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It’s not only Germany that covers up mass sex attacks by migrant men... Sweden’s record is shameful

Stockholm police were warned not to give descriptions of the perpetrators lest they were accused of being racist

16 January 2016

9:00 AM

16 January 2016

9:00 AM

 

 Stockholm

It took days for police to acknowledge the extent of the mass attacks on women celebrating New Year’s Eve in Cologne. The Germans were lucky; in Sweden, similar attacks have been taking place for more than a year and the authorities are still playing catch up. Only now is the truth emerging, both about the attacks and the cover-ups. Stefan Löfven, our Prime Minister, has denounced a ‘double betrayal’ of women and has promised an investigation. But he ought to be asking this: what made the police and even journalists cover up the truth?

The answer can be discovered in the reaction to the Cologne attacks. Sweden prides itself on its sexual equality and has even pioneered a feminist foreign policy. When hundreds of women were reported to have been molested and abused in Cologne — at the hands of an organised mob — the reaction from Swedish politicians and pundits ought to have been one of outrage.

Instead, we were told that the events in Cologne were not unusual. An article in Aftonbladet, Sweden’s largest tabloid, argued that it was racist to point out that the perpetrators in Cologne had been described as North African or Arab, since German men had carried out sexual assaults during Bavaria’s Oktober-fest. Another Aftonbladet article said that reporting on the Cologne attacks was bowing to right-wing extremism. Over the last week, we have been told over and over that the real issue is men, not any particular culture — that Swedish men are no better.

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Then last week Sweden’s own stories began to emerge. During the We Are Sthlm music festival, large groups of young men harassed girls sexually. It began in 2014 and it also went on during last year’s festival. According to internal police reports the groups were ‘so-called refugee youths primarily from Afghanistan’. The youngest of the victims was 12 years old.

The police claimed that there were ‘relatively few crimes and arrests considering the number of participants’. Internal reports told a different story. The police were shocked enough by the harassment to try to come up with a strategy to handle the groups of molesters at the festival — a strategy that was evidently unsuccessful. The trouble was that they were trying to deal with a problem but would not speak its name. As Peter Ågren, police chief in central Stockholm, put it: ‘Sometimes we do not dare to say how things really are because we believe it will play into the hands of the Sweden Democrats.’ As we now know, police officers in Stockholm are instructed not to reveal the ethnicity or nationality of any suspects lest they be accused of racism.

The Sweden Democrats are the anti-immigration populist force in Sweden — no longer a fringe element but the third–largest party after the election of 2014. Opinion polls suggest they are growing ever stronger. They are reviled by all other parties, who try to fight them by rejecting their every claim as baseless. As a result, immigration cannot be discussed frankly in Sweden. If you mention anything negative about refugees or immigration, you’re accused of playing into the hands of the reviled far-right. As a result, even legitimate concerns are silenced or labelled xenophobic. The recent migration crisis has changed this only slightly.

When a country cannot hold honest debates, there are consequences. Take Roger Ticoalu, director of events at Stockholm City Council. He said he had been utterly unaware of the risk of such attacks:

‘It was a modus operandi that we had never seen before: large groups of young men who surround girls and molest them.’

The German police made a similar point: they are used to handling drunks. But gangs of young men encircling and then groping women at large public gatherings: who has ever heard of such a thing?

In the Arab world, it’s something of a phenomenon. It has a name: ‘Taharrush gamea’. Sometimes the girls are teased and have their veils torn off by gangs of young men; sometimes it escalates into rape. Five years ago, this form of attack was the subject of an award-winning Egyptian film, 678. Instances of young men surrounding and attacking girls were reported throughout the Arab Spring protests in Cairo in 2011 and 2012. Lara Logan, a CNN journalist covering the fall of Hosni Mubarak, was raped in Tahrir Square. Taharrush gamea is a modern evil, and it’s being imported into Europe. Our authorities ought to be aware of it.

But they can’t be made aware, when any mention of the issue is discouraged. This leaves the police unprepared, and leaves the public feeling not just vulnerable but deceived. It doesn’t take a conspiracy theorist to wonder how many more instances there have been where Swedish police have taken political considerations into account before disclosing information.

Before Dan Eliasson became Sweden’s national police commissioner, he tweeted that he ‘vomited’ when he saw Jimmie Åkesson, party leader of the Sweden Democrats, on television. To what degree were his own personal political views imprinted on the Swedish police? Were the officers who covered up the sexual harassments responding to signals from Eliasson? Did they think that making a fuss about immigrant crime was a bad career move, and did that stop them doing their duty?

Even now, Swedes are still trying to figure out what exactly has been going on. Reports are emerging of Taharrush gamea-style harassment in Malmö on New Year’s Eve. According to police reports, hundreds of refugee youths from Afghanistan roamed around and ‘surrounded intoxicated girls/women and harassed them’. Similar incidents are being reported from towns such as Kalmar and Karlstad. The Finnish authorities are handling reports of organised sexual harassment perpetrated by Iraqi immigrants.

We Swedes pride ourselves on our unrivalled record on respecting women’s rights. But when women’s rights conflict with the goal of accommodating other cultures, it’s almost always women who are pushed to the side. This week, the chattering classes in Sweden will be worrying about how this story plays into the hands of the Sweden Democrats. But events have moved beyond that. The truth may be painful. Yet, as we have seen, concealing the truth is worse.

Ivar Arpi is an editorial page writer for Svenska Dagbladet.

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  • Rik

    Nothing new here,the UK MSM conspired with the local politicians and police to keep the vile grooming gangs out of the spotlight,let us remember it was the Muslim council for Britain that described early reports as “a racist fantasy”It was only after Breibart broke the Cologne story that the horrors emerged.Liberal Leftard progressives are desperate to censor the facts because it doesn’t fit their agendas, faced with the truth when it can longer be hidden how do they react??They stick their fingers in their ears and go lalalalalalalalala anything rather than face the reality that mass Muslim immigration has been a disaster for Western Civilisation.

    • Arne Knäck

      The new thing, and what makes Sweden different, is that Ivar has no place to publish this in Sweden, not even in his own paper.
      No one would have published this, let alone with comments enabled.

      We have to use media abroad to discus Swedish affairs

      • mrs1234

        So much for democratic freedom in Sweden – such a concept is increasingly becoming an illusion everywhere in the West but Sweden is leading the way.

        • Verk

          And that’s why the savages flock there in their hundreds of thousands. Charlemagne fought them tooth and nail. His modern version clothes, houses and feeds the monster and then offers them his daughters, thinking he is “modern” and noble and virtuous in doing do.
          Someone pass me a bucket.

        • Bonkim

          Only people living in the clouds are capable of dreaming perfection – the rest knew the bitter truth all along.

        • bchguyx

          Sweden is a failed state. The UK and Germany are close behind.

        • Earl Wyatt

          Truth is I don’t believe that there is such a thing as “democratic freedom” wherever you look so called “liberal democratic” countries appear to have the subjugation of their citizens in mind. They use semantics to convey a peaceful and well meaning motive behind a policy name but the real intentions are far from what the name implies.

          The Swedes Germans and indeed most of the Caucasian race has been beaten psychologically over several generations now and thus descend into passivity when confronted with the need to say or do something in defense of themselves and their loved ones. The fear of being stigmatized with the new “catch all” branding of racist outweighs the natural instinct to defend. I have actually spoken to people, one particular example stands out when discussing a nearly avoided home invasion with a mother of two, she stated that she could not kill someone. Not even if they were murdering or about to murder her children. I am still horrified by this although the vanilla masses will insist that I respect her view I do not, can not and will never.

          This is the sickness of the mind that the hard left has been indoctrinated into. A very interesting study indeed is the series from Yuri Bezmenov an ex KGB Agent now deceased who explains in detailed lectures that took place in the 1980s on the Soviet war of subversion. Bear in mind that these lectures took place in the 70s or 80s and they will appear nothing less that prophetic to anyone viewing today. In fact they were merely explaining the cause and effect of a very well executed series of subversion operations undertook by the Soviets throughout the cold war. Of course the Soviets themselves never adopted these ideals. They were quite simply just a weapon to destroy western society.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

      • http://kebabville.blogspot.co.uk/ joe slater

        Nobody is more responsible for Sweden’s current mess than its mainstream journalists. Expressen and Aftonbladet are the most despicable newspapers I have read in the free world, but DN and SvD are not much better. Sweden today is the nearest thing Europe has to the GDR (as Swedes say often say themselves). All Swedish newspapers hide the truth about Muslim immigration, and the first two persecute anybody who disagrees. Expressen hacked Disqus accounts and put 11 ‘xenophobic’ commentators on their front page, leading to sackings and one alleged suicide. Aftonbladet ran a cover saying Nej to SD in huge letters (SD=Sweden Democrats) on election eve. A local ran a picture of the SD leader Aakesson as a giant cockcroach, with an exterminator in the background. Result? SD vote goes up from single digits to 25% or so by one poll. The Swedish media is so despised and distrusted by half the Swedish population that alternative garden-shed newssites like avpixlat are serious rivals now. What idiots the Swedes have been–taking one of the best countries in the world and throwing it down the toilet. I would rather live in Poland now than Sweden, because you’re freer there.

      • http://www.presstitutes.org/ Mike Conrad

        We have to do the same thing in America. We read the DM to learn about our local crime sprees.

        “Stockholm police were warned not to give descriptions of the perpetrators” –it’s been like this since the 1960s in the USA.

      • Qaisar Rashid

        Sad!

    • Bonkim

      Not ‘has been’ it is work in progress.

    • Dr_Eigenvector
    • Qaisar Rashid

      the UK MSM + local politicians + police, this must be a big conspiracy hatched against the locals. Thanks god the locals are safe now.

  • voidist

    i became suspicious of sweden when they made a series of tele-detective films where the good
    guys were terrorists and CIA was the real villain….there were several films along this lines..
    it sounded very much like islamic xenophobia where americans , Israelis and Kafirs are the main
    Problem and muslims are all exploited peace lovers
    as a result i dont feel one bit sorry for them for what they are about to run into with thier beloved
    islamic guests…..

    • Alison Houston

      You are thinking like a Socialist, although you don’t mean to. There is no such thing as Sweden. There are Marxist and Socialist politicians who implemented the immigration policy, there are Marxist and Socialist individuals who support it, lots of them. There are young men from all over the Middle East and Africa whose religion encourages them to believe in their greater potency as followers of the highly sexed Prophet, and which also encourages acts of misogyny. Then there are individual young women, who have been raped and assaulted and molested while going about their daily lives. Surely you don’t actually believe the individual young women deserve these attacks because of the values of the politicians, the attackers or the rest of left wing Swedish society?

      • Mow_the_Grass

        Every country gets the government they want.
        The majority of Swedes obviously like the policies of the current government otherwise they would not be in power.
        How many of these ‘young women’ were happy to vote in this government.
        Sweden btw has always had a soft spot for the ME arab/muslim.
        We know their attitude well – thats why we have just banned any of their officials in my country – starting with their beloved FM

        • voidist

          it is interesting what you say….Sweden and Germanys love for islam is

          directly proportional to thier virulently anti-semite bend of mind…

          for e.g swedish youngsters and arab thugs went on rampage agianst

          jews in Malmo….they virtually haunted jews out of that city….

        • Alison Houston

          Naive, young people are often left wing, voting according to childish ideals, because they don’t have sufficient experience of the harsh realities of the world. Nobody deserves sexual harrassment or rape or assault however silly and naive and left wing they are.

          The one legitimate role that libertarians concede that the state has, because it is able to provide it better than the individual, is defence of the realm. However one might wish to blame individuals for voting for politicians with no sense of the importance of that role, or for those who do not believe citizens might ever need protecting, one cannot say the victims got their just deserts, in suffering the consequences of those politicians’ failings.

          • Mow_the_Grass

            yeah – whatever

      • voidist

        no off course not..heaven forbid…but these things were known long time ago

        before they let these sexual predators in….

    • anka

      All their crime novels are about the seedy world of Sweden underground where all the horrific sadistic misogynistic crimes are committed by whites – natives or Russians.

      • Mow_the_Grass

        A lot of northern europe/scandanavia has over the years become bloated/smug/self satisfied/debauched.
        This is s good wake up call for germany and sweden.

        • anka

          I saw a Swedish movie some time ago – different stories about female abuses. So PC, I wanted to throw out. All about the evil men in Scandinavian societies. One stories “dared” to speak about honor crimes, but the Turkish family at the center was… Christian.

          • voidist

            the most absurd one i saw was one about an american serial killer who comes

            to sweden and starts killing muslim refugees and thier sympathisers…

            the sad part is,, this kind of filth only gets made because there is a local viewer

            demand for them

          • lmda

            Hmm, the BBC churns out this kind of propaganda-heavy fiction on both radio and television and I certainly never asked for it.

          • Oliver

            Yes the episode of the BBC’s Spooks drama where the Islamist terrorists turn out to be Mossad comes to mind.

          • voidist

            i think after beebs lover affair with islamists there has now been a period

            of quiet reflection…. who has really has moved in to fill that slot is sky-news,

      • Germainecousin

        You are getting very close to the nub of the issue. People who are most preoccupied with rights often use the obsession as a vehicle to hide their secret agenda. Certain American film directors obsess with slavery, but their constant dragging up of the past is often a ruse to remind a certain section of the population historic inferiority. The left don’t get get it, they confuse superiority with sympathy.

        • voidist

          i had many socialist friends when i was poor…….as soon as i started making

          money they left me……how dare i earn more than they ?

          i know now that most socialists are weak characters who live in a world

          of containment……

          Hitler was nobody until he convinced the socialists to join him….

          socialists and nationalists came together to be called nazis or national-socialists

          it does not surprise me that most socialists get on very well with

          islamo-fasicsts

        • anka

          Obsessed with slavery and colonial guilt and white men awfulness- see The Revenant. Nous sommes tous savage/We are all savages it’s the message written on a tree by some horrible French in that movie after they hang a saint like Indian. Here is an interesting link about propaganda pop culture: http://takimag.com/article/propaganda_pop_culture_from_cuckmercials_to_star_wars_gavin_mcinnes/page_2#axzz3xIzXHPut

    • Pip

      The CIA are behind IS/AL Qaeda, this is not fantasy this is fact.

      • voidist

        you pakistani.?

  • davidshort10

    This article is long on anecdotes but short on facts.

    • voidist

      thats a Generalisation you make when you concede that you dont understand the issue at Hand..( david is short on Facts )times 10

    • KingEric

      Have you really not read about this before? Are you trying to say it is not a problem that Sweden is now number 2 in the world for the chances of a woman being raped and that this only happened after migrants swelled its ranks?

    • Puddle

      Yeah, references to widely reported events (albeit begrudgingly for some journalists) does not constitute an “anecdote”.

      Did the Cologne attacks not happen?

      Did Lara Logan not get raped in Tahir Square?

      Have the progressive (read: regressive) left not made every effort to avoid talking about the escalation of rapes in Sweden?

      Burying your head in the sand or turning the other cheek at what’s happening in Europe; acts that are rightly condemned in this very article, isn’t going to save the progressives from their cognitive dissonance. Whilst the left agonises over which ideology should supercede the other, feminism vs cultural relativism, the masses will simply turn to the right for answers.

    • anka

      Go to Gatestone Institute for links and data about Sweden mass rapes.

      • MickC

        I see it is chaired by that well known Neocon John Bolton, hardly a guarantee of fair minded reporting…..

    • cartimandua

      Its easily available online. Sweden now has a rape rate as high as South Africa.

      • MickC

        Sweden does, of course, have a very wide definition of rape, as A55ange found out. His imprisonment continues….

        • cartimandua

          Not really most of the rape victims are children or very young girls just past puberty.
          from infowars
          “Sweden has been experiencing a rape epidemic ever since it threw its borders open to mass immigration in the 1970’s, although people who draw attention to it are labeled racist by leftists and some have even been hit with hate crime charges.

          Rapes in Sweden have skyrocketed by a shocking 1,472% since the mid-70’s, with 6,620 sexual assaults being reported to police in 2014 compared to just 421 in 1975.

          “77.6 percent of the country’s rapists are identified as “foreigners” (and that’s significant because in Sweden, “foreigner” is generally synonymous with “immigrant from Muslim country”), writes Selwyn Duke. “And even this likely understates the issue, since the Swedish government — in an effort to obscure the problem — records second-generation Muslim perpetrators simply as “Swedes.”

          This is also just the latest example of migrants gang-raping children and young women in Scandinavia.

          Last week we reported on the story of how three African immigrants who brutally raped a 14-year-old girl to the point where she wanted to kill herself were given extremely light sentences by a court in Norway, with one receiving community service and avoiding prison altogether.

          WIth the deluge of migrants pouring into Europe, rapes in and around migrant camps in Germany are also soaring, with German police being accused of covering up the scandal so as to not legitimize critics of mass immigration.”

          • MickC

            The point I was somewhat badly making is that the Swedish criminal justice system seems totally politicised, which is unsurprising in such a PC country.

    • vieuxceps2

      Give us some facts then. We could do with somer relief after what we’ve just realised…..

  • David Webb

    Er… Ivar may now be looking for a new job…. The standard practice in Swedish newspapers faced with ethnic crime by Somalis is to place a photo of a blond-haired Swede swirled to make it only a generic white face next to the article. When is Dan Eliasson going to be prosecuted for abetting rape?

  • Mow_the_Grass

    Sweden has had a long love affair with the ME arab/muslim.
    Margot Wallatrom thinks that the palestinians are poor misguided individuals who if sent enough money and hugs will forget about their terror intentions.
    The Swedes can now get to enjoy their arab/muslim heroes – up close and personal.
    Its a good thing.

    • cartimandua

      A bit harsh for the Swedish women and little girls.

      • Mow_the_Grass

        Go read Margot Wallstrom comments with regards palestinian terror – and her excusing of it.
        What’s harsh is the Israeli civilians killed in this recent wave of stabbings/shootings/car rammings – and her and her governments attitude to this.
        That’s harsh in my book.

        • Caviar luvvie

          I agree with both of you.

    • Leftism is a societal cancer

      Typical Jew.

      • Mow_the_Grass

        Not just Jew – but Israeli.
        Suck it up – and enjoy.

      • Copyright101

        Yep!

        What is depressing is the few remaining cuckservatives here at the Speccy take his relentless gloating comments over the destruction of Europe as some kind of proof that jews are on our side. Woefully stupid thinking.

  • Harryagain

    A traditional sport.
    Originated in the muslim world, arrived in Europe, coming to a town near you if we remain in the EUSSR.
    When these people get documentation there’ll be nothing stopping them coming here.
    Merkel can’t wait to get rid of them. After the useful ones have been selected, the rejects will be shunted to us.
    “Mutlicultural Enrichment”
    Read about the real thing in Egypt.
    Called “Taharrush Gamea” (Google it)

    http://www.egyptindependent.com/opinion/sexual-assault-tahrir-what-it-means-and-how-stop-it

    Plenty more on Youtube if you’ve a strong stomach

    • Anthorny

      The race is on. With an “out” vote, how soon could EU immigration once more be controlled? Would it be soon enough to stop the influx of German reject immigrant criminal and terrorist hordes?

      • Harryagain

        Not soon enough.
        There will be a big rush come the fine weather and the prospect of the borders being closed.
        They will be ever more desperate.
        There may even be a big war Iran/Saudi Arabia.

        The invasion is planned,(by ISIS) to overwhelm us.
        If someone turns up at the border with tanks and guns, you can shoot them.
        But women and children?

    • mickey667

      But we’re not in the Shengen? This is irrelevant no?

      • dramocles

        Not irrelevant mickey. Non-EU passport holders can be filtered at our borders sure, but the immigrants/asylum seekers into Germany will be given EU passports in due course and will then have the right (enshrined in law) to come here and settle as they please.

      • Harryagain

        They’ll be as free to come here as Poles etc.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25237742

      • Cyril Sneer

        It’s only irrelevant if you’re gullible and without a clue as to the EU free movement of people and how this can be exploited.

    • A Alan

      This shows it a bit more graphically.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZiA5PHpYTg

      And the response of one of the leading regressive left feminists from the New Statesmen. I think her views might be modified if she ever found herself in such circumstances. Also note comments disabled bit like the early articles in the Guardian.

      http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2016/01/after-cologne-we-cant-let-bigots-steal-feminism

  • Alison Houston

    Europe is heading for a year or two of anarchy. It will either end, as intended with an authoritarian clamp down by various Marxist states, in which liberty will seem like a price worth paying for the protection of the state. Or an equally authoritarian ‘right wing’ opposition will emerge and impose its equally statist, though nationalistic, form of control, probably with the help of the military in some cases. All because the moderate, patriotic, right wing have been labelled racists and their ideas have been held up as examples of fascism.

    • WFB56

      Clear, succinct and cogently argued; probably the best comment to grace these sections this year.

    • James Chilton

      Well said.

    • greggf

      Europe and much of the world is in a Depression – even bigger than the ’30s.
      Interest rates, jobs, callousness, values (in all senses) in most things will worsen – just like it was but in a bigger scale than the ’30s. Fascism will become almost respectable.

    • Verk

      Very well said.

    • voidist

      get a frenchman , italian and a german put them together and you get 2 world wars with
      a third one on the way…all at thier own expense

    • stuartMilan

      agree broadly with what you say, but the “protection of the state” is looking ever more like a chimera: invoked to justify public-sector salaries but absent when actually required to perform the duties asked of it

    • Rip van Wrinkle

      That’s the plan, Alison. Glad someone else gets it.

    • jim

      No such thing as equality.The bigots were right.

      • Itinerant

        Non-sequitur.

        • PapayaSF

          No, he has a good point. It’s the multicultural myth that all cultures and religions are equal in all important aspects. It’s really quite bizarre: feminists and leftists have been complaining for decades about sexism and misogyny and “rape culture,” but somehow are blind to the fact that all those things are much, much worse in Muslim countries. If they were truly concerned about women, they would not want the rampant misogyny of the Muslim world imported into Western countries.

          • Itinerant

            It’s obvious to anyone with two brain cells that diversity and equality cannot co-exist, especially with supremacist and expansionist Islam.

            So either feminists and progressives are unbelievably naive and gullible or they’re complicit- either way the results are the same.
            It’s suicidally stupid.

            (he edited the comment completely btw, originally it was a non-sequitur)

        • jim

          Quite right too.Good to know someone is paying attention.

    • Junis

      If you are a white woman, you’re more likely to be sexually molested by a white guy than anyone else. I don’t know what’s going on in your head. Is you don’t believe me, you can always ask your Australian pals.

      • Cyril Sneer

        And I don’t know whats going on in your head – you say she;s likely to be molested by a white guy, possibly, considering population ratios and the fact she will most likely be in contact with more white men than brown skinned refugees. But where does your comment provide an answer as to why it would be a good idea to invite masses of culturally incompatible men who are disproportionately more likely to assault women than white men?

      • Matt H

        Is that because white guy’s make up most of the population in those countries?

    • http://paulweston101.blogspot.com Paul Weston

      AsKarl Marx stated “I shall stand astride the wreckage a Colossus.”

      I agree the hard-left planned to bring about social unrest in order to achieve totalitarian power, but they mucked up as usual. The rise of the right is now unstoppable. The next ten years will be NOTHING like the last sixty. The Left is finished but they still cannot see it. Just as the Russian Aristo’s continued to party in 1917 even as the Bolsheviks were massing outside their gated driveways.

      • Plunn

        The right is unstoppable ..The next ten years will be NOTHING like the last sixty.

        Hi Paul. Whilst I admire your optimism I do not share it. What makes you so sure? I see three possibilities: death, submission or victory. The latter the most far fetched. If we were going to do something against this onslaught of our culture we need to be doing it now. Right now we are committing cultural suicide on the world stage. Not what we should be doing. Immigration of the third world, emigration of our people and refugees mean the death of our nation, culture, race and heritage. I hope your right. I know the future of our kids rest on that

        • http://paulweston101.blogspot.com Paul Weston

          What has been happening for the last sixty years was wrong and wicked, but it was slow and the leftists took control of the media and education in order to suppress us. But the truth is finally dawning on people. All the Eastern European countries understand we are in a civilisational battle for survival. In Western Europe, France, Holland and Sweden will soon return “far-right” parties to power.

          The Left has been holding back millions of gallons of water with their finger plugged into the dam, but the dam will soon break and they will be washed away. Five years ago there were no cracks in the dam, today there are lots. Within five years it will crumble, within ten years it will be gone and the deluge will sweep away the left.

          I have been waiting a long time for this to start. I wasnt sure it ever would, but there are millions of Angry Europeans now. Once it gets going, it will be huge and impossible to stop. Can you not feel it in the air? Admittedly, it will take time. Changing the course of a continent is like that of steering an oil tanker, it takes time. But it has started now and it probably won’t even take ten years. Perhaps in Britain, yes, but not on the continent.

          And even if I am wrong on this, we still have the armed forces……

          • Plunn

            Can you not feel it in the air?

            Yes I can. I’m sure this sort of thing has been happening in Sweden with a lot less noise but the Germans… You know they are expecting another million this year? Germans won’t go quietly into the night. I agree this is going to get ugly and it will be welcomed by many I expect. A good time to tidy up politics. Hope it goes in our favour

          • Child_of_Thatcher

            Good comment. It would be interesting to see the future, it will probably not be pretty. The best case I can see is the invaders being loaded on ships and dropped off on the African coast. The worst case is the basis for a futuristic horror movie, but one Hollywood would probably never allow to be made.

          • hepworth

            Hollywood is owned by the instigators of our sorry state.

      • rationality

        God I hope you’re right. The best of luck with your new project.

    • Pip

      Whatever happens I hope the Politicians responsible are brought to justice.

  • Thanks Tank

    The mainstream right want cheap workers so back migration while the left want diversity, both want an end to the idea of an nation state and people.

    • vieuxceps2

      Why would the Right want an end to nation states? The left to further international socialism, but the Rihight?

      • Theophrastus

        At least in Sweden, the right and the left are in somewhat agreement on where to go when it comes to questions of culture, values, globalisation etc. It’s mostly a difference of how the economy should be organised. Both embrace globalisation, the end of the nation state, multiculturalism etc.

        • Mow_the_Grass

          Correct.
          The Swedes have got the government they want.

          • Theophrastus

            It’s a bit more complicated though. The leftist coalition that won in the last election had 38% support from the Swedish people if I remember correctly. It’s a complicated situation, where the right (Sweden Democrats excluded) gave the power to the left willingly, since it would otherwise be forced to take power together with the Sweden Democrats (pariah).

          • Mow_the_Grass

            Yes many countries have a government of ‘cohabitation’ – but the general drift is leftist.

        • Picquet

          They’re certainly going to get the ‘benefits’ of an alien culture in their midst. Whether the economy will benefit is very much less clear. It’s their choice. And ours.

      • Birtles

        Your question illustrates the problem with the traditional ‘Left-Right’ model of politics. It might have held in France in 1789, but certainly not now. It is a useful tool for ‘progressives’ because it enables them to handily lump such disparate elements as libertarian capitalists, National Socialists, Tories, fascists, and anyone else they don’t want to or can’t engage with intellectually. A better model might be a division between patriots and globalisers. Men like Soros and Sutherland (billionaires, global bureaucrats, and financiers – Sutherland being a Goldman-Sachs and BP supremo) want the destruction of nation states just as much as any New Left Marxist crack-pot. They are in a de facto alliance. They our the enemy.

