tell my students that if they really needed to call the police for anything, to just say there’d been a racist attack – because that leapfrogs over all the other trivial matters (mugging by vibrant and diverse criminals, violent attacks, theft, raype etc) and jumps to the top of the plod queue, together with those who say rude words on Twitter, Facebook and emails. Ah to be in England in the summertime eh? Makes you proud to be a Pakistani criminal!

            Having said all that, a case a while back where 3 Asians smashed up Asian restaurants whilst using racist language decided that the motivation as NOT racism, so the use of racist language does NOT prove racism per se.

          • colchar

            The sad fact is that being a racist moron has become a crime in Britain due to the thought police. A few months ago here where I live in Canada a local white girl went online and complained vociferously about the local Asian community and used some racist language in doing so. Some people were speaking out advocating that the police charge here and their response was “Charge her with what? She hasn’t committed any crime and is free to speak her mind as there is no law against being an ignorant idiot.” Now just imagine if that had happened in Britain – she would have been jailed. The government and police in Britain have their priorities severely screwed up. I am not condoning racism, but it should not be a criminal offense and certainly should not be treated like a capital offense as so often seems to happen in Britain.

            I am not sure what happened to good old British common sense, but I think the Left has successfully drummed it out of people to the point that being an ignorant racist is now deemed more serious than damned near killing someone unless, of course, you are a Muslim in which case the authorities wouldn’t dare do anything, no matter what you said, out of fear of causing offense (and how the hell has ‘causing distress’ become a criminal offense????). As much as I love so many things about Britain I simply couldn’t move back there as my head would explode due to the pervasive stupidity of the authorities there.

          • Icebow

            A correction will be needed. Following assent of the Cultural Marxism (Eradication) Act, all personnel files in the country must be gone through for any trace of ‘political correctness’, and a bonfire of any that mention ‘diversity’, ‘equality’ etc..

          • Vinay N

            What’s often overlooked is that Labour did not want to upset its muslim votebank. Political correctness I think is really a mind control tool to influence the general population by people who are really Marxist/Stalinist at heart. The sacrifice of thousands of girls on the altar of left wing ideology is Stalinist. Lefties allways use the term “Asian” and this really annoys hindus and sikhs, it reveals their callousness and casual disdain for the truth.

            Political correctness has the potential to destroy the UK. If the muslims population rises to 20% then it could lead a muslim majority in all the cities. Islam has its own worldview which is not compatible with democracy. All muslims are not Islamic fanatics but so what? why gamble with the social fabric of the UK. The lefties want to rule a fragmented society and use muslims as a vote bank; this is their dark vision,

    • Dutchnick

      It is of note that nearly these areas are Labour fiefdoms and have been for ever, They are the bastions of PC twaddle and consider the totality of immigration as one group whereas there are considerable differences and there is no harm in objective comment but all comments bring the charge of racism. Other immigrant groups like the Sikhs, Hindus, West Indians are all groups participating and growing into communities that enrich our country and integrate and more important, wish to do so. 50% male and 75% female unemployment and astonishingly high level of being ‘on the sick’ shown that the Pakistani community is not integrating and with around a 2% intermarrying rate shows a community that is not wanting to be part of our society.This not only causes the traditional UK values and tolerance to be strained but actually becomes a threat to civilisation as we know it.

      • Lydia Robinson

        It’s not just here. In the ultra-liberal PC Sweden which has welcomed Muslim immigration, they have been rewarded by no-go areas, criminality, car burning and rioting. I am of immigrant stock myself and it pains me to say that these people do not belong here and will never fit in.

        • Terry Field

          Soon these people will be removed by European states who have offered citizenship and been rewarded with barbaric violent and repulsive behaviour more suited to the Middle Ages or the foul states they come from. There is no Gods Law that they cannot be removed. The local politicians simply have to effect the required changes.

          • Pootles

            ‘Soon’ ? I doubt it, very much.

          • colchar

            I doubt it will ever happen.

          • Pootles

            Yes. We’re in, sort of, last of the Mohicans territory. The early stages. But the endstate will come.

          • colchar

            No politician would ever have the guts to do that as the Lefties would lose their freakin’ minds.

          • Terry Field

            New politics and new poiticians will do what is needed as this miserable failure of a politic collapses in violnt disorder. Millions are spitting nails in anger at the actions of these monstrous moslems.

        • Dominic

          You forgot to mention the many cases of rape by Muslim rapists. The victims are always Swedish non-Muslims. the same thing has happened in Denmark. That is the thanks you get for stupid liberal attitudes.

      • Pootles

        Next Spring, the voters of these areas will have the chance to get rid of Labour MPs who sit for these party fiefdoms. Will they? Don’t bet on it!

      • Chris

        You lost me at ‘enrich’.

    • David John
    • Eldridge Davis

      In the name of being tolerant and open to diversity and multiculturalism Europe won’t do anything. Nobody here wants to appear racist. So that is why things like this continue to go on. Its the same thing in Sweden and Norway. Muslim man attacking and raping white women. Look at these stats. Tell me why do Sweden, Belgium, and New Zealand have a higher percentage of rapes than the USA? A country of 315 million people. And Norway and Finland are not that far behind. How in the world can some of the most peaceful and open minded and free nations on earth (Sweden, Norway, Belgium, New Zealand, and Finland) have such high numbers of rape? Muslims. Plain and simple. Hell, a Swedish politician was even fined for saying this. Even though its true!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#mediaviewer/File:Rape_rate_per_100,000_-_country_comparison_-_United_Nations_2012.png

      • voiceforlogic

        The answer maybe that Derringer the Americans carry in their handbag.

        • Eldridge Davis

          Nah…the civil liberties organizations and the labor government would just complain about the rights of the rapists and child molesters being abused.

          • colchar

            So would the apparatchiks in the EU.

          • Eldridge Davis

            Yep.

          • Phleb

            I happen to carry the Austrian Glock. Low recoil, deadly accuracy in my hand.
            I can attest to the fact, as a female from Texas at 105lb, never been raped or assaulted.

          • Eldridge Davis

            Good for you sweetie! I am happy that this is the case. Here in Europe many have taken a completely different attitude. They actually think that the authorities care for them or are going to be there to protect them. Imagine if this happened in the USA? Over 1,400 girls being gang raped for over 16 years and nobody doing a damn thing about it.

          • Phleb

            It is hard to imagine and heartbreaking. When I first stumbled across this article, I had so many questions. After hours of reading, there are still many questions unanswered.

            There was a similar scandal here back in 1989 I think labeled the ‘Franklin Sex Ring’. It was at a boys home and the allegations went up to the highest levels of government including our judges. Of course it was covered up very nicely.

            I think the most noteworthy fact is they targeted troubled boys because you know if they accuse you of rape and sodomy, who are you to believe, the supposed “pillar” of society or some kid who’s history is trouble.

      • Lisa Wilkie

        As a New Zealander, I can (un)happily let you know that the majority of sexual assaults (including rape) in this country (8.4 per 10,000 according to official police statistics for 2013) are perpetrated by New Zealanders of European descent. Take your ugly, anti-Muslim rhetoric elsewhere.

        • Eldridge Davis

          Oops. I’m sorry. It is Sweden (66.5 per 100,000 people), Belgium (27.6), and Norway (22.3) where the majority of sexual assaults (including rape) are perpetrated. As matter of fact, Sweden is the rape capital of Europe and the perpetrators are of Middle Eastern descent (Muslims). My ugly anti-Muslim rhetoric? Oh, yes. Because Islam is a religion of peace. Including the Muslims that gang raped these white women in Rotherham. Let me guess. Your a liberal right? Well, when New Zealand is over run with Muslim hordes like Europe is than you can talk to me. Funny enough, a Swedish politician openly stated that Muslims were responsible for the vast majority of rapes in Sweden and was fined of a hate crime.

          http://topconservativenews.com/2014/05/swedish-politician-convicted-of-a-crime-for-posting-statistics-about-rape-on-facebook/

          I guess its bye bye free speech and democracy in Europe. And its people like you (we have many apologist like you here in Europe) that are letting it happen.

          • Lola Mac

            Citing Top Conservative News? Any reason for doing so paints you in a less than flattering light.

          • Eldridge Davis

            1) You do know the difference between a organization that REPORTS the news and one that PROPAGANDIZES it right?

            2) The source from the TCN that is used is the Swedish Free Times (Sweden News Reporting Agency). Did you even bother to make an effort to look? Or did you just see the name Top Conservative News and reply to me based off of that?

            3) Just in case your still having a hard time understanding all of this here is the SAME STORY reported BUT this time I am CITING a SWEDISH NEWS ORGANIZATION. The page will first be in SWEDISH but then will translate (or give you the option to). If you are still having trouble with this Google: Swedish politician fined for criticizing Islam (or Muslims) for rapes. It was also reported by the BBC.

            http://www.friatider.se/sd-politiker-d-ms-f-r-islamkritik

          • shaunthebrummie

            rotherham…..muslims in action..following the koran….copying mohammed….

          • Eldridge Davis

            Yep, and apologist trying to defend them. Recently, a Muslim man from Vancouver, Canada was sentenced to five years for sex trafficking of girls as young as 14. He was charged with 30 counts and the RCMP spokesman said that there are currently over 30 investigations of this type being conducted. But Islam is a religion of peace? Muslims are peaceful individuals? Than why are they performing such heinous acts in countries like Norway, Sweden, Belgium, Canada, etc? Here is the video. You decide. To think I use to be a liberal (labour party here in the UK) but my eyes have opened and I have seen the light as it were. I was brainwashed by the cult belief of multiculturalism. I will no longer tolerate the intolerable though.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJmtno_QqWc

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            Swedish jurisprudence, where the truth is no defence.

          • Eldridge Davis

            That is quickly becoming the truth of most of Europe. I see more and more governments in Europe turning a blind eye and pretending like these problems that we are having with Islam do not exist.

        • Paul

          Shut up you ignorant women.

        • videosavant

          While you may well be a New Zealander, in actual fact your most prominent identifying characteristic is your exemplary ability to deny the reality in front of you and then to present it with sneering, self-serving righteousness.

          But then, this is exactly what makes useful idiots so darn useful.

          • Eldridge Davis

            Muslim apologist. In an effort to keep in line with lie of multiculturalism liberals (I use to be one) have bought into the idea of tolerating the intolerable. They are afraid to appear racist or be labeled racist. Its the same reason why the authorities allowed the incidents in Rotherham to continue after they received reports of what was going on. They turned a blind eye. They didn’t want to rock the boat. Diversity and tolerance of the intolerable was the only thing that seemed to concern them. And now its even hit Canada. But Islam is a religion of peace right?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJmtno_QqWc

        • John Smith

          Yeah. Take it to Sweden, Norway or, say, Rotherham, England!

        • Joanna

          I think you tell porkies.

        • charlottesays

          Lisa Wilkie you are a rape enabler. You’d rather defend an ideology which supports rape (and emphasises it is okay for the rape to end in pregnancy because it must have been meant to be) than face the truth.

          • Eldridge Davis

            Yep. Apologists for Islam. The Western world is littered with them. How else could incidents like this happen all over the place? Even now in bloody Canada! There is no hiding it anymore!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJmtno_QqWc

        • shaunthebrummie

          and what is the % of population in New Zealand that is white extraction…and % that is muslim extraction…..

        • Phleb

          *Rape victims In NZ only 9% of sexual offences get reported to police, and of those only 13% of rapes resulted in convictions. The median age of victims is 23 and Europeans account for 61% of the victims.

          I’m combing the internet for facts about rape in ND. Found this interesting tidbit.

          I’ll keep looking….

          • Phleb

            I give up. I can’t find a ‘who’ rapes on the official N.Z. police statistics page.

        • pp22pp

          I live in NZ, too. Maori and PI’s don’t come out of this well. Remember Jia Glassie and the Kahui twins. NZ so far has been spared this, no thanks to f00ls like you. You know NOTHING.

  • SonOfTheIsles

    A good public stoning would be fitting for these collaborators.

    • Terry Field

      What about the Labour politicians – the national scale here is so immense THEY MUST HAVE KNOWN.
      It is impossible not to have known.

      • IGiveUp

        It seems that a vote was more important to them than a child’s welfare. They DID know but ‘didn’t want to rock the boat’. I could scream with fury.

        • Terry Field

          She and dromey are there for all to see.
          They MUST be investigated, along with the entire NewLabor ex – cabinet.
          That party is finished.
          It MUST be abolished.
          THIS GOVERNMENT SHOULD ACT AGAINST THIS ULTIMATE CORRUPTION.

      • SonOfTheIsles

        As with Harman and PIE.

    • c777

      Tar and Feathers

    • FrenchNewsonlin

      …or a beheading?

  • WorthSayingAgain

    This has been covered up by the London media elite too. The worst of it is still covered up.