      • mickey667

        The Right are just capitalist fanatics. Anything that improves the bottom line (which cheap unlimited supply of imported labour does).

        They lie when they say they don’t want immigration. Look at the figures. Its gone *up* every single year since Cameron came to power.

      • Thanks Tank

        Look at how most of the right acts in Govt. in most of the western world.

        The free market.

        There has never been a Tory PM in decades who has had a problem with migration whatever their words, actions matter more.

        Corporate profit over rules all.

    • Birtles

      Yes – totally agree. See my response to vieuxceps2:

      Your question illustrates the problem with the traditional ‘Left-Right’ model of politics. It might have held in France in 1789, but certainly not now. It is a useful tool for ‘progressives’ because it enables them to handily lump such disparate elements as libertarian capitalists, National Socialists, Tories, fascists, and anyone else they don’t want to or can’t engage with intellectually. A better model might be a division between patriots and globalisers. Men like Soros and Sutherland (billionaires, global bureaucrats, and financiers – Sutherland being a Goldman-Sachs and BP supremo) want the destruction of nation states just as much as any New Left Marxist crack-pot. They are in a de facto alliance. They our the enemy.

      • mickey667

        Patriots and Globalisers? You what? I;m neither of those mate. What on earth does that mean?

        • Birtles

          That’s ok, you choose what you want to call yourself. I don’t like labels either, but the 200 and odd year old categories of ‘Left’ and ‘Right’ are pretty useless. As for what it means, read my post a little more carefully.

    • fordwych

      Can you explain exactly who you mean by “the mainstream right”,who supposedly back immigration to get cheap workers?

      I am on the Right,in the mainstream (I think) as are most of the people I know well,most of us in business in one way or another.

      All of us would happily see immigration into Britain end tomorrow and have no wish to see the end of the idea of Britain ,far less its people.

      The Left are another matter.

      • Thanks Tank

        The Tory Party in Britain, the CDU in Germany, D66 in Netherlands and Sarkozy in France.

        All have very open policies on immigration, they might say different at election time but they are open to it.

    • EHGombrich

      The mainstream right fights for causes won by the left 10 years ago. In 10 years they will tell us that gay marriage is a pillar of conservatism.

  • King Kibbutz

    And next October, the population of Turkey – some 77m – are free to travel within Schengen. This, as a reward for them agreeing to stem the flow of immigrants to Europe.

    Slight flaw in the negotiating skills there?

    • mickey667

      Turkey is very secular though, its slight,y different. At least the main population centres are,

      I’ve seen tranvestites walking down the street in Istanbul unhindered. Compared to the other places people are coming from, it is a different kettle of fish altogether.

      • Birtles

        That might be the case in Istanbul (or Constaniople – can Christendom have it back now?), but in the rest of Turkey? There was an alarming article in yesterday’s Daily Telegraph by a woman who had faced constant abuse, groping etc in Instanbul as a matter of course, every time she went outside, except when she was with her father.

        • anka

          It happened to me – I lived 3 years in Turkey – all the time.

          • Birtles

            The article was, for a British person, quite horrifying, extraordinary even.

          • anka

            Its worse even. I tried to post a long story about my experience, but I was rejected again and again by moderation. I am not even blond (Ukranian women I know, for instance, are always carrying pepper sprays even in Istanbul). It was the sight of a unaccompanied woman on the streets that drive them nuts. After a while, I stayed indoors or going out only with a male on my side.

          • Birtles

            That’s exactly what the columnist in the Telegraph said (I’ve tried to find a link, but can’t). She also said that for both her, and her sister, it has left them with deep feelings of unease in lots of situations.

            You could try posting on Breitbart, their lead article at the moment is very relevant: http://www.breitbart.com/london/

            Or post it as a comment on Facebook – there’s loads of sites. This is my newly formed site: https://www.facebook.com/Identity-bloc-England-451231818399387/?fref=ts

          • anka

            I’ll do that, thanks. More people need to know about that. I think a lot of Western types live a very safe and shielded life (thanks to the white supremacy, of course) and don’t have first hand experiences.

          • Conway

            If nothing changes, they will soon have first hand experiences!

          • Jean de Valette

            Breitbart London, though not perfect, is the only major media hub that tackles these issues honestly – and allows people to have their say.
            It really has been a Godsend to the people (though not to the politicians) of the UK.

            Guido still thinks he’s the rebel – but he looks positively enslaved by Tory HQ when compared to Breitbart. They are leaving him in their dust.

          • EHGombrich

            Thank God for Breitbart

      • LittleRedRidingHood

        People will travel from the poor areas of Turkey that are shyteholes. More uneducated, unskilled mysogonists to flood Europe.

        • anka

          Totally agree. Not even Istanbul is now being destroyed under Erdogan islamisation. My Istanbul secular (some anarchists, some communists) bohemian friends are desperate because Erdogan flooded Istanbul with poor and very religious people form Anatolia and if some years you couldn’t see women all covered, not are more and more.

      • Arthur Ascii

        It has a porous border with Syria.
        It’s bombing the Kurds despite the fact that the Kurds are pushing back Isil in Syria.
        It contains those with strong sympathies to the Islamists’ cause.

        • Mow_the_Grass

          Caliph Erdogan and his sons – very busy with the sale of IS oil.

      • King Kibbutz

        Same old complacency and wishful thinking. The NYE animals looked to be on a bit of a secular night out.
        And Europe’s future is to be gambled on your evidence of watching transvestites.

      • anka

        Not under Erdogan. Have
        you been to Anatolia? Samsun region, where the record levels of honor
        crimes are? Or Trabzon where Mustang, the powerful Golden Globe
        winner takes place. It’s not different. Trans are better tolerated
        then lesbs for instance, even in Istanbul. My gay friend was
        threaten with death in a Istanbul bar for “showing off”. We
        run. I’ve been harresed in Bursa and Kars and even Istanbul. Check
        out the article on Telegraph about some ladies experience in
        Ankara-Muslim men considered us to be woores.

        • anka

          Disqus did not allowed me to post the link.

          • Malcolm Stevas

            Just seen your own reference to that piece by Jessica McCallin. I had the same Disqus experience, when I suspect it was that “who*es” word which triggered the censor-bots. I tried again this morning, using an automated link-shrinking system to suppress the naughty word – and my post was again deleted. I suspect because Disqus and/or the Speccie mods automatically delete many such links as potential spam. Or maybe they just don’t like the message.

          • Maureen Fisher

            I’ll Google it and read. Internet now makes pc censorship impossible – modbots please note.

      • William Brown

        Not recently, you haven’t!!

      • Malcolm Stevas

        I advise you to read an interesting (if shocking) piece in Tuesday’s Telegraph, “Comment” section, by Jessica McCallin. It describes her experiences as a teenager in Ankara (her father worked there for a couple of years) when she and her younger sisters were subjected constantly to vile harrassment by Turkish males.

      • Oliver

        Yes a large swathe of the Turkish population are secular, tolerant and hold Kamal Ataturk and beer more dear than Muhammad and the Koran. Although rural Turkey has a powerful conservative and Islamist leaning constituency. Hence the election of Erdogan.

        • mickey667

          The election of erdogan is slightly more complicated, but i hear what you;re saying.

          However, visa free travel will be taken up most likely by those westernised Turks in the Western part of Turkey.

          There is no emigration *from* Turkey, unlike all the other countries (mainly eritrea, afghanistan, somali, african west coast and syria) more people emigrate too Turkey.

          There could be an argument that this would change if made easier, however that doesn’t seem that likely. It has a boom economy and high standards of living.

          • Oliver

            My experience of the Turkish people has been almost wholly positive and secular, to the point that I consider some of them valued drinking buddies. So yes, I agree. The idea that Turks are some kind of regressive Middle Eastern, Islamist horde is wrong in my experience

  • Arthur Ascii

    The stubborn self righteousness of those who cry xenophobia! whenever someone points out that men from backward, misogynist cultures assault and rape more often, and in packs, makes me want to puke.

    The distress and pain this is causing will take years to heal, if it ever does.

    Watching the victims being blamed or accused of racism simply for identifying their attackers simply rubs salt into their wounds.

    • MrKaplan

      I really can’t comprehend how it can possibly be racist/xenophobic to simply point out the facts… If an Asian man rapes you you’ve been raped by an Asian man. There’s no getting away from that. It’s a fact. How is it racist?! Covering these things up is much more likely to play into the hands of the right wingers as sensible liberals are pushed towards the right in order to get a sensible discussion on these issues. If nobody else is going to discuss it what can people do?

      • moraywatson

        If you’ve been raped by a muslim man, why call him an “Asian”?

        • MrKaplan

          Good point. I think it’s the media’s fault. They’ve not really used the “M” word either…

  • thetrashheap

    Its too late,

    The time to act was when 10’s of thousands marched for an authors death in UK in the 80’s. THe time to act was when Sweden identified in 1990’s that people from that part of the world were 23 times more likely to rape.

    The demographic time bomb is set, the horrible measures required to fix this mess won’t happen until the conflict starts. That’s the truth. In 1930’s there was nothing that could be done to avoid war with Germany. THere is nothing we can do now.

    We are on the road of good intentions and things are going to continue to heat up till we reach our destination.

    • ADW

      “In 1930’s there was nothing that could be done to avoid war with Germany.”

      True, and the lesson is don’t wait till you can wait no more. In 1935/6, as all German generals conceded, the Allies could have decisively intervened in Germany, given the state of the German rearmament. By 1939 Germany was very much stronger than it had been in 1935/6, but even then an attack on their rear whilst they were in Poland would have caused them serious difficulties. Instead the allies sat on their haunches and waited for the Germans to come from them, which sure enough they did in spring 1940. By then it was far too late.

      In 1968 we were warned of disaster. We could have acted decisively then, far fewer people’s lives would have been disrupted and by now issues with different cultures would have been long forgotten. Low level immigration coupled with an assimilationist approach would have caused no problems. Instead, we opted for mass immigration and multiculturalism. And now we are paying the price.

      • Birtles

        1968 was a bl**dy disaster – ridiculous, drug-addled, self-obsessed, spoilt, middle-class students and their lecherous, misogynist university lecturers and tutors. Down with May 1968!!!

        • Malcolm Stevas

          I think he was referring to Enoch Powell’s landmark speech in spring of that year – derided as “racist” and alarmist, of course, by bien pensant opinion, then & now. Cameron and his cohort are just as guilty as the Left: they would wet themselves with fear at being thought to be remotely supportive of Powell, in actuality a decent, very able man of high principle – an intellectual giant compared with the present Tory front bench.

          • Birtles

            Absolutely! But I was also making the other point about 1968 – both as the year and the New Left idea. That has been far, far more effective, horribly so.

      • nancoise

        ‘We’ didn’t opt for mass immigration. Some of us very much protested mass immigration because of the problems we were seeing. We were told to shut up in no uncertain terms because we were ‘racist’. Turns out the problems described were not ‘racism’ but ‘truthful’.

    • Katabasis

      Agreed TTH.

      Swathes of Europe are now locked in for civil war or sectarian strife.

      What terrorism doesn’t spark earlier is guaranteed later by demographic destiny.

    • Child_of_Thatcher

      Yes, something like ” The Turner Diaries”

  • Zalacain

    Hiding information is always bad. The governments of Sweden, Germany, UK, wherever, should always publish full information on all events. What exactly happened, the numbers involved, ethnicity of perpetrators, victims and so on. Once the people (the voters) have all the information, then they can make up their mind as to what they want to do about it. This is called democracy.
    The opposite, keeping information away from people, because they may make the wrong choices, is called totalitarianism.

    • Pip

      They cannot publish the truth for fear that they would all be jailed or shot for treason, simple as that.

  • Phyllyp Sparowe

    If you view immigration like recruitment into a company, then stats on economic and criminal performance are vital to ensure you keep your recruitment policy optimum, letting in the best people for what is needed.

    Not to do so would suggest a slightly arrogant view that all new citizens will be immediately endowed with Western values or that their own culture is equal in virtue. Neither seem to be correct and dangerous ideas and beliefs get imported.

  • James Chilton

    The Western world is in a deeper cultural self inflicted crisis than even the most ardent pessimist could imagine.

    • johnb1945

      It’s not that bad yet, but it could go there.

      Sweden is sailing close.

  • LittleRedRidingHood

    “The trouble was that they were trying to deal with a problem but would not speak its name. As Peter Ågren, police chief in central Stockholm, put it: ‘Sometimes we do not dare to say how things really are because we believe it will play into the hands of the Sweden Democrats.’ ”

    Let me help you. Muslim boys and men of multiple ethinicities and nationalities commit these crimes on an industrial scale across the whole world where there are significant concentrations of muslims.

    It’s not hard to say. It’s factually correct and by identifying them this way they can be dealt with , with prejudice.

    • Zalacain

      Islamic rape “the crime that dare not speak its name…”

  • vieuxceps2

    It’s not just sexual attacks and attitudes of muslims that have been hidden from us. The number of them in jail is disproporttionate and the unemployment rate is 50%,benefits no doubt in accordance.They also can claim for more than one wife ( the crime of bigamy for the rest of us) wwhile their children crowd into schools leaving no room for our kids.Add on the distinctive clothing for women (and men) , the appalling noise of the muezzin and the insistence on special diets and teaching subjects,coupled with the destruction of traditional holidays and customs (” to avoid offence”) and you have a nation within a nation.

    • fundamentallyflawed

      The shadow of colonial guilt is a driver of lefty hatred of Britain. By allowing large amounts of culturally incompatible immigrants to come into the country they get a perverse sense of “justice” even as we start to drown in political correct madness.
      AS you rightly state – Special diets (designed to help with its own self perpetuation), special considerations for holidays, a framing of educational and social narratives in schools.

    • johnb1945

      The number of British Muslims in jail is less disproportionate than in some countries.

      In Britain about 14% of inmates are Muslim, v. about 5% of the population.

      In France the figure is estimated at 70% of the population v. about 7% of the population.

    • Ned Costello

      I think you’ll find that when the British ruled India they were much more tolerant of their Indian subjects religion and customs than you’re giving them credit for. Yes, they stamped out certain “cultural” practices, like Sutee (widow-burning) and the cult of the Thuggees for example, and imposed such things as a police force, independent judiciary, Common Law, a civil service, modern schools and the railways just to name a few. In short, the British introduced India to the modern world . They didn’t establish a “nation within a nation”, they established a ruling-class of about 100,000 administrators, officials and soldiers which ran, rather well as it happens, a sub-contininent of 300 million people.

      • Vikas Sehrawat

        Indian here, Britishers were driven by self interest primarily like any nation would be, so Colonialism was like any other invasion before in India. It had its good parts and its bad parts. Should be studied as that and move on. It has become a common habit among the developing world to blame all its problems on the west, Even if we want to overcome these stupid notions. these narratives are forced down our throats by Guilt ridden leftist loonies of the west.

        Most of us here would give an arm and a leg to make a good life in the west but see these 1st and 2nd generation immigrants huddled up with the marxist nuts in gigantic forts of victimhood all over the west.

        Save your countries, i know the culture you are importing.I see it everyday, people high on religion 24/7,minimum respect for women, produce 5 babies in 10 years.

        Some of these ‘refugees’ will turn out to be academically brilliant and extremely secular folk. But majority contain a mindset that are set in dark ages. Controlled immigration is the way forward in a globalized world, take the crème de la crème and protect your nations for the next generation.

        • Sue Smith

          Thoroughly agree with these intelligent comments!! SELECT your migrants. We took Sicilians into Australia and got the scourge of the Mafia. So did the Americans. And we got Asian Triad gangs with the Chinese and Vietnamese. That’s just dumb social policy.

          Into that mix throw political correctness, cultural marxism and a very lax judicial system and – viola!! – guess what you get!!!

          Be VERY VERY careful what you wish for.

      • Arthur Ascii

        With the cooperation of a good many Indians who were content to help them out.

      • vieuxceps2

        I have always viewed British India in the way that you describe.Kipling ensured that. No, what I meant was that the social gulf between natives and British was unbridgeable,perhaps on both sides.Much the same as we now have in England with muslims,despite the media’s frantic atempts to show otherwise.

  • Maureen Fisher

    You expect the State to cover up but not journalists. Much of social media is abysmal but large scale cover ups just aren’t possible anymore due to Twitter and Facebook as the BBC and Guardian are discovering. “Comments is Free but facts are sacred.” Anyone remember that at Guardian Towers?

    • 732

      I’ve just received an e-mail from the Guardian asking me to give them money to “help keep the Guardian independent, which gives us the freedom to produce FEARLESS, award-winning journalism” (my capitals)

      • Zalacain

        Well, at least they have a sense of humour…

      • Maureen Fisher

        FEARFUL more like!

      • Ivan Ewan

        “gives us the freedom to produce inept, cowardly demagoguery” probably didn’t look all that persuasive.

        • Sue Smith

          But it is a way in which the Left perceives it can ‘stick it to the man’ – in lieu of all the ‘unfairness’ they themselves have experienced in ‘the system’. Time to give the ‘establishment’ white guys a taste of their own medicine; I’d lay bets this is behind much of the Left’s current antics. Self defeating; sure. Unintelligent; certainly. Destined for failure? You decide.

      • Sue Smith

        Remember, The Guardian is pitched at a reading age of about 11. Why do you think that is? Cradle to grave marketing is why.

        • Conway

          As high as that? I’m impressed 🙂

    • Sue Smith

      Brilliant comments!!

  • johnb1945

    Sweden is showcasing the dark heart of liberalism.

    The patronising parochialism of the liberal elite is staggering. They earnestly believe they know best and those who disagree should be suppressed by a mix of stifling social convention, soft censorship and just enough legality to make free speech difficult without making it impossible.

    This is what really plays into the hands of Sweden Democrats – the lack of free speech.

    To the liberal Swedish ideologue, migrants who live out unpleasant cultural norms on Swedish streets and those critical of them for doing so are peas from the same pod – the uneducated, spiritually and materially poor and unenlightened. Both will simply fall into line when the obvious path to peaceful and prosperous co-existence becomes clear to them.

    Well, an alarmingly large number of Swedes from all walks of life now harbour serious resentment against immigrants and refugees, yet it remains practically impossible to question either immigration, the cultures immigrants import or the fact that they are encouraged to maintain these cultures in parallel societies without being shouted down.

    Chickens will come home to roost unless you, Sweden, let people speak and say what they think, and accept that no matter how coarse the views they express may be, they are held for reasons.

    I don’t get it – the Danes don’t have any problem saying whatever they want.

    • Marvin

      I agree, the extreme liberal left suffer with a myopia of the understanding of the planet’s diverse human races. They see everyone like they see their grand mothers, frail, helpless and in need of care, but are so far from the truth until the present situation or worse wake them up from their utopian dream.

      • Leon Wolfeson

        So you blame the left for your issues, as you hate on those under you, and demand they be victimised, no utotpian “helping others”…

        • Marvin

          Why would one want to help a new species of semi human ignorant fools who are influenced by suicidal retarded fools who have an extreme affinity with the type of people who cut the heads of innocent aid workers (SLOWLY) for their sick beliefs which you seem to enjoy.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Ah, you think – like eugenicists though history – that those with other views are not really Human.

            As you claim those you’re after are “sucidal”. As you blame others for your far right… as you claim not hating people and spewing eugenics is “sick”.

          • Marvin

            A bit of logic may make you realise that if a species do not progress in culture and intelligence because they still obsessively cling on to ignorant dogma for 700 hundred years and believe that the earth is flat, and have absolutely no knowledge about the beautiful endless Universe our planet resides in, then yes, they appear to lack the basic genetic make up of a human being.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Your eugenics rambling about species goes on, and I don’t believe you’re 700 years old, as you show your fanatical views, in your hate of the Universe…

    • Sue Smith

      They are cowed by the usual attacks from lefties of political correctness. These people really are the new stormtroopers of Thought and we need to be calling this out, loudly and often.

      • johnb1945

        It’s hard in Sweden. It’s a country I know well, having lived there.

        As a nation they are heavily invested in social welfare, multiculturalism, minority rights etc. It’s tough for them to admit that it has problems because they’ve pushed themselves as a model society and moral benchmark to the entire world.

        I perceive the Swedes as a people of two halves. The metropolitan elite are dutifully liberal albeit with grumbles about taxation, workplace absenteeism and quiet jokes about feminism, but rural and provincial Swedes are much rougher, more direct and pragmatic people.

        They won’t put up with this for long, and they’ll bring down the system if they are not listened to.

  • Patrick

    its been happening in Britain for 20-30 years (according to ex-police) and even after Rotherham it still goes on now. How many girls or women affected we will never know, and the chance of even a small amount of the men responsible being arrested is non-existent. 1000-2000 girls in a small town of 100000 + (girls from 11-16 years old must only make up 15-20 thousand of the town, minus muslim girls) is the number per population of rapes found in a war zone.

    • Marvin

      That is the power of Islam that has been encouraged and invited into such a powerful position through numbers allowed to come in and breeding and being paid to.

      • Leon Wolfeson

        So you hate on the poor, using Islam as an excuse.

        • Marvin

          They go hand in hand. It must be beyond your intelligence to see that being poor, uneducated, and perverted by ignorant dogma to detest anyone that is different but would flee to the infidels for safety and benefits which they cannot get in their own lands from their own people, set halve the planet ablaze because of a mis-interpretation in a flawed and fictional belief in a book?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes yes, you hate the British poor, in your excuses. As you want far more povery, less education and and want to make the poor flee Britain to escape you. Hmm!

            The one trying for your Fire is you, and book? No, your actions are no book. What does any book, in your hate of all poor people, using Islam as an excuse…

          • Marvin

            Al I am saying is “Beggars must not be choosers” These are ungrateful ill read and feckless people who are not compatible with the modern world, and you may soon find out exactly what this means.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Ah, more good old fashioned poor hate, equating being poor with loads of abuse, and claiming the poor are “not compatible” with your plans.

            As you threaten me.

          • Marvin

            No need for me to threaten people who are on the path to mass suicide. All because of pure ignorance and brain myopia.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you ignore your threats, as you go after Jews…right.

          • Marvin

            Where did you get that from? You read but you just cannot digest and understand what you read. I love Jews, they are clever hard grafters who look after their own and unlike the other lot, they have evolved and progressed way passed the monkey era.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes yes, “U NO DIGEST AND UNDERSTAND”, Jew, as you use PC stereotyping.

            You’re the “other lot”, the Barbartian… as you spout off eugenics…

        • Marvin

          I imply to the infidel hating scavengers who flee for safety to the very people and culture they detest. That includes you too. UNLESS.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, I’m sure you are, thanks, scavenger.
            I’m not like you, I’m British.

          • Marvin

            So are the infidel hating Moslems in Britain, they claim to be British, but at least you are not English, can never be. “Dogs born in stables” and all. Know what I mean Harry?

          • Leon Wolfeson

            So you talk to yourself, and in your Jewhate scream at me, and incidentally Muslims, right.

            I’m British, I’m alive, cry harder.

  • Muttley

    “Another Aftonbladet article said that reporting on the Cologne attacks was bowing to right-wing extremism. Over the last week, we have been told over and over that the real issue is men, not any particular culture — that Swedish men are no better.”

    Sweden isn’t alone in this approach. The Guardian newspaper has been peppered with articles promoting similar ideas. Not once has anyone admitted where the problem really lies – with our liberale elite.

    Of course, they are in a very bad place. When it becomes apparent that something they have been falsely promoting as a social good for years is if fact a social evil, they have nowhere to hide but up their own jacksies.

    • Just fed up

      PC now borders on a mental illness. I am a mental health professional and believe me we have been watching the progress of the march of PC (Cultural Marxism) for many years. The irrationality it produces is truly fascinating. But of course how it ends is also truly tragic and will be for many tens of millions.

      • Oliver

        The way the reaction to mass sexual assault, a beheading, suicide bombing or mass shooting almost always results in condemnation to the reaction rather than the acts of extreme violence themselves is truly fascinating and terrifying.

        What is truly amazing is how a couple of decades of left wing ideology in our education systems has led people to put altruism for outsiders and anti racism above and beyond self preservation on both a personal and societal level.

        It just goes to show how powerful the left wing ideas of equality, diversity, social justice and identity politics truly are.

        This must be the first time in history that multiple acts of extreme violence have been carried out by one group against another where great swathes of the population either refuse to accept the facts, blame themselves, sympathise with their attackers and or wish to welcome as many more members of the tribe who attacked them as possible.

        The fact that it took so long for the relatively tame (albeit bigoted) reaction of groups like the EDL to arise is quite miraculous.

        In almost every other nation on earth their sense of self preservation and solidarity would have over ridden their altruism when the first bombs went off in the early 2000s. It is to our credit that it took over 10 years for a sporadic bunch of right wingers and football hooligans to kick over some bins and say rude things about Islam in response.

        If we want to ensure that it doesn’t get any worse this suicidal altruism and self flagellation has to go.

        • Grimelda

          It’s fascinating that after every terrorist attack or other shocking event perpetrated by Muslims, dozens of articles are written decrying Islamophobia and excoriating us non-Muslims for being violent bigots. I remember shortly after the attacks in Paris, the Guardian ran a piece from a Muslim woman about how afraid she is of the impending backlash, even though she acknowledged that she’d never been physically assaulted and only once or twice had someone said mean things to her on the bus.

          • Sue Smith

            “Said mean things to her on a bus”. You’re really building them strong and resilient over there in the UK. Not.

          • Conway

            People looked at her as well. Truly terrifying!

      • Muttley

        It is a sickness. It should have a name. Not least since those very people try to ascribe mental illness -this “phobia” or that “phobia” – to those who oppose their irrational beliefs.

        • MikeF

          Yes – perhaps we should invent a ‘phobia’ to describe them. What about ‘verifophobia’ i.e. a fear of the truth.

          • Ian Walker

            Yuck, mixing Latin and Greek? Try ‘aletheiaphobia’ instead

          • mumble

            A phobia is an irrational fear. This fear is rational, so a different word is needed.

      • Germainecousin

        I suspect there is great truth in what you say. Therefore my conclusion is that the politically correct notions we have developed have come from group think rather than well thought out reasoning. The analogy is like that found in the gospel story, about wheat growing on stony ground, sprouting and dying quickly in the face of adversity as against the wheat planted in healthy fertile soil which prospers. Unless a population truly understands the principles upon which their society is founded, they are prime candidates for following who ever shouts loudest and threatens more.

    • Sue Smith

      “Elite”? Don’t make me laugh!

    • Frank

      Britain is very good at a different kind of moral relativism, just look at the scandal of Rotherham and the police forces who won’t investigate, just look at our defective CPS who won’t prosecute certain kinds of individuals, just look at our bent MPs and corrupt Lords/Ladies, just look at our defective Serious Fraud Office that doesn’t want to prosecute white collar / financial institution fraud, just look at the toothless FCA, just look at the betrayed “military covenant”, etc, etc.

      • Ozfan

        Yeah, I heard on radio that number of armed police is being increased but they are worried that will be prosecuted if they actually shoot anyone. Same as soldiers being investigated for actually being in a war.

    • Ozfan

      The 5 females on BBC Radio 4 women’s hour and the WEP party leader on C4 News also agreed the main issue is men in general, not any relation to culture or religious background.

      Nonsense (and insulting). It is clear that western feminists are too blinkered and narrow minded to understand what is going on now and will increase if not confronted.

      I’d like for all of them to live in an Islamic country for a year to see how the real world is and how precious the freedoms we have in the west are.

      • Muttley

        That’s incredibly insulting. Imagine if you suggested the women involved were the problem. You’d be up on a discrimination charge – unless, of course, you were a female Guardian journalist, who can blame the German women with impunity.

        • Ozfan

          Ha yes, you are referring to that “journalist” who felt those German women were to blame for being assaulted because they had expensive iPhones. Shameful article that was, but also worries me that so many of these wimmin are looking the wrong way.

      • MikeF

        They understand perfectly what is happening. They just cannot admit why.

      • Earl Wyatt

        Ozfan they would simply see the horrors of life in that Islamic “country” and then project it back onto the men of their own country. Every man who ever looked in their direction would have been guilty of “gaze rape” and thus on the same level as an actual rapist in their eyes. Such is the sick nature of these hard left WLBs.The sooner they get the same treatment that was meted out to the French collaborators after WWII the better.

    • mumble

      In a Canadian province (Ontario?) it is now standard for activists to go into the fourth(?) grade classroom and tell the boys that that their penis is the cause of the world’s problems.

      Fortunately, boys are not sensitive, so no possible trauma can result.

      • Quest for Liberty

        Trudeau and his pack of ‘progressives’ are big trouble – bringing the ridiculous from what was once the fringe-left into materialisation.

    • Pip

      Then a time of atonement will surely follow.

  • John Wilson

    “The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. He forgot social consequences, this genie is well and truly out of the box.

    – Joseph Goebbel’s.

    • Sue Smith

      No need for the apostrophe in his name!!

      • kevinlynch1005

        Maybe he’s intentionally getting the “Narzi’s” name wrong….to show Churchillian levels of contempt!

  • Augustus

    Whether it’s the police or the media, because of decades of left-wing propaganda and indoctrination these cover ups have infiltrated the subconscious. Sweden is now a lost cause, and that’s a fact.

    • Sue Smith

      Distressingly I have to agree with this. I was there last year and I spoke to 2 professional women on a train between Gotenburg and Varberg and they said much the same thing as that being expressed here.

      When you don’t value your culture you willingly give it away – no strings attached – to any old group.

      The Swedish people needed to be smarter. They lose now.

      • Tom Cullem

        Spot on. What a staggering loss and if the rest of Europe doesn’t take note the cancer will spread. At least Denmark and Norway seems to be trying to hold the line. I wouldn’t be surprised to see “white flight” begin as ethnic Swedes give up on their native country and start heading for the neighbouring Scandinavian countries where it hasn’t gotten that bad – yet.

        • Sue Smith

          And ‘white flight’ has been underway in Brussels for some years now. My husband and I saw many ‘refugees’ in March last year in Kirkenes – at the very top of Norway in the Arctic Circle!!!

          • Tom Cullem

            It is saddening to hear that, people chased from their own cultures. But perhaps when the waves become more significant, as is happening with French Jews (and who could blame them?!), the gain will be to the countries they are fleeing to, increasing the ethnic European populations there – call it the Law of Unintended Consequences at work. One can only wonder what Sweden will be like in ten years at this rate . . .

        • Conway

          We may have to rely on the Hungarians to hold the line.

      • Augustus

        Can one perhaps hope that a change of leadership will rise up and reverse this terrible combination of foolishness and political stupidity by redefining the standards and values which undoubtedly truly matter to Swedes?

        • Sue Smith

          I don’t think they (along with most of Europe) have the first idea about what ‘values…..truly matter to Swedes’. If they did they wouldn’t be giving it all away. It’s not quite 5 years since Brevick murdered all those people in Oslo because of Norwegian immigration policy, so this issue isn’t new.

          Over time Swedish culture will change irrevocably and we will all say that we saw it coming.

          • Grimelda

            I’m sure they will find a way to blame white Swedish men for it.

  • BarryWoods

    if the ‘culture’ that you wish to accommodate includes mass group sexual harassment of women and young girls… why would you want to accommodate it at all..

    • Conway

      Particularly when that is allied to their known attitude to hom0s3xuals.

  • Liberanos

    I’m a little surprised the article itself hasn’t been removed by the Spectator moderators. They normally remove anything less that pukingly obeisant to islamic vileness.

    • kevinlynch1005

      Really? Surely you exaggerate? Specific examples? I’m genuinely curious…and would be surprised if what you say is correct.

      • Liberanos

        The last was eight days ago. I had the temerity to suggest that wearing the uniform of subjugation was surely against the sex-equality act. Also, any mention of the many violent commands against infidels in the koran runs risk of removal. I occasionally suggest that the problem with the Spectator censors is that they have difficulty in reading through a burka.

    • King Zog

      Er, what? You’re aware of a certain Mr Rod Liddle, are you?

      • Liberanos

        Well, he certainly disclaims responsibility for removals.

        • King Zog

          Well. the Spectator is a publication, after all, with editors (not ‘moderators’). They are free to publish or not publish (or even withdraw) whatever they like. But the specific accusation was that this magazine somehow has a pro-immigration agenda. That’s certainly not the impression I get.

          • Liberanos

            Absolutely. Freedom to publish is paramount. And they’re not particularly pro-immigration as far as I can tell. Just very nervous of cogent comments from readers criticising islam.

    • davidshort10

      No, they don’t. The Speccie allows all opinion, even against its own management. Possibly they don’t employ moderators…

      • Liberanos

        I’m sure you’re right!

  • boultonzz .

    For the love of God, please stop saying “we accommodate their culture”. This is flawed you idiots. Either they accept our customs/culture or whatever term you so wish to describe it, or you and they can p**s off. I don’t want anyone in my country who doesn’t abide by the same rules/customs/culture as me.

    • Tom Cullem

      Really, you couldn’t make it up. “We accommodate their culture by sacrificing our own, because the safety and progress of women is far less important than accommodating the illiberal, misogynist, homophobic, medieval, violent culture of our new arrivals.”

      Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

  • amicus

    If I were a Swede I know which party I’d vote for.

    • Tom Cullem

      Second that. I would do the same. The failure of the government to respond to these glaring issues in my view has left no other options.

  • Just fed up

    “The cure for political correctness is suffering, a lot of suffering.” From me, a mental health professional.

    • Grimelda

      The Swedes will definitely suffer. Especially the women.

  • Oliver

    I recently spoke to an old friend of mine who is a 68 year old hippy from Gotland and he told me that

    “I hate Nazis but the sheer amount of hostile young refugees pitching up in Sweden has got everyone scared, I am scared”

    • Cobbett

      68 and he remembers the Nazis?

      • davidshort10

        I am younger than he but I know of the Nazis. They were in charge of Germany I seem to recall and as a result we went to war with that country.

      • Brandon

        My grandma is 77 and was like 7 y/o when WW2 happened. She doesn’t remember a damn thing about it.

      • Oliver

        In Sweden they call the Sweden Democrats Nazis. Absurd I know.

        As far as I know the Sweden Democrats are a right of centre, anti immigration party with some libertarian social and economic policies. Not unlike UKIP in the UK.

        But in Sweden they are incredibly left wing and have been for a bloody long time, plus my friend is a hippie who came of age in the 60s and has spent much of his life in the Sub Continent. I met smoking hashish in the Himalayas. He is practically a Hindu, so for him and many other Swedes; when they say Nazis, they mean the anti immigration Sweden Democrats.

        • Cobbett

          Sweden has had it. Too bad really, gorgeous birds.

      • ShoeEventHorizon

        “na zis” is jewish code for all white Europeans.

        One day perhaps too late for some here, you may just begin to realise that as your land and women are taken over by 3rd world hostile invaders.

        • Cobbett

          Europeans who stick up for themselves. It can’t go on as it is without something giving.

  • GoEK

    As a Swede I can say that the migration crisis is on everyones minds these days, you cannot go to any social gatherings these days without it being the main topic and it is becoming so infected that it is even starting to cause serious conflicts within families. The Swedish people have fast gone from annoyed to worried to afraid and the establishment only keeps on shouting “racist” to everyone who dares to speak up. The Swedish press is acting like old German storm troopers, chasing down individuals to disgrace them publically. I never thought I’d say this but Sweden is a very weak democracy, the East German heritage from the 70’s left wing movement is polluting almost every public institution here, one begins to wonder when the Brain Drain of the old DDR will start happeing here too.

    • Augustus

      Even Wallstrom’s criticism of the Saudi legal system, which was so praised by The Spectator recently, ended up grovelling to the Saudis, with King Carl, whose constitutional role is supposed to be solely ceremonial, publicly expressing concern about the deteriorating ties between his country and Saudi Arabia, and then sending a conciliatory letter to Saudi King Salman. And then there was the Foreign Minister’s remarks linking the Paris terrorist attacks to Palestinians ‘despair’. What a shambles!

      • GoEK

        During the recent Paris attacks, actually as young people were dying on the streets of Paris, our Vice Prime Minister tweeted:

        “The very serious events in Paris right now may make it difficult for the Climat Meeting and its participating 100 heads of state”.

        Maybe we deserve to fail as a state…

        • Frank

          Au poteau!

    • Ozfan

      Hmm, occurs to me that Germany doesn’t exactly have a long history of stability. Not compared to Sweden. The millions of immigrants invited by Merkel are very likely to lead to big trouble and disintegration there. Does lean me towards leaving the EU before the big trouble kicks-off.

    • mumble

      But where will these brain-drain Swedes go?

      • GoEK

        Ethnic Swedes are very respected as a work force over the developed world so I doubt the educated and otherwise successful population here will have much problems finding a new home.

        • mumble

          Where that doesn’t have Muslim immigrants, I should have made clear.

  • Pang PangSWE

    Sure enough, there are criminal swedes, no doubt about it.
    But when leftists/feminists claim that there is no difference between ethnic swedes (/people born and grown i Sweden) and the taliban – I get a bit steamed, especially since many swedes went to fight the taliban and have experienced the difference.

    Sweden is in the top of the UN list of gender/ethnic equality, the refugees mostly come from nations in the bottom of the same list – and regular swedish men are blamed.

    I don’t understand the paradox that leftist/feminist women want to import men from women-hating cultures, it is the women that will take the most damage from this…so how are they thinking, exactly?

    Who will pay for all the wellfare when the last working swede has left the country?

  • Tom Cullem

    Shame is too weak a word for what Sweden and Germany have done. This is what happens when ideology trumps reality. Sweden is a ruined country, and it was ruined by its immigration policies of the last 25 years – it has sacrificed its integrity, its democratic foundations, and its commitment to women’s rights to one overarching ideological tenet that refuses to acknowledge any flaws, failures, or problems. I am sorry to say this, too, but ethnic and native Swedes have allowed this to happen. Their refusal to demonstrate en masse and vote en masse against the government that has done this to their once beautiful, coherent, peaceful, progressive, clean country is on them. They will get no help from the top down unless they vote in the Sweden Democrats. It’s an unfortunate choice, but the passivity of Swedes up to know is complicit in the dilemma they now find themselves in.

    • GoEK

      “I am sorry to say this, too, but ethnic and native Swedes have allowed this to happen”
      You are right about that. I think the root cause is that “we”, in good Socialist tradition, have been for many generations indoctrinated that the State is allmighty. That is why I call my country a “weak democracy”, our people is simply not used to take risks and fight for our rights anymore, we take it all for granted.

  • Uusikaupunki

    It probably seems fanciful, but events in Cologne and elsewhere remind me more and more of the Eloi and Morlocks in H.G. Wells “The Time Machine”….

    • Tom M

      No it isn’t. I’ve made that comaprison too.

    • Copyright101

      If he’d named them Shylocks then the message would have been even more powerful.

  • Vinnie

    lets stop beating around the bush. It’s not a new problem is it? And I’m not even referring to Rotherham. When I was growing up in the early to mid 90s before it was gentrified, Brick Lane was horrible if you were white. There were many street walkers down Brick Lane at the time and the local demographic would harass the women all the time.

    Then I move to Canada in a mostly white city and there is one bar where in the downtown where it is mostly brown men go to prey on younger white girls. It happens in parts of Cornwall as my sister has told me. Again, same demographic.

    But there will not be any Guardian articles or opinion pieces on this it’s just widely ‘understood’

    • Tom Cullem

      And then they are shocked, shocked! when those people affected start voting rightward

  • Fenrir007

    These coverups are increasingly common in the leftist-infected media. Take a look at the Salon, for instance. They published this article believing the suspect to be a white, standard male:

    https://archive.is/V8OAN

    But once it was found that the suspect was actually a muslim, they scrapped the article stealthly and pretended it was never published. Clearly shows they are not exactly interested in impartially informing the public, but only about pushing an agenda.

    • GoEK

      What I cannot understand is why the European left is so protective about muslims? Here in Sweden there is continous reporting about the horrible rape attacks in India but why isn’t it “racist” to call Indian males “rapists” as a group and not muslims?

      • Ian Walker

        Because they vote for left-wing parties, at least until there are enough of them to form their own Sharia-promoting ones.

        • GoEK

          That has been my thinking as well, i.e. that the European left is using mass imigration to destabilize our democracies to be able to do their long sought-after socialist revolution but as you say, they will be sorely mistaken if it happens.

    • sarahsmith232

      one of my pet peeves. this happens here all the time. we’ve had so many e.g’s of this, a big song and dance until they realise it was one of their own trying to start a race war. NEVER EVER is it reported on. same thing, the MSM go after the story hammer and tong, then start frantically rowing backwards when it’s they that are the arsonist. makes me so f. . . ahem, damn angry.

  • Paul

    One of the problems of political correctness is that it all policy and decision making is seen through a political prism. Basic criminal law is now subject to this same base and corrupting ideology.

    • GoEK

      Yes, and the horrible situation is made even worse when our journalists are more than eager to undermine the criminal law system by hunting individuals in the police force and justice system.

  • Frank

    I could make a joke about the Stockholm Syndrome, but it seems in poor taste!

  • MikeH

    However much one participates in and enjoys life’s little pleasant distractions, the cold, harsh truth is never too far away. The narrative of our country and wider continent is being dictated by barbarous others.

    Far worse, our establishment and media are vehemently indulging themselves in the suicidal principles of Cultural Marxism. We are rapidly hurtling towards the point of no return.

    This is recommended, albeit rather depressing viewing: http://tinyurl.com/cultmarx

    • Ooh!MePurse!

      An excellent recommendation Mike, thank you. Answers many questions.

  • shaunantijihad

    After reading the headline I was expecting to hear about the cover up of, not “merely” sexual assault, but actual mass rape, torture and slavery over years and decades against children, almost all White girls, by Muslims, mostly Pakistanis in:

    Rotherham
    Rochdale
    Bradford
    Keighley
    Halifax
    Burnley
    Blackburn
    Sheffield
    Oxford
    Luton
    London

    It will get much worse. If you know anything about Islam, then you will understand why Muslim demographics is perhaps the most important subject we face. It gets worse the longer we ignore it.

    Politically and culturally, what are we going to do?

    • cartimandua

      26 are known about.

      • shaunantijihad

        Do you mean 26 court cases or towns/cities? Anyway, it doesn’t matter. What matters is that these crimes were covered up for a long time before any move to expose and stop them was made. Decades in some cases. And the reason every time was given that they didn’t want to “damage community relations” or some bollocks.

        They (the politicians, media and police) were afraid of Muslims rioting, again; they were afraid of losing their votes; they were afraid of being called racist; they were afraid Whites would turn to the BNP, and so on.

        These are the same people who call a White school, in a traditionally White country, “too White” or “hideously White” etc

        It should be obvious. The genocide of the White race is being planned and the early stages of this process are already in place. We should view mass immigration of Africans and Muslims, as well as the Muslim demographic jihad, as the creation of a proxy army that will absolutely turn our country into a middle eastern hellhole when their numbers have reached a certain point.

        If you haven’t yet seen any videos by a very informed Arab lady called Brigitte Gabrielle then she is well worth the time. Look up How Christian Lebanon Fell.

        • cartimandua

          26 different groups.

          • shaunantijihad

            Traitors live a life of fear. It was ever thus.

  • cartimandua

    http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-grooming-gangs/18739

    “Of 52 groups where ethnicity data was provided, 26 (50 per cent) comprised all Asian offenders, 11 (21 per cent) were all white, 9 (17 per cent) groups had offenders from multiple ethnicities, 4 (8 per cent) were all black offenders and there were 2 (4 per cent) exclusively Arab groups.

    Of the 306 offenders whose ethnicity was noted, 75 per cent were categorised as Asian, 17 per cent white, and the remaining 8 per cent black (5 per cent) or Arab (3 per cent).

    By contrast, the seven “Type 2 groups” – paedophile rings rather than grooming gangs – “were reported as exclusively of white ethnicity”.

    Ceop identified 144 victims of the Type 1 groups. Again, the data was incomplete. Gender was mentioned in 118 cases. All were female. Some 97 per cent of victims were white.

    Girls aged between 14 and 15 accounted for 57 per cent of victims. Out of 144 girls, 100 had “at least one identifiable vulnerability” like alcohol or drug problems, mental health issues or a history of going missing. More than half of the victims were in local authority care.

    The 27 court cases that we found led to the convictions of 92 men. Some 79 (87 per cent) were reported as being of South Asian Muslim origin.

    Three were white Britons, two were Indian, three were Iraqi Kurds, four were eastern European Roma and one was a Congolese refugee, according to reports of the trials.”

    “Sentencing nine men in 2012 over offences in Rochdale, judge Gerald Clifton told the defendants they had treated their victims “as though they were worthless and beyond all respect”, adding: “I believe that one of the factors that led to that was that they were not of your community or religion.”

    But at the Derby trial in 2010 the judge said he thought the race of the victims and their abusers was “coincidental”.”

    One of the victims of the Oxford gang told the Guardian that her abusers had asked her to recruit other teenagers and “specified that they wanted only white girls”.

  • UnionPacificRX

    Caption at the bottom of the headline reads “Stockholm police were warned not to give descriptions of the perpetrators lest they were accused of being racist”
    That is the same problem in the US. But what that does is create the opposite effect. If race is NOT mentioned, commenters assume it is not a white person.

  • Cobbett

    The sooner we dispense with the fiction that the State is there to protect us the better.

  • Knight of Tipton

    The men who perpertated these attacks were African and Arab, and if its racist to say that, then that makes me a racist.

    • Micke

      And a proud one at that I presume.

    • Zalacain

      Or a realist

    • moraywatson

      The men who perpetrated these attacks were muslims, and “muslim” isn’t a race at all.

      • Knight of Tipton

        They may well have been, they were also Arab and African.

        • moraywatson

          But Arab or African is not their relevant common denominator. And using “Arab or African” as the placeholder seems to be a rather rather racist way of tarring non-muslim Arabs and non-muslim Africans with the same mindset that drives muslims to commit atrocities. Muslims are driven by ideology, not by race.

          • Copyright101

            So we can import millions of non-whites into Europe as long as they arent Muslim or the wrong kind of Muslim?

            What an utterly pointless position to take. Or did I misunderstand you?

          • moraywatson

            All muslims are the wrong kind of muslim. Don’t import any muslims. If your country feels compelled to assist refugees fleeing muslim persecution, don’t take muslims as part of the mix.

          • Copyright101

            Mass-immigration is the issue. Islam is a merely a facet of that.

            The cuck/jewish position is we can replace the white population of Europe with Africans or whoever as long as they arent Muslims (or radical Muslims). Its utter drooling lunacy.

            The ‘no Muslims’ position is a Cultural Marxist one, not a conservative or patriotic one. Even some liberal/lefties have a problem with radical Islam. because muh gays, muh trannies, muh wimmin’s rights etc.

            So you’re a liberal/lefty then?

          • moraywatson

            The “no muslims” position is a Cultural Marxist one ???? I’m guessing you have to be a Cultural Marxist to come to that conclusion.
            The “no muslims” as an anti-totalitarian pro-individual freedoms position is espoused by non-dhimmified members of western societies.

          • Copyright101

            using “Arab or African” as the placeholder seems to be a rather
            rather racist way of tarring non-muslim Arabs and non-muslim Africans
            with the same mindset
            – you, the other day.

            Race is irrelevant, racism is an issue. Pure Cultural Marxist nonsense and misdirection. Race is the key issue, Islam secondary.

          • moraywatson

            You are the cultural Marxist. You don’t recognize when you are being ridiculed.

          • Copyright101

            You’re hopeless mate.

            Do you really not understand the point?

            You’re claiming that culture, environment and the rest are more important than race, genetics, nature. A position that renders yo unable to counter our Cultural Marxist PC friends. You’re using their world view to beat them. You can’t win a rigged game.

          • moraywatson

            Wrong. I’m claiming that the totalitarian ideology of islam is the greatest threat to the freedom loving world. Anything else you want to misstate ?

          • Copyright101

            the totalitarian ideology of islam

            Well, if we dont allow any of them to live amongst us then its no problem is it. Or are you suggesting some sort of extreme theological program to alter Islam? In which case thats going to mean conflict with Sunni Islam and Saudi Arabia. Instead we invite the Sunnis to live in our countries while warring on the less radical branch of Islam.

            the greatest threat to the freedom loving world

            Why is the freedom loving world allied with Saudi Arabia at all?

            I dont know if you’ve noticed but your Cultural Marxist friends have been undermining our freedom for a very long time now.

      • ShoeEventHorizon

        The men who perpetrated these attacks are like all the stats show over the past 70 years, the majority of this rapists/murderers are hostile 3rd world invaders (regardless of religion), brought to our lands by those talmudic jews who insist that the Europeans have no futures in their own homelands.

        • moraywatson

          No, it’s not “regardless of religion”. These are muslims. Not Christians, not Buddhists, not Mormons, not the Amish. Muslims. Wake up!

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            The negroes and indians and all other 3rd world invaders who have been raping white girls in Europe since the end of WWII are from a whole array of nations alien to Europe.

            The only reason we are being allowed to discuss it in the mainstream jewish media at all is that the latest wave of unwanted immigrants are muslim.

            All of this was instigated by the jews according to their plan to destroy Europe by way of revenge.

          • moraywatson

            We’re not discussing it in the “mainstream jewish media”. And the unwanted muslim problem has been in existence for 14 centuries.

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            The project to destabilise Europe has been going strong in earnest since 1948.

            Prior to 1999 there were relatively few muslims in Britain and the majority of race related crime was committed by your everyday Africans and indians.

            However since 9/11 the zionist occupied government of great Britain has concertedly been flooding our nations with muslims at an alarmingly exponential rate, keep this up and there won’t be any more white women for the negroes and indians to rape and murder.

            As to your rather pitiful response about muslims being a problem for 13 centuries (judaism has been trying to destroy the white race for centuries before islam came into existence), muslims living in the middle east are relatively no threat to Western society, until that is someone opens the doors to unrestricted mass immigration from that region.

            A similar situation to those who opened the gates to Constantinople.

            According to this jewish website

            the Jewish population of Toledo “opened the gates” of the city, welcoming the North African Muslims (Wexler 218).

            http://www.sephardicstudies.org/islam.html

            Same story repeated over and over again.

          • moraywatson

            Nice deflection. Nice ad hominem. And sorry, but I’m not into anti-Semitism.

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            There’s no deflection going on here other than your pathetic attempt to pretend that our demographic problem is only related to muslim immigration alone when all crime figures of the past 60 years show that all 3rd world immigrants brought to Europe since the war have been running rampant and protected by the state and media since then.

            The latest post from JJJJones demonstrates the point precisely.

            Another day another rape of a white girl; by a non-muslim Eritrean.

            http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/#comment-2460120370

            Only you don’t care because he isn’t a muslim oy vey.

            Now we understand there is a wider problem with all non-European cultures foisted on the natives, it’s only logical to examine just why all our nations are being forced to accept this mass invasion against the will of its people.

          • Copyright101

            Not as long as the unwanted jewish problem then.

    • Pip

      Regardless of their Nationality they were all Muslims, that’s the truth…

      • ShoeEventHorizon

        They were all 3rd world immigrants of which Britain and the rest of the Occident has been deluged with.

        Muslims are just the latest vector of attack the jews sent to destroy us.

        Just another group to add to all the other hostile alien tribes not compatible with European society.

      • Knight of Tipton

        .. yes, they were.

    • steddyneddy

      The ongoing horrors “The West” has committed in Libya, Iraq, Iran, Somalia, etc, in the past few years are actually far worse than what has happened in Europe recently. So yes I think we can safely say we in the west are racist. I bet a lot of people in the middle east consider us racist, and who can blame them?

  • Uusikaupunki

    Taharrush gamea, hijrah, halal, haram, fatwah..
    Europe is falling apart under a mooslem invasion but – hey, look! I’ve improved my Arabic vocabulary no end…great eh?

    • Patrick

      Jihad..Dont forget that one its getting more common every day

      • Conway

        Also Taqiyya, kitman and jizya.

        • EHGombrich

          And ficki ficki

  • AlexanderGalt

    And all peaceful means of protest have been shut off. I guess the powers that be actually want a war. Good piece on that here: http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2015/10/us-and-them.html

  • Nick

    You just can’t get anything more evil than left wingism.

    • Elfa

      It’s not left wingism, As a liberal, I’m against these progressive marxists. I’m against guns but if the day arrives, I’ll pick one up and stand with you to fight these beasts.

      • MoW

        it’s what the left has now become. neo-progressivism. the latest incarnation of a post modernist loathing of human civilization. if you’re a liberal, then, unless you’re living in north american, i wouldn’t put you on the left…

        • Elfa

          American, born and raised from blood that’s been in NA for 400 years.

      • Nick

        Thank you.And it would be my pleasure to stand next to you and fight the beasts.

        But,left wingism is evil.

  • Elfa

    This is how I feel.

  • Old Fox

    The race is now on: will our left wing aristo-bureaucracy manage to import sufficient numbers of third world clients before we the European people summon the courage to hurl them from their offices?

  • Kris Szczepanski

    Multiculturalism is sooo great
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltJqVvtEqoM

    • sarahsmith232

      tht was a seriously disturbing watch.

      • Richard Baranov

        Yes it was and you realize Sarah, that European governments have now decided by their lack of action that you, as a women, are a second class citizen.

    • Brandon

      Argentina is not a third world nation.

  • Harry Pond

    Its blatantly obvious our unelected leaders of the EU have decided to remedy our falling birth rates by replacing the missing babies with mainly muslim immigrants. No-one has been consulted or asked if this is a good idea, in fact they have remained silent using the Syrian conflict as a cover to enact their plan,

    • William Bell

      Is anyone proposing measures to increase the birthrate of indigenous, middle-class Britons or would that go beyond the pale of conventional respectability?

      • Harry Pond

        It could be done via the taxation system- cheaper childcare and 50 year mortgage terms may help. Basically young couples aren’t having kids because its unaffordable.

        • William Bell

          I agree. In the USA, the expense of college education, the ticket to white-collar jobs, is the main deterrent. Unfortunately, it doesn’t affect underclass reproduction.