    • WorthSayingAgain

      And they, including the Spectator, would still be covering it up if it wasn’t for the alternative media and social networking.

      • Callan

        You only have to look across at the Daily Telegraph where all comments on this scandal have been closed to confirm what you claim here is correct.

        • Harry Pond

          They have closed their comments because they know what the vast majority of their readers think and are frightened of being labelled racist- just like the ineffectual well paid goons that have been running Rotherham for the past fifty years.

        • WorthSayingAgain

          I’m banned from the Telegraph – as are a lot of other people – for posting on this subject when the Telegraph just doesn’t want to know. The elite in London couldn’t give a stuff. Their privileges aren’t threatened (yet) by islamification so they just don’t care.

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            “I’m banned from the Telegraph” Make that the Catholic Daily Telegraph.

            So was I, some two years ago. Was it something I said? Perhaps it was showing up their so-called professional journalists as Liberal Arts Muppets. “Call yourselves professional journalists? I’ve known smarter washerwomen.”

      • Dogzzz

        The elite media are reporting this outrageous scandal is if it is one isolated case in one town that has now ended.

        That is an attempt at continuing the cover-up known as “Limited hangout”

        There are hundreds of these racist Islamic rapists at large. They are still raping children all over the country. This abuse is on going.

        When the media report shock at what happened, we all should remind them that the correct word to use is “happening”

        What is being done to stop it? Not much from what I can tell.

        • WorthSayingAgain

          The number of incidents in Rotherham is rising. Nothing that has happened has stopped the muslims from grooming and raping children. The muslim population is increasing exponentially – the situation is only going to get worse.

      • Livia

        The Times broke this story, they aren’t an alternative media source.

        • Pootles

          The BNP and the EDL ‘broke’ the story. And what thanks did they get? The NF damned PIE, and the NCCL (with its Harmans and Dromys), defended them.

        • WorthSayingAgain

          The Times broke the story in 2011 (I think), 14 years after the rapes started and 11 years after Nick Griffin first spoke out against it in Keighley. Even in 2011 the Times was yelled down by the rest of the London Media.

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            “Nick was right”
            The new catch phrase.

          • George Smiley

            Nick Griffin = MI5.

          • Giles Humphry

            No, the Times broke the story in 2003. I’ve known about this for years. If you haven’t don’t blame the Times. It was the duty of other media to follow up. They didn’t.

    • Treebrain

      Denis MacShane was the MP for Rotherham and his former partner, Joan Smith, actually wrote an article for The Guardian defending politicians.

      I wonder if she will write one now about how McShane failed the vulnerable children in his constituency?

      After all, as a self-proclaimed feminist she would surely be interested in female exploitation?

  • voiceforlogic

    Mr Wright is wrong and should stand down.

    But who ever drafted the contract of employment should apologise for providing these Police Commissioners with a bullet proof contract – farcical.

    But this problem goes back many years I recall in the 50s or 60s it was reported in the Yorkshire Evening Post that child care homes in LEEDS had a problem of controlling the children in their care. They were powerless in stopping children being openly collected by known pimps.

    Plus on the racist note, The Race Relations Board misused their powers by defending people who were in violation of planning laws etc., to such an extent that Councils could not afford the time and cost to prosecute cases. So many Asian immigrants failed to abide by building regulations and planning procedures whilst English people had to.or be prosecuted.

    So the Race Relations Board needs investigating as well, as they have contributed to this fear of taking action where immigrants are involved. Not forgetting they had virtually unlimited time and funds. Where as Local Authorities do not

    We have open racism in the police force and in Lawyers with the Black Solicitors Network & similar for Police Officers

    But it is illegal to have a White only associations or clubs.

    We constantly here from the vocal black section of complaining about being deprived and picked on but they are just as vocal in turning the race laws upside down to obtain such privileges.

    We need the same laws for all as this is what makes the whites feel ignored and suppressed.

    • Terry Field

      The race relations board is as corrupted as the rest of the putrid NewLabour social engineering structure,

  • beenzrgud

    The rot goes from top to bottom in this country . Few of those actually employed to serve the public interest, and also in a sufficiently senior role, appear keen to perform their primary function. I think it is fair to say many of them have another agenda, whether that be career progression, political objective, or something else. One thing I can say with a degree of certainty is that this situation is unlikely to change. In many respects I’m hoping that this latest horror proves to be the catalyst that will make people rise up and demand better, for I think that this is the only thing that will make those in power actually sit up and listen. To all intents ahd purposes anything less would prove ineffective since for our leaders the law and facing censequences for ones actions are things which only apply to the ‘little people’.

  • Raddiy

    It never fails to amaze me how seamlessly those who defended this secrecy by hiding behind a wall of silence in the media on this and other issues and I include the Spectator, can seamlessly become the moral crusader without a hint of embarrassment or shame.

    It was parties like UKIP and even the BNP, along with a small selection of brave individuals who have exposed themselves to the vitriol of the mindless morons crying racism, who have dragged these issues into the public arena, whilst idiots like Dan ‘they’re all racists’ Hodges now backpedalling in the Telegraph, carries much of the blame for this travesty continuing.

    Blame and bring to justice everybody involved in Rotheram, but never forget the national political establishment of all three parties, and their useful idiots in the media should not be allowed to escape their share of the blame.

  • JoeDM

    1400 in one town. How many in Birmingham, Bradford, Luton, Tower Hamlets, …, etc.?

  • wycombewanderer

    It goes to the top of the left wing metropolitan common purpose enemy within.

    It goes to the top of the labour party.

    Nothing will be done.

  • Gwangi

    Indeed, but let’s remember some facts: 1) most abused children are abused by their parents and step-parents or family members; 2) one third of child secks abuse is done by other children; 3) ‘strange’ men are responsible for a teeny tiny amount of child abuse and kids are safer than ever before (around 5 abducted and killed every year, same stat as 50 years ago)
    .
    Sadly the general public is comprised or twits who cannot assess risk. Therefore, we have PAEDO-MANIA in the UK where all mean are basically considered to be paedophiles unless they constantly prove their innocence and remember not to say anything really vile and disgusting, such as ‘I like kids’. Fathers must always avoid being seen alone with their children too, and certainly never touch them in public… Which is ALL very ironic seeing as a great deal of child abuse of all kinds is done by women, especially mothers (and the social services are so reluctant to take babies from unfit mothers that hardly any come up for adoption these days, not until they are damaged young children).
    The Police fishing expeditions of 1970s celebrities say more about their quest for fame and glory, and about the compo-craving of supposed ‘victims’, than anything else. AND they are demanded by a manhating pc feminist lobby.

    The biggest problem in the UK is unstable fatherless families – abuse is many times more likely to happen in these single mother families contexts as well as step families where a series of mummy’s boyfriends get access to kids.
    Of course oop north, in the autonomous Islamic regions of Rotherham et al, things have gone BADLY wrong because the pc white social workers, teachers, plods etc are racist – they do not expect Asians/Muslims to behave as they would expect whites to behave so turn a blind eye. That is disgusting and I want to see hundreds of arrests for negligence there. 1400 seems about the right number. ANY teacher and social worker and plod who knew of abuse of children but did nothing should be arrested and lose their jobs too. And fined heavily.

    But really, we live in a country where the BBC and government are SO reluctant to state the stark truth when reporting this story: THE ABUSERS WERE ALL ASIAN MUSLIM P WORDS; THE CHILDREN WERE ALMOST ALL WHITE. The elephant in the room is called Mohammed…

    • Terry Field

      SO what is the solution the nation should apply????????

      • jesseventura2

        EU referendum on returning muslims to countries of origin would return a massive YES VOTE?

        • colchar

          But the EU courts would rule that it was against their human rights. Or rights to a family life. Or whatever.

  • IGiveUp

    I think, asked on a one-to-one basis, that the vast majority of people (including those in authority) know exactly how this should be dealt with and, secretly, would like to see it done. However, they are too scared to voice this opinion for fear of being labelled….discriminatory. This appalling travesty is, in no small way, as a result of this. So, where does it stop? Is it okay for children to continue to be repeatedly abused but not take the steps necessary to stop it? Are the rights of the children superseded by the rights of the abusers because of their ethnicity?
    How did it come to this?

    • Terry Field

      The fact that people are frightened to speak condemns postNEWLabour Britain as a tatty version of the Soviet Union.
      Unfree.
      Well stuff that.
      To hell with the corrupt state – PEOPLE SHOULD BE CRYSTAL CLEAR AND CONFRONT THE CORRUPT POISON KILLING BRITAIN. And that includes the putrid political class of ‘the left’ that has orchestrated this nightmare and the others we all grapple with now.

    • Bonkim

      Lame excuse.

  • Terry Field

    SO, one medium sized town in England reports AT LEAST 1600 children beaten and sexually abused.
    THere will be similar horrors of similar scale in many towns and cities across the country. This is a massive national racial/cultural crime.
    This is consistent with an ex Attorney General stating at the time of the Oxford Islamic abuse conviction – four or five people as I recall – that in excess of eighty other moslem abusers were known to the police. They have not gone before the courts – the corrupt political class (now being corrected by the excellent Theresa May at the Home Office) having systematically lied about the religious/racial./ cultural reality. His numbers, if extrapolated from Oxford and this latest horror, would indicate many tens of thousands of non-muslim victims being abused by gigantic numbers of muslims and maybe some others.
    Labour politicians who knew, councillors, compliant police-chiefs, political hangers-on in quangos and the whole putrid class of social manipulators should be prosecuted and go to gail for this utter outrage.
    AN entire generation in England has been systematically lied to about the incompatibility of Islam in an otherwise happy and highly mutually appreciative multi-cultural society.
    I would bet a lot that there are Labour ex-ministers whop knew of this and suppressed it. Start looking also at the most senior Civil Servants in the government departments dealing with internal affairs.
    The systematic abuse of HUGE number of poor children should shake our society to its foundations. We CANNOT continue as we have been conditioned to behave and ‘believe’.
    The State is corrupted for this horror to have developed over the entire period of New Labour.
    Our children are not just the ones we breed directly. They are ALL the children in our country. We ARE our brothers keeper.
    Britain should ask the serious question about the acceptability of Islam in our midst IN ANY FORM AT ALL.

    Britain has produced the most wonderful society since the end of Empire. SO many racial and cultural groups come together and live well together. This is the great success of an otherwise unsuccessful post-war England. This success makes it a beacon to the world.

    But Islamic influence is a dagger pointed to the heart of happy race and cultural relations.

    The Jewish Chronicle reports that 63% of Jews now feel unsafe in England and would go to Israel – with all its external threats – to feel safer. IN ENGLAND!
    This is utterly shaming. The cause of the problem. Home-grown Islamic hatred. And the cause of that – unavoidable reality – the Koran.
    Utterly unacceptable.

    We should consider Spain 1492.
    I suspect that will be the conversation in the next few years. It should be.
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    • jesseventura2

      No muslim grooming gangs caught in labour run areas of Wales and Scotland?

    • cliffcliff

      How do you realistically resolve this situation, How can this problem be solved before demographics make for a doomsday scenario?

      • Terry Field

        If you are from the Home Office legal department trying to trap then stuff you.
        If not, the answer is simple.
        1 The crown to proscribe the Labour Party and exclude its senior previous government members from future political participation in a new replacement social democratic party of the left to be formed after the proscription. That will form within hours of the death of the old one but with COMPLETELY NEW LEADERSHIP.
        2 Proscribe Islam in Britain, bulldoze the mosques and simply state that Islamic belief and Islamic action is incompatible with an entitlement to live in the British Isles.
        Spain 1492.
        Convert or go.
        Properly, humanely but firmly. And applicable to every citizen and subject.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      “SO, one medium sized town in England reports AT LEAST 1600 children beaten and sexually abused.” Thought it was 1,400, but let’s not quibble over details. Extrapolate and you are talking millions. Could that really be possible? How many Muslim men are there in UK between 16 and 60, because just about all of them would be up for a bit of underage white ass in the right circumstances. Face it, Islam sanctions just about any crime against kuffar.

  • Cyril Sneer

    I no longer recognise this country.

    We have muslim cultural paedo drug addicted gangs raping young white children, a heinous crime but liberal bleeding hearts and this whole sick progressive liberal ideology and open borders insanity has enabled this to happen. When a country puts the welfare of its children secondary to some sick liberal ideology then you know this country has seriously lost the plot.

    Add to that, BBC establishment and celebrity paedo rings going back decades and each successive government turning a blind eye.

    20 years of progressive liberalism has changed this country for the worse leaving an uncertain future for our children.

    • 1498

      Agree, the media have questions to answer also. They too played their part in this scandal. They remained silent.
      The media only become outraged only when suiting their own agenda. They only report, highlight or investigate what promotes their own ideology.
      Most people now see the BBC for what it is – a mouthpiece of the Liberal Left.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      So hate it and leave it. Britain’s social ills are not your responsibility, take the necessary steps to ensure they are no longer your problem. Brits, hate um or despise um, you can’t like um.
      Hey, what is this? A popularity contest?
      Jack, Japan Alps

      • Phleb

        Or they can stay in their home country and throw the interlopers out, right? Right!