          • Harry Pond

            Unfortunately the religion of political correctness dictates that rather than being seen as discriminatory in any way we must replace ourselves with hordes from backward third world countries. Unless you involve yourself in politics we all have to sit back and watch our countries destroyed in front of our eyes. Tragic really.

  • Marcus_Leeds

    “Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural”
    I think we’re learning Babs.

  • justejudexultionis

    This is what happens when you reject Jesus Christ and allow your country to be dictated to by a minority of medieval bigots from a backward, murderous Arabian culture. Christianity has almost been annihilated in Europe through the concerted efforts of atheists, multiculturalists and cultural Marxists and we are tasting the bitter fruits of this Muhammedan insanity.

    • Brandon

      The bible is alot less brutal than the koran and

  • jim

    There is no such thing as equality.The bigots were right.

    • James Michael fuqua

      How could we be equal and still retain our individuality. Equal only exists in numbers and math. The idea is “Equal in the eyes of the law”. That has been conveniently misinterpreted as all humans are equal. And that idea is only promoted by people who know they are beneath the people they constantly call racists.

  • James Michael fuqua

    Why would anyone sit around and wait for the government to do something about this kind of crap. You don’t need the blessing of your government to defend yourself, your family, your friends or anybody, unless your a coward that’s afraid to step up. Governments only do what the people force them too, and they will keep this crap up until you kill them. Shedding the blood of tyrants and patriots is a requirement of democracy. Until you are ready to die for freedom you don’t deserve it and you won’t have it. Time to grow a pair.

    • red2black

      ‘Governments only do what the people force them to’?

      • Dave m

        i think hes saying that governments are reactionary.. ie they dont actually lead they wait till a chrisis occurs before they react – often incorrectly – but thats another matter.

        • red2black

          Governments do what’s in the governments’ interests, whether it’s reactionary or not.

    • shaunantijihad

      “…tyrants AND patriots…”

      I see.

      • James Michael fuqua

        Yes. Once the people of Europe take control of their governments by any means necessary they can then irradicate the subhuman filth that has invaded their countries.

      • Richard Baranov

        James is referring to this rather famous observation by Thomas Jefferson:
        “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” A truism.

        • William Bell

          Of course, Jefferson didn’t mean that killing patriots is a good or necessary thing. Rather, he recognized that some patriots would most probably die in an insurrection against a tyrant but that the benefit of overthrowing the tyrant would outweigh the toll of dead patriots.

          • Richard Baranov

            Quite so. He was suggesting that patriots get killed fighting tyrants. Things have not changed, unfortunately.

  • Richard Baranov

    Tommy Robinson being honest, accurate and practical. Things that our so called leaders are utterly incapable of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08ZPbUBmb30

  • roccolore

    England did that for years, but like in all cases, it was “racist” to go after Muslim rapists.

    • MRB

      Primarily in corrput labour controlled areas. Can we hold the entire labour party as responsible or accomplices to the mass child abuse carried out under their noses? Where they turn a blind eye because Mr Muhammed Ahmed what ever can guarantee 200,000 pakistani votes?

      • red2black

        Primarily in poorer inner-city and town centre areas.

    • Burntout Aussie

      Well,. . .we’d better do something about it and SOON,. . .bear in mind, thanks to the EU, and Angela Merkel personally. . .. this is now WORLD WAR THREE whether we wanted it or not . . .IT IS HERE. No use whingeing and complaining, you have to do something about it yourselves, in whatever small way you can. The future of White European people is at the greatest risk it has been for centuries. . . this is the ENDGAME, and please don’t forget this.

  • James Michael fuqua

    Stop worrying about the the almost unintelligible babble that almost always begins and ends with the word racist, and defend your nation and your people at any cost. Islam is not a race, it’s a death cult and an antisocial parasitic slime. Muslims make nazis look like choir boys. Quit seeking the blessing of the ignorant masses surrounding you and do something for gods sake. Men and women of action don’t seek approval like little children.

    • Burntout Aussie

      I have friends living in Sweden, and thus far,. . .since they live out in the sticks a bit,. . .the have not been “Enriched” with migrants yet,. . . .and with tis morning’s temperatures nudging Minus 23 Dg C,. . .the migrants MAY well have second thoughts, but since Sweden is already completely shagged and over-run anyway, it will probably make no real difference to their outcome. . . . .My friend North of Gothenburg says all the gun shops are running out of stock,. . . .Hmmm. . .perhaps the local blondies are beginning to get the picture, even though their Media is ten times worse than the BBC for omitting inportant, unbiased news. . . .word gets around. . .I am hoping that the Interwebbythingummy and it’s Social Media. . .will be the undoing of the great plan to remove all whitepeople from the continent of Europe permanently.

  • Chris Hobson

    The swedes call it PK fascism

  • Bonkim

    Complete idiots – these backward camel traders need to be treated in the language they understand – cat o nine tails – not sermons about equality and democracy. The Germans and swedes assumed all this scum will understand their generosity – Good for the U.K Cameron knew better – Can somebody stop that idiot at the UN preaching the lake of human kindness and scolding Britain for not accepting this human waste from entering Britain.

    • red2black

      Don’t be so unkind to camels.

      • Burntout Aussie

        Jeeeze mate,. . .someone was Obviously gonna get the hump over that one. . . .

        • red2black

          Rolf Harris.

  • MRB

    Their we have it, the arrogant white castle, ivory tower political elite with their forced multi-cultural (i.e. no culture) mentanlity have finally admitted their policy is; it’s better to rape a white woman than criticise a brown person.

    • James Michael fuqua

      Who cares about their policies? Do what you know is right for your and your community. Nations are the problem. Think on a smaller scale of your community. That’s where one man or woman can make a difference.

    • Burntout Aussie

      Coudenhove-Kallergi plan in full swing and working well throughout Europe. . . .Juncker and Merkel have alread won this years’ CK prize for ferking the continent. . . YES it appears to be working, with Dave the Dim, and Co in charge, backed up by the looney lefties. . .we have this problem in OZ too, so you are not alone. . . . .

  • Tom Sykes

    I listened very careful to the BBC reports on R4. They completely avoided using the words Islam and Muslim. Just saying.

    • red2black

      Please keep listening and let us know when they do. (tee hee)

    • Burntout Aussie

      And you are surprised by that ?

    • jdgalt

      I’m surprised no one in Britain has taken the government to court over that hate-speech law. When a so-called “human rights law” against speech causes a string of rapes to go on longer (as it did in Rotherham), that is certainly a bigger violation of human rights than the speech itself.

  • strangemenssana .

    One needs to understand the “logic” of these leftist/feminists. Those of a darker hue,like women(no matter what their race) are the victims of a vicious Western European based patriarchy which is responsible for all the wickedness in the world. Those North Africans and others engaged in these assaults did so because of colonialism and the racism of Europeans. Actually they weren’t responsible at all for any of their actions. It is white males who bear responsibility(particularly the sort that read publications like The Spectator). This really is how these people think.

  • B.J.D

    When faced with a collapse of your worldview in light of reality you can do one of two things: correct your worldview or go full speed ahead into denial land. Methinks, the left is taking route two.

  • bggatbdl

    The problem is highly-exaggerated by the right wing parties, which I am sure of because the criminal right wing Republican hate criminals slander Muslims every day in order to gain political advantage. As far as I am concerned, right wing hate mongers acting like youthful tomfoolery is somehow terrorism. When white kids do the same thing, they laugh it off as “boys will be boys.” I am sick of the right wing hate crimes against Mulsims.

    • red2black

      Things change far too often for any particular worldview to be credible for very long.
      (Sorry – intended for B.J.D. below)

    • Vinnie

      point me in the direction of white boys committing mass rape in foreign countries for political gain who are not part of a military but have been invited in. We constantly criticize the British youth on holiday in Spain, but they don’t go around raping to cause terror, if anything it’s other way around.

    • bill_owens

      I am sick of the right wing hate crimes against Mulsims.”

      Name one. Let’s discuss.

    • Dinobot

      How many right wing hate crimes against muslims actually happen. There are more anti-Semitic crimes against Jews,.There are more anti-Christian hate crimes than anti-muslims worldwide.

    • gotroy22

      I am sick of you Muslims and your Taqiyya.

      • RWJetzt

        You seriously think this is a Muslim? I think this may be one of our (((greatest allies))).

      • ShoeEventHorizon

        Taqiyya isn’t that the same as your obligation to lie to all goyim known as Kol Nidre?

    • MrJones

      How many total victims of the grooming gangs have their been all over the country?

      No one knows because the UK political and media class won’t investigate it.

    • MarkJ
    • Desborough

      Can’t white kids be muslims too? Are you some kind of racist!??

      Your conflation of ethnicity and religion is as apparent as your victimhood.

  • Vinnie

    Left wing is a form of sado masochism. It’s like Beauty and the Beast. Once you understand that Left wing liberal men get a kick out of ethnic beasts causing this, you’ll start to understand why it continues.

  • Marcus_Leeds

    Is there anyone that still thinks this is a mistake or an accident? It grows more clear by the day (and has been clear for some time) that the goal Is to destroy every European country they can with mass immigration. Effectively reducing the White populations to minority status.

    • WTF

      I think its both but the left is so indoctrinated with their own dogma they refuse to believe it.

    • MrJones

      stealth genocide

    • William Bell

      Europeans who don’t reproduce at or above replacement rate are complicit in a perverse, slow-rolling voluntary genocide. That creates the vaccuum that sucks in migrants from other continents. The most guilty are the elites who make no attempt to adjust incentives to stem the process.

      • Wandervogel

        What do you mean “replacement rate”? I thought the plan was to gradually reduce the planet’s population? Has the plan changed since the seventies?

        • mumble

          Muslim Demographics (about 8 years out of date, by the looks of it.)

          For example, it is projected that Belgium will have a Muslim majority by 2030.

          • Wandervogel

            Yes. They breed like rabbits. Literally. Like the Africans, going for larger population with less empathy for individual life or intelligence, depending on numbers as the survival strategy, rather than small families with intensive education and individual value. The same strategy is writ large in the ghetto life of American cities. Odd that no one mentions the old population control propaganda at this moment. Makes you suspect there might be some long term fiendish plan.

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            Are they going to kick out all the blacks and indians who currently have displaced the natives from England?

            We can’t allow this to happen, we must import even more from the old colonies and sub-continent before our demographics get all out of whack!

      • mumble

        The last stand will be by American with five children and twenty guns each.

        I wonder how LGBTs and European art, heavily based on depiction of the human form will fare in the American South? We can keep exporting the art objects to America, as ISIS has been doing for healthy profits for some time, but what of, say, the Sistine Chapel?

      • Copyright101

        The elites are the ones doing it!

        Its not case of them somehow just being being passive or neglectful. Its outright warfare.

    • RWJetzt

      Correct. It is White Genocide, an elaborate plan by financial conspirators and fuelled by a fierce hatred of one race, and one race only.

      Who would want to do this? Who have developed a psyche of constantly being persecuted, an urge for ‘revenge’ added onto a general envy of the glory of the Europeans? Who have both the in-group organisation and sickening amounts of capital necessary to bring about such widespread change against the will of the sleeping masses? Questions, questions, questions… Try as I might, I can’t make ‘the Muslims’ or ‘the Left’ fit as the Answer…

      • Marcus_Leeds

        Yes, it is so easy to get angry against those committing the crimes in Europe on a daily basis. This is perfectly correct and understandable. But then you have to take a step back and ask who is facilitating this in the first place?

    • Pip

      UN agenda 21/2030, its been in the public arena for decades, nobody can claim they didn’t realise.

  • emersonushc13

    One of the mental disorders associated with marxism says “I’m not pro-jihadist, but I’m definitely anti-anti-jihadist because conservatives are horrible people”.

    • Vinnie

      “rubbing the Right’s nose in diversity” – never mind that it rubs other people’s nose in rape of their loved ones.

      • red2black

        That’s right. The result of a political party bunfight in Parliament.
        What did any of that have to do with the electorate?

      • Andy JS

        They’ll never admit they’re wrong no matter how bad things get, because they can’t bear facing up to the fact that they’ve wasted most of their lives making the wrong political choices.

  • gotroy22

    Why can’t they call it what it really is: Muslim Culture.

    • colchar

      Because then they would have to confront some truths that they aren’t willing to accept. They would much rather blame white males for every ill.

    • WTF

      More accurately its Islamic culture which Muslims follow religiously in more ways than one.

  • WTF

    Looks like Trump has a supporter in the Bavarian Governor Peter Dreier, who has given Merkel her own problems back to solve rather than dumping it on ordinary Germans. You created this mess Merkel, you fix it, way to go Herr Dreir.

    Don’t be surprised if Trump suggests that Obama lets out his spare rooms for migrants.
    !

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3399260/Angry-Bavarian-politician-sends-bus-refugees-Merkel.html

    • MrJones

      well done him

  • MrJones

    Looks like the grooming gang syndrome is the same all over western Europe – i wonder how many victims in total?

    • Lindum

      The Indians complain of the same.

  • MarkJ

    It’s high time for Europe to rediscover its “inner medievality”.

    • red2black

      We’ve spent more time fighting and killing each other than with anyone from outside.

      • Sue Smith

        “We’ve”?

      • mumble

        True, but that was a long time ago. In the interim, we’ve stopped stoning each other to death, burning people alive, chopping their heads off, drowning witches and so forth, and part of our European culture is a lack of interest in going back.

        We’ve waded through blood over Protestant vs. Catholic, but, these days, almost no-one cares. We don’t want to go back to those days just because they were wrong.

        • red2black

          World War 2?

    • Sue Smith

      Done!!

    • octagon<3

      I think it would be better stamp out the medieval mindset rather than appropriating it. We don’t need lashings and executions. We need rule of law. Let’s not revert to barbarity. Organized deportations and tougher immigration and asylum laws should do the trick, but our current ruling elite is too stupid, too dishonest, and too cowardly to do anything. The tide is changing.

    • shona long

      Guess it is a step up from the biblical mentality others have, no thanks all the same.

    • mumble

      “The Gates of Vienna”? That sort of thing?

  • Notjack

    I can only wonder what the families of those police officers must be saying. “Oh, please Papa! Will you cover up my rape by Muslim refugees too?”

  • ScottishRed

    I’ll bet that if Dan Eliasson’s wife, daughter, sister or mother were one of those women who were attacked on NYE he would change his tune. As we say in the US, “a liberal is someone who hasn’t been mugged”.

    • red2black

      Of course. Most people only really care when they’re directly affected by something.

    • WTF

      Excellent response.

  • colchar

    The Left really are determined to eff Europe up aren’t they?

    • Dr_Eigenvector

      (((The Left)))

      • ShoeEventHorizon

        “The Left” Is secret code for (((liberals))) and we all know that Karl Marx was a secret dhimmi muslim as (((English Rose))) Cartimanduabergsteinowitz will tell you.

    • Andy JS

      Yep, all they care about is being authentically anti-white, straight, able-bodied men. As long as it satisfies those conditions, they don’t care what happens.

    • MrJones

      Whereas the “right” like Merkel and the Cameroons are trying to stop them?

      There’s no left and right anymore; it’s globalists vs everyone else.

    • RWJetzt

      Come on, it’s wrong to characterise Jewry as being solely of the ‘Left’. They dominate the fake cucked Right too! They have always played both sides!

      But yes, the fundament of your post remains correct. They are.

      • colchar

        Jewry? You’re a special kind of stupid aren’t you? And yes, that was a rhetorical question.

        • RWJetzt

          Need a dictionary, cuck? Here, let me Google that for you: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jewry&gws_rd=cr&ei=ZiWZVoztO8PSUc3ttdAH

          No, the stupid ones are the ones who seriously think this came about by White people worldwide – completely of their own accord and free of alien influence – deciding to organise their collective suicide themselves. Financial ‘democracy’ is designed to appease people of that class of stupidity.

        • Copyright101

          The modern left is largely a creation of the jews.

  • Doug

    Diversity is good for you Goys. You need it. We can have no more of these monolithic nations.

    Good Goys. Roll over and die.

    • Desborough

      I think you meant to type ‘monocultural’, Mr. Malaprop.

      • Doug

        Bad Goy! Bad Goy!

  • Richard

    I went into a supermarket today to do some shopping, and couldn’t keep up with the cashier’s speed in filling my bags. I apologised, and his response was, “Don’t worry. This is women’s work.” He was an Arab.

    • Patricia

      “…his response was, “Don’t worry. This is women’s work.” He was an Arab.”
      That’s the sort of remark that would normally make the media.

  • Dr_Eigenvector

    We need to decide what we are going to do about all this because we are running out of time and before long we won’t have any say in our destiny at all.

  • mumble

    Swedish men are no better.

    Yes, they are, because, in Malmo, they escort Jews home after synagogue to protect them from Islamist attacks.

    • Dr_Eigenvector

      Even Barbara Lerner Spectre has to have a large escort home from synagogue now.

      You’d have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

    • Copyright101

      Well if thats not a symptom of utter cuckritude I dont know what is.

  • King Zog

    The epically-named German town of Landshut has apparently sent a busload of immigrants to Merkel’s office in protest.

  • http://shyanguya.wordpress.com/ @FMShyanguya

    Easy to conclude Islamic culture sick the follow through reasoning is that there is something demonic here.

  • Lars Anderson

    And this after Sweden’s feminist foreign policy. What a bunch of disgusting, craven hypocrites. Take care of your own before you deign to lecture the rest of us.

  • Cincinnatus

    Same story in the USA where the media refuses to report crimes by blacks against whites, especially rape. In most years about 25,000 white women will be raped by black men. In contrast, in most years the number of black women raped by white man is statistically zero, meaning less than 100, this in a nation of 300 million where whites outnumber blacks by six to one.

    • Heather

      Please share more (links, etc…) Thank you

  • Rick Nash

    No one seems to be bothered.Politicians Like the German leader Angela Merkel and Canadian Leader Justin and our very own Jihadi Obama Mohamed and Cameron UK are examples of letting in Radicals in thousands without even checking them if they have connections with Isis and Taliban placing all innocent citizens in danger.We needLeaders like Mr.Trump now or never He has to team up with Mr.Putin And China austarlia Israel with India ( not pakistan) France and Australia. No time for political correctness now.Lets forget our differences and think about our current and future generations Is this how we want to leave our beloved countries around the world for our kids and women to live Already there are many reports of rape by the barabric muslims
    Radical Islam is here now to convert and rule by force (sword) Rape convert non muslims by money given by rich oil countries force muslim laws and build Hate mosques in thousands and disturb our peaceful life like praying on busy streets shouting with really loud speakers calling for muslim prayers 6 times a day just to show their power or refuse to live peacefully with the country they chose to live in on non muslims Sending trained radicalized muslim youths mixed with so called refuges This is the policy of islam then now and in future This cannot be stopped until the People of the nonmuslim world wake up and stop this.Mass invasion has started around the world with Millions of Muslims just walking in to the western countries while destroying everything in their way.Rape looting converting terror all is happening in non muslim countries while the rich oil countries like saudi Arabiya etc not taking their own muslim people while the rest on countries have to fight The radical terror groups and on other hand feed the refugees ?

    • Heather

      Agreed

  • KenSydney

    The huge irony of all that is unfolding in Germany and most of Europe is that those who have been the most strident supporters of feminism, equality over unity, LGBT, and the moral and sexual revolution, are at the same time the most vocal supporters of a policy setting and mind-set that invites a culture diametrically opposed to this worldview. This inevitably will in time see their hard fought ‘victories’ eroded and destroyed by the cancer of the political ideology that is Islamism – bitter-sweet irony. This imported culture is at its centre virulently anti-Semitic and Jew-hating. Perhaps it is this last feature that is the glue that combines the suicidal political left (aka the pathetically appalling Swedish Foreign Minister). Read it and weep over this inconvenient truth.

    • Kasperlos

      Yes, events in Europe can only be described as bizarre. As Europeans, the young especially, continue to party and believe that things will go on forever, change of a sinister form is taking root beneath their smug noses. A liberal values Europe has imported one of the most virulent forms of tyranny in the form of the political-religious ideology of Islam. Very, very strange.

    • Mow_the_Grass

      Not sure if you are aware – but here in Israel we have just banned all Swedish officials starting with the diabolical Margot Wallstron.
      Strong moves also to boycott (yes Israelis can also play that game) – any Swedish products incl IKEA which is very big here.
      As far as many are concerned here – the Swedes deserve whats ever coming their via arab/muslim immigrants.
      They (Swedes) have been ardent supporters of palestinian terror so let them start to enjoy this – up close and personal

      • KenSydney

        The Swedes are no longer the Vikings they once were. Their left leaning liberalism has made them morally conflicted, theologically disarmed and highly vulnerable to the wave about to sweep over them. Sad frankly. Perhaps their last usefulness to the rest of the world will be as an example of utter stupidity.

        • Mow_the_Grass

          From where we look – we see this a very necessary lesson in reality.
          Perhaps now the ordinary Swede who has voted in these left leaning arab loving politicians will begin to realise some facts – through the fog of their naivete on matters as they relate to their friends in the arab/muslim ME

          • ADB2

            Perhaps now the ordinary Swede will also look at Barbara Lerner Spectre’s Sweden-based European Institute for Jewish Studies:

            “Europe is going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role…”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

            She’s got that right.

          • Mow_the_Grass

            Barbara snorr Lerner yawn Spectre zzzzzzzzzzzz.
            You need some fresh material ‘pal/ette’.
            Can’t keep trawling the same old same old BS across these pages.
            Need to get back to head office and tell the other girlies there – that this crapola just ain’t cuttin the mustard no more

          • ADB2

            “….this crapola just ain’t cuttin the mustard no more”

            Yes, that would be why people like yourself scramble to get the vid taken down on less free-speech supporting websites.

          • Mow_the_Grass

            No ‘pal/ette’ the people flagging comments come from your little clique over on that public toilet posing as a blogsite viz morgoth @sshole – and led by some fat out of work slob calling itself dr shickelgruber or something.

          • Copyright101

            Its a valid piece of documentary evidence. Its hardly comparable to you people bleating about trailer parks, mom’s basement, taking meds, tin foil hats etc

          • Penny

            Why do you assume that this woman has any power? What she says is one thing; who listens to her is something else entirely.

          • Doug

            Compare what she says to what’s happening in Sweden. Detect any correlation?

          • Penny

            So, are you suggesting that Barbara Lerner controls the EU? That they implement policy according to what she demands?

            She is putting forward her view – she hasn’t the power to do anything else. Whether other Jews share her view is debatable – unless you think each and every one of them is in on some big secret plan dominated by this woman..

            There appear to be plenty of non-Jews who think Europe should be multicultural – and some big names among them. Why are you focusing on the insignificant Barbara Lerner? If you keep peering into the same corner of the room you aren’t going to see the other three corners or, indeed, the entire room

          • Copyright101

            BLS runs this:

            http://www.paideia-eu.org/

            Maybe its not that important but its way more than we are allowed to do.

            Paideia was created in 2000 through grants from the Swedish government and the Marianne and Marcus Wallenberg Foundation

            Are there any comparable grants for comparable white groups from the Swedish government?

            Why is the Swedish govt spending a single penny on this?

          • Mow_the_Moser

            Jerusalem Post, 30 June 2011

            Danny Danon [Israeli MK]: Send African migrants to AUSTRALIA

            Send them to live down under.

            “The arrival of thousands of MUSLIM infiltrators to Israeli territory is a clear threat to the state’s Jewish identity,” Danon told The Jerusalem Post.

            “The refugees’ place is not among us, and the initiative to transfer them to Australia is the right and just solution.”
            http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Danny-Danon-Send-African-migrants-to-Australia

      • BertieSmalls_the_Grass

        Jerusalem Post, 07 January 2014

        ERITREAN migrants resettled from ISRAEL to SWEDEN

        The resettlement…was part of the “ONGOING PROCESS of willful deportation to SWEDEN…”
        http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Eritrean-migrants-resettled-from-Israel-to-Sweden-337414

    • Mow_the_Grass

      in fact – not just the ‘suicidal political left’ – but also elements of neonazi supremacists whitetrash who share the same jewhate agenda.
      Remember that Hitler was a great fan of the Grand Mufti – so nazism has always found a happy home with islamism.
      Shared objectives.

      • Mike Johnson

        Why not tell the whole truth? We know it is nothing new for people like you who only push their side of the story.

        Some of the zionist’s like Avraham Stern and Yitzhak Shamir were great fans of Hitler too

        51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis

        by Lenni Brenner

        http://www.amazon.com/51-Docum

        History can be deceptive. It’s fair to say that some of the sensational never-published-before documents, in this book, will shock those who have accepted Zionism and its supposed history, at face value, as a political movement that was the hope of the Jews. Lenni Brenner, the intrepid author of “Zionism in the Age of Dictators,” reveals disturbing new evidence in his latest effort, that suggest just the opposite. In fact, he makes a compelling case that the Zionist record was “dishonorable.” You can consider this excellent tome as a worthy sequel to his first expose’ on the myopic Zionist zealots of that bygone era.

        For openers, Brenner showed how the Zionists had a long history of shameless cooperation with the Nazis, especially after the dictator Adolph Hitler had came to power in 1933. The Zionists were also in bed, to some extent, with the other members of what later became known as WWII’s “Axis of Evil,” that included Benito Mussolini’s Italy, and Tojo Hideki’s Japan. For example, in March 29,1936, Zionists praised Il Duce, and his regime, at the opening of a maritime school, funded by the Fascist government, at Civitavecchia. This is where a Zionist youth group, the “Betar,” trained its sailors for the future Revisionist state. The speakers ignored the fact that on Oct. 3, 1935, Italian troops had invaded Abyssinia.

      • Mike Johnson

        Why not tell the whole truth? There are plenty of sources out there connecting zionist with the Nazis We know it is nothing new for people like you who only push their side of the story.

        Some of the zionist’s like Avraham Stern and Yitzhak Shamir were great fans of Hitler too

        51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis

        by Lenni Brenner

        http://www.amazon.com/51-Docum

        History can be deceptive. It’s fair to say that some of the sensational never-published-before documents, in this book, will shock those who have accepted Zionism and its supposed history, at face value, as a political movement that was the hope of the Jews. Lenni Brenner, the intrepid author of “Zionism in the Age of Dictators,” reveals disturbing new evidence in his latest effort, that suggest just the opposite. In fact, he makes a compelling case that the Zionist record was “dishonorable.” You can consider this excellent tome as a worthy sequel to his first expose’ on the myopic Zionist zealots of that bygone era.

        For openers, Brenner showed how the Zionists had a long history of shameless cooperation with the Nazis, especially after the dictator Adolph Hitler had came to power in 1933. The Zionists were also in bed, to some extent, with the other members of what later became known as WWII’s “Axis of Evil,” that included Benito Mussolini’s Italy, and Tojo Hideki’s Japan. For example, in March 29,1936, Zionists praised Il Duce, and his regime, at the opening of a maritime school, funded by the Fascist government, at Civitavecchia. This is where a Zionist youth group, the “Betar,” trained its sailors for the future Revisionist state. The speakers ignored the fact that on Oct. 3, 1935, Italian troops had invaded Abyssinia.

        • cartimandua

          No no it was Muslims who cosied up to Hitler and to some degree the Pope.

          • Mike Johnson

            So did Avraham Stern and Yitzhak Shamir who were zionist and led the Lehi

            Lehi (group)

          • RWJetzt

            Hitleeerrr!!! Naaaaaarrrzziiiiis!!! Remember the 60000000000! Jewess, please. You were exposed badly enough in the old thread, now you return as if nothing had happened, regurgitating your same tired memes to anyone who’ll give you the time of day. No-one cares, take it to Jerusalem Post.

          • cartimandua

            The only thing “exposed ” is how mentally deranged you are.

            If you don’t want to remember “the joos” you might (if you were English) want to remember our dead and the Russian dead etc etc.

            “Here in Dachau on the 12th of September,
            1944, four young woman officers of the
            British forces attached to Special Operations
            Branch were brutally murdered and their bodies
            cremated. They died as gallantly as they had
            served the Resistance in France during the
            common struggle for freedom from tyranny.

            This recognition was a long time coming. For 20 years after the war, there was no memorial for those who died at Dachau. Then, on May 9, 1965, a large Museum opened in the former Dachau concentration camp on the initiative of, and according to, the plans of the Comité International de Dachau, an organization of former prisoners.

            In 1978, a catalog was published by the Comité International de Dachau in Brussels for sale to visitors to the Museum; it contained photos of the exhibits including photos of documents on display in the Museum. But nowhere in the Museum, nor in the catalog, was there any documentation about the four women of the British Special Operations Executive (SOE) who were “brutally murdered” at Dachau on the 12th of September 1944. Not until 1975, when this plaque was put up, was there any mention of them at all at the Dachau Memorial site.

            In 1958, an anonymous former Dutch prisoner at Dachau contacted author Jean Overton Fuller after reading her biography of Noor Inayat Khan. He claimed to have witnessed the execution of Noor Inayat Khan on September 12, 1994 at Dachau. According to his story, this anonymous prisoner had seen a high-ranking SS officer named Wilhelm Ruppert, whom he mistakenly called a “sadistic guard,” undress Noor and then beat her all over her body until she was a “bloody mess” before personally shooting her in the back of the head. Although the execution spot at Dachau was outside the camp and hidden by trees and bushes, this Dutch prisoner was allowed to get close enough so that he could see everything and hear Noor cry out “Liberté” just before she died.”
            Noor was in fact Muslim.

        • Mow_the_Grass

          You and your ilk are renowned for pulling obscure BS off your fabourite sites ie Stormfront.
          You think its some form of smart tactic.
          Its garbage and we’ve all seen the same crap over and over again.
          Go find some real facts.
          btw – do they have three bedroomed trailers – sure they must you breed like rabbits.

          • Mike Johnson

            The source I gave is Amazon a huge book seller in America. Having fun in your settlement shack in the West Bank?

          • Copyright101

            This ‘Stormfront’ sounds interesting. Got a link to that?

        • cartimandua

          Soo you are trying to says the “joos” cuddled up to Hitler.
          Do you even hear yourself and how crazy you are?
          Go take some meds yours are not working David.

          • Mike Johnson

            The source is from one of the largest book sellers in America

          • Theodor_Worzel

            “Soo you are trying to says the “joos” cuddled up to Hitler. Do you even hear yourself and how crazy you are? Go take some meds yours are not working David.”

            THE TIMES OF ISRAEL, 20 February 2012

            [Avraham Stern] advocated for a deal with GERMANY… arguing that the Jews in the land of Israel…make a pact with the enemies of their enemies…believing that he could oust the British from Palestine and help the [Germans] rid Europe of its Jewish presence by moving them to the Hebrew state.

            http://www.timesofisrael.com/a-rebel-remembered/
            http://www.britannica.com/topic/Stern-Gang

          • cartimandua

            There was no Israel til 1948
            Hitler died 1945
            So yes you are still loony tunes.

          • Theodor_Worzel

            Read the article, DUMMY!

        • Theodor_Worzel

          THE TIMES OF ISRAEL, 20 February 2012

          [Avraham Stern] advocated for a deal with [GERMANY]… arguing that the Jews in the land of Israel…make a pact with the enemies of their enemies…believing that he could oust the British from Palestine and help the [Germans] rid Europe of its Jewish presence by moving them to the Hebrew state.
          http://www.timesofisrael.com/a-rebel-remembered/

          Jewish Telegraphic Agency, 27 August 1933

          Zionist Pact with Germany Denounced at Congress

          Prague (Aug. 25)

          The agreement reported negotiated with the German Government providing for the export of the capital of German emigrants to Palestine in the form of German goods, was strongly denounced here this afternoon from the rostrum of the Eighteenth World Zionist Congress as meaning a break in the Jewish world-wide anti-[German] boycott.

          The agreement, announced to the congress by Dr. Arthur Ruppin, agricultural and colonization expert of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, provided for the establishment of a trustee corporation to liquidate Jewish possessions in Germany to the extent of three million marks, this sum, in the form of goods manufactured in Germany, to be exported only to Palestine.
          http://www.jta.org/1933/08/27/archive/zionist-pact-with-germany-denounced-at-congress

      • ADB2

        Yeah, sure. That’s why every anti-immigrationist party across Europe has been described as “neo-Nazi”.

      • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

        Oh – here we are again. Is expounding on ‘Jew Hate’, your full time job or just a hobby? Lunatic.

        • Mow_the_Grass

          Buzz off – and go make the wife some tea.
          There’s a good boy.

      • RWJetzt

        Poooor, poooor Jewwsss!! Cry for us goy!

        Why stop there? Why don’t we talk about all of the other civilisations who have eventually turned on your clique – that being, every single people amongst whom you’ve ever lived – 109 and counting! Still, it’s THEIR fault, right? We just can’t fathom out why the goy hate us so much, as hard as our ohhhh-sooo-hiiigh IQs might try…

        Let’s do you the completely undeserved honour of taking anything that comes out of your lying mouth seriously, Jew. You’re being persecuted by these Muslims in Europe!? Oh no! My heart bleeds for you! Maybe you should have thought about that, Jew, when your Tribe (who for some reason didn’t go to the homeland we gave you) were all pushing for open borders for every one of your host nations… oh, you did think of that, didn’t you?

        The Jew cries about being hated even as he organises to wipe out his host. His dream – a mixed race, bastardised, devastated Europe, the only kind over which he can rule with his mercantile machinations. While the transformation heats up, he will return to his ethnic homeland which suffers from none of the toxic ideologies he pushes for the goy. But there are no people stupider than this one, for his entire strategy will only result in his own destruction. Even if he did succeed in plunging the white race into desolation, it would only sound his own death knell, for it is only on the gullibility of the goyim that he is able to exist at all. The Chinese have no time for you, nor do any other race in the world, as they are not so propagandised/naturally empathetic as to give a damn about such a dangerous outgroup.

    • MrJones

      The cultural left are simply anti-white. They’re only pro-gay, pro-feminist etc as a way of attacking white people for their supposed sins. Hence there’s no real conflict.

  • Kasperlos

    Unlike in centuries past, this 21st century invasion by barbarians is self-inflicted. The peoples of Europe are either lethargic, believe in the new transformation, or are simply brainwashed by the Marxist-Socialist agenda. The few people who have stood up and raised their voices against the systematic rape (literal) of their societies by hordes of third world invaders are quickly suppressed by the organs of the state. Sound familiar? With the media keeping the fact that 3,000 illegal migrants per day are still entering Germany alone the near future for peace, stability is not in the cards. The people have only themselves and their chosen governments to blame for the greatest unmitigated disaster to befall Europe for 70 years.

    • William Bell

      The long-run effects of this unopposed invasion look to be far more drastic than the effects of either or both 20th-century “world wars.”

      • ShoeEventHorizon

        The mass invasion of Europe is the direct result of those world wars.

        • William Bell

          “Direct” is a stretch.

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            Since the end of WWII each and every nation across the Occident has been under zionist occupation and rule, all our politicians must serve another foreign master, one that despises and resents the very existence of the European genome, from there we have had unrestricted mass immigration forced into all our territories and only today some 70 years later are we allowed to barely begin to discuss it.

            http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/07/jews-the-ss-empire-windrush-and-the-origins-of-multicultural-britain/

          • William Bell

            If that’s true, then perhaps extinction of the European genome would be no great loss.

          • RWJetzt

            What a disgusting thing to say.

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            A typical belief of theirs, only rarely is it openly expressed.

  • Pierre Lemieux

    Let’s welcome the refugees. But then, don’t let the state infringe the liberty of simple citizens (yes, sim.ple ci.ti.zens!) to carry guns for their self-defense.

  • Heather

    We are feeling so badly for all of you in Europe right now. You brought your problems on yourself, we hate to blame but it is time to be honest. Be honest that different cultures are just that – DIFFERENT. What one culture thinks is a crime, another culture thinks is their right. I do not care if you are white, black or green. I do not care if you worship Jesus, the Sun or Spaghetti – hurting other people is NOT OK and when you put your blinders on and pretended that all people think alike you lied to yourself. It is out of control and we deserve the truth now. This lying to yourselves as you demonstrated in this article as the police in Cologne reporting that everything NYE was “joyous” is a REVERSE RACISISM. Can you not see the irony in the situation you have created. And, now every noble dream has backfired – PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEEDED HELP ARE MARGINALIZED, FEMALES BEING IN POLITICS HAS BECOME THE BIGGEST JOKE EVER (thanks to Merkel and the “arms length” mayor) and INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE BEING HURT AND KILLED DUE TO THE ANGER. I thank you for actually putting this article up. I want to see this more in mainstream media. Again, we feel sorry for you – the way out is going to be brutal. You are confronted with DIFFICULT DECISIONS we fear you are unwilling to make. There will be more suffering.

    • LE

      There would be no refugee crisis if the US had not been destabilizing the region for decades. We did not bring this’ll on ourselves, but took responsibility for what ought in the end be your problem.

      • http://www.RogueNaturopath.com/ Rogue Naturopath.com

        Don’t confuse the people’s wishes from that of their government. Also, people do the best to decide what to support based on the information they receive from whatever their source is. Yeah, the US government is horrific, but it doesn’t mean that we stand with them. Unfortunately, many are still being manipulated by the mass media.

      • Lindum

        The Moslim world expands at about 100,000 per day. This alone is a substantial problem which pushes them into surrounding areas.

        • William Bell

          That may be a necessary factor, but it isn’t sufficient. Mass migration is possible only into countries that allow it.

      • MrJones

        The population explosion in Africa and the ME is one half combined with the EU’s desire to replace Europeans.

        The refugees were already in refugee camps neighboring the war zone close to their homes – which is the best place for refugees – and are only being used by the political and media class as propaganda.

        The key point is the Europhile political and media class wants to replace Europeans.

        Google it. The EU have been talking about importing 100s of millions of immigrants for years.

      • Flintshire Ian

        So the Sunni v. Shia wars were started by the US about a thousand years before American Independence?
        And the inability to live in peace alongside any other religious group. Is that the fault of the US as well?

        • Heather

          Forgive me for adding to the sarcasm but in the views of some YES, everything is the white mans fault…..again, not accurate and when people view it like this we can not be honest, just get overly emotional and fight each other.

          • Nanoaggressive

            In the views of some, history does not exist prior to the Ottoman Empire’s collapse.

      • Heather

        I appreciate your response. It reminds me not to be so quick to see things one sided. As an American, I do not agree with many of our foreign policies and most people I know would say the same. However, this did make our allies in the EU have poor immigration policies. If you wanted to replace the declining population MIGRATE CHINESE, or one of many other cultures that could have peacefully added to your countries. I am sorry to sit behind a computer in my comfortable life and say this but there was no way this could have ever worked in your favor. The cultures are too different.

      • Nanoaggressive

        Hijra

        the Islamic imperative to invade non-Muslim lands and establish Islamic rule.

        Nothing to do with America.

      • William Bell

        We can’t control your borders for you. Don’t blame anyone but yourselves for problems caused by migrants that you allowed in.

        • ShoeEventHorizon

          Jewish involvement in the promotion of ‘hate speech’ laws, multiculturalism, mass immigration, denationalization, subversion of traditional values, and related items…

          http://balder.org/imbri

  • Heather
  • Heather

    Supposedly a video from NYE, 18 seconds, Worth watching for a reality check: https://youtu.be/KKu6Y7FtgF4

    • James Michael fuqua

      Holy crap! That’s one scary scenario. I can’t believe the German people aren’t burning the place to the ground! I live in America and I couldn’t imagine a single person not opening fire on that crowd of animals, but I understand that there were no dead bodies in the streets after that, or after any of the nye attacks. If that happened in my community there would be dead refugees, dead cops, and the ones that weren’t killed that night would be hunted down and killed in the following days. I feel so sorry for those girls and I wonder why the German men are protesting when they should be killing their leaders and every Muslim they come across. It’s shameful and cowardly.

      • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

        Yes – mass murder and vigilantism is the way forward. Dead bodies everywhere is certainly the way to go…… or is it?

        • Ovidiu Lazar

          You’re mixing mass murder with self defense.

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            Yeah you do tend to get those two things confused a lot don’t you.

            https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWByil1CQAARbyx.jpg

          • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

            From a man living in a country which has five times the murder rate of any west European nation…. Very amusing. We don’t need your advice. YOU need ours and tens of thousands of your citizens might survive the next year.

          • Ovidiu Lazar

            And what would that advice be?

        • James Michael fuqua

          Well letting them in, giving them money, homes, jobs and medical care didn’t engratiate them, so what is the way forward. They obviously want to rape so let them do that too? The proper response to a rape mob of any color is a withering lethal attack. If you aren’t capable of that then get out of the way you coward.

          • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

            Ha ha ha ha ha. Big tough guy Eh? More likely skinny wannabe vigilate, big mouthed, no brained gobsh| te….

      • Jaycasey

        in the US the police would have been all over this – cracking heads – and heads that deserved cracking. We don’t need gun-toting fools because our police are not passive. Not saying this is always good but in a case like Cologne it would be

        • James Michael fuqua

          Gun toting fools? You obviously think that arming yourself is foolish. How could you get that idea from everything that’s being discussed. Your freedom is won and protected by those gun toting fools. Your an idiot and part of the problem. What would happen if you called the police and they showed up with no guns? You would be a helpless nothing. I feel sorry for your family and loved ones that may need your protection. Your tax dollars buy a lot of guns and ammo. So who’s the fool. The man with no gun. The dead man. The man crying over his dead wife and children. Or the gun toter?

    • Rick Roll

      0:15 The German for No Smoking is Nicht Rauchen. This type of misdirection is not helpful. Just stick to facts. They are bad enough.

      • rlewis12

        I’m often in Cologne and know the area around the station quite well.
        Although it has a nice front facing the Dom, the back areas of the station towards the bus station and the carparks are grubby
        and not places to hang about in. There are often groups of young males hanging around by the concrete pillars. This looks like one of the entrances to
        or from the underground car parks in the Kostgasse to the north-east of
        the station. I parked there in October and can confirm the grubbiness and the graffiti, some of it in Arabic as in the video.

        Btw, notices in English in public places in Germany are very, very common.

        • RWJetzt

          ‘groups of young males’ Sounds like you’re referring to a touch of enriching diversity?

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            “Youths”

            “Asians”

            “Teenagers”

            We’re going to have to deport them all sooner or later so we might as well just start getting on with it now.

            Invaders not welcome on European soil (inc North America/Australia etc).

            Invaders out. Their enablers imprisoned for treason/attempted genocide/crimes against humanity.

            Problem solved.

        • Rick Roll

          Apologies if I’m wrong. This video popped up after the NYE debacle, and there has been much discussion as to its provenance and validity. Some say it’s been around for a while.

          I think you’ll agree it’s not helpful to present dubious or misleading propaganda when the truth is more than enough to tell the horrid story? It’s a truly shocking video.

    • Vinnie

      This is Tahir Square in Egypt. People keep posting this but it’s wrong.

      • Heather

        I do not know if this video is from the Cologne NYE attack, sorry, I have no way of verifying this BUT obviously this was what it was like. The amount of attacks is somewhere around 550 now (fact check, i can not remember) I think we have to see these things for us to really get what is going on.

        • Penny

          As I’ve just said above – I don’t see how this can be the Cologne attack, Heather. It’s pretty cold in Germany at this time of year but none of these people are wearing coats. It looks to have been an incident that took place in the summer.

      • Penny

        I think you’re right, Vinnie – I don’t think this is Cologne. The clothes these people are wearing don’t suggest “December night”! They appear to be in summer attire.

      • Jaycasey

        so much careless and fake videos going around. You can’t believe anything you see anymore

  • Mike Johnson

    Interesting article

  • cartimandua

    The answer is to do what the Romans did. Create auxiliary legions to pacify and nation build.
    Citizenship was awarded to those who served loyally and with distinction for a period of time.
    Those young migrant men should earn being in Europe and while earning it they would be obliged to understand and adopt western values.

    It is a disgusting thought that our young men may be sent to sort out their countries at great risk while they are here abusing western women.

    Being here should be at high cost and risk to the migrant NOT the host countries.
    All those leaping onto lorries should be fighting IS. They obviously are fit and daring enough.
    They just need a structure.

    • flydlbee

      No, we don’t want that kind of person in the Army.

      • cartimandua

        We are already doing it and have done it in Afghanistan. No one should just turn up here for everything free while our soldiers are put in harms way to sort out their country.

    • Colin Lonie

      Did they not try and train Muslims in Cambridge? Look how that turned out. Rapie rapie

      • Airey Belvoir

        …and all still here, having claimed asylum!

        • cartimandua

          I thought those Libyans were booted out.

          • Airey Belvoir

            The ones jailed claimed they would suffer reprisals if sent home, shaming Libya etc,so Bingo! Asylum.

          • Colin Lonie

            this country is a sad joke, we are on the road to the 3 world

          • In2minds

            Or you could say ‘they’ from the third world are on the road to here!

      • cartimandua

        They should be trained “over there” not here. Have you seen the gym bunny arms on some asylum seekers? They are not librarians.

  • PrinceofWhitebread

    Second Amendment from us blood-thirsty, backwards Americans. If some of these women had been armed and shot dead one or two of the “Not to be identified in any way that would harm the ruling elites” attackers, the stupid savage bastards might find other outlets for their feelings of being oppressed.

    • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

      LOL – take a look at your homicide figures and compare to the Swedish ones.

      • William Bell

        Don’t know how it compares with Sweden’s, but the US intentional homicide rate is in a three-way tie for 107th in the world, last time I checked, a few days ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

        • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

          It’s FIVE TIMES the rate of more or less any western European nation. I exclude Russia and the Balkans there. Sweden’s intentional homicide rate is 0.89 per hundred thousand of population; yours is 5 per hundred thousand.

          • William Bell

            The Swedes have apparently lost the spirit that inspired their Viking ancestors. They enjoy a low homicide rate but stand aside sheepishly as their homeland is swarmed by rapacious migrants.

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            What happened to Sweden between 1945 and now?

            The very same thing that all our European countries have suffered from since the war.

            Who did this to us?

            Why do you gloat so much at the calculated genocide of the European people?

          • William Bell

            I’m not gloating.

          • William Bell

            If, through clever sophistry, A convinces B, a mentally-competent adult, that he has a moral obligation to jump from the top of a tall building and B subsequently does just that, who is primarily to blame for B’s death? I would say B.

      • Nanoaggressive

        Take a look at the demographics. America has a Black problem. Blacks don’t even need Islam to be violent.

        Sweden has imported organized terrorism. Every Muslim that follows Mohammad commands and example are pure evil, just like Mohammad.

        • William Bell

          African Americans comprise 13 percent of the US population and commit just shy of half the murders.

  • Junis

    The Cologne attacks were a hoax/false flag because of this: No alternative media Youtube videos about it were uploaded before 04/02/16. Why?
    https://goo.gl/Zh96gA (Youtube search results before on and before 03/01/16)
    https://goo.gl/CAxdV5 (Youtube search results after 04/01/16)

    • colchar

      You’re a special kind of stupid aren’t you? And yes, that was a rhetorical question.

  • Michael

    This article is very correct but it is even worse which going on. The populous with a mixture of brainwashing and self censorship filter these horrendous crimes so as not hurt migrants feelings. One cannot discuss this in a work scenario till exempel without the racist label and your job being at risk.
    Coming from a free English speaking country it is quite scary and a little orwellian to live here.
    Instead of honest open dialogue and concrete actions to stop these crimes we are told to accept and ignore it.
    The Swedish mentality of fairness and equality which made Sweden successful is now destroying it.

    There is more support for the Sweden Democrats which is hopeful but the media here are nuts with being PC and hate the Sweden Democrats and compare them to the Nazis which is strange for me as SD are quite mild and reasonable in their policies.

    • Mow_the_Moser

      “…the media here are nuts with being PC and hate the Sweden Democrats and compare them to the Nazis…”

      Bonnier Group

      The Nordic region’s LEADING MEDIA COMPANY has over 200 years of record in the media industry. Their operations include TV, newspapers, business press, magazines, film production, books, commercial radio and digital media.
      http://www.mediachange.info/en/People/Hans_Jacob_Bonnier_on_family_business_You_have_to_be_good_friends_have_trust_in_each_other_and_let_the_best_get_to_the_top

      Publishers Weekly, 25 June 2012

      Global Publishing Leaders 2012: Bonnier

      The Bonnier Group is a [Jewish] family-owned international media group based in SWEDEN. It comprises approximately 175 companies and operates in more than 20 countries.

      Operations cover most media formats and are divided into five business areas: Books, Magazine Group, Business Press, Newspapers, and Broadcasting & Entertainment.
      http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/financial-reporting/article/52683-global-publishing-leaders-2012-bonnier.html
      http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/63017-global-publishing-leaders-2014-bonnier.html

      BONNIER.com
      http://www.bonnier.com/companies-brands/
      http://www.bonnier.com/en/about-us/board-management/#top-management

      DN.se, 19 December 2014

      Jeanette Bonnier, Bonnier Group

      …my family has Jewish roots…there is a group feeling when you are with a group of Jews. There is a cohesion and a group feeling that is …comfortable…my mother was Jewish.
      http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/jeanette-bonnier-slakten-far-inte-arva-mina-andelar/

      • ShoeEventHorizon

        Interesting to see that Sweden;s media is under the same control as all ours across the West, yet the media has throughout the past 70 years been covering up the crimes committed agauinst the natives, yet only now some 60-70 years later do the jewish media now talk about it.

        I wonder what could be the secret factor behind this sudden change of heart in telling just part of the truth to the goyim masses?

        • Airey Belvoir

          One problem is that the Swediah Government subsidises the Press, which gives them leverage.

        • cartimandua

          No it isn’t.
          Jews do not control Russian billionaires, Catholic Barclay brothers or wee free Murdoch

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            So you bring up Russian jewish oligarchs, Zionist Barclay brothers who along with the other elites sold out their nation and people for a few shekels more and finally cite Murdoch, a man who has cheered on every nation wrecking scheme the kultural Marxists promote and while having a rather sketchy background (he has madfe great efforts to obfuscate his background) has only ever championed every zionist war and aim since he stained our collective consciences with his zionist propaganda.

            There’s plenty written on his background though nothing concrete, his behaviour and abominable actions to date mark him out as a member of the tribe .

          • cartimandua

            Lebedev is KGB, The Barclays are CATHOLIC, and Murdoch is wee free (Protestant).
            Big fat fail for your Zionist bs.

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            Lebedev is KGB who are the jewish soviet security agency.

            The Barclays are openly zionist as is Murdoch who not only carefully went to great leangths to cover up his lineage but is also openly zionist.

            Yet here you are after having spent years pretending the devil doesn’t exist OY VEY!, while pretending you are Saxon with a lineage dating back to around when Cromwell let them all back in…

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            None of us are privy to what really goes on behind the scenes or what the real “elite” allegiances are.

            All evidence suggests that what Shoe says is far more accurate and likely than your JIDF crib sheet lies and misinformation.

            Can’t you up your game a little? It’s like 2008 groundhog day forever with you guys.

      • Dr_Eigenvector

        Jewish

        Every. Damn. Time.

        • cartimandua

          Er no Murdoch is wee free, Barclays are Pope dopes, The indy is owned by a Russian.

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            Fishing for JIDF.

            “Fish on!”

          • cartimandua

            I don’t even know what that is you loser. If I was Jewish I would be open and proud of it.
            As it is I am proud of being an English woman with Cornish and Scottish genes.

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            an English woman with Cornish and Scottish genes

            Sure.

          • ShoeEventHorizon

            Murdoch’s Deeply Hidden Jewish Roots — A Biography

            By Christopher Bollyn – American Free Press

            At the helm of both organizations, the ADL and Fox News, is an Australian-born Zionist named Keith Rupert Murdoch.

            Murdoch’s Jewish Roots

            Murdoch “became an American citizen for business reasons,” according to Richard H. Curtiss, editor of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Keith Rupert was born in Melbourne, Australia, on March 11, 1931. “Rupert’s father, Sir Keith Murdoch, was a newspaper publisher, and his mother an Orthodox Jew,” Curtiss wrote, “although Murdoch never offers that information in his biographies.”

            Murdoch’s father married Elisabeth Joy Greene, daughter of Rupert Greene in 1928. They had one son, Keith Rupert and three daughters. Later in life, Keith Rupert chose to use Rupert, the first name of his Jewish maternal grandfather.

            The young Keith Rupert was educated at Australia’s fashionable Geelong private school, and went on to the elitist and aristocratic Oxford University in England, according to Candour (UK) magazine.

            “Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town,” Candour wrote in 1984. “For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew.”

            While Murdoch may have “tried to hide” his Jewish roots, he has been quite forthright about his support for extreme right-wing Zionists, such as Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon.

            Netanyahu, who wrote a book entitled The War on Terror: How the West Can Win in 1986, is a frequent commentator on Murdoch’s Fox News.

            Murdoch’s support for Zionism extremists is well known and a matter of record. As New York Governor George Pataki said, “There is no newspaper in the U.S. more supportive of Israel than the [Murdoch’s] New York Post.”

          • cartimandua

            Murdoch is wee free which because you are so very stupid I will explain is a very plain sort of Protestant sect. He has flirted with Catholicism.

      • Michael

        This is the confusion going on in Sweden today …. to support the people on the fringes of society and help them but the middle eastern culture and religion say they are better and we should change.

        And the liberal media censor themselves for the greater good. Condemning and labeling fellow Swedes for expressing concern and saying there is no fire.

  • Patricia

    “… immigration cannot be discussed frankly in Sweden. If you mention anything negative about refugees or immigration, you’re accused of playing into the hands of the reviled far-right. … even legitimate concerns are silenced or labelled xenophobic.”
    The same is true of the UK. Facts are not racist.

    • Jaycasey

      this is quite true I must say

  • ShoeEventHorizon

    Not only Germany, Colonge, Rotherham but Leicester, Birmingham, London since the 1950’s in England with forced mass invasion of West Indians which kicked off massive riots at the time in Notting Hill which was the incident that began the communist anti-white carnival to rub the natives faces in it.

    ======

    While the famed Notting Hill Race Riots of 1958 are often pointed to as an example of Black victimhood and the need for a Black reaction against White ‘oppression,’ the riots were instead the culmination of White reactions against Black crime and miscegenation.