    • Phleb

      I’ve been going to english speaking news sites all over the world and it seems like we’re all being played by the same piper. Everywhere you find the same desperation sounding comments on the same problem.

      Joseph Stalin said “Death solves all problems. No people, No problem”. It’s the one and only time I’ll agree with Stalin. My revision would be to say: no islam, no problem…eradicate it from your home (country) when you find it.

  • Bonkim

    “………the bias towards secrecy. Wherever children are involved, the default position on the part of public authorities seems to be that they should keep information about their failures under their institutional hats — out of concern, naturally, for the privacy of the children involved. Yes, of course, the privacy of children has to be protected. But often what is really being protected is the privacy of the social workers and other staff involved.”

    This is not just is child care and social services – but all aspects of local authority work – Local Authorities are secret societies and anyone daring to challenge their competence or methods eliminated. As long as the elected council allows resolutions and the democratic processes are seen to be functioning – the Audit Commission or the Ombudsman has no power. The same when contracts go sour and the councils end up paying out millions for their ineptitude. Corrupt practices go unchecked with staff shuffled around. The whole system is rotten to the core.

  • ayrshireman

    the Asian perpetrators are the most racist aspect of this whole thing, it sickens me that my country has come to this, this scum need to go back to where they came from, they gained their independence from Britain in 1947 because they didn’t want to live under british rule and what do they do? do they develop their own country? No, they move here to live under british rule again because here all the hard work has already been done for them and they can enjoy health care and dole money. None of these people could run their own country as they can never see past their own personal gain, so it has to be asked, what are they contributing to Britain?

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      For Asian, read male Muslim Pakistanis.

  • NJH

    I should like to know how many members of these “mainly Asian gangs” were Christian, Sikh, Hindu or Buddhist.

  • nhumphrey1969

    If he won’t resign, we need to look at whether his home can be picketed, so he does.

    • c777

      Bricked.

  • thomasaikenhead

    “Who will be held to account for the horror in Rotherham?”

    Perhaps the wrong question because Rotherham should not be considered in isolation, such events have been taking place in many other cities and towns in the UK.

    Just look at the location of the trials over the last few years where gangs of men of Pakistani origin have indulged in such conduct.

    Multiply the 1400 victims in Rotherham accordingly and the true scale of the horror will emerge.

  • Blindsideflanker

    Well it won’t be the cultural Marxists , who are the real reason, with their politics of fear, why this abuse became so wide spread, for all the Westminster Parties are fully paid up members to the cause.

  • anyfool

    It was a moment to savour in the Labour Parties exercise to deflect peoples attention from their core vote, Jack Dromey on Newsnight blamed white men for the majority of abuse.
    This from a man who in conjunction with his wife Harperson have for forty years, it could be said, to have helped or associated with active paedophiles in their pursuit of changing the law, to make what these savages are now practicing on children legal.

    • Blindsideflanker

      Indeed, the left are doing a blinder at avoiding scrutiny of their role in this scandal. The only time when the spot light was shone on them was by a couple of callers into yesterday’s 5 Live call in, and then the BBC sought to blunt any attack the callers were making.

      For all the professional opinion formers in the Westminster bubble, the accountability is being done by the public, the professional political classes are nothing short of useless.

    • Terry Field

      They should be deeply investigated by a rigorous, INDEPENDENT – investigative authority – NOT THE POLICE.
      The police can in no way be trusted.
      A new investigative agency should be created for the purpose.
      All their colleagues should also be deeply investigated. Prosecuted where the evidence is patent. If convicted then they should be imprisoned.

      • Pootles

        The police hierarchy is sold to dreams od advancement and their pensions. We need some other group to defend us.

  • excel

    Public sector pensions – they are the reason why the councils, police et al didn’t want to pursue this matter. None of them, not one, wanted to jeopardise their pension. The only solution is to close these over-generous schemes and put all public sector workers onto standard personal pensions. Long overdue.

    • c777

      Take their pensions away I’m sick fed up of paying for the parasites.

  • AlecM

    Cultural Marxism has succeeded in its aim; to destroy Western working class family cohesion and patriotism. Multiculturism involving the creation of a new overclass of islamic mysoginistic paedophiles fits in very well with the behaviour of the public school educated white UK elite.

    Remember; the aim is to exchange decent Christian values with institutionalised depravity in all classes, not just the elite. This is because people who are compromised can be controlled.

  • Stafford_Lou

    We must never lose sight on what this is really all about. It is about votes and highly paid public positions. Surely we have learned over a considerable number of years that these factors trump all others. In civic offices all over Britain are thick pile carpets usually suitable enough to sweep almost anything under them.

    • Ahobz

      I thought that at first but the published demographics show the Pakistan population of Rotherham to be about 3%. Not big enough to make a difference in what appears to be a solidly Liebore town.

      • Stafford_Lou

        Ah yes; but it is 6% Muslim in Sheffield next door and that was LibDem as recently as 2010. These days a borough can be solidly ‘Liebore’ one year and something else the next. Parties are now competing with each other to be the most diversity friendly.

        • Terry Field

          If the Lib-dems are as culpable as Labour, they too should be proscribed and their current leadership excluded from political life in the future.

        • Pootles

          Yes, and one of the things about the Pakistani & Bangla votes is that ‘community leaders’ can deliver them en bloc – especially following the introduction of easier postal voting.

  • c777

    “Rape in Pakistan came to international attention after the politically sanctioned rape of Mukhtaran Bibi.The group War Against Rape (WAR) has documented the severity of rape in Pakistan, and the police indifference to it.According to Women’s Studies professor Shahla Haeri, rape in Pakistan is “often institutionalized and has the tacit and at times the explicit approval of the state” According to a study carried out by Human Rights Watch there is a rape once every two hour and a gang rape every eight.According to lawyer Asma Jahangir, who is a co-founder of the women’s rights group Women’s Action Forum, up to seventy-two percent of women in custody in Pakistan are physically or sexually abused.”

    Its a cultural problem LibLabCon, er, imported………
    Celebrate the diversity !

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Pakistan

  • Terry Field

    The Labour Party should be abolished. Its top people prosecuted, and where found guilty, imprisoned.

  • Atticus

    With the scale of abuse my anger has been edged by fear for my children. I cannot honestly say that the UK is a safe place for a child anymore, even when concerned fathers (some who organised themselves to protect their children, such as the Sikhs did), fail in their battle against the Pakistani rapists due to the British authorities demanding ‘social cohesion’.

    • Terry Field

      Yes. We are ALL threatened by the Labour-induced super-criminality.
      We risk our own children, and for the others
      WE ARE OUR BROTHER”S KEEPER.

      This is not just ‘politics’ now.

      Labour / NewLabour should be abolished.
      There is enough here for the monarch to act. It should be done today.

      All its structure should be looked into in the most profound way in respect of this massive and developing horror.

      Where guilty, very long imprisonment should follow.

      And Islam has NO PLACE in british life.

      None at all.

      They were not asians.
      They were not British.

      They were and still are Pakistani fifth column Islamists – and they are ALL Islamists.

    • Lydia Robinson

      Yes, this has been excluded from the narrative of Al-Beebaceera, the Gruniad et al. That another religion was deliberately targeted for grooming.

  • anyfool

    A dozen Labour Pakistani towns or areas minimum 1400 child rape cases each, Cliff Richards maybe 1 case 40 years ago.
    The police pick single white man to launch publicity seeking investigation with massive resources used.
    This is also a cancer in English society.

    • Blindsideflanker

      The cancer is the left’s state sanctioned multiculturalism, which is the agenda of the Cultural Marxists , which the all the Westminster political parties have signed up to.

      Its was the fear of identifying anything wrong with an ethnic minority section of society, which left the police and authorities paralysed in inaction.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Find an ageing, has-been celebrity, and pin some decades-old child abuse crime on him, on the unsupported word of a hot-to-trot 15-year-old groupie that senses a payout. Forensic or physical evidence? Gimme a break.
      This is against the backdrop of ongoing massive child sexual abuse resulting in serious permanent physical and psychological harm. No one has mentioned pregnancy yet. Priorities out of whack or what?

      • Lola Mac

        So the girls are either “15yo hot to trot groupies” or victims of child sexual abuse depending on the colour of the penis involved?

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          Violence, the threat of violence and gang rape are the areas you need to focus on.

  • alabenn

    Labour the Party of Paedophiles and Perverts should be it new name, it certainly is not the Party of the People as it sometimes claims, unless of course you happen to be a Muslim man with predilections for very young girls

    • Terry Field

      The crown shoupld now proscribe the Labour Party and disbar its ex-cabinet members from political participation in future.

    • Lydia Robinson

      Let us not forget they are also the Party of War Criminals and most of our current problems with Islamists stem from their illegal wars. How anyone can contemplate voting for this bunch of shysters is beyond me.

      • red2black

        The vote to go to war in Iraq:
        Labour 244 out of 413 MPs (59%)
        Conservative 139 out of 166 MPs (83.7%)

  • lailahaillallah

    The answer to the question: “no one”. It will be just another of those “system failures” that we keep hearing about, until the next one comes along. When the same thing will happen.

  • Mike

    Unless private actions can be taken out and be successful against individuals, no one will be responsible and the tax payers will cough up compensation once more.

    The UK has this litigation culture where all manner of individuals who commit criminal acts, didn’t provide duty of care or were criminally negligent, escape personal accountability when their organisation is found wanting and shoulders the blame.

    The police escaped culpability at Hillsborough despite ‘fixing’ the evidence and changing statements, bankers even have a get out of jail card for fraud or rate rigging and the low lifes involved at Rotherham (Not the abusers I should add), will also escape accountability.

    Only when someone is held personally responsible will this PC fascist culture be expunged from the country as right now, the left have cleverly arranged it that no one is held accountable.

  • Aline Dobbie

    Please change word Asian to Pakistani origin or whatever else….but my Hindu Indian friends are so fed up with being tarred with same brush under umbrella word ‘Asian’. The Indian Hindus have not indulged in this awful depravity….be strong and use correct terminology as otherwise you too are pandering to the problem. Comment below speaks truly about Pakistani Muslims….and their disrespect for females. UK must wake up to this horror in wherever there are these ghettoized communities who don’t respect learning, aspiration, female advancement etc. We in United Kingdom disgusted by these perpetrators….

    • RavenRandom

      Agreed the problem is cultural, relating to Pakistani origin Muslims, not Hindus or Buddhists. The appellation “Asian” is misleading and pejorative. We know who did it so let’s be specific and avoid tarring peaceful, hardworking, contributing Britons of other ethnic origin.

    • Terry Field

      Yes
      It is Islam
      It is the Pakistani interlopers.

      • David John

        No Chinese? No Japanese? I thought they where “Asian” too?

        • Terry Field

          Thank you for pointing out the poisonous lie put about by the perpetrator protectors that it is ‘Asians’. No it is Pakistanis and it is ISLAM and Islamic beliefs that legitimise it all.

  • MangoBCoconut

    Let’s not excuse or forget the cowardice of the press, either. Rotherham is just the tip of the iceberg. What we’ve seen there is going on not just across Britain, but across Europe.

    Why has the press not reported on any of it? Why is the press lying about this being a “race” issue? Why was C4’s Jon “Nowt to do with Islam” Snow dispatched to Rotherham to interview some Muslims claiming it was “nowt to do with Islam”?

    The truth has to come out sooner or later.

    • Lydia Robinson

      Because Jon Snow is a Hamas shill. You’ll only get lies from him. I don’t watch that news channel at all. Waste of time.

  • RavenRandom

    Fear and silence allowed this to happen. No more. The law must be blind to colour and religion.
    And can we please stop importing problems.

    • Terry Field

      No
      Political intention from the ruling elite that then bred acquiescence by the paid enforces, and subsequent fear by the cowed population allowed this to happen – AND IT CONTINUES TODAY ACROSS THE ISLAMIC POST-INDUSTRIAL URBAN LANSCAPE- right across Britain

  • Christian

    I seem to remember a certain Nicholas Griffin raising this years ago and him being dismissed as a liar.

    None of the media, including the Speccy would do take any of the measure required to stop this as they all believe in the ideology of mass immigration and multiculturalism. Crocodile tears, cry me a river…….