    Earlier in 1958 the Eugenics Society, now the Galton Institute, issued warnings that the mingling of races that had started in Britain “ran counter to the great developing pattern of human evolution” and attacked the United Nations for minimizing the “quite obvious dissimilarities between people and individuals.

    ”[20] The Notting Hill riots, occurring a decade after the arrival of Empire Windrush, were seeded one August evening when White youths intervened in an argument between a Swedish prostitute and her Black ‘husband’ Raymond Morrison. A brawl broke out between the youths and Morrison’s friends. The following day some of the White youths verbally assaulted the Swede for being a “Black man’s trollop.” The White youths then assembled between three and four hundred fellows to begin a violent demonstration against Black criminality, resulting in six days and nights of almost uninterrupted inter-ethnic warfare.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/07/jews-the-ss-empire-windrush-and-the-origins-of-multicultural-britain/

  • moraywatson

    So telling the truth would play into the hands of those who are already telling those truths ???!!!! I think it is obvious who the real bigots in Sweden are.

  • Doug

    More insanity in Sweden – the Swedish government is funding sharp-shooting courses for recently arrive “migrants”.

    http://newobserveronline.com/sweden-state-funded-muslim-sniper-training/

    • Jimmy Marr

      I can’t believe this. It’s 2016, and those poor muds still haven’t been provided with telescopic scopes for their rifles. Now wonder they feel compelled to rape European women. They’re entirely justified.

    • Nick Danger

      Train them as snipers, give them guns and a sandwich, and dump them back in Syria.

  • Nobama

    You must sleep in the bed that you make.

    • sandspoint

      I say burn the bed!!!

  • sandspoint

    Is it only me or the powers that rule these countries are they purposely cutting there own throats?

    • Jimmy Marr

      You’ve misspelled “there”, which is unimportant. What is important is the realization that “they” do not see the throats they are cutting as being “theirs”. They have a back-up nation. “We” have provided it for them while allowing “ours” to be destroyed by “them”.

      • Jimmy Marr

        Find the crux of the we/them divide and geopolitics will begin to make sense. Until then it’s totally bewildering.

        • Jimmy Marr

          “They” look like “us”. “They” occupy “us” by means of crypsis. All the obvious others they flood “us” with are designed to increase “their” ostensible sameness. “Diversity” is a code word for “their” racial camouflage.

    • RWJetzt

      IT’s not suicide. It’s ethnocide, perpetrated by a very special interest group, a very particular powerful minority.

    • Dom Reidman

      It surely will back fire on them. You have to think they already see writing on wall.

  • Colin Lonie

    Germany like the UK is under the boot of ZOG, you will! take 1 million young rapie men to destroy your country, all along the plan of zee controllers.

  • barryjr

    You Swedes are a bunch of retarded sycophants allowing the rape of your women by foreign terrorists and not calling them what they are for fear hurting the terrorists feelings. You and your women deserve whatever they get if you don’t have the courage to protect yourself.

  • Heather
  • Heather
    • Jaycasey

      Geller is not a credible source of information

      • Dr_Eigenvector

        She’s a lying, counter Jihad Jew, leading her faithful, dumb Goyim folllowers over the cliff.

        Well said, Sir.

        • Jaycasey

          a complement from the likes of you is not welcome

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            You are a coward and a moral pygmy.

            Please, don’t even think about getting on your high horse with me.

            “Racist spectrum!” ffs

      • RWJetzt

        First sensible thing you’ve said all day! And I agree with you totally: she needs to be deported along with the rest of the non-whites (preferably to the same location).

        • Jaycasey

          I don’t need complements from racists, thank you

          • RWJetzt

            Waaayyyyythhhiiittttthhhtttttt! What a clever Jewish activist it was who invented that word, so that you could label your (in reality, his) political adversaries, whose intellect and skills in rhetoric invariably far trump your own, a word designed to silence him and make unacceptable for Whites the basic instinct of acting in the group’s interests which is given to any other race on the planet. Of course, with the entire apparatus of the bought and paid for mass media also promoting the ‘evils’ of Whitey acting in such a way, it allows the terminally thick such as yourself to bask in a glow of unearnt moral superiority as your country is invaded by the true enemy’s pawns, and for you to convince yourself you’re capable of debating your regurgitated opinions with anyone.

            Unfortunately, we’re so far gone that even the broad masses are starting to refuse to allow magical silencing words to silence them any longer. Call me a racist, a fascist, an anti-Semite; I wear the terms with pride. You can’t refute anything I say, all you can do is bark the money power’s memes with unerring conviction and let those capable of forming their own opinions marvel at just how stupid you are.

    • Mike Johnson

      Geller is trash stirring up the Goy to fight the jews war

      • Heather

        Thanks – I appreciate that. It is hard to know where to get sources these days.

        • Mike Johnson

          The jewish neocons/zionist in America are the main reason for the Iraq war. Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Michael Ledeen are just a few to research.

          The transparent cabal

          The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel

          by Stephen J. Sniegoski

          http://www.libertarianismo.org/livros/StephanSniegoski_TheTransparentCabal.pdf

          https://www.independent.org/pdf/tir/tir_14_03_08_kwiatkowski.pdf

          Pgs 56 -57

          To reiterate the central point of this chapter: the vision of “regime change” in the Middle East through external, militant action originated in Israel, and its sole purpose was to advance the security interests of Israel. It had nothing to do with bringing “democracy” to Muslims. It hadnothing to do with any terrorist threat to the United States. These latter

          arguments accredited to the idea of regime change as the primary military

          actor changed from Israel to the United States.

        • RWJetzt

          Don’t we know it!

          This is an excellent blog site, rigorously referenced, which gives you views on the situation from a British perspective. Tons of reading gold on there – and with Disqus.

          http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.co.uk

  • Heather
  • Heather
    • Vinnie

      This one is in France. This is one actually sickens me. And this happens in the States EVERY DAMN DAY.
      Check out Colin Flaherty for the race war going on in the US right now.

    • RWJetzt

      Low IQ savages, brought in with the specific purpose of destroying the European peoples.

      Not that the (((liberal))) media will ever publicise any of this, they’re too busy complaining about the White devil and trying to dispossess him of more of his remaining positions of authority in media, politics, and academia.

      The Agenda(TM) wants white women to breed with these people, that’s why every advert you see features white female black male. All part of the Coudenhove Kalergi Plan. Thanks Jews!

      • cartimandua

        Its not a plan. Its London centric right on media.

        • Dr_Eigenvector

          ^ being this gullible

      • Jaycasey

        your comments go too far into the racist spectrum

        • Dr_Eigenvector

          Grow some balls, cuck.

          • Jaycasey

            I wish I could have you say that to my face. I’d love to respond in person.

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            Blah, blah, internet hard man, yeah yeah.

            You’re still a nutless cuck, son.

            It’s 2016, no one cares about “waythist” “bigot” “waythism” any more.

            Take it to the Morning Star.

          • Jaycasey

            Eigenvector, you are obviously a loathsome jerk so full of yourself that you have to put a fake “Dr.” in front of your name. No sane person buys into your childish bluster. It turns out you’re nothing more than a troll.

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            Truth hurts, huh?

          • Jaycasey

            learn to spell

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            Learn to defend your folk and stop being a fa@@ot.

      • Colin Lonie

        The Jews are our friends dont you know! and had nothing to do with 911, shush…

        • Dr_Eigenvector

          Christ, don’t mention Mossad/Israel’s links to9/11, whatever you do.

          That’s a rabbi hole we most definitely don’t want to go down here.

          • Colin Lonie

            Is that a black rabbi hole too far?

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            damn auto-correct

    • Frank Marker

      That is vile and disturbing. Can someone please translate what that so-called ‘man’ says at the end?

      • RWJetzt

        He says ‘ca, vraiment, c’est du lourd!’ which translates roughly as, ‘that, really, that’s HEAVY!’.

        • Frank Marker

          Thanks.

  • JJJJones

    Says on here that the man who raped 21 year old virgin was an asylum seeker:
    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/toxteth-rape-victim-tells-horror-10718271

    • ShoeEventHorizon

      Given ten years and may only serve just 5 to then be given a free lifetime of subsidies and welfare paid for by the hard-working English m̶u̶g̶s̶ taxpayers.

  • Jaycasey

    Sweden has gone too far into the PC quicksand – bending over backwards not to offend the feelings of all those who seek to take advantage of them. It’s gotten to the point now that they are so open minded their brains have fallen out. The authorities have hidden the facts by refusing to do research or keep records on who is causing trouble and to what extent. The ruling coalition is so afraid of empowering the Sweden Democrats that they (and their media) have colluded to hide the facts from the citizenry. As a result, some migrants have gotten away with abusing their hosts while the spineless Swedes stand aside and allow their fellow Swedes to be abused – least the perpetrators feelings be harmed. This whole topic is almost entirely missing in the Swedish media and comments are never allowed. Hush hush says the government. However, there has to be a reasonable place in the middle of the political extremes.

  • Mow_the_Moser

    “Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. JEWS ARE GOING TO BE AT THE CENTER OF THAT. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of OUR LEADING ROLE. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.” – Barbara Lerner Spectre, Zionist Jew
    http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/comment/149678/the-real-refugee-problem-bigotry

    Barbara Lerner Spectre is a Zionist Jew who made aliyah from the United States to the JEWS-ONLY* State of Israel. In 1999, she immigrated to Sweden. She is the founding director of Paideia.
    http://reshetramah.org/marriages/lerner-spectre/
    http://web.archive.org/web/20140820153442/http://www.paideia-eu.org/about/organization/staff/

    Paideia is financed by the European Jewish Fund which is based in ISRAEL.
    http://www.europeanjewishfund.org/index.php?/content/contact
    http://www.europeanjewishfund.org/index.php?/projects/projects_full/stiftelsen_paideia_sweden/
    http://www.europeanjewishfund.org/index.php?/news/february_21_2010/

    The European Jewish Fund states on its website that it is opposed to JEWISH ASSIMILATION.

    European Jewish Fund

    About The EJF

    ASSIMILATION is without a doubt an EXISTENTIAL THREAT…that is becoming ever graver. The threat must be addressed in a serious manner with programmes that are aimed at reconnecting people with Jewish life.
    http://www.europeanjewishfund.org/index.php?/content/about

    * “Israel is the nation-state of the JEWS ONLY.” – Benjamin Netanyahu
    http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-There-is-an-effort-to-undermine-the-Jews-right-to-their-own-state-382895

    • ShoeEventHorizon

      So according to them, multiculturalism is a blessing they have brought unto us Europeans yet by their own assessment it’s a genocidal attack when made against them?

      Yet it was always designed to undermine and displace the natives, then they cry foul when we point out their role in flooding all our nations with unrestricted immigration.

      It’s all so confusing and contradictory, we need a Talmudic scholarly rabbi to explain this bent logic to us dumb goyim properly.

      • Penny

        You know – I think you and your chums are trying to get yourselves banned.

        • Dr_Eigenvector

          ^ so cuckservative

          • Penny

            But not inaccurate?

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            Refute what we say if we’re wrong.

            Should be easy for the likes of you, yes?

          • Penny

            I wish it were. But it would involve teaching you to research and employ some critical thinking. I don’t have that kind of time.

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            Go for it.

            Make the time.

            Release us.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P35H-aKmr0A

          • Penny

            I’ve not got years to spare.

          • Mike Johnson

            Its ok your progeny will continue to fight wars for israels gain like in Iraq and Syria.

          • Penny

            There are 196 countries in the world, Mike. Your focus appears to be narrowed down to America, Israel and possibly some of those in Europe. You might benefit from looking at what the others say and do.

          • Mike Johnson

            I am an American of Scot descent and an US Army veteran I have thoroughly researched the subject of the Iraq war.and have many main stream sources quoting American officials Generals, and history scholars. I also keep up with world events why do you think I am visiting an UK media sources comment section.

          • Penny

            But that’s not what I said, Mike. Everything you post seems to be about particular countries, when in fact, if you listen to what, say, Arab politicians say, you get another perspective.

          • Mike Johnson

            I do listen to what the Arab and Iranian politicians say I also watch what they do as in Turkey and Saudi Arabia when they fund ISIS and Al Qaeda. It is ok for America and the UK to put blood and treasure in the fight against Middle East terrorism but not the Israelis. It is their back yard nt ours.

          • Penny

            Mike – I’ve lived in the Middle East. I don’t know where you get your information but it probably isn’t in Arabic. And that’s fine – there are translations. But listening to what they tell the West is very different from what they tell their own people.

          • Mike Johnson

            Sure you have lived in the Middle East most likely israel. When israel puts troops in Iraq or Afghanistan alongside American and UK troops don’t give me the israel is Americas ally. Keep trying to sway the truth. I know the arabs are bad actors but it is not America or the UK’s job to fight israels battles. If israel wants war with iran or Assad overthrown in syria let them do it stop trying to get America to do it all.

          • Penny

            You’re doing it again, Mike. Focusing on Israel. My husband is actually from Egypt, and is of Syrian heritage. There’s more to the middle east than a country the size of Wales – half of that desert.

          • Mike Johnson

            You are welcome to your opinion as I am mine my research is from reputable sources when israel puts skin in the game with America I will stop. It is my country which I served Their lying Prime Minister and AIPAC have repeatedly tried to get my country involved in a conflict with iran. Israels Prime Minister tried to talk Bush into bombing Syria before the Syrian civil war began. Bush and Robert Gates who was Secretary of Defense both wrote about it in their books. Stop defending a country that tries to get mine to spread chaos in the Middle East.

          • Penny

            I don’t know what “skin in the game” means, Mike. But I am not sure why you’re telling me to stop “defending” Israel. I’ve not really mentioned it beyond pointing out that things are seen differently when you’re not in the West. I am always intrigued by the focus on certain countries. It’s as if the others don’t even exist, or have a foreign policy, or any input into global affiars.

          • Mike Johnson

            Skin in the game means put troops in the fight . You have no idea how AIPAC pushed for America to invade Iraq but when the war started and lasted a decade no Israeli troops were involved of course

          • Penny

            Fair enough. But did they have to push hard? (genuine question) My perspective from seeing how it panned out here in the UK was that Blair, Bush (and his dad) didn’t need a great deal of encouragement.

            For the record: I was not in favour of this war. The only sensible thing I heard one politican ever say, by way of caution, was (paraphrased) that we didn’t understand the Arab mindset.

          • Mike Johnson

            ‘Iraq Was Invaded to Secure Israel,’ Says Senator Hollings

            By Mark Weber

            July 16, 2004

            http://www.ihr.org/news/040716_hollings.shtml

            When a prominent American political figure speaks boldly about Jewish-Zionist power, that’s news. So the remarks by South Carolina’s senior Senator in May 2004 that Iraq was invaded “to secure Israel,” and that “everybody” in Washington knows it, are indeed remarkable.

            ——————————————————————————————————————————–

            Michael Ledeen

            http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Michael_Ledeen

            Six months before the 2003 reinvasion of Iraq, the egregious neocon Michael Ledeen wrote: “We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, Syria Lebanon and even Saudi Arabia; we want things to change. The real issue is not whether, but how to destabilize.” Clearly, a cynical travesty of Schumpeter’s “creative destruction” has become the motto for a breed of militaristic ideologues whose element is chaos.

          • Mow_the_Moser

            Congressional Record

            House of Representatives – September 22, 2005

            Page H8337

            “Stability is an unworthy American mission and a misleading concept to boot…We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, SYRIA, Lebanon, or even Saudi Arabia. We want things to change. The issue is not whether but how to DESTABILIZE.” – Michael Ledeen, Jewish former U.S. Under Secretary of State
            https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2005/9/22/house-section/article/h8332-1

            Michael Ledeen was a founding member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) and serves on the JINSA Board of Advisors.
            http://zoa.org/2008/06/101480-former-defense-under-secretary-douglas-feith-iran-scholar-michael-ledeen-u-s-congressman-jim-saxton-senator-joe-lieberman-other-congresspersons-to-address-zoa-mission/#ixzz34ayouIuV
            http://www.jinsa.org/

            Congressional Record

            House of Representatives – September 22, 2005

            Page H8333

            …in 1982 a [Jewish] man named Oded Yinon accentuated the usefulness of INTERNAL STRIFE and war with Iraq to foster the demise of Iraq as an Arab state. He notice that in the short run, it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to ISRAEL and that a division of Iraq into provinces along ethnic religious lines is possible. So three more states will exist around the major cities: Basra in the south; Baghdad in the middle; Mosul in the north; and Shiite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north.
            https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2005/9/22/house-section/article/h8332-1

          • Penny

            OK – but here’s where I think we have a fork in the road. You’ve posted a source and names – that’s fine. But my experience has taught me that there is more than a couple of names and sources to a story. It’s like taking everything Barbara whatshername says as meaningful when she is but one woman who can’t seriously have much impact on the entire machinery of the EU and beyond.

            . So, I look into these things in more depth. I’ll look at what you’ve linked to but I want to know more so I get all sides to a story.

          • Mike Johnson

            Read what Mow the Moser has for sources they are actual Congressional sources.

            Here is the well known American neocon William Kristol speaking to Congress neocons are overwhelmingly jewish

            ——————————————————————————————————————-

            Testimony of

            William Kristol

            Chairman, Project for the New American Century

            To the Senate Foreign Relations Committee

            February 7, 2002

            http://avalon.law.yale.edu/sept11/kristol.asp

            Thank you, Chairman Biden, Senator Helms, and members of the committee, for inviting me to testify before you today. You have asked me to address the question, “WhatÂ’s next in the war on terrorism?”

            The short answer is that Iraq is next. I am not simply saying that Iraq should be next – although I think it should be. I am rather drawing a straightforward conclusion from President Bush’s State of the Union speech, and from the logic of the war itself. The president sees this war differently from our European allies and differently, I think, from the way his predecessor or even his father might have seen it. The president has chosen to build a new world, not to rebuild the old one that existed before September 11, 2001. And after uprooting al Qaeda from Afghanistan, removing Saddam Hussein from power is the key step to building a freer, safer, more peaceful future.

            ————————————————————————————————————–

            The GOP Should Always Do the Opposite of What Bill Kristol Says

            http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-gop-should-always-do-the-opposite-of-what-bill-kristol-says/267362/#article-comments

            Fool Me Once

            Paul Wolfowitz, Bill Kristol, and their fellow neocons botched Iraq. Now they want to tell you what they think. Ignore them.

            By Jamelle Bouie

            http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/06/paul_wolfowitz_bill_kristol_and_douglas_feith_should_be_ignored_the_neocons.html

            ———————————————————————————————————————————-

            White Man’s Burden

            Ari Shavit Apr 03, 2003

            The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible. But another journalist, Thomas Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical

            read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/fe

          • Penny

            Mike – that wouldn’t be enough for me. When I’m trying to find the truth about any important issue I think it best to get forensic. I look at all sides and in some depth. It’s not “me” to take the word or the view of anyone without knowing who they are, what they’ve said in the past, what the original source is – and so on..

            I’ve seen videos doctored, bits cut out of quotes or speeches so that the context is altered, pictures posted of places (often Syria) made out to be elsewhere. I’ve seen people taken in because someone banging on about the ME has the title “Dr. So-and-so”. But if his subject is French, why is he likely to be any kind of expert on the region? It’s only when you look him up that you realise he has no background in ME affairs whatsoever – it’s just his opinion.

            In this age of instant communication and 24hr news, people can be mislead. I try to make sure I’m not one of them.

          • Mow_the_Moser

            Forward, 20 September 2012

            Neocons Gather To Fete [Jewish] Iraq War Godfather [and convicted Holocaust Denier] Bernard Lewis

            Paul Wolfowitz, the [Jewish] Bush administration Pentagon official who pushed hard for an invasion of Iraq in 2003, chatted during cocktail hour with Judith Miller, the former New York Times [Jewish] reporter whose discredited reports on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq whipped up support for that invasion.
            http://forward.com/news/163089/neocons-gather-to-fete-iraq-war-godfather-bernard/#ixzz3kjWaTn88
            http://www.businessinsider.com/disgraced-nyt-war-reporter-judith-miller-joins-conservative-mag-newsmax-2010-12?IR=T

            Daily Telegraph, 15 February 2004

            The key factor to [convicted Holocaust denier] Lewis’s rise is that it has always been the power-brokers who have come to him, to learn at his knee, or – in the words of one of them – “to visit Delphi”, never he who has ingratiated himself with them. For all his British background, it is in America that the [Holocaust-denying] professor has most influence. Richard Perle, the [Jewish] former Defence Policy Board chairman, Paul Wolfowitz, the [Jewish] Deputy Defence Secretary, Elliott Abrams, the [Jewish] National Security Council Middle East chief, all have known and admired and sought to learn about the Middle East from [convicted Holocaust denier] Lewis since the 1970s…

            President Bush was seen carrying articles by [convicted Holocaust denier] Lewis to a meeting in the Oval Office soon after September 11…Only eight days after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, [convicted Holocaust denier] Lewis was briefing Richard Perle’s Defence Policy Board…

            [The Jewish former Defence Policy Board chairman] Richard Perle is clear about his long-standing [Holocaust-denying] friend’s influence, saying “Bernard Lewis has been the most important intellectual influence countering the conventional wisdom on managing the conflict between radical Islam and the West”. [Jew] Henry Kissinger is keen to question [convicted Holocaust denier] Lewis on future policy. “Should we negotiate with Iran’s ayatollahs?” asked the ultimate negotiator at a speech [convicted Holocaust denier] Lewis gave at the Harvard Club last spring. “Certainly not!” came the response.
            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3602621/Profile-Professor-Bernard-Lewis.html

            The White House, November 2006

            President George W. Bush and Mrs. Laura Bush stand with the 2006 National Humanities Medal recipients in the Oval Office Thursday, Nov., 9, 2006. Pictured from left, they are:…[convicted Holocaust denier] Bernard Lewis…
            http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/11/images/20061109_p110906pm-0354-515h.html

            HAARETZ, 31 May 2013

            [Jewish historian Bernard Lewis’] revisionism on the Armenian question led to his being charged and tried in France for denial of genocide, a crime there, and in the mid-1990s, he was ordered by a French court to pay one franc in damages after losing a case.
            http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/this-day-in-jewish-history/this-day-in-jewish-history-a-historian-who-didn-t-support-the-invasion-of-iraq-is-born.premium-1.527001

          • Mike Johnson

            Just do research on the Neocons like the Kagans, Richard Perle, Wolfowitz, Wurmser, Ellioy Abrams, William Kristol

          • Penny

            Only if you do research in the opposite direction, too, Mike!

          • Mike Johnson

            You never gave any names, links, or sources for me to look at. The WMD’s reason for going into Iraq was totally debunked. Also Saddams links to Al Qaeda were debunked here is an official US Congress document

            September 22, 2005
            109th Congress, 1st Session
            Issue: Vol. 151, No. 120 — Daily Edition

            IRAQ
            (House of Representatives – September 22, 2005)

            [Pages H8332-H8337]
            From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office
            [www.gpo.gov]

            https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2005/9/22/house-section/article/h8332-1

          • Doug

            He/she/it won’t give you any links. It’s the standard technique, although actually more politely done than usual, of just rubbishing your evidence without ever offering a proper counter argument.

            It’s counter-productive to their side, though, because any casual reader will see this.

          • Penny

            Mike – you aren’t helpless. I’ve managed to find my way around the issues without someone having to give me directions all the time. Besides which, it’s better that way. If you find it yourself, you can’t be misled.

            And if I did – what would be the point anyway? One – you wouldn’t look. Two – you’d decide it was “hasbara”.

          • RWJetzt

            The ‘research’ in the opposite direction is everything you’re presented with in the media, every single day. The money power relies on being unseen, it creates the enemies for the foolish crowd and profits from the conflict it thereby causes. Jewish predominance in every aspect of Western cultural, moral, intellectual, and academic life is not a conspiracy theory – it’s a fact. You only need to do the most meagre amount of research to confirm everything we see here is in reality.

            Why, then, does saying it seem so shocking to you – as I believe I’m right in saying it does – and why have such ideas for so long being tarnished ‘conspiracy theories’? Because, as we repeatedly tell you, the mass media is in the hands of the aforementioned group. And, in virtually any other mass media outlet bar the Spectator, the commitment to freedom of speech thus only extends to speech that the Jews like.

            There is a very large, very complex agenda to everything that’s going on in the world at the moment, and whether you like it or not, Jewry is absolutely central to it. You say there are globalists – true enough. You point out the white traitors, yes, they are there too. You might even name a few Muslim leaders, hellbent on starting the war the political activity of the last 70 years has been edging us towards. But none of these groups would be able to achieve their malevolent ends without the racial alien, which pursues policies which makes its own prosperance – and indeed control – possible, to the detriment of the host organism, the State. No Jewry, no globalism. No Jewry, no multiculturalism. No Jewry, no international finance (the engine behind all of this). No Jewry, no feminism (not in the monstrous form we know it today, at least).

          • Penny

            No – I don’t take what I see in the media as fact. But I’ve noticed how selective some can be. What suits their confirmation bias will always be “true”, and what doesn’t is “propaganda”.

            I spent a bit of time looking at conspiracy forums. It’s odd, in my view, how a particular media outlet – let’s say the BBC – (as was the case with one forum) – can be so reviled and accused of heaven knows what by forum members – until it took a particular side in a conflict. Then suddenly, it was cited as a source! And the things they fell for were frightening and very easily disproved – much like the video on this site of – supposedly – the Cologne attacks.

            How many Jews do you personally know? You seem to dislike them so much that I can’t imagine there’s many you’d befriend.

          • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

            I don’t think Israel will ever be happy unless it is surrounded by ruins and ashes. The attempts to prevent an accommodation with Iran are an example with Netanyahu spreading his poison in the Senate. My greatest problem with this is that there will be a massive swarm of Middle Easterners coming through Turkey and the Mediterranean and because the useless southern Europeans in Italy and Greece are somehow genetically incapable of defending against the invasion by these unsuitable foreigners, Europe will have a monstrous problem – a problem greater even than the one we now have thanks to mad Frau Merkle inviting half the Middle East to turn up in Northern Europe. I have no doubt that in the UK our only answer will be to withdraw from the EU and re-equip our navy for rigorous border protection. Europe is destroying itself through its passive acceptance of potentially tens of millions of migrant males whose attitudes, and behaviours are entirely incompatible with our society. Our prisons and youth detention centres are already over-run with a small part of our population, blacks and Muslims. Since the UK has 5% of its population who are Muslims and 3% who are black, there is something badly wrong when 25% of our prison population is made up of these groups – especially since some Muslims would also be black. I estimate that a sector of the population of no more than 6% is four times over represented in the prison population. Looking at the antics of New Years Day in Colon and other places and the criminal justice information fro Sweden, we have to stop this now.

          • Penny

            I’m not American so I don’t know all the correct terminology, but I watched near on 8hrs of Congress questioning Kerry. I wouldn’t be happy with the Iranian deal either. In my view, Kerry made a couple of slips that were troubling.

          • Mike Johnson

            Bibi should stay out of American politics we did not elect him into our govt. If he does not like the Iran Deal he has a military and a diplomatic corp he is welcome to deal with Iran on his own. The US has given Israel over 120 billion dollars since 1948. Israel is not the 51st state of America he is welcome to work with the countries of the Middle East to solve problems there.