    • Terry Field

      This is nothing to do with Griffin.
      This is about the potentially institutionally criminal New Labour Party, that needs to be throughly investigated – by a new created-for-the-purpose body.
      It is potential political criminality on a massive scale.
      A gigantic task, over this developing horror. In the meantime, the Crown should disband the party, and a new party can then be formed, where no members of the then cabinet can be a member or take any part whatsoever.
      This is not politics any more. This is potentially political super-criminality.
      The nation-wide scale of the disaster is breathtaking. It rocks the state to its very foundations.
      And to hell with the gutless teenage scribblers who are frightened of saying this.
      The obsession with Savile, poor Cliff Richard and the unfortunate others is a massive smokescreen -PUT UP BY THE SAME POLICE FORCE.
      Join up the dots.
      The picture is a nightmare.

      • Lydia Robinson

        The one thing I am enjoying is the mass panic by Labour to cover their tracks and trying to impale the head of Shaun Wright as a scapegoat.

        • GraveDave

          All we can hope is that the media brings all those responsible down by constant naming and shaming and calling for their heads in turn.Other than that you can always get up a Facebook page.

  • MikeF

    There is no such thing as ‘moral panic’ and the use of the term in an otherwise well-argued article in The Spectator is a fatuous lapse into the jargon-filled conformist mindset that is supposedly being held up for critical analysis here. The term is an example of specious pseudo-sociological left-wing vocabulary that seeks to ridicule questioning of and opposition to left-wing orthodoxy by portraying it as a reflexive and unthinking expression of received values as opposed to what the left regard as their supposedly analytical thought processes. It is, frankly, part of a lexicon contrived by the left to disguise what is in reality complacency and self-estimation as objectivity and altruism – an attitude that, as we can now see, played a crucial role in what happened in Rotherham. The term should be eradicated from the English language. As for delving back into allegations of abuse that are 50 years old some of that very likely is genuine, some of it rather more pertinently is an attempt to to deflect attention from systemic failures that are occurring right now.

  • http://www.biologymad.com/ HD2

    The prosecution – with the full rigour of the law – of every single person who knew of, or had the ability to have knowledge of, these events AND who did nothing.
    That means
    The entire Soc Sec dept
    The entire LEA
    The entire staff of every school
    The entire Council
    Every member of South Yorks Police force.

    And that means from the CEO/Mayor/Chief Constable (& PCC), right down to the lowliest typist.

    Dismiss the lot (no pension rights), once any ‘failure to act’ has been established: not only ‘pour encouragez les autres’ in similar positions in every other area of the Uk, but also to show these children that substantiated claims of paedophile rape will be treated seriously – and those involved prosecuted, no matter who or what they are – and, on conviction, jailed for all time.

  • Peter Stroud

    Local Government officials ignore abused children’s cries for help, yet remove children from foster care, because of the politics of the foster parents! Almost unbelievable. What is even more unbelievable is that the official in question was not sacked. Police arresting raped, under age girls for prostitution, when taking no action against the Pakistani rapists. Yet no one in the force (or is it called police service, these days) has been disciplined. It really is time that changes are made in the entire culture of public sector employment. There have been far too many scandals, involving our local government servants.

  • elaineland

    Who will be held to account for the horror in Rotherham?No-one

    They rape our children
    They behead our soldiers in the streets

    They infiltrate the education system
    They commit treason by flying to Syria and murder an allied prisoner

    And we do absolutely nothing due to the fear of being branded a racist or ignorant? This country has surpassed pathetic. I used to think there would be a breaking point, where the people would finally have enough of this medieval muslim nonsense and the malady that has spread across this country would be sorted out. But if that hasn’t happened after all of this, i can’t help but feel it will never happen.
    The UK is dying whilst everyone observes in silence.

    Oh and by the way I see Rotherham Council have today given themselves police protection. Protection 1,400 young girls did not get…

    • Joanna

      I couldn’t agree more. We need a version of Golden Dawn, or similar.

  • The_greyhound

    I’d like to make a special mention of the council’s Executive Director, Children and Young Peoples’ Services, Joyce Thacker O.B.E. While she was able to ignore – indeed cover up, what was going on here, she found time to kidnap two children from foster carers, because the carers had UKIP literature in the house. See the extensive media coverage in 2012.

    Just who are these sick, incompetent twisted nutters? Rather than employ them, society needs protecting from them.

    • Lydia Robinson

      When you read that story on the BBC website here:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20474120

      the first thing you notice is that all the BTL comments have been removed by the Al-Beebaceera moderation team.

  • Pat Conway

    And what about the actual perpetrators? Have any of them been identified and charged?

    • Bill Thomas

      Of course not; they were not pop singers or TV stars.

    • FORMER RSW DJ

      the council, police force and the towns senior social services for safeguarding and CP indeed were aware of this ongoing and long running scale of abuse and rape and gang rape rings in towns and cities out of rotherham, and were ignored, or not recognised or acknowledged and simply turn a blind eye to, … i see this corrupt multi authority are the abusing perpetrators who condone and allow the children to be the use for mass paedophelia abuse, and that is a part of the ring of abusers who do not protect or stop this harm being inflicted, that is organised paedophilia corporate level, and that has to be the same as exploitation and rape organisationst between all 3 authorities being perpetrators of the children the serve to the criminal rings, and pretend it isn’t happening in case these gangs pull the race card on them, they couldn’t bare that erupting in a scandal…………. sack the whole staff numbers who were apart or where in the know , who allowed this by knowing and not acting…….. a corporate scale of child abusers, thats a ride to the prisons along with the ones who raped them……….. what else could it be? growing out of control………. don’t surprise me I’ve seen what evil people they can be by experience, and it is not as it seems, that is fact not fiction thats the way these animals operate…….

  • gerronwithit

    There are and were no Social Services or proper administration in Rotherham. All that there was was a cabal of Labour Socialists feasting on public money while paying lip service to their notional jobs. The vile Wright and Thacker should already be on the streets without a penny in their pockets and looking at criminal charges. There are many, many more who should now be hounded out of the system.

    As for the Pakistani perverts…..

  • arteus1946

    Does anyone think that there will ever come the day when there will be no more “lessons to be learnt” and no more denials of responsibility or scapegoats, to placate the public?
    This is not a problem unique to Rotherham -it is rife throughout the Uk. There seems a reluctance to put the blame where it lies -at the door of depraved Asian men of all ages, who see white girls as fresh meat. If it happened to an Asian girl all hell would be let loose and she would probably suffer an “honour killing” 1400 kids over appox.16 years -it happened mostly on New Labours watch, Yvette Cooper, so don’t blame this Govt. alone, for this scandal.
    5 men jailed -and I use the term men loosely- when many more were involved and have escaped justice (Does such a thing exist in UK today?).
    A Royal Commission Investigation is the least that should be carried out -all involved in these henious acts MUST be prosecuted -and the police MUST do their duty if they wish to be still considered fit for purpose.
    NOTHING ELSE WILL SUFFICE.

  • Tomolika

    The Pakistani’s are getting annoyed by pointing the finger at them. The funny thing is, Pakistanis like raping. During the Pakistani and Bangladesh Liberation war in 1971, Pakistani Army raped many women and girls and got them pregnant. Looks like it’s in their blood.

    • Terry Field

      The Pakistanis should leave Britain. I hope they are angry,extremely unsure and expect to leave soon if their behaviour and belief-set continues unchanged..
      Their behaviour is monstrous. Their ‘culture’ is putrid.
      This horror spreads across the whole nation and involves VAST numbers of them and vast numbers of REAL British victims
      Utterly monstrous, and their political protector party is corrupt – it protects them from justice to buy their votes.
      How much more hellish can a corrupt political dispensation be in Britain??????
      It puts Warsi’s comments about ‘government policies should be adjusted to get the immigrant group (i.e. Muslim) votes in full technicolor perspective.

  • 1498

    The figures are mind boggling. 1400 victims in one town alone. If this represents the figures for one town, one can only wonder what the national figures must be.
    The Labour/Liberal ideology of political correctness, multiculturalism and diversity began in the 1970’s. This political agenda took control of the media, journalism and of course the ‘old reliable’ the BBC.
    We have seen the results. This ideology has turned Britain into a cultural & social wasteland.
    British society is fragmenting. The bond that holds together our communities and families has crumbled. It is a time for much soul searching & reflection as to how things went so badly wrong for this country.

  • Steed

    Why on earth do we still allow immigration from Pakistan and Bangladesh? When they come to the UK (excepting Somalis) they are far more likely to be unemployed than any other immigrants or the indigenous population, earn less than anyone else, their children perform more poorly than any others, they bring across awful cultural traits such as misogyny, homophobia, a disdain for anyone who isn’t a Muslim, they live together in ghettos (of all immigrants Pakistani & Bangladeshi’s are the most concentrated), refuse to integrate for the most part, have levels of racism that outstrip the indigenous community, they are by and large responsible for most of the Islamic terrorism that comes to our shores and it would appear that they have a tendency to rape little white girls.

    You can’t say ANY of the above about Indians, who share the same ethnicity (I should know, I’m married to one). Why don’t we simply stop all immigration from Pakistan & Bangladesh and just let in more Indians? Would that be racist or logical?

  • mohdanga

    No mention in this entire article of the words ‘Muslim’ or ‘Islam’, just the stock ‘Asian’ euphemism to protect, ahem, a certain ‘community’. Were these criminals Chinese, Japanese and Singaporeans ??
    Seems the editorialists at the Spectator have taken a page from the leftwing MSM when it comes to protecting this cherished ‘community’.

  • MikeF

    Here is the sort of thing that does get you sacked:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/11061181/Council-worker-sacked-after-graphic-novel-deemed-too-raunchy.html
    Write a book for adults and you are out, collude in the rape of children and…

  • Eldridge Davis

    Are we surprised that it is Pakistani (Muslim) men that are the perpetrators behind this? All across Europe this happens. As matter of fact, Sweden leads Europe in the percentage of rapes per capita in Europe. Take a wild guess who the people are raping white Swedish women…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#mediaviewer/File:Rape_rate_per_100,000_-_country_comparison_-_United_Nations_2012.png

    Europe is quickly turning into a third world sh*hole…

    • GraveDave

      They’re not Pakistanis though -are they? Probably North Africans.

      • Eldridge Davis

        Doesn’t matter where they are from. North Africa, the Horn of Africa, or South Asia. Their all MUSLIMS. That is the issue. What type of Muslims does not matter (whether North African Muslims, Middle Eastern Muslims, Turkish Muslims, South Asian Muslims, etc).

        • GraveDave

          It will matter when they start calling you a Pakiphobe.

          • Eldridge Davis

            They can call me whatever they want. Hell, I’m already called an Islamaphobe. But based off of this evidence wouldn’t you be? If a bunch of green man came down to earth and started murdering and raping people indiscriminately because they could and they knew they could get away with it wouldn’t you be a bit prejudiced against them and show both animosity and hatred (and even fear) towards them? Then why is it when Muslims gang rape white women, blow themselves and others up, go off to join their jihadist brothers, and say how much they hate the West they can’t be criticized, ridiculed, or contested without fear of being labeled a racist?

          • GraveDave

            Yes, I think it’s natural to react like that.

          • Eldridge Davis

            Same here. And that’s why I do. The hell with liberals, labor, and political correctness in the name of tolerance and multiculturalism.

      • Joanna

        Still muslims….

  • Eldridge Davis

    Muslims are the problem. Anyone who thinks otherwise can go to hell. Stats and evidence don’t lie no matter how much labor and the damn liberals try to sugarcoat it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#mediaviewer/File:Rape_rate_per_100,000_-_country_comparison_-_United_Nations_2012.png

    • GraveDave

      Paedophilia itself is a share crime by all races and cultures. But rape, and in particular gang rape, has escalated out of all proportion in European countries since mass immigration from the third world

      It’s got to be said.

      • Eldridge Davis

        I agree. And Sweden, Belgium, Norway, Finland, and New Zealand have large numbers of rapes. Now these rapes (including gang rapes) didn’t occur in such volume before mass immigration. Doesn’t take much to put two and two together to figure out why. But if you say this you clearly are a racist! Liberal political correctness at its finest. Now of course if it was black or Muslim women getting gang raped by white man it would be all over the news and in the papers.

        • GraveDave

          A certain right wing paper recently pointed out the escalation of rapes in Britain, followed of course by all the usual politically correct choice of pictures. That is, in this case of story, none to reflect the diverse society we live in today.

          • Eldridge Davis

            I heard about that. You see, it doesn’t fit the multicultural narrative to be critical of it and ridicule it. A Swedish politician rightfully blamed the large number of rapes on Muslims in Sweden and guess what happened to him? He was fined for hate speech against Islam. Free speech no longer exists in Europe or anywhere in the West for that matter. Here is the article. The West is dead my friend. I’m actually thinking of leaving the UK and expatriating to a developed Asian country. The Asians don’t play the political correct bullsh*t. Recently they banned Muslim prayers in public places, the growing of beards on Muslim men, and limited the number of mosques built. They also closely monitor them. And they can care less what the world thinks of them. Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Taiwan are all like that I hear. Could be a good place to expatriate to when Europe becomes the New Middle East.

            http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/05/11/swedish-politician-fined-hate-speech-islam/

          • Lydia Robinson

            It’s well known that black rappers and gang members on our London estates hand around girls to be abused and raped. But that is the unmentionable too. Undoubtedly, those girls get the same treatment from the police and social services that the Rotherham girls got.