          • Penny

            Well, I guess that works two ways, Mike. Obama hasn’t exactly left the Israel/Palestinian issue to Bibi, has he?

            The US does given Israel military aid, but no country acts entirely from philanthropic principles. There is a) generally something in the deal that benefits the giver and this case is no different. For example, reciprocity: if Israel uses this money to purchase goods and services from American, then that is recycled back into the American economy.

            I’m rather tired now, but why don’t you google something like “What does Israel give to America”. You may be surprised. It’s always assumed to be a one-way deal but it isn’t. As I said, no country is entirely unselfish. They – rightly – act in their own interests, and at times, they clash.

          • Mike Johnson

            Nighyy Night don’t let the israeli bed bugs bite. So if I go to a store and the owner gives gives me 1000 dollars to spend in his store and I buy 1000 dollars worth of goods in his store how much money does the store owner make?

          • Penny

            Well, better bed bugs Mike than bees in bonnets.

            I take it you prefer the store scenario you’ve outlined to actually doing a bit of research?

          • Mike Johnson

            I tried to make it simple for you it is not my problem you do not understand simple examples.

          • Penny

            Google is your friend, Mike.

          • Mike Johnson

            Is that what the Hasbara manual says is your reply when you can’t think of a good answer to give to a persons rebuttal? You guys need to update the manual.

          • Penny

            Oh blimey, Mike – not you, too. Any varying opinion and it’s “hasbara” or “Jew”. Does it never cross your mind that people might just have other experiences outside of your own? That they may have looked at both sides of a story because weighing up the argument matters? It’s not as if the Israel/Palestinian thing is a non-issue that only oddballs know about. I happen to have taken my brain to sites other than Electronic Intifada.

          • Mike Johnson

            Electronic Intifada Was ist das? Plenty of Israeli sites and self loathing jews like Philip Weiss to rat the israeli pukes out.

          • Copyright101

            I think there was only ever one manual Mike. Never been updated. And these people are noted for their high verbal IQ!

          • Copyright101

            Go onPenny, what does Israel give to the US?

          • Penny

            Why do you keep asking me to give you information? Are you incapable of doing your own research? I’ve told you what to search for – you won’t, so why ask?

          • Copyright101

            You’re the one making the claim, you back it up.

            I can see what some of the costs to the US are. Billion$ in aid and written of debt. Military aid. The ongoing emnity of much of the population of the Middle East. Wars costing trillion$. You know, those trivialities.

          • Copyright101

            Its a twofer Arthur – Israel lays waste to its rivals and enemies, clearing the way for Israeli expansion and it gets to offload hostile Muslims onto the hated whites in Europe.

            All the while we hear bleating about how jews are less safe in Europe – so they go to Israel! Its all good.

          • Copyright101

            OK penny what do they tell the west, what do they tell their own people? Enlighten us.

          • Dr_Eigenvector
          • Doug

            Nor, indeed, any arguments.

          • Penny

            I’d need to have a reasonable chance of an argument to respond to. All I see is Wizard of Oz stuff.

          • Doug

            And all I see from you is hand waving and obfuscation.

          • Penny

            I started my comment by asking if the overall plan was to get yourselves banned. As yet, no one has answered that with anything but hand-waving and obfuscation.

            I find the arguments about as credible as the Flying Spaghetti Monster. You have your narrative – you prefer it and nothing will shift you from it.

          • Doug

            Well we haven’t been banned yet, and we could always come back with different user names anyway.

            There you go again, though. What part of the narrative do you find about as credible as the Flying Spaghetti Monster? What part of what is transpiring in Europe and the West do you think isn’t happening?

          • Penny

            Well, yes, you could come back. But it’s the way you litter up threads with the same thing over and over and over again that is going to get on the nerves of regular posters – many of whom pay a subscription.

            Look – if a stranger approached you, babbing on endlessly about the Queen really having three heads and spending her summer holidays on Mars, how much time would you be willing to spend to convince him otherwise?

          • Doug

            More obfuscation, huh?

            PS: if the stranger had the kinds of evidence that we present, then I’d be inclined to take him seriously.

          • Penny

            You can call it obfuscation if you wish. That’s your right. But I genuinely do not have the time – nor the inclination – to play games. These posts aren’t in the spirit of genuine debate – they’re simply sensationalised and baiting.

          • Doug

            I agree, that’s exactly what your posts are.

          • bargogx1

            It’s clear that what they’re trying to do is divert attention away from something, towards something else. Clearly they do not like the focus of this article.

          • Penny

            I genuinely did wonder if they were trying to get themselves banned in order get some kind of notch on their collective belt. “Banned for talking about Jews – see how they control everything!” That kind of thing. If they are banned – and I think it will come in time – I’d say it will be because of the cluttering up of threads with one thing and one thing only, irritating people who come for a (mostly) normal discussion.

            But I take your point. It will be interesting to see which articles attract.

          • Copyright101

            Sure that’s not hand rubbing?

        • ShoeEventHorizon

          By telling the humble truth and in the above case demonstrating that you people are systematically and calculatedly enforcing a program of genocide against the Europeans, you and your people say this yourselves amongst your own kind in mecdia intended for your eyes only, that you recognise this practice of forced mass immigration/multiculturalism as an act of genocide if it were to happen to you.

          Your only objection is we’re pointing out your hypocrisy/genocidal instincts towards Europeans.

          Is the truth strictly verboten here too?

          • Penny

            If I wanted to read the Wizard of Oz, I’d buy the book.

        • Sarka

          Yup – it’s so they can blame it on the Jews and consider the banning proof positive that they are right. The Speccie may fail to oblige – presumably not because it doesn’t have much of a mods policy, but because it is run by Jews who are fiendishly unwilling to have their conspiracies exposed.

          Anyway, we should warn these “insightful” commenters that they need to take care….My high-level contacts in Mossad tell me that soon it will not only be Islamist nutters in the UK who will be waking up to find one of their shoes missing!

          • RWJetzt

            ‘have their conspiracies exposed’

            When have we made reference to a conspiracy? We have simply pointed out the Jewish role in the destruction of White nations, which can be verified by facts. You lying rats seem to rely on claiming we believe all Jews are involved in some evil high level conspiracy which they keep secret from the goyim. My view is, the string pullers might be: read, almost definitely are (your Rothschild, your Soros, etc.). But the Jews on the ground don’t have to be. The Jews have always had to live off other people, and their survival strategy is therefore to destroy the host nations’ familial and group ties, as when they are identified as the alien they are always expelled. It is much more likely that their behaviour is a genetic instinct; instinctively, they know that strong, nationalistic White countries means their alien character will be in plain view, and so naturally Jews act as a bloc to weaken and divide the host population, even without consciously conspiring so to do. It’s why we don’t have a single Jewish organisation or lobby group that has tried to stop the immivasion of Europe since it began following the pointless second world war, in which millions of Europeans died to give Jews a homeland.

            Still, having said all that… funny how that rascal hoaxster with the Protocols 120 years ago described to the letter what is actually going on now, huh?

          • Sarka

            I think you need to get out more, you poor thing. Here’s a song to cheer you up, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XrRyqses5U

          • RWJetzt

            What a masterful argumentative technique, such biting wit, how didn’t I see that you would ignore everything I wrote and imply I don’t go outside very often. Personally, I would never have thought of such a staggering riposte, having considered such strategies childish when I was about 15, however, the media says Jews are incredibly smart, so I’m sure it’s just too subtle for my cattle mind to understand.

            Why don’t we get a few more of your ‘arguments’ out of the way now, to save you and the rest of JIDF some time:

            – live in Mum’s basement
            – neo-Naaaaaaarziiiiii
            – knuckle dragging skinhead
            – get back to Stormfront etc, ad infinitum

            Meanwhile, my arguments remain, unrefuted…

          • Sarka

            I wasn’t trying to argue with you (this is clearly impossible) – just cheer you up as you seemed upset and confused.
            If you are a cow, then possibly you are upset and confused because of hunger (considering the season). Maybe you should call Mehdi Hassan and ask him to send you some hay.
            You won’t believe me, of course, but I’m not Jewish…I’m a white indigene, possibly even aborigine of the British Isles, and my religious background is C of E.

          • RWJetzt

            I read your comments history about your ‘mystery’ grandmother, and the amount of Jews who ‘mistake’ you as one of their own, coupled with your obvious flair for lying and misdirection, leave little room for doubt in my mind.

            Of course, feel free to try to find me one of those Jewish organisations who didn’t want the West to become a multi-ethnic sh*thole if you are capable of actually debating a standpoint, and not doing the usual tactic of your type, obfuscation, straw men, and vile slurs.

          • Sarka

            Grandfather not grandmother – nothing to do with DNA tests. If you want to follow other commenters about for jeering purposes, try to read properly.

            That irrelevance aside, you seem fixated on the fact that Jewish organisations in the west in modern history have tended to take a liberal view of immigration, civil rights and refugee policies in various states. Well, go figure! If that is broadly true, it still does not in any way support an argument that the Jews are responsible for those policies, good or bad. There have been a lot of successful capitalists among Jews in the West, but that does not prove that the Jews collectively invented capitalism to destroy the workers. There were a lot of Jews among communists, but that does not prove that the Jews collectively invented communism to destroy capitalism, civilisation etc…

            What you are doing is inventing/assuming some “mystery” when there is no mystery…and then claiming to solve the non-existent mystery with reference to some sinister quality and power inherent in Jews (whether you frame this as some actual organised conspiracy, or just a sort of spontaneous biological tendency in Jewish DNA). No wonder you are obsessed with the stereotype of the Jew as lying and devious, essentially deceitful….it is a mad attempt to make a fantasy about how the world works square with some elementary logic. How can the Jews be making all these awful things happen and yet…and yet…not SEEM to be doing so, with so many apparently sane people not believing they are doing so…? Oh, I know – it must be because those Jews are so good at covering their traces…natural liars…! It’s the conspiracy theorist’s magic circle of invincible ignorance
            – and the reason why there is no point arguing with it.

            Vile slurs? Not really. You have accused me of being Jewish….which you think is a hefty insult indeed, but doesn’t bother me. I have observed that you are bonkers. Which I think is defensible fair comment.

            The only think I don’t quite understand is what you have against Muslim immigrants. Far more of them share your views of Jews than do your fellow “whites”…where’s the problem?

          • Copyright101

            Thats pretty good – and it can be seen in two ways!

          • Copyright101

            Any word on what elements of ‘jewish conspiracy’ are untrue? Can we have a list please.

    • Paggertheblagger

      I have watched this about 6months ago! Now when these Muslims start raping the Jews what will be said? Going by past events when Jews have had the chance of helping other Jews they don’t? Why? Because to create the grater isreal they don’t mind the few sacrifices. Yet watch migrants in isreal they get beat robbed and if they are a Christian God help them!!!!!!!!.

  • Nick Danger

    We need to found an American chapter of Sweden Democrats. We do not need more foreign illegal criminals.

    • Dr_Eigenvector

      Your country is run by foreign, (((dual citizenship)))) criminals and they don’t intend releasing you from their tentacled grip of doom.

      You won’t be ‘allowed’ to have a third, nationalist style party (unless it’s weak, Zionist controlled opposition, of course).

      So what’s your next step?

  • Marcus_Leeds

    If there is one small crumb of consolation at the demographic changes happening across Europe, it is that there will be increasing cases of the self-loathing White liberal types getting shafted by these changes that they have cheered on so smugly from the side lines. If anyone has any examples, please post as I think we could all do with a bit of schadenfreude

  • tom kincade

    The dwedesvare too gutless tobthrow them out I bet they wouldn’t try it in Saudi arabis

    • Alltaxationistheft

      You have invented your own code

      • tom kincade

        You don’t know what you are talking about what can’t speak can’t lie read your own press you moron

        • Alltaxationistheft

          Now that is in English. Well done
          ps you have up voted your own comment ! Isn’t that a little bizarre?

  • gonzomatic

    you imported animals not refugees. why do you think their country is such a s—hole?

    • Dr_Eigenvector

      We didn’t import them. They are unwanted invaders, forced upon us by the scum of the Earth.

  • Alltaxationistheft

    Cologne is interesting in that the Muslim low life are raping the middle class women that are usually at the front of the queue to fight for their importation. In France & the UK our political class are more adept at moving them speedily to the inner cities & poorest towns where they can practice their sexual predation on any infidel women or child they like but the Media & political class don’t care

  • Derek Seymour

    Not a peep about this from feminist commentators?

  • Alltaxationistheft

    One problem is the predation on young Arabs & Africans by frustrated & over the hill British women. The tunnel walker was last seen being whisked away by a particularly ugly specimen that you usually see all over the young waiters in Turkey

  • David Prentice

    So all cultures are equivalent and of equal worth?

    Yes! Absolutely! How dare you elevate western Judeo-Christian mores above pure nativist cultures!

    Even cultures that despise and enslave women, gays and minorities?

    If that culture is Islam, then yes, absolutely! How dare you, etc., ad nauseum.

    • Doug

      “How dare you elevate western Judeo-Christian mores above pure nativist cultures!”

      You can cut the Judeo bit out of the mores. Western values have very little to do with Jews, and indeed Christ himself was a complete rejection of “Jewish” values. The Judeo-Christian fallacy was invented by Jews to insert themselves into our culture, which they aren’t now and never have been a part of. This is why they’ve been kicked out of Western societies so many times.

      • Penny

        In what way did Christ reject Jewish values, Doug? And how can you say Jews inserted themselves into our culture when in fact, the New Testatment authors decided to tag onto the Old Testament? They could have simply trotted off, made a clean break and started a religion that had nothing to do with a previous book..

        • Doug

          Matthew 23 has the details: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23&version=KJV

          It’s also a mistake to think that Judaism is the same faith as the faith
          of Abraham or Moses. Abraham knew nothing of the Talmud nor the
          Kabbalah, both central tenets of Judaism, and neither did Moses.

          • Penny

            But Mark 12:29 would suggest otherwise.

            Nitpicking over Abraham doesn’t really address the question of why Christianity tagged onto Judaism.

            All reglions change over time, Doug. Even Christianity.

          • Doug

            Except, of course, that modern Judaism is a rejection of Christianity.

          • Penny

            That still doesn’t anwer the question, though. Why didn’t early Christianity spark up on its own fuel? Why did it tag onto previous teachings? Why does it still sing or take note of the Psalms? No one asked it to teach Sunday School kids Old Testament stories.

          • Doug

            Your question is backwards. Christianity is the progression of the Abrahamic faith, as revealed through prophecy. Judaism was a new invention that came after Christ as a direct rejection of Christ.

            So the question is, what is the provenance of the Talmud? Where is it prophesied in the OT/Torah? What about the Kabbalah?

          • Penny

            And yet Mark (and others) have Jesus reciting the Shema – which is central to Judaism today.

            I don’t agree that Judaism is a new invention that came after Christ. Too much of what Christ actually said comes from the OT. It wasn’t new stuff. In my view he was an observant Jew.

            What do you mean “what is the provenance of the Talmud”? Why would it be prophesied? The Kabbalah is just a mystic thing – there’s a ton of that in Christianity.

          • Doug

            Well the Shema is the Old Testament/Torah (incidentally, I didn’t quite see the point of your reference to Mark 12:29), ie that of the Abrahamic faith, which as I argue is not Judaism.

            Judaism without the Talmud is not Judaism. You could argue that it’s an extension of the Abrahamic faith, in a similar way that you could argue Islam is an extension of that Abrahamic faith. Both, interestingly, emerge around 600 AD, Christianity being older than both.

            Incidentally, claiming that the Kabbalah is just mysticism really downplays its importance in Jewish thought and mythology, and I’m not convinced there’s anything equivalent in Christianity.

          • Penny

            Mark 12:29 is the opening lines to the Shema, Doug. It’s a prayer but it is of immense importance in Judaism. It is about one God – not two or three. Thus, Jesus appears to be not only reciting it but obviously, in agreement with it.

            The Talmud means “study” – in its most simplistic description (which is hard to give) it’s just the law and debate. As it does attempt to codify law of course it’s going to be a part of Judaism. Jesus didn’t trot out all the rules and regulations that Christianity – in all its many forms – adhered to over time. Particularly Catholicism. Wasn’t the Nicene council convened to decide what was and what was not valid in Christianity?

            Christianity has given rise to a fair old number of oddball cults, Doug. It’s part of the New Age mysticism. But, it does boil down to how anyone defines “mysticism”.

          • Doug

            As I explained, the Shema is part of the Abrahamic tradition. The proto-Jews may have hijacked it, which is what Christ says in Matthew 23, but that doesn’t make it Jewish.

            You’re right that Christ doesn’t trot out a bunch of meaning laws about when and where you can’t extinguish lamps (which, funnily enough, Jews having invented these laws spend most of their time trying to get around), pretty much because they are meaningless. See Matthew 23 again.

            No, the Council of Nicaea was more about resolving issues within the early Church. It did not invent a whole bunch of observances, rules, or laws such as the Talmud. Catholicism, in as much as it forces rules on its observers, is debatable.

            I don’t see that Christianity has given rise to that many oddball cults, certainly none of them have had the same influence the Kabbalah has had in Judaism.

          • Penny

            As I’ve just been moderated, I’ve got to figure out which is the dodgy word. I’ll try again:

            Why do you say that the “proto-Jews” hijacked the Shema?

            I don’t really understand why you pin so much on Matthew 23.

            Jewish law is just an attempt to interpret what is meant by, say “work”. I think it’s a bit overboard, but then, I think refusing blood transfusions – as per the Witnesses – is going much further. Nevertheless, it is still an interpretation of those same laws but by a Christian group.

            There seem to me to be quite a few oddball cults around the world that are based in Christianity – again, arising either out of trying to interpret what is meant by bits in the bible or attempting to prove faith – sometimes by quite odd means. There’s a huge amount of fear in Christianity. H*ll being the stick waved about to control

          • Mike Johnson

            Why don’t you name the Christian odd ball cults? You dance around in almost every answer or reply you give without getting to the point. You do not supply any links or sources for any one to read and analyze.

          • Penny

            Well, Heaven’s Gate springs to mind. That appeared to be an odd mix of UFO and prophecy. Jonestown started with Christianity. There’s a group in one of the south American countries who believe their leader is Jesus returned. There’s a group near me who shut themselves off totally from the world and whose control is total.

            I’m responding to Doug – although jump in, no problem (that said, it is past midnight here) None of what we’ve discussed is particularly hard to find on the internet. Doug hasn’t asked for links, and – be fair – he hasn’t exactly peppered his comments with them either.

          • Doug

            Read Matthew 23 again – if you don’t like the KJV, pick a different translation. This is Christ telling you exactly what the Pharisees (aka proto-Jews) were up to: basically co-opting the traditions of the Abrahamic faith to advance their own agenda.

            The Talmud is way too large to be “a bit overboard”. This is a central tenet of Judaism, unlike the JWs who are a tiny, tiny, bit of (sort of) Christianity that most Christians don’t follow.

            Name those oddball cults in Christianity that have the same level of influence that Kabbalah has in Judaism. There’s nothing comparable. Joseph Smith and the Mormons? Nothing like it exists in Christianity.

          • Penny

            Well, I’m not sure about the Pharisees, Doug. They seem to me to have been expounding ideas that are actually quite Christian – a messiah, an afterlife. I’m no expert, mind, but perhaps a quick google will tell.

            Perhaps it’s down to our respective interpretations of “cult”. I tend to think of one of their main characteristics as being that of “control”. I don’t see the Kabbalah as a cult – it’s a mystical tradition but I don’t know many Jews who would see it as influential or who are controlled by it.. They know of it – but not that much about it. I have a Christian friend who studies a kind of Kabbalah-lite thing. What she’s shown me doesn’t look particularly cultish to me.

            What do you know of Kabbalah, though? Genuine question. Is it something you have actually gone in to – in terms of classes?

          • Doug

            The Abrahamic tradition predicts a Messiah. Now Christianity accepts that Jesus is the Christ and Messiah. Additionally, Christianity reveals that there will be an anti-Christ before the return of Christ and the final battle etc. Now Jews reject Christ as the Messiah and are still waiting for he/she/it to appear: So in effect the Jews’ Saviour is the Christian’s anti-Saviour.

            In terms of the Kabbalah, yes I’ve looked into that deeply and also into a number of other magical systems. Perhaps the most interesting thing about the Kabbalah is its numerical nature. The Gematria, the Tree of Life, and other aspects are all about numbers, particularly the number 6.

          • Penny

            I think you’re looking at these things as a Christian – you can’t really
            interpret Judaism through a Christian lens.

            The Messiah – if memory
            serves simply means “annointed”. It doesn’t imply divinity – that is a
            Christian idea. So if Jesus is supposed to return then he will,
            presumably, return as divine. How does that work? It would be a
            no-contest between a mere man and a divine entity

          • Doug

            You see – there is no Judeo-Christian tradition, the two are completely different!

            Well done Penny, you got it. Many people don’t, but congratulations where it’s due. I genuinely – and I’m not taking the proverbial – think you’ve grown spiritually here.

          • Penny

            Well, you’ve not really addressed the question, Doug, and you are rather hinging your argument on a difference of opinion about Messiahs, but in any case, if your point is that the two things are different, it doesn’t follow that they cannot be linked, their strengths combined or individual aspects not absorbed into the culture.

          • Doug

            Sorry Penny, but that doesn’t make any sense. I must have spoken too soon.

            If Christians accept Christ as their saviour and the Jews don’t, there can be no shared Judeo-Christain tradition. As I explained above, followers of the Abrahamic tradition were neither Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, but followers of an older tradition. Christianity, however, is prophesied in the Old Testament, but the Talmud, the Koran, the Kabbalah and everything afterwards isn’t.

            Regardless: there is no Judeo-Christian tradition, just as there isn’t an Islamic-Christian tradition. The Jews are not part of Christian Western society. We might argue that there’s an Abrahamic tradition, but that’s not the same as Judaism or Islam, but is a part of Christianity.

          • Penny

            But Christ was a Jew. It doesn’t matter how much you try to slice and dice that fact, he was not a blonde haired, blue-eyed, Western Christian. He didn’t reject his own religion or its values.

            Out of curiosity – where is Christianity prophesied in the OT?

            So if Jews are not part of Western society, I take it you reject their contributions to it? Past and present?

          • Doug

            Christ was not a Jew. The word “Jew” rarely appears in scripture. Christ was a follower of the older Abrahamic faith, as I have explained.

            I do not know what Christ looked like. He may have looked Caucasian, Semitic, Arab, Chinese, Martian, or Jew – it doesn’t matter. He rejected the proto-Jews, as explained above.

            Where is Christ prophesied in the Old Testament? All over the place! It’s just that Jews reject Him. Or don’t Jews have a prophesied Messiah after all?

            I take it you can give some contributions that Jews have made to Western society?

          • Penny

            What scripture are you referring to?

            What are the prophecies – that’s the point I’m trying to get at. Not how many of them there are. It clearly isn’t just the Jews who reject these prophecies. Any religion that isn’t Christian must, logically, do likewise.

            Well, contribution-wise, the Christian Messiah springs to mind. If there had been no Jews, there wouldn’t have been a Jesus. But take a look at the number of Nobel prize winners – is that not a contribution? You’re probably using Jewish innovations when you use certain technologies. No famous Jewish scientists that you can think of? Or musicians, playwrights, authors? What about Chaim Weizman’s contribution to WW1?

            Edit: Out of curiosity, what language do you expect the word “Jew” to be in in the scriptures?

          • Doug

            Find me a scripture that refers to “Jews”. Not Abraham’s people. Not Israelites. Not King David’s People. Not King Solomon’s people. Not Moses’ people. Find me one, single, scripture that refers to those people as “Jews”.

            Why can’t you find it? Those people weren’t Jews: for reasons described before.

            Christ is a result of the Abrahamic tradition, not the Jewish one, see above. Yes, let’s look at those “famous Jewish” Nobel Winners:

            Economics – A failed attempt at controlling money.
            Physics – A way of blowing away millions of people.
            Psychology – A way of making people think they’re things they aren’t.

            Chaim Weizmann was, of course, a Zionist terrorist.

            Penny, you’ve just revealed yourself as a JT.

          • Penny

            Blimey – what is a JT?

            And, as I said, why “Jew” – that’s English. Jesus wasn’t named “Jesus”. That’s also an English translation.

            You left out medicine. And look up Chaim Weizman.

          • Doug

            What do you think a JT is? You are one.

            You didn’t say “why Jew” about anything. “Jew” doesn’t appear in history or scripture until about 600 AD.

            Medicine – I did, no real Jewish achievements in that.

            Chaim Weizmann remains a Zionist terrorist. Or isn’t Zionism Jewish?

          • Penny

            I have no idea what a JT is. Enlighten me.

            Perhaps “Jew” doesn’t appear in history or scripture because, like “Jesus” it’s an English word. I’m really not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

            Medicine – well, pity you had that polio vaccine, isn’t it? Never take an asprin or get diabetes! The list is long, I’d say “look it up” but I get the feeling that you just don’t want to know.

            And as for labelling physics as “a way of blowing away millions of people”. For heaven’s sake. You might as well say that Sir John Hawkins – who I believe first brought tobacco into England – killed millions.

            I don’t think Zionism is entirely Jewish. There are Christian Zionists, for example.

          • Doug

            No, “Jew” doesn’t appear prior to 600 AD because they didn’t exist.

            Still, I doubt “the Jews” once they emerged did anything useful. That would take an unprecedented leap into politics, the judiciary, education, science and anything else. I can’t think of a single area where that happened.

          • Penny

            Then why do you get so het-up about Jews if you don’t think they have or will ever make a contribution to society?

            There’ something rather odd about the notion that, on the one hand, Jews have so much power – enough to make you and your friends hit this site with comment after comment about them, like they dominate your every waking moment – but then say they’re a pretty useless bunch who contribute nothing and never made an unprecedented leap into anything. If that is the case, why on God’s good earth are you wasting so much of your time on them? They’re clearly no threat.

          • Doug

            Thanks Jew, you’re about to enter White Nationalist history 🙂

          • Penny

            Did I mention “paranoid”?

            So, anyone who disagrees with you is Jewish?

          • Doug

            Did I mention “thanks Jew”?

          • Penny

            You need to grow up, Doug. You look daft and you’re now into ad.homs

            But, as this is now descending into that territory, I will bid you goodnight.

          • Doug

            לילה טוב

          • Colonel Travis

            You’re arguing with a bona fide idiot with no life. All they do is spew hate and then brag to their friends, who also have no life, about how awesome they are for having no life.

            http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2016/01/santander-get-little-more.html

          • Penny

            I know. Those are a few hours of my life that I’ll never get back!

            But it did – at least for a while – stop the repetitive and obsessive posting of pretty much the same comment over and over again!

          • Colonel Travis

            I’ve dealt with them before. This is all they live for. Utter waste of humanity.

          • Penny

            It’s a kind of co-dependency, I suppose. If Jews vanished from the face of the earth tomorrow, they’d be bereft. No more excitement.

          • Colonel Travis

            Haha. Truth!

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            The whole world would party for 50 years if the most despised people on earth disappeared in a flash and Jewish tyranny was no more.

            Haha. Truth!

          • Copyright101

            “Dealt” in this case meaning – had your bottom kicked.