  • Bill Thomas

    Funny that you don’t get a BBC helicopter hovering over Rotherham Town Hall……….

  • Barzini

    The people who should be held account are those behind the changing of the immigration laws in all white countries – they sure as hell weren’t Anglo-Saxons

    I’d pay good money to read an investigation into that one, but I won’t hold my breath waiting to see such an article in the Spectator…..

    • GraveDave

      They’ll all be dead by now anyway.

      • Barzini

        The new laws continue to be held in place and enforced by he same power that wants to see all white countries divided and conquered…..

        Any party that looked to reverse these laws would be hugely hugely popular, not just in the UK but in all other white countries, It’s only via the continued use of force, corruption and propaganda (media control) by this same power that we are where we are today….

        • GraveDave

          The mechanism is in place too. That means unless someone elects an outright fascist, it can never be challenged or allowed a public platform. However…..

  • Cincinnatus

    Who will be held to account for the horror in Rotherham?

    We all know the answer: no one.

  • Andy Capp

    So, Nick Griffin was right all along

    • Steed

      No. Nick Griffin is a fascist, and fascism is not logical, moral or right.

      • Andy Capp

        So are the events in Rotherham not connected to the “multicultural hell-hole” which Griffin complained about – for for which he was prosecuted by the authorities for simply stating an opinion?

        • Steed

          His words mean far more than just calling up multiculturalism for what it is, and he wasn’t just prosecuted for using the words “multicultural hell-hole”

      • GraveDave

        Yes, yes -but was he right or not?

      • colchar

        He is clearly an idiot but even a broken clock is correct twice per day. Stop attacking the messenger and respond to his comments.

      • Joanna

        Nick Griffin hasn’t abused 1400 kids though.

  • The_greyhound

    How many were actually held to account for the stinking abattoir that was Stafford Hospital?

  • voiceforlogic

    There is one thing for certain and that is racism is alive and kicking going by these comments.

    • GraveDave

      Even if is seems that way right now, is that more important than what was allowed to happen to the 1400 white children in Rotherham over a seventeen year period?

      Well I guess to some it must be.

      Thsi country is sick.

      • voiceforlogic

        As you will see by my comments I do not support or condone any of these related actions.

        I think you will find most countries have the same problems be they carried out by their own country folk or indeed their own families or by immigrants.

        Big numbers and “immigrants” catch the media eye, but there are far more single perpetrators and victims than those. And it is nothing new.

        • daner

          That is some fine moral relativism and apologia for the Pakistani gangs who perpetrated this awful crime. All in the name of “anti-racism.”

          No doubt you go around patting yourself on the back for your “tolerance.” Multiculturalism and tolerance have become fetishized to the point of simply being a status symbol.

          We’re affected by it in America as well, though not as bad as your lot in the UK (yet).

          • voiceforlogic

            I trust your second para’ refers to the people now under investigation for not taking action in the past.

            Your last para’ may be due to one of two points – one the Derringer in their handbags and two the can of worms has yet to be opened as I doubt if anyone is looking just as was the case here – if you do not look you do not find so there is nothing to get up tight about. Start looking at the catholic church.

          • Phleb

            I think his second paragraph is pointing to your arrogance. You come across as someone who eats their own excrement and calls it sirloin.

        • GraveDave

          Fair enough.But no anti racism lessons right now.
          Not a good time.

          • voiceforlogic

            It is always the right time to have a complete debate to clear up these types of cases be they immigrant based or the catholic church base or internet groups – they are all the same.

            We want all the corners of all these people cleaned out not just one selected sector.

            Collectively the catholic church is and has been for ever and a day just as bad if not worse than these gangs

          • Phleb

            I have a question for you…are you an atheist? If so, why is it you ‘scream’ so loud when it comes to Christianity but deflect in every way when it’s about islam?
            No one here absolves anyone that commits crimes on children…but you keep changing the subject from THIS case to the catholic church.

            Why is it the atheist wants to get rid of christians but when muslims behead, torture, mutilate, subjugate, stone women to death etc… the atheists response is ‘get rid of all religions’?
            If you’re not an atheist, that’s how you come across with your PC doublespeak.

          • voiceforlogic

            I am not changing the subject – as you would see if you read my comment.

            I am saying that this is the time to include ALL known sections of society which includes the catholic movement. They have been known to have abused untold numbers yet they have never been held to account nor have they been closed down, which is what would have hapend to any other such organisation.

          • Phleb

            I’ve read you’re comments and found you offensive. Again, who are you to tell someone they can’t express their thoughts on the subject matter of this article?
            Where I come from that’s called trolling.

          • voiceforlogic

            Read your own comment quote ” … who are you to tell someone ”

            That is exactly what you are guilty of.

          • Phleb

            There is one thing for certain and that is racism is alive and kicking going by these comments

            Your words…not mine.

          • Phleb

            ***I think you will find most countries have the same problems be they carried out by their own country folk or indeed their own families or by immigrants.***

            Here’s another example of deflection…. “oh yes this is bad but blah blah blah
            Again…your words not mine.

          • voiceforlogic

            blah, blah

          • voiceforlogic

            I think it is you who is trying hard to ignore my fist paragraph. If you stop being defensive you will see I include ALL.

            In no way can it be claimed I have tried to change the subject, but I do not see why you should try to exclude the biggest group of known offenders – the catholic church.

          • Phleb

            What’s the title of this article? It’s not the Catholic church. It’s not child sexual abuse.

            The first comment I’ve read of yours was your attack on people calling them racists.
            I kept reading and found you deflecting again and again from what THIS topic is about. I and I’m sure I’m not the only one here that has railed on the Catholics, but what you’re doing here is wrong. People are entitled to express their opinions on “this group of monsters” as well. Stop telling people what they are allowed to think!

          • voiceforlogic

            You like me and everyone is fortunately free to express their views.

            I suspect you are associated with the catholic movement and trying very hard to defect discussion in the round.

            You seem totally obsessed with keeping the inquiry limited to the 1,400 and excluding the catholic movement.

            Whereas I am more interested in using this very public inquiry to address the subject in the round.

            Not forgetting the catholic movement are known to have abused a far greater number of children and have avoided any investigation – treated as untouchables. But the law applies to everyone without favour. But the catholic church has been permitted to operate outside the law – why ?

          • Phleb

            Lmao how many times can you mention ‘catholic’ in a couple of paragraphs. Oh but nooo you don’t have a clue. I am so far from being affiliated with the Catholic church, you could almost pin a star of david on my chest.

            Keep typing you’re making my point over and over. You’re a troll.

          • voiceforlogic

            when did they let you out ?

            Go away

          • Phleb

            Im the “voiceofreason” Sounds like no one’s ever called you on your hypocrisy.

          • Phleb

            And BTW try rereading your reply. BOTH paragraphs illustrate my point to a tee.

          • voiceforlogic

            I think you should go to church and say a few hail Mary’s

            Now go away.

          • Phleb

            Again…you’re bringing up those Catholics!!!

        • Lydia Robinson

          “Big numbers and “immigrants” catch the media eye”

          Well, no. A well known journalist Julie Bindel tried to get her friends in the Guardian to publish her article about this back in 2005 and she was sidelined. Other people tried to draw it to the attention of the media over a 14 year period and were also silenced. A poster on “Have Your Say” on the BBC website posted information about what was happening in Rotherham and the comments were all deleted or censored. The MSM simply was not interested. They have only sat up now to take notice because of the damning report that they’ve been forced to publish. HTH.

          • voiceforlogic

            I trust all the facts that you have are passed on to the enquiry.

        • carpetburn

          The white paedophiles that are caught being nonces are usually loners, social outcasts and look the part of the nonce. And when they are organised into groups it’s a big
          collection of these socially outcast nonces. They are the outliers rather than the mainstream of the english community.

          This is in stark comparison to these pakistani nonces. They are dressed in fashionable inner city hip hop sports attire and are in every way the mainstream of their societies rather than outliers and are the drug dealing gangster counterparts of their white and black contemporaries in the inner cities. So to an extent this behaviour appears to have been normalised rather than marginalised in this community.

          • Joanna

            Well put.

        • carpetburn

          The white paedophiles that are caught being nonces are usually loners, social outcasts and look the part of the nonce. And when they are organised into groups it’s a big
          collection of these socially outcast nonces. They are the outliers rather than the mainstream of the english community.

          This is in stark comparison to these pakistani nonces. They are dressed in fashionable inner city hip hop sports attire and are in every way the mainstream of their societies rather than outliers and are the drug dealing gangster counterparts of their white and black contemporaries in the inner cities. So to an extent this behaviour appears to have been normalised rather than marginalised in this community.

        • Phleb

          Yes, yes. But this article is on the 1,400 children in Rotherham. It’s not on child abuse as a whole.

          • voiceforlogic

            But it will fail if it does not address the problem in total not just one isolated section..

    • Joanna

      It’s most certainly alive and kicking in the pakistani communities in the uk, has been since the 70s.

    • Phleb

      Are you one of those 1,400 children who was raped and worse? Then, shut up with the rhetoric. We are fed up with the PC police.

      • voiceforlogic

        so you are only concerned with these 1,400 children – yes ?

        What about all the others that have been ignored ?

        Ther are untold numbers throughout the country and untold numbers abused by the catholic church who the authorities have turned their back on for countless number of years – why ?

        You clearly want to limit justice for the 1,400. Whereas I want justice for ALL such cases. That is the difference between us – and no I will not give way to your microscopic mind set.

  • GraveDave

    has been reported that no one in the council felt strong enough to challenge the mainly Asian gangs that perpetrated the abuse for fear of accusations of racism. It’s true that racism, even of the inadvertent kind, has — along with sexism and homophobia — been turned into such a heinous crime in the eyes of public-sector functionaries that many would rather turn a blind eye to child rape than risk such accusations.

    Just as happened in Islington under Margaret Hodge, after her gay fostering project supposedly got infiltrated by a paedophile gang. Again it was the system. Or , in some cases. the children’s fault for being ‘unstable’ or having mental health issues. She’s still out there though and no doubt on some public payroll or other.

    • colchar

      I wonder how many Pakistani Muslims work for the local council?

  • voiceforlogic

    There is all this media coverage and out cries about immigrant gangs etc.

    Don’t get me wrong,but theses are small number put against the catholic church victims.

    If it had been any other religious movement it would be called a cult and there would be an outcry for its disbandment and the police would have moved in en-mass.

    Why do we not call for the catholic church to be shut down ? They have a history of gross misconduct and transferring innocent children to Australia to be enslaved and abused.

    If we are going to clean up these sort of offences we have to include all offenders and seek justice for all. They talk about turning a blind eye as they could be called racist – so what are they called when turning a blind eye on the actions of the catholic church ?.

    Not forgetting files gone missing in relation to West Minster !

    • GraveDave

      Good points.

  • Solage 1386

    If this had happened in the 50’s or 60’s or even the early 70’s there would have been riots. The white working-class, a huge swathe of which has degenerated into an “underclass”, has been neutered, and left to rot in council estates which can almost be likened to “reservations”. Their situation will continue to deteriorate as they become a more and more neglected minority in their own country, their culture destroyed.

    • Giles Humphry

      Er, there were riots. It’s just we weren’t allowed to know that this was the cause. But if it had

      • Giles Humphry

        Oops, meant to say if it had happened in the 50s Labour would have been fighting it. They were still a working class party then.

        • red2black

          So what caused Labour to be taken over by the middle and upper classes, culminating in ‘New’ Labour being regarded by Mrs Thatcher as her greatest achievement? Perhaps they realised that the majority of working class women were voting Conservative and that they couldn’t rely on their own class alone to be able to get into power?

          • Giles Humphry

            I don’t know but the breaking of the trade unions was huge. For all the unions’ faults who couldn’t admire the striking miner returning to work, heads held high and brass bands playing. They were a vital bond in working class communities. Or perhaps the middle classes just drove the workers out by screaming racist if they suggested not every one has been a winner from immigration.That’s what happened to me, though I’m not really working class.

          • red2black

            Thanks for replying. Labour bear no resemblance to the party of the 1960s when I was young. It seems to suit the present social and economic system for the less well off and poor to be in disarray.

  • Suzy61

    Top story at the Independent? A drought in California.

  • Liberty

    The council, police and social services were effectively colluding in the abuse of these children as surely as if they were letting out rooms for the perpetration. And the only explanation is that they did not want to offend Muslims? For that level of dereliction of duty the leader of the council just resigns with full pension, etc.and no doubt will get a cushy job somewhere else, and the police chief just resigning from the Labour party? It is unbelievable. Is there no legal redress the victims can have?A class action of some sort? Maybe some rich guy will back them in it. I would if I could.

    • kefp

      As would I. Perhaps some rich lawyer could do it.

  • Liberty

    Just imagine what could have been achieved for these children if the police had devoted just a fraction of the time and money they put into covering their own back over the Plebgate affair.

  • kefp

    I find it astonishing that no-one has made the link between the way the girls in Rotherham were treated and what was said to have been taught about white women in Birmingham in the Trojan Horse report. Clearly one is not the direct cause of the other, but surely when children are taught that white women are prostitutes and have no morals, which didn’t come out of nowhere, that’s how they end up treating them. We learned a little of the message in Birmingham, we see its result in Rotherham.

  • https://belasariust.wordpress.com/ solly gratia

    Is that really an appropriate picture to put at the top and on the front page?

    • Phleb

      Umm, I see a child who seems to be in distress. What do you see?

  • Lydia Robinson

    I’d like to ask why there is so much interest now from the Spectator and the MSM generally, when they knew about this story for years and refused to report it. In fact, a poster on the Al-Beebaceera heavily censored website “Have Your Say” reported what was going on in Rotherham and had all his posts removed. In other words, the Al-Beebaceera had a potential huge story but refused to investigate it. I will keep repeating this and hopefully, a real investigative journalist will look into why all journalists kept a lid on this, like their chums in Rotherham council.

    • red2black

      It seems that anyone who attempts to investigate things like Rotherham, PIE, the clergy, ‘celebrities’ etc., will be obstructed. What sort of society is it that creates young people who think all they are worth is their being abused?

      • Lydia Robinson

        Let us look at what happened in Ireland with the industrial scale of abuse by the Catholic church. There was no racial context so the press felt free even to go after priests and nuns who turned out to be completely innocent. That is what is so disgraceful about Rotherham – that a criminal offence should have a racial dimension which means “hands off.”

        • red2black

          I don’t think there was ‘a racial dimension’ where PIE was concerned, so why has it been virtually impossible for it to be investigated over the intervening decades? I agree with you about the ‘racial dimension’ as regards Rotherham, but that doesn’t explain many other scandals involving sex crimes against children, of which there is a very long list going back a very long time.

          • Lydia Robinson

            In the name of Political Correctness, a huge story was repressed. My point is that no such “sensitivity” was afforded to the Catholic Church in Ireland (quite rightly.) Why is such an affront against journalistic freedom afforded here?

          • red2black

            That’s the question we’re both asking. In the most recent case it can be put down to ‘political correctness’, In many other previous cases of suppression, it most definitely can not.

          • Lydia Robinson

            I agree with that and I see where you are coming from. The fact that now, with all those constraints removed, the press have chosen not to investigate this abuse makes it even more scandalous. In past times, there was a class system and status quo to defend. In present times, the status quo is misplaced liberal tolerance of certain practices brought in by people from the third world that are and should be beyond the pale.

          • Phleb

            **Brought in by the ‘turd-world’. I do not have a post grad degree. But, I’m able to recognize filthy cultures without one. I applaud everything you’ve stated.

          • Lydia Robinson

            In the name of Political Correctness, a huge story was repressed. My point is that no such “sensitivity” was afforded to the Catholic Church in Ireland (quite rightly.) Why is such an affront against journalistic freedom afforded here?

          • Lydia Robinson

            As someone with Irish heritage, I find the priestly paedophiles abhorrent. However, after decades of silence, the press goes after everyone, even those who have later been proved innocent. Why then does the press over here exculpate paedophiles who belong to a certain religion? Let’s face it, if they’d been Irish Catholics, they’d have been investigated to death and smeared all over the papers and their families trashed in the papers, innocent or guilty.

          • red2black

            I agree with you. I had to look up ‘exculpate’.

          • Lydia Robinson

            I’ve got a post grad degree. The Oirish aren’t as “tick” as they used to be made out to be!

        • red2black

          I don’t think there was ‘a racial dimension’ where PIE was concerned, so why has it been virtually impossible for it to be investigated over the intervening decades? I agree with you about the ‘racial dimension’ as regards Rotherham, but that doesn’t explain many other scandals involving sex crimes against children, of which there is a very long list going back a very long time.

    • kefp

      Along with all that was known about abuse in London children’s homes in the 80’s – also silenced. Including a visit by a senior police official to a councillor pushing investigations telling her to lay off. Just look at who the councillors were at that time … that should be a clue as to why the Harman revelations were dropped.

  • MontyKeepsASensationalCellar

    Notice the BBC are frantically trying to get people to forget about this, by promoting the goings-on in a baking programme as important news. From councils, to the media, to the police; this country is rotten to its core.

    As for the utter scum of the earth behind these crimes, i’d give them a choice between a flight home, or a bullet between the eyes. But that’s just me.

    • Dissavowed

      The BBC are just a wing of the ‘titled toffs’, the establishment, the same establishment who brought these people over in the first place, because they were a little bit cheaper labour than the indigenous population of these isles.
      The Greed of the already stinking rich.

      • red2black

        As part of preparing the ground for a fully-fledged laissez-faire, low wage, service based economy. It’s strange how high levels of immigration have served both ‘multiculturalism’ and ‘Neoliberalism’ at the same time.

    • benbecula

      Cleverly , they are leading with a whistleblower stating the council was “obsessed with targets and social workers were unable to take on extra workload”.

      So that’s it then, damn target culture, according to the BBC.

  • Lea

    The West has to go against its principles of tolerance and revoke the privileged status that Islam has as a religion. It must be declared a militant political ideology that has declared war on humanity and then banned as a subversive criminal pagan death cult. This is the way to go about it. Sharia islam is a violation of human rights and Islam is a crime against humanity. Demand that it be removed from your society.
    http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/britain-must-face-it-now-global-terror-export-hub

  • Lydia Robinson

    I hope this isn’t deleted but among the guilty who should be named here are the BBC moderators who deleted comments on their website “Have Your Say” by poster/s who lived in Rotherham and posted information about what was happening in their town. “Have Your Say” often asks for stories about local events from posters. In this case, there was a deliberate intention to censor in the most repulsive PC exercise, authentic information coming from that town.

    • Dazed & Confused

      I know a website that will listen to your claims most sympathetically…

      http://biasedbbc.org/

  • pobinr

    The police let the BBC know about an accusation against Cliff Richard from years ago so they could put up a helicopter to film his house being searched, yet they ignored the reports from young girls about abuse by Asians!
    Cliff Richards only problem is he’s white.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    UKIP must be rubbing their hands. Or rather sitting on their hands and whistling Dixie. After Labour’s massive own goal, UKIP are on track to become the opposition. And what indigenous Brit would object to the US using British bases to bomb Muslin terrorists? Libya Part II.
    Jack, Japan Alps

  • James Austin

    The British need to arm themselves like Americans. This could never happen in Alabama, because the male relatives of the abused girls would have taken care of things long before the police got involved and way before 1400 victims. Child molesters deserve to die, period. Re-arm and defend yourselves and your families. Your cops don’t care and your politicians are replacing you with 3rd world foreigners. What could you possibly have to lose?

    • Mrs Josephine Hyde-Hartley

      No thanks. I, for one, don’t want to live in a death culture. That’s where the Americans have lost the plot and the right direction,sadly, I think.

      Why should women need protecting by men, from men in this day and age?

      • James Austin

        Looks like that worked out really well for those 1400 girls. I prefer to be able to defend myself and my family. Perhaps you prefer allowing rape and enjoying your dhimmitude. To each their own.

      • Phleb

        What death culture are you alluding to? I believe James spoke of male relatives of ‘children’, not grown women.. A large population of women are experts with their weapons and don’t need men to protect them. But it sure feels like chivalry when they do. Grow up or stop whining.

    • carpetburn

      You have an increasingly criminal fragmented society where the more prosperous english working class have moved from the inner cities leaving behind a poorer marginalised and fragmented english working class unable to afford to move who watch the society around them becoming more foreign and less english every day. The balance of power shifts and the criminal element of the pakistani population take advantage in taking over the drugs trade and being able to organise across religious lines

      The people in whose communities that this has happened have been beaten
      years ago, their too weak and fragmented to fight back. The pakistanis
      actively target the daughters of the weakest families in these communities, the ones with little extended family and friends to support them rather than people with extended family networks and criminal friends. In this way they know they have the upper hand and can quickly organise people to fight and the whites have learnt this along time ago. And Paedo rape is sadly just another problem to add to the list of unemployment, little money, substance abuse etc.

      • Joanna

        Spot on.

      • Phleb

        That’s why the gun becomes the great equaliser. Fight for your right to arm yourselves.

        • carpetburn

          Its easy to get a gun over here if you want it and know where to look. What are people gonna do though? Travel to Rotherham and start shooting at the first pakistani man that they see? Granted they may get lucky given the numbers involved but still some innocents may get hurt.

          Would you travel to an asian area of a city in the US if you had read on the news that asians had been abusing white kids in that particular city and start shooting asians? I think not.

          • Phleb

            It might be easy to get a gun but it’s not ‘legal’ right?
            I understand and agree with everything you said in your post about causal effects. We’ve experienced the same here in the USA with different demographics.
            Of course I don’t promote a mob vigilante justice.
            But statistics prove that when you have an armed citizen population, you have a more gentle and polite society. I was raised in the southern states where guns are a normal part of life and have experienced more violent cities in other states where there is more gun control. It’s a different mentality.
            A criminal will choose the weakest target. That’s what happened there, you just explained it very well.

          • carpetburn

            I agree with gun ownership to an extent there can be positive as well as negative effects on a society and it seems that the media over here focuses largely on the negative effects to the detriment of the positive.

            However the methods of violence and protection in a society are relative. It wouldn’t matter if the people in these communities had guns as opposed to knives to protect themselves as the pakistani’s still have the upper hand and are in organised criminal gangs and would be more willing to use those guns.

          • Phleb

            I’m somewhat confused by this situation. Maybe you can clarify something for me. Am I understanding it correctly that these children are not in some institutional system, like an orphanage or foster care, but are victims that had homes and (a) parent(s)?

          • carpetburn

            In the Rotherham case a large portion were in care homes 1/3 I believe but around 2/3 rds were from lower class and working class families and also a smaller portion from middle class families. Its a similar proportion in other cases from around the country.

          • Phleb

            Thanks for the information and time.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    I suspect this is a “hit the fan” moment. If I were Nick I’d on every channel saying, “I told you, but you wouldn’t listen”.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    On BBC World News this morning, there’s clip of a guy in an orange Guantanamo jump suit being beheaded with this mosque in the background. Tempting target.

  • Mrs Josephine Hyde-Hartley

    “We are in the middle of an investigation into sexual exploitation of children and adults by celebrities and other public figures dating back more than 50 years.”

    – not to mention, dare I say, all the exploitation that hasn’t been deemed worthy of investigation..the stuff that might as well be common knowledge.

    ” Some of this is certainly genuine; some of it may be moral panic.”

    Exploitation is exploitation ..but unlike beauty, it is not in the eye of the beholder..unless the beholder has an unhealthy interest in exploiting people, for one reason or another. But what exactly is ” moral panic” ?

    ” The allegations of historic groping that we read about on a weekly basis are dwarfed by the kinds of scandals we have seen in Rochdale and Rotherham — scandals which, besides being of a graver nature and on a worse scale, are happening beneath our noses, in the present.”

    But groping is effectively how these kinds of criminals hide in plain sight, sometimes with and/or sometimes without a contract.

    “There will be no drawing a line under them until all those who let this happen have been held to account.”

    How and most importantly who could disentangle this mess? How could any so-called line be drawn anywhere and by whome?

    We’re in deep cultural angst i think. So deep, i think it might have to be a work in progress…That’s why there’s no point going for the knee jerk ” heads will roll” routine which clearly doesn’t work. Those criminal gropers responsible will be brought to justice somehow though..

  • Rifleman1853

    “Who will be held to account for the horror in Rotherham?”

    If Labour, the Tories, or the Lib Dems have any say in in the matter – nobody.

  • David Prentice

    The Pakistani Muslim abusers operated and are still operating under the cloak of protection provided by the BBC’s “all cultures/religions are equal” mantra. No, they bloody well aren’t equal and it’s time British people started standing up for themselves and their cultural heritage – the envy of the world, if immigration figures are anything to go by.

    • llanystumdwy

      How can these men still be walking the streets freely? Why has no one in authority announced that they will be investigated again and, if found guilty, tried for their crimes? Clearly, their ethnic origins are coming to their rescue again.

      • FORMER RSW DJ

        time to start putting all the wrongs right and taking hold of and doing the job properly and sorting the crap out and becoming bigger than the authority, unity as a public strength because the set of gimps who are pushing a reaction may just feel this pinch soon

    • llanystumdwy

      How can these men still be walking the streets freely? Why has no one in authority announced that they will be investigated again and, if found guilty, tried for their crimes? Clearly, their ethnic origins are coming to their rescue again.

  • WFB56

    “…the mainly Asian gangs…” Even after the report is released the Spectator is practicing its own form of self-censorship. Why not state what everyone now knows? With the exception of one white pervert, all the rest were Pakistani Muslims. If I were Chinese, Japanese, Thai or an Indian Hindu I would be horrified to be grouped with these people as an “Asian”.

    • Dissavowed

      Yes, and their victims? White children.
      I dont think they could have done any worse damage to their own pakistani community, if they had declared themselves members of ISIS and beheaded someone.

      • Tomolika

        They support all forms of Islamic terrorism. They were hiding Osaman Bin Laden of all people.

  • Dissavowed

    I dont want them any more. My towns covered in mosques, and has been over run. Ive lost my sense of cultural heritage, my fathers, and his fathers enjoyed.
    Saxon, Celtic, Norse.
    And now there are gangs of them raping white children?

    • Tomolika

      A lot of Pakistani’s are marrying white women. But if they do no doubt she will have to convert into his faith.

  • Ric Euteneuer

    Well, quelle surprise, a diatribe, supposedly against a particular target, but in reality, against a public authority.

    I find it galling that they criticise the fact that Stone isn’t deprived of his pension or some such other sanction, when the private sector is littered with examples where corporate failure is hidden, justified, and even rewarded.

    Of course, it repeats the old BNP mantra that abuse is mainly committed by Asians (and Asian Muslims at that) that propagate child abuse – as if no other race ever did, and as if it was somehow religiously justified in the Qu’ran.

    Stiil, from a rightwing Tory rag like the Spectator, what on earth did I expect?

    • Dissavowed

      Yes, because according to numbskulls like you, the worlds as simple as red or blue.

    • benbecula

      Rick, read this booklet, it uses data from the law courts that shows that 91% of the grooming convictions are muslim – Pakistani, Afghani. One cannot ignore that fact.

      http://lawandfreedomfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Easy-Meat-Multiculturalism-Islam-and-Child-Sex-Slavery-05-03-2014.pdf

      • Ric Euteneuer

        What – read a pamphlet by a far right anti-Muslim group ? THAT’S going to be independent and impartial, isn’t it ?

      • Phleb

        Yes Ben, why look at facts and remember mass rape and child abuse happens all the time by all cultures…no story here. Way to deflect Ric. Nothing new here…lets move on right p*Ric?

  • Dissavowed

    I want to know, have these gangs of Pakistanis specifically targeted white children?

    • red2black

      There are exceptions, but in Britain at least, the children tend to be white, regardless of the nationality, religion, politics, social class or skin-coiour of their abusers.

  • Tomolika

    The Pakistani’s are getting annoyed by pointing the finger at them. The funny thing is, Pakistanis like raping. During the Pakistani and Bangladesh Liberation war in 1971, Pakistani Army raped many women and girls and got them pregnant. Looks like it’s in their blood. They are very much loyal to their faith Islam, yet they behave like perverts and animals. They also break many marriages due to affairs etc. They are not to be trusted.

  • Tomolika

    When I was about 9 years old I had a neighbour who was living with his parents few doors away and this was a Pakistani grown man the difference was he was mentally disabled yet he tried to sexually molest me and had to fight him off once when I came home from school. I never spoke about it to anyone. I had very uneducated and backward parents wouldn’t have helped (muslims of course). Because he was mentally challenged he scared me a bit so I fought him off.

  • JohnnyHomeless

    Talk about bias…. the word “Muslim” is not mentioned once in this article! Okaaay…

  • evad666

    Who will be held to account for the horror in Rotherham? Why no one of course!!
    They were being good Muslims and raping white girls as part of Jihad.

  • 2ndrow

    This might have been dealt with differently – Up until Mr Blair and his bully boys ensured that race was a taboo subject, and not to be discussed so as to ensure delivery of the Asian vote

    • Lorenzo

      Asian? You actually can say or write “Muslim” if you work on losing your inhibitions.

  • FedUpIndian

    An Englishman predicted more than 50 years ago how multiculti would work:

    “In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you
    would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that
    claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not
    merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external
    reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies
    was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill
    you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after
    all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of
    gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and
    the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is
    controllable — what then?”

    Thoughtcrime, newspeak, erasing inconvenient history, brainwashing the people – it was all foreseen in “1984.” It is a pity George Orwell and Enoch Powell were “vox clamantis in deserto”.

  • Med Man

    Apparently ISIS has been in Rotherham for years. Forced rapes and conversions of infidels.

  • gerry Marks

    which taxi company had these children picked up at night ? they new this was wrong
    then they invoiced the council for payment , who owns the taxi firms

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      knew

      • http://www.ukip.org/index/ George Smiley (deceased)

        That you are also a twerp.

  • David Mortimer

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Freedomofinformation@rotherham.gov.uk
    To: david@mortimers-removals.co.uk
    Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:21 AM
    Subject: Freedom Of Information Request (1235) – Response From Rotherham MBC

    Dear Mr. Mortimer

    Thank you for your request for information received on the 28 February 2014, please find detailed below the response from Rotherham MBC.

    Request

    (a) the council authority, council officer and the name of that officer, who decides on what information on child neglect and abuse is collected & held by your council;

    The Strategic Director of Children & Young People’s Services within Rotherham MBC is the officer who holds statutory responsibility for child protection services. This is Joyce Thacker, who delegates some of these responsibilities to the Director of Safeguarding, Children & Families.

    (b) the means by which that person is held to account by a member of the public for their performance in discharging that public function;

    The Strategic Director of Children & Young People’s Services is directly accountable to the Lead Cabinet Member for Children & Young People’s Services who is an elected official appointed by the Leader of the Council. Additionally, the HMI-Ofsted, also inspect and provide judgement on performance.

    (c) the council authority, the council officer and the name of that officer, responsible for your child protection policies;

    The Strategic Director of Children & Young People’s Services within Rotherham MBC is the officer who holds statutory responsibility for child protection services. This is Joyce Thacker, who delegates some of these responsibilities to the Director of Safeguarding, Children & Families.

    (d) the means by which that person is held to account by a member of the public for their performance in discharging that public function;

    The Strategic Director of Children & Young People’s Services is directly accountable to the Lead Cabinet Member for Children & Young People’s Services, who is an elected official appointed by the Leader of the Council. Additionally, the HMI-Ofsted, also inspect and provide judgement on performance.

    (e) how the function in (c) is properly discharged and held accountable for policies which would best effectively protect children from abuse if the person referred to in (a) does not collect any information on child abuse perpetration?”

    Given the officer named in (a) and (c) are the same person, this question is invalidated.

    Yours Sincerely

    Wayne Singleton

    Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council

    http://www.ukfamilylawreform.co.uk/rotherhammetropolitanboroughcouncil.htm

  • Kellie Cottam

    When will people realise what is going on….. Children who are abused are left, its the innocent families they take the children from… WAKE UP PEOPLE…… http://www.forcedadoptionexposed.com Now even worse… Every person who suffered the abuse will now have there children taken saying they didnt get the right help…

    • red2black

      The other side of the situation is that babies and children are neglected, abused, and sometimes murdered because the family is kept together.

  • john wesley hardin

    If this happened in only one town you could blame it on a particular paedophile ring, because it spontaneously manifested in many towns all over the country you have to consider it is something particular to the Pakistani community. So why? My bet would be the Muslim religion, What has happened here is because the women in their own community are unavailable due to religious intolerance towards healthy sex large numbers of these perverts have started hanging around schools and children’s homes. If you put a bag over the head of your women and supply two slits for eye holes and cover them from head to foot you end up with an unhealthy situation.

  • Bilbo Banks

    Sickening truly sickening how we always see the people that are in such high regards look down on its people with scorn and disdain another OBE man but this does not end here as this is going on in each city how many more are looking the other way how many more innocent children are suffering today ????

  • gerronwithit

    Anyone see Panorama tonight? 30 minute programme that took 15 minutes to come out with the word ‘Pakistani’. May have been used one more time but that was it. You know that this is another one that’ll be talked out by the politicos, police and the BBC.

  • Paul Darrow

    Watching from across the pond the apathy of the brits towards the abuse of their children is truly disturbing. Why haven’t the brits taken matters into their own hands yet? Why don’t they get together and go to where these Officials and complicit Police work and physically remove them from their jobs? Failure to take matters into their own hands makes the brits and parents of abused children fully complicit in all of it.

    • Joanna

      Mostly because there are very few of us left. And the small few there are, have been hit with every “austerity” measure imaginable, and are just trying to survive until the next day. Don’t worry, America is rapidly following suit.

  • roccolore

    No surprise that the Labour Party runs the area. They cover for radical Islam and defended the grooming gangs for years.

  • Jimbo7

    ‘Who should be accountable’ come on we all know which religion is responsible.
    Having freedom of religion in the west is eroding the very core values in our own society. We’ve been given just a disgusting taste of what this particular religion has to offer.

    Boston Bombings
    9/11
    London Bombings 2005
    Lee Rigby
    In Rotherham the grooming of young girls.
    James Foley and Steven Sotloff

    How much more will we take for the sake of inclusion?
    How can we defend this ideology that seems to inspire so much evil? Is it really worth it? Its all well and good liberals and progressives sat there in front of their TV screens watching the news about James Foley and Steven Sotloff far away from danger themselves. What about when it is suddenly you kneeling in that place? Will you be defending this religion then?
    I’m sorry if anybody finds what I say offensive but enough is enough and I have a legitimate right to be offended and deeply concerned by ‘this religion’ and its ideology and so does every free man woman and child in the world!
    I’VE NOT MENTIONED THE NAME OF ANY RELIGION SO IT SHOULDN’T BE BLOCKED AND YOU ALL KNOW WHICH RELIGION IT IS.

    • Phleb

      Chuck made this statement on another news site. I don’t think he’d mind if I borrow his words:
      “The sooner they outlaw this spurious, murderous, violent political system called “Islam,” the better.”

      Don’t make apologies. It’s time and evidently clear we make our voices heard on this PC garbage.

  • Sam Baxter

    You’d think removing children from a family because of the parent’s political preferences would be infuriating and worrying and totalitarian in regard to the liberty of free vote choice in this free country, but now these absolutely pathetic people can’t even call a spade a spade and arrest every single muslim who perpetrated these hoard of paedophilic rapes. I hereby call for the arrest and exile of not only every every muslim male who carried out these crimes, but also the arrest of the paranoid racist council themselves for their selective, partial, dealing with muslim rapists simple because they are muslims. You know Ukip is ironically a party that deals impartially, equally with all people and subjects everyone to the same treatment regardless of their walk of life. I,e the actually non-racist approach. Its the LEFTISTS who are racist, they are so paranoid and racist that they have to hide behind slandering sane people as such. I say DOWN with political correctness. These rapes were not an “Asian” phenomenon as this report suggests. That is a slander on Hindus and Sikhs. This is a MUSLIM phenomenon. Its the RELIGION, not their race, that motivates them to commit these rapes. Its time to GET REAL and clamp down on Islam. Its already TRANSENDS OUR LEGAL SYSTEM AND IS ALLOWED TO PRACTICE ITS OWN FOR CHRIST’S SAKE. VIOLATING OUR PRINCIPLES OF EQUAL RIGHTS AND ONE LAW FOR ALL.

  • DJ

    as a former frontline worker for all the looked after children in RMBC care, i can say that the senior managers are as corrupt as accused, they did know about all this and being ‘fearful’ of being seen as racist is the biggest load of …… i have ever heard, and…. the police too, I bought a ‘paedophile’ i learned of to the attention of the police and my employers the council children services , with the proof to back up my findings, and willingly, went to the authorities that were the people to bring this to the attention of, as i was in child protection and a front line worker directly with the young people in an all girls unit where i permanently worked with LAC from 2005 to 2007, this information i gave in regards to this paedophile, and the evidence to validate it, this resulted in this particular male being arrested, forensics found a big cluster of evidence that went back some years, the police went into his home and found the following too, drugs in the property and taser equipment as well as the horrid evidence that confirmed my statement of the initial complaint, he was sentenced in crown court in the early part of 2008 and for the downloading of child pornography, firearms possession and drug possession…..he was a white caucasian male….. the sentence was only for about 8 weeks!!! and he was released once again…… but, the point here is, i was, as a RSW in direct contact with the firs in care at this children’s home were my priority and when i discovered the above and the nature of it, i immediately knew bringing this infer forward to the relevant bodies who deal with this, and my actions upon this, was what i THOUGHT was a duty of care and to protect children, due to being a hands on care staff and directly working with these very vulnerable girls protector of children working for RMBC within children and young peoples services, I had done my duty and raised this evidence and in due course secured a committal to prison of this offender which i was the primary and only person as the main witness, which i saw through, my duty was done and this male was punished, when i had an interview with my employers (senior management) they, between them in 2007, sacked me with immediate effect, which shocked me and my mother who had spoken to a particular senior manager in the first instance, because the person who had committed these offences, was indeed an ex partner of mine, … I STRESS that… I didn’t have to or indeed i didn’t have an obligation to freely upon my own initiative and duty of care responsibilities, actually say anything at all, i COULD have kept that to myself to avoid any trouble being brought back to myself…. but i didn’t, i did exactly what i was suppose to do given the nature of my job and a duty to protect children….. the senior management, and the police between them, treat me in a despicable manner, they did not follow any policy procedures,, they covered this up, adjusted paperwork, removed paperwork that was to my accreditation, brought fictitious evidence they arranged with the police and falsified all documentation of the disciplinary process, and SACKED ME because he was my partner at that time…… please justify this behaviour and actioning , the whole scenario i went through with my union rep, and what we had both witnessed in so far as the Ch & Y peoples senior child protection services, i was dismissed immediately for bringing a paeodophile to their attention, i was the main witness to commit him to prison, and indeed secured his prison sentence, and they SACKED me, and made up, engineered and manufactured pure lies to justify their actions opt dismissing me, Pam Allen was the head of children’s services at that time and Katy Hawkins was equally guilty of falsifying reports and i can name these despicable people who failed me as they failed all the children, and when i brought one of these child abusers to justice, they sack me with the false reports that me and my union rep witnessed, they did not comply with any of the procedures that the disciplinary process was, they had no evidence what so ever against e as i had never ever had so much as a disciplinary record during the years prior to this on my records, no verbal warnings only good appraisals and reports from each and every unit in the RMBC child care and genre of services including disabilities, my previous record in all my employment since leaving school were to the highest standard of care delivery and were in public services and education, this made me ill and near suicide as they did this to me, and then secured me on a ‘gagging’ order so that i could not talk about any of this, i was in the care of multi agency help, councillors, hospital, gp, abuse agencies who had assessed me as a high risk of suicide following this period and they even stopped me from working with any vulnerable services, or with children ever again, they said i was as bad as the paedophile, and that was their excuse, my appeal with the elected members and shaun wright was in post as the service leader, and the appeal was not conducted by policy, and pam allen and katy hawkins were present, at this appeal and they produced false evidence they had invented and info joint with police who also did the same, to secure a result in dismissing me… but the most criminal part of all this saga, was after i was still dismissed after the appeal charade where they deemed me unfit to work with children…. They called my union rep straight after this hearing, i had to wait outside, and they said to my rep, that they would like to offer me another contract and employment as they felt sorry for me and would give me a job in a school 9working with children)….. now please please justify this because for the past 7 years since this happened i was paid out 15,000 for unfair dismissal and sexual discrimination……. So doesn’t this action above any from the councillors hearing panel held in the town hall, who chaired my appeal and did not uphold my case to be reinstated really saying in contradiction…… that i hadn’t done anything to be of any risk to kids by verbally offering my rep this other job also with children admitting that all along i was as i and my rep knew, not guilty, it was intact an action that made this whole case the most despicable, sea of lies to blame me for bringing this man forward and proof of my suspicions correct by the sentence he received……. 7 years they are still affecting me, the suicide feelings i went through as i could not justify or talk to anyone about, the multi agencies that were involved with me as a result of this treatment, and i was refused to be taken in the tribunal case that was arranged, to enable m,e to tell the tribunal the truth and all the evidence to prove that was held by myself, in meticulous order that indeed did prove they had sabotaged and doctored evidence to incriminate me, the unions solicitors told me the night before the tribunal of me vs rmbc social service for children, that they would NOT take me into a tribunal and advised me to take the 15,000 in full settlement, as i may lose altogether…. i assured the solicitor acting for me that he knew very well i ad all the evidence that would indeed PROVE my innocents and also the senior management had indeed created and presented false evidence to secure them reason to dismiss me, because i had no record within my service to working with these children in the history of my employment in all departments with varied service users and LAC homes whatsoever, and this all had to be engineered because i was an excellent, caring and genuinely a worker that held an immaculate and high record of service within all social services placements i had been sent by them to work within, my paperwork and reports were considered very very detailed and to high standards that were always commented on as excellent recording and presenting, with the information contained that gave every detail of the events that took place, and i suppose this gave info to the inspectors who often contacted me due to my concerns and backed up information that proved this, my reports used to go missing regularly, in case CSCI saw just how incompetent the management really were, so they contacted me to do reports due to my honest and genuine care for these children……… and that my friends is, as is always from me, the truth…. but, they made sure there were no witnesses to all this going on, just my union rep….. i am still not working after 7 years, they refuse to reference me to work in any other service or position with people, which has indeed impacted into my future, i had so much to give and was a genuine sincere, clean worker, and the children used to know i was there for their interests nothing else and i practiced with that in mind for many years without any mark against my name, my life has been ruined and my career with children, nursing, school medical roles, phlebotomy and medical work, all adult and children’s services in rmbc and sheffield bc, and every job i have worked within, were backed up by written references from all managerial levels when i left any job through the agencies, rmbc bank staff, and permanent posts in rmbc, please tell me what this was all about, i am still being ignored and not listened too…..

  • Fubtek

    I am a little bit confused about the pretence and outrage

  • Paul

    Chiefs of both the Police and the Army have been saying for a very long
    time that at least 75% of terror threats from within the UK come from
    those of Pakistani origin. Yet we have allowed them to arrive here in
    their thousands for years and years. Most have made absolutely no atempt
    to assimilate the British way of life and have tried to make little
    Pakistans in every town and city in the UK. And because of Labour and
    the Tories they have succeeded. Its a national tragedy that eclipses
    both World Wars in terms of how devastating its been for Britain and the
    indigenous population. Is there anything good to say about Asians and particularly Pakistani Asians? Terror threats and rape is all we read about. We need a revolutioin in this country and we need to start removing the Asian population and specifically the Pakistani and Bangledehi element as soon as possible. If you vote for Labour and the Tories then you are complicit in all of this because you have put the parties in power that have encouraged the Asian settlement in the UK over the last two to three decades.

  • FORMER RSW DJ

    how about growing some balls and using the positions with enough power as a multi force of authority and doing what you are the re to do and that is not settting up and framing reports on the good workers who are the ones who are set up and abused in another way by you in bullying exploitation, get rid of the ones who are a thrAt and do their jobs over beyond expected, follow protection policies, write reports for multi direction and for case or incident documenting……, these people with these skills are a threat to uncovering the underhand dealings going on, and take good CP workers away, and do nothing to stop and save these kids being raped and kind of supplied if ya see where I’m coming from……. social services evidently do not exist in practice only when need to be

  • Clara Meury

    Does the Queen of England think that she can turn a blind eye / ear to all this, because she does not care?

    • Joanna

      Her daughter in law is up the duff again….

  • videosavant

    And the very source of this tragedy is contained in this article — not a single mention of Muslims.

    Carry on, England. Your days are numbered. You are the cause of your own demise.

  • Paul

    Dear author! Thanks for the article! But I see some strange move to hide a real national/etnical background even in this (quite sensational) article too: Why the hell to call the criminals “the mainly Asian gangs that perpetrated the abuse” ???
    Everybody around (just read the comments) knows that the gang members are Pakistani Muslims, anyone who want to know will find it easily.
    Why to hide it? Why to insult many other etnical/religious groups who are also Asian?? They were not Indian Hinduist, nor Thai Buddhist, nor China Triades or Vietnam Atheist, nor Japan Yakudza, nor Koreans,… etc. If I would be one of these groups mentioned I would sue the newspaper and author: you know who perperators are – call their etnicity, religion (which is actually the reason for their action) and origin directly, not hide it with some vague “Asian”. Otherwise we will soon find a lot of articles trying to hide the problem by the definitions like “men”, “Homo Sapiens” and eventually “Higher Primates” for political correctness sake!

  • swilbs

    Not one mention that all the attackers were Muslim and all the victims were not…
    Just an oversight I am sure.

  • Joanna

    Pakistani muslims born in the uk are some of the most obnoxious, vile, racist people I have ever encountered.

  • shafawn

    They can come to my house for breakfast.. I’m serving bacon and lead.
    Wake up UK.. arm yourselves

  • Terri O’Rourke

    I’m reading here 9/13/2014. I read more than 12 posts. The mentally ill predators who organize this business need a bullet in the temple. Period.
    The Pakistani’s need deportation and loss of passport, British papers. Period.
    The British government and Queen are pathetic abetters no better than the predators if the above is not done. SHAME on Great Britain. You are NOT Great at all anymore.
    You are idiots.

  • Rob Roy

    The question that comes to mind is what happened to England when this has been allowed to happen?

    Obviously the lack of any common sense in their immigration policies has contributed greatly. Not holding ppl responsible for their actions.

    Close the doors to Islamic immigration asap and start holding people responsible.

    • FORMER RSW DJ

      Enoch Powell got it right, on the nail for sure, even he saw what was coming with the tidal wave of, lets just saw, non nationals…. others bombarding our customs back in the 70’s, when he said you should be very vigilant of the immigration numbers going out of control….. NOW we got the french doing a sprint from calais, like rats up drainpipes over the high wired fences and trying too get in the cars ferry, tunnel, or anything they can crawl in like Houdini……. wtf, is so difficult to striking up a strategy operation, and seeing this through and restoring some balance and harmony its time to grow some bollocks and sift through, manhunt down the illegals, close all gates to ‘stupid britain, who have once again f****d it all up, for crying out loud, if they can’t take stock of this crisis situation, get some balls of steel, and take hold of gathering the loose ends who just come her like ants,,,, and again, the real british citizen gets the brunt end of the shit……. these gutless braindead authorities are as much use as tits on a fish! if its a case of not taking this situation to task, then get ya coats, get the hell out of the way, and let me get in there and begin the operation, zero tolerance, no is no and let this land come back up for air, talk about thick as two short plants…. its always the useless rag ends who don’t have a clue, time to reclaim our own land and shot blast the rest, enough is enough, christ, just get the bloody job done, rocket science it aint

  • Terri O’Rourke

    It is 9/17/14. I am back because this story continues to gnaw at me. I am from the USA and do not respect Russia’s Putin, but read this letter…. speech he gave to his parliament in 2013. Wrong leader, right attitude.

    “In Russia we live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws.
    If they prefer Shari’ya Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’.

    We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities. When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first, observing that the minorities are not Russians.”

    The politicians in the Duma gave Putin a standing ovation for five minutes!

  • andrea

    the development of a society is judged by how it treats it’s weakest members. children and young girls in england are still being regarded as dickensian style prey. you are either with wealthy parents who keep you away from the villains and criminals and protect you in their own closed world or you are a girl who is just going to a state school or lives in an orphanage and the society does not care if criminals abuse you. worse even, you are being called a slut, because the offenders are “pakis” – the forbidden word- bad men who come from a community disregarded and disrespected by orderly english people and unknown to many of them, just like in the middle ages in europe or like in pakistan these days. it proves: england is still medievial in it’s mind. and when men from medievial backgrounds like these pakistanis come along and take for themselves the vulnerable members of the english society, the good english “buerger” whose own kids are in safety – they look away. just like in the middle ages. – as a consequence of recent events all schools in the uk need to have training courses for kids as young as 7 to educate about such dangers.
    but the english are so squeamish they do even shy away from sexual education for kids at this age, just like islam and the middleages. time to wake up UK !
    rotherham and middlesborough prove that such courses need to be established asap. i am from the gdr, east germany. yes, spectator readers laugh about us. but we had courses about sexual education when we were 13. (warnings about grooming were not necessary at the time). that was in 1975. england needs to catch up on this. and upper and middle class english need to respect people who do not have as much money as they have. all people in the uk need to stick together now against medievial attitudes, still ruling the mind of many english and immigrants from remote countries.

  • Brodie Costigan

    EVERYONE KNOWS THE NEW LABOUR PAEDOPHILES IN ROTHERHAM HELPED MUSLIM PAEDOPHILES RAPE THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT WHITE CHILDREN.

    YOU’D BETTER HOPE THE MUSLIMS DON’T START A RACE WAR IN THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE IF THEY DO THEN NOBODY IS GOING TO PROTECT LEFTIE PAEDOPHILES LIKE YOU.

  • Celestino Rodrigues

    How many muslims were working for the council, then involved with corruption?

  • dave davies

    The Police MUST follow up with immediate arrests of all those known to have participated or condoned this abuse. Special courts should be set-up. If necessary, new prisons built. The future of our society depends on the police acting, now.

  • Melody Szabo

    Why haven’t citizens demonstrated with violence? The town council and police stations should have been occupied, vandalized and burned with this kind of rape scandal. I’m also astonished that people haven’t begun shooting the raping muslims to clean up the mess. The whole thing is a scandal like no other.

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