          • Colonel Travis

            HAHA! Funny. Man, you are, I swear, one of our generation’s most gifted humorists.

            Also, between you and me, I appreciate that you used “bottom” and kept it clean. Shows you have class.

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            dealt with them before

            You’ve done nothing before, you pompous, arrogant cretin.

          • Copyright101

            Thanks for the link Colonel, I’ll be sure to check it out.

          • Colonel Travis

            Oh hey no-life doofus! Great to see you. And we meet in a forum where you can’t ban me. That’s a shame you banned me in your den of alleged welcoming opinion. I was assured by a moderator there that they didn’t ban people. Golly gee, wha happa?!?!?

            When you go back and lay some eggs there, tell everyone hello from me.

          • Copyright101

            For myself I wouldnt have banned you, I like to see you people running around, bumping into the furniture and falling on your faces. It’s most instructive

          • Colonel Travis

            So thoughtful of you. Really. Of all the racist twits who have no life I’ve met, you are the most gracious of them all.

          • Copyright101

            Most gracious Colonel, I appreciate that.

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            I told everyone at Morgoth’s Review that Colonel Travis said hello.

            They said “who is Colonel Travis?”

            I don’t think you made much of an impression during your brief visit.

            You suffer from delusions of grandeur, old bean.

          • Colonel Travis

            No one cares but you, who had to respond to me four times here after you had the courage to ban me from your un-banning forum.

            Keep up the great work, little worm.

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            One of the losers from NR who ban by the thousand, crying because he got as taste of his own medicine. Arf!

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            @troll

          • Copyright101

            I don’t think Zionism is entirely Jewish. There are Christian Zionists, for example.

            Lol! Well without jews, those Christian zionists would be at a bit of a loose end wouldnt they.

            More simply – can we have zionism without jews? No. Can we have it without Christian supporters? yes.

          • razorrare

            hmmmm…interesting.

            Can we have zionism without jewish anti-zionists?

            hmmmm…nope.

            Fighting zionism without ideologically fighting jewish tribalism is useless because the zionist jews completely dominate the organized jewish community. jewish zionists support anti-zionist jews dropping culture bombs on White Western Civilization, leading to our genocide. These bigoted, hateful, supremacist rascals have the game rigged.

          • Copyright101

            you can’t really interpret Judaism through a Christian lens

            Well thats flushed the ‘judeo-Christian’ nonsense. Thanks Penny!

          • Penny

            If you understood what I meant, you’d probably not be quite so grateful

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXVVjNav2Uw English Lad

            I suggest you read some text from the Talmud to actually understand what you are talking about: the Talmud has nothing to do with the Christian Faith.
            Do you actually know what the Talmud is?
            Unless you are informed, you risk making grotesque judgments.

          • Penny

            Again – you don’t understand what I meant. This has nothing to do with the Talmud.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXVVjNav2Uw English Lad

            Do you know what the Talmud is? Could you give a brief explanation?
            Do you believe the Talmud has anything to do with the Christian Faith?
            It does not. So it cannot have anything to do with the Old Testament either.

          • Penny

            You’ll read my explanation below.

            And I repeat – for the third time – you simply do not understand what I meant. The Talmud is neither here nor there.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXVVjNav2Uw English Lad

            If you want to study the Talmud you can, but you may want to know beforehand that it was composed AFTER our Saviour visited the world and is in rejection of him.

          • razorrare

            ha!

            I wonder what came first, Christian zionists or Christian atheists. Did they both mate and hatch a baby and named it judea christianity ?

            http://www.britannica.com/biography/Thomas-J-J-Altizer

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXVVjNav2Uw English Lad

            “Nitpicking”, that’s unbecoming in describing study of the Scriptures.
            The Christian Faith is NOT tagged onto Judaism.
            Judaism was invented after Christ came, as a deliberate rejection of Christ.

          • razorrare

            It is Christians who are “a Chosen Generation, a Royal Priesthood, a Holy Nation.”—( 1 Peter 2:9 )

        • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXVVjNav2Uw English Lad

          Sorry, didn’t you know that the New Testament is the fulfilment of the Old Testament?
          Some Jews followed Jesus and became Apostles.
          Many others did not.
          Judaism is based on rejecting the Saviour and misinterpreting Old Testament prophecies heralding the coming Saviour, and has as its main book the Talmud, which was written AFTER Jesus Christ came to the world.
          Jesus is the Son of God, the Verb, who was in Heaven before Adam was on Earth.
          He is not Jewish, but the Verb and Son of God.

        • Alex Williamson

          You don’t know much about the bible do you? The primary purpose of Christ’s mission was to show the Jews the error of their ways. You may recall that they took umbrage at this and had him nailed to that big wooden thing.

          • Penny

            Oh , hello Alex. Are you another member of the “Frothingly Excited By Jews” Club? Your fellow members have been here all day long.

          • Alex Williamson

            I have little Internet in Jews. However, I strongly objectti their attempting to claim a co-credit for western civilisation. By their own admission, they spent most of the last 2,000 years as a despised and persecuted minority in the west. Their role in he creation of western Civilsation has been minimal. Highlights include, Marxism, psychoanalysis and the atomic bomb.

          • Copyright101

            and the atomic bomb

            And that only because white people had already created the necessary scientific, engineering and industrial infrastructure.

          • Penny

            And Jesus, Alex. Don’t forget Jesus. That’s a fair contribution to Christian society, I’d say.

            But anyway, we’ll see whether you have little or no interest in Jews, I’m sure. The Club can’t seem to get enough of them. It’s all they ever talk about.

          • Alex Williamson

            Jews trying to claim credit for the achievements of a man they despised, opposed at every turn and eventually had executed? That’s duplicitious even for them.

          • Penny

            Oh I never said that. You’re reading more into it than I intended. Over-excited perhaps?

            Jesus was simply born into that culture – as you were in, well, wherever you come from. If that culture hadn’t existed, neither would he.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXVVjNav2Uw English Lad

            And poison gas, WW1.
            It was used initially to kill thousands of soldiers in one single attack, and later God knows how many once the war was over.
            Most people don’t know who invented poison gas.

          • bargogx1

            These types always show up whenever too much negative attention is directed at a certain religon sometimes called “the religion of peace”.

          • Penny

            I’ll bear that in mind.

          • RWJetzt

            Are you implying we’re Muslims now? Such biting wit! Such originality!

          • bargogx1

            Muslims, fellow travellers, useful idiots, who knows? All I know is you’re trying very hard to divert attention away from the focus of this article, and pretty much any time any article is posted on the Internet that is critical of anything to do with Islam, inevitably numerous commenters will show up ranting and raving about Jews or Christians or both.

          • RWJetzt

            ‘pretty much any time any article is posted on the Internet that is critical of anything to do with Islam’

            Perhaps because the actions of Jews have everything to do with the reason anybody in Europe would give a crap about what the followers of Islam believe, given we now have to live alongside them?

            And I’d love to file my views under a more appropriate thread title, but unfortunately there don’t seem to be many threads which touch on the kind of issues I wish to talk about – for whatever reason. Muslims are A-ok to whine about, but the other group? Nuh-uh.

          • razorrare

            ….not to mention the revolutionary jew choosing Barabbus over Christ.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          AH yes, the Jewish Book of Fairy stories.

        • Hagen vanTronje

          “”In what way did Christ reject Jewish values, Doug?””

          Kicked the Moneychangers out of the Temple.
          That do you ?

        • razorrare

          “In what way did Christ reject Jewish values?”

          I have essentially lost 3 to 4 years of research answering that question in long winded replies due to blog sites either losing their disqus privileges (DailyStormer/DailySlave–Anglin/Rodgers), or the blog owners themselves (radix/alternative right–Colin/Spencer). Therefore, i am no longer making long repetitive winded replies…

          Judaism’s Strange Gods by Michael A. Hoffman…the text screen is no longer loading but you can still read his 135 page book by scrolling down to reader’s comment and just below that clicking on P.4 which is Table of Contents–P.5 = Preface–P.6 = Chapter 1 page 1…etc etc

          http://www.slideshare.net/MurodelHonor/judaisms-strange-gods

          It answers that question and more, essentially clarifying what Doug has tried to explain to you.

        • razorrare

          Example…interested? Read Judaism’s Strange Gods.

          • Penny

            But yet again, you’re exhibiting confirmation bias. Research isn’t seeking out something because it aligns with your own views.Research is only research if you look at both sides of a story from very different perspectives and many different authors. If, even as pre-university student, you cited one author throughout an academic paper, you’d fail.

            Hoffman starts from his own perspective of disliking Jews / being a conpiracy theorist and interprets through that same lens. Hardly “research” is it?

            Besides which, looking at this comments page, how can Doug et al possibly claim to be Christians? Wasn’t Jesus all about loving others? All I read here is hate.

          • razorrare

            Okay, lets see if i am able to avoid moderation this time…

            Historical fact is not a matter of perspective.

            Much of Hoffman’s own sources are from jewish sources and gives plenty of them in his book Judaism’s Strange Gods.

            Hating evil and not being tolerant of lies is loving others. Jesus was about loving others who deserved to be loved. Turning the other cheek quote was meant for Family & Friends, not for your enemies. If Jesus was all about loving others there would be no he!!, no separating the chaff from the wheat, no judgement day.

            Another source article you might be interested in by E.Michael Jones..http://www.culturewars.com/2006/Conversion.htm

          • Penny

            What do you mean – historical fact is not a matter of perspective? Of course there are perspectives!

            If you research, say, a remote south American tribe, how can you even begin to write authentically about their way of life if all you do is see it through a 20th century, north American or European cultural lens? You might write what you see – but you won’t understand it. You’ll be comparing oranges with apples. It’s bizarre, to my mind, that you cannot see this.

            Judaism and Jewish history cannot be interpreted solely through a Christian lens. For example: Christianity interprets the story of Abraham and Isaac as God asking for obedience. But this is not necessarily what the story is saying. It’s a Christian interpretation, without historical context, and based on the Christian faith – to say nothing of language translation.

            As for the rest – oh come on! Where does Jesus say “turn the other cheek, but only if the other person is deserving”? Who judges “deserving”?

            You’ve made up a composite Jesus to suit your biases. Not for the first time I find myself feeling sorry for this man in whose name so many awful things have been done. Perhaps you should consider his own words: “Begone. I never knew you” (Matthew 7 22:23)

          • razorrare

            Historical fact is fact. Not perspective. Not debatable. It was my response to you for falsely labeling Hoffman a conspiracy theorist. He is an Historical Revisionist.

            As for the rest, pray for discernment and good luck to ya. I gave you a couple of excellent links to read that may help you to be more desirable of reason. I recommend you read them, if only for ((( perspective ))).

          • Penny

            Your first argument falls on its face quite easily. If historical fact is as set in stone as you imply then why is there more than one book about any historical incident? Why isn’t there just one book about, say, the American war of Independence? Why do historians argue? In fact, why are there any historians at all? What’s the point of them because one person has already written about the war of Independence; another has covered the War of the Roses; another has sorted out WW1. And so on.

            Let’s say I tell you that I am an historian, and that I’ve written a book about the American war of Independence. You buy it, read it, and then just accept that everything I’ve said is true? No need to read anything else because, heck!, it’s all in a book and it can’t be wrong?

            And supposing you then discover that I am a Brit who has a) never been to America b) never studied American history from an American perspective c) hasn’t spoken to Americans in any depth d) is an imperialist who believes America should be subject to a British monarch (which I’m not, but let’s chuck that in for comparison’s sake)

            Will you still believe everything I write is “fact” and never look at another book because there is no need – perspective is irrelevant?

          • razorrare

            Why are historical revisionist persecuted whereas establishment historians and accepted house scholars are rewarded?

          • Penny

            Are they? David Irving decided to flout the law of a particular country. If you do that, then you take account of the risks first. I don’t agree with jailing people for their ideas, but then, I don’t make the rules in Austria.

            The problem with some of the revisionists is their method, which may not be acceptable in terms of its rigour. Academic rigour matters in the same way that scientific rigour matters. Revisionists can say what they want as far as I’m concerned, but if they are sloppy in their research or make presumptions then I won’t bother reading it.

          • razorrare

            All these better known revisionists, or Truth tellers of historical fact, have been persecuted for questioning and challenging the historical record given that by ((( establishment historians ))) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0094a1ed1eaa420d483183ec847abc334715d566a72ec0a606ff2285cd2b9d01.jpg . It is not a complete list nor does it include the thousands of conscientious citizens exercising free speech who have been fined and jailed under ADL created hate speech and hate crime laws which only exist in former White homogeneous countries.

            Prof. Robert Faurisson – Harry Barnes – Fred Leuchter – Theodore O’Keefe – Germar Rudolf – Udo Walendy – David McCalden – Ursula Haverbeck – Ernst & Ingrid Zündel – Siegfried Verbeke – Ivan Lagace – Paul Rassinier – Jürgen Rieger – Jürgen Graf – Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad – Carlor Mattogno & Russ Granata – David Cole – Walter Lüftl – Dr. Robert Countess – Doug Collins – Dr. Costas Zaverdinos – Prof. Arthur R. Butz – Ahmed Rami – Bishop Richard Williamson – Gerd Honsik – Barbara Kulaszka – Carlos Porter – David Irving – Doug Christie – Ditlieb Felderer – Tijudar Rudolph – Henri Roques – Michael Hoffman – J. G. Burg (Joseph Ginsberg) – Ingrid Weckert – John Sack – Hans Schmidt – John Bennett – Lady Michèle Renouf – François Duprat – Dr. Fredrick Töben – Dr. Wilhelm Stäglich – Günter Deckert – Wolfgang Fröhlich – Gaston-Armand Amaudruz – Vincent Reynouard – Pedro Varela – Richard Krege – Thies Christophersen – Dr. Herbert Schaller – Manfred Roeder – Mark Weber – Bradley Smith – Horst Mahler – Sylvia Stolz

            How hate laws makes criminals of Islam’s critics…www.hatelawsexposed.org

            If you stand with evil ( Kaballic Judaism ) you should take account of the risk first.

            http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/tedpikewifediedmartyr.html

          • Penny

            Have you read that list of names? Actually read it rather than thought “that’s a lot of names. That’ll do” and copied and pasted it all over the place?

    • Copyright101

      Judeo? Its the Judeo part thats the problem

      • razorrare

        Right you are!

  • Mike Johnson

    Congressional Record

    House of Representatives – September 22, 2005

    Page H8337

    “Stability is an unworthy American mission and a misleading concept to boot…We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, SYRIA, Lebanon, or even Saudi Arabia. We want things to change. The issue is not whether but how to DESTABILIZE.” – Michael Ledeen, Jewish former U.S. Under Secretary of State
    https://www.congress.gov/congr

    Michael Ledeen was a founding member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) and serves on the JINSA Board of Advisors.
    http://zoa.org/2008/06/101480-
    http://www.jinsa.org/

    • Mow_the_Moser

      General Wesley Kanne (Kohen) Clark admits “allies” created ISIS to fight Israel’s enemy, Hezbollah.

      General Wesley Kanne (Kohen) Clark, former presidential candidate and NATO supreme allied commander during the NATO war against Yugoslavia, stated in a recent interview on CNN that “ISIS got started through funding from our friends and allies.” He did not specify exactly which US allies he was talking about.

      Clark did say that ISIS “is part of a strategy to destroy Hezbollah with an army of extremists.” Hezbollah was formed to drive Israel out of Lebanon, and ISRAEL is the only country with an interest in destroying it.

      Video: Wesley Kanne (Kohen) Clark: “ISIS got started through funding from our friends and allies.”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHLqaSZPe98

      Breitbart News, 05 July 2010

      “There is no place in modern EUROPE for ETHNICALLY PURE STATES. That’s a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with MULTI-ETHNIC STATES.” – General Wesley Kanne (Kohen) Clark
      http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2010/07/05/from-europe-who-will-protect-us-from-nato/

      Jewish Telegraphic Agency, 17 September 2003

      Wesley Clark´s Jewish roots

      …Clark, 58, revels in his Jewish roots. He told The Jewish Week in New York…that his ancestors were not just Jews, but members of the priestly caste of Kohens.
      http://www.jta.org/2003/09/17/life-religion/features/wesley-clarks-jewish-roots

  • Realismista

    This whole problem is far wider – and far more ominous – than the general public realise. For example, very few Jews in cities such as Amsterdam, Brussels and Paris any longer wear yarmulkes in public because they are likely to be insulted and/or assaulted. Similarly in the same cities which were until recently oases of progressive values where homosexuals were rarely assaulted, there is now an epidemic of gay-bashing. In both case, the police do virtually nothing to track down the assailants and the media hardly report the crimes in the terms that are necessary in order to understand and analyse exactly what is taking place. Therefore, it’s as if these crimes have not been committed. In all three cities there is now Jewish and gay flight to areas where they feel more welcome and less at risk: the outer suburbs or small towns with less of an ethnic mix (ie less Muslims).

    PS – anyone who doubts the epidemic of gay bashing that has been taking place for years now in Amsterdam – which is no longer the gay capital but now the gay-bashing capital of Western Europe – only needs to type in the words ‘gay’ ‘assaults’ ‘Amsterdam’ into Google for literally dozens of articles to appear….

    • Truthbetold

      It is just awful…..

    • Alex Williamson

      Will nobody thInk of the poor, powerless, downtroddenJews? It’s not as if they campaigned for immigration or multiculturalism. They are innocent victims in all this.

      • greencoat

        I’m not aware of any Jewish pro-immigration campaign. I am aware of the (openly admitted) one led by English and Scottish politicians.

        • Dr_Eigenvector

          Just because you’re not aware of it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Individual Jews, Rabbis and Jewish groups and organisations across the West were falling over themselves to pressurise governments into allowing the current rapefugee invasion wave.

          You should ask yourself why you’re not aware of this.

          And also why no such pressure was applied to Israel for who have taken zero rapefugees. Not one.

          As well as certain wealthy Arab States who had no pressure applied to them either and have done very little to help.

          Why are only European nations having dieversity forced upon them?

          How can we be at such a late stage and you still aren’t asking these questions?.

          • Penny

            I would have thought the reason that Syrians aren’t seeking refuge in Israel was obvious. Most genuine refugees hope a time will come when they can return home. Syrians who have sought Israeli support would probably never be able to do that.

          • Dr_Eigenvector

            Any port in a storm.

            Unless the leader of the country where the port is says you can’t come in because you might alter the Jewish nature of the state, like racist murderer and Jewish Supremacist Netanyahu said about Syrian refugees as he ordered yet another wall built to keep them out.

        • Copyright101

          Perhaps you’ve noticed the jewish hostility to UKIP, FN, BNP etc?

          Perhaps you’ve noticed that their support amongst the white population is much greater than amongst the jewish population?

          Why is that?

        • ADB2

          Seriously?

          Here’s a few examples:

          German Council of Jews slams PEGIDA.

          http://www.dw.com/en/german-council-of-jews-chairman-condemns-immensely-dangerous-pegida-movement/a-18143163

          European Jewish Congress calls for ban of “far-right” groups:

          http://www.jpost.com/International/Greek-Jews-laud-Golden-Dawn-arrests-327424

          EJC pushes for more hate speech laws to stifle dissent against mass immigration and multiculturalism in Europe (while protecting Muslims):

          “Dinstein, who is working in conjunction with the EJC to draft pan-European legislation against hate speech, said that in his opinion and according to the legislation he is drafting, the sorts of caricatures disparaging the Prophet Muhammad in the satiric magazine Charlie Hebdo should be outlawed.”

          http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/EJC-president-Islamic-extremists-are-the-new-Nazis-389076

          American Jewish groups campaign for amnesty for illegals in the US:

          http://www.jta.org/2013/03/24/news-opinion/united-states/array-of-jewish-groups-urges-faster-path-to-citizenship

          Feeling more aware yet?

          • greencoat

            Well, I’m aware that most ‘far-right’ groups have members who are anti-semitic, so it’s only natural that Jewish organisations are hostile towards them. In the meantime, Israel battles on alone against Islamic terrorism.

          • ADB2

            Has it ever occurred to you that “far right” groups have members who are “anti-semitic”, because of the role of organised Jewry in promoting mass immigration and demonising those who resist?

  • quiller

    The politicians in Sweden and Germany made a decision to accept all migrants irrespective of reason for migrating and at cost. Germany and Sweden then decided that other European sovereign nations should take their “fair share” of the migrants they (Germany and Sweden) invited. The political class sold their “logic” to the civil service, police and media. Ranks closed all round and anyone who protested was silenced or call a racist and a bigot or threatened with the law. The German and Swedish politicians tried to manage the sharing out of migrants using qualified majority ruling with the collusion of the European Union. That still did not wash with the European sovereign nations. Now that the problems of the initial decision are beginning to pop out of the woodwork – the politicians, the civil service, the police and the media are scrambling around trying to explain their initial decisions and the cover up. Joe and Mary Public do not buy it. The Guardian was and still is one of the worst offenders prepared to sacrifice public safety and logic for it’s initial illogical decisions and it’s cover up through news suppression or censorship. The people who participated in the bad decisions and the cover ups are no better than the censors in the old Soviet Union or China.

    • Truthbetold

      It would take ar least 2 or 3 generations for them to assimilate

      • Cobbett

        And by that time they will become the majority…so no assimilation needed as they will be the dominant group.

      • quiller

        Optimist !

      • Hagen vanTronje

        They will never assimilate because the cannot ! if they assimilated then they would not be Muslim and it’s likely they could face the local Imam issuing a Fatwah against them and they would certainly be ostracized by their fellows.
        That is why anybody who states that ,’Muslims will integrate’, is a liar albeit an unwitting liar.

        • Truthbetold

          Then we are barking up the wrong tree…..we need to be going after the imams

  • Vet_allting

    In Sweden today NO ONE can say ONE negative word about immigrants without receiving death threats from the crazy left,and of course you cant say it on SVT (swedish state tv)

    The same crazy left shuts up completely when there are immigrants involved in crimes..
    AND the newspapers constantly tries to hide whats going on,if any paper reports the truth they are called “far right extreme” or “enemy of immigrants” or similar..yup,this is Sweden today.

    • Truthbetold

      You need to ban together or just come to America

      • Vet_allting

        Hmm,yeah,something has to be done becasue we are filled up to the brim now..
        And our politicians are just putting their heads in the sand and filling their pockets with money and privileges.

        • Truthbetold

          It may come to civilians having to come together as a community organization to patrol areas within the cities. I know you are all restricted when it comes to firearms but what about pepper spray and tasers? There is a loophole somewhere in the legislation…you just have to find it. When I was a teenager, I carried a small purse filled with heavy items such as a camera, old wooden jewelry box, a bag of marbles, coins…..whatever I could find that didn’t seem suspicious but just heavy enough that if I was bullied, I would have a way to defend myself and it didn’t seem as if I planned to use my purse as a weapon. Of course, I never had to use it. But I was prepared to defend myself if needed. A lone female ( or a male) encircled by 20 men would have a really hard time getting out of that situation. Pepper spray would be ideal but of course you run the risk of getting it on yourself. You can build an immunity to it if you slowly expose yourself to it and build up your immunity

          • Navymommy

            I carried a socket set in my purse..

          • Vet_allting

            Yes,we will get the same problems they have in the US,gated communities etc.We can get guns,its a little bit harder than in the US,but we never been a nation with guns (except hunting) tasers are no allowed here BTW.
            We are slowly getting the same problems with areas where no one except immigrants are living,similarities with Bronx In New York pop up in my head..

          • Truthbetold

            Don’t listen to everything you hear on American media. People (even in the southern States) are usually tolerant of immigrants. Of course we are a nation a of immigrants and it is nothing to see Asians Africans Indians Arabs here….our biggest problem right now is the influence of Hispanics that a here and still coming( we know they come for a better life than in the drug cartel infested cesspool country they just left) ….but our left winged people want for them to keep their entire cukture and nit have to assimilate at all….this becomes a burden on america financially becsue we have to adopt their language and accommodate them….of course many have overstayed their visa an came illegally and they drive wages down.most Americans know that it is easier to be on welfare than work a minimum waged job….it is one of the reasons why our recovery has been so slow. Not sure where you have visited in america…but new York is “special”…most people think New York is the poster that represents america but it isn’t….if you want the real america…go to Indiana and look at farm country

          • Vet_allting

            “but our left winged people want for them to keep their entire cukture and nit have to assimilate at all”

            Exactly the same thing here..

          • Truthbetold

            Except for the the typos I made….I hate my phone!!

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            Five yen coins are similar to washers. I have a hundred or so on a string, as change obviously.

          • Truthbetold

            Ingenious

      • William Bell

        Sorry, the US isn’t all that different. The same pathology is at work here. But at least we have the option to defend ourselves, individually.

  • Chris

    Why should this come as any surprise? Say anything in the UK about immigrants and you are labelled a racist and right wing. Start giving unpleasant examples of immigrant behaviour and you will be called a bigot who should be charged with incitement.

    • Truthbetold

      Who cares if you are labelled a racist when your livilyhood is inc the line. WWCD? What would Churchill Do?

      • RWJetzt

        He’d probably do whatever his Jewish financiers told him to, just like he did in WWII. Meaning, the old drunkard would probably be competing with Merkel on how many vibrants he could let in, and making powerful speeches about the wars for Israel young Brits really must fight in…

  • opencurtin

    The problem is Judea Christianity is on the wane migrants coming form Africa and the middle east are brining Islam and a very extreme form of it they are here not to integrate but to create their own culture and their own rules to our dying society , Europe will be 50 %Muslim by the end of the century then we will see how Peaceful and accommodating Islam is , as the Evolutionists tell us it is “survival of the fittest “….

    • Copyright101

      What is “Judea Christianity”?

  • DaviddeAngelis
  • amadeus49

    In Sweden no-one dares say anything bad about the behaviour of immigrants whether it is sexual harassment in Stockholm or anti-semitism in Malmo. We only hear their foreign minister criticising Israel. Each in its own way is PC.

  • evad666

    Still loads of comment on the Rotherham Politics site with no obvious sign the town has
    recognized the threat Labour poses to its children.

    • Mike Johnson

      Why don’t you lynch the Rotherham rats like we hung Leo Frank?

      • Cobbett

        That would be my solution….after all, communal violence is a feature of Pakistan.

    • milford

      Would the Cons have done something different? I doubt it. Most politicians are watching their own backs and feathering their own nests first and foremost.

      • Brady

        The Cons, probably not. UKIP, quite possibly. BNP, definitely.

  • Alex Williamson

    Don’t mind the molestation goyim. What’s a little bit of rape and sexual assault compared to the obvious benefits of diversity. Just don’t ask what those benefits are. Questions like that are racist.

  • Rebel Yell

    It is truly sad and disgusting that the leaders are covering up the rape epidemic the “refugees” are bringing the Europe.

    Where are the feminists on this? Why aren’t they out in numbers denouncing this? Sweden is now the rape capital of the world, and the rest of Europe isn’t far behind.

    Women are being sacrificed at hands of multiculturalism. They’re being beaten, sexually assaulted, and gang raped in large numbers. It’s horrific that this is being allowed to go on!!!

    Women of Europe need to stand up and FIGHT this. Clearly, the political leaders, police, and MSM aren’t going to defend you. Already, they’re blaming the victims for being raped or assaulted.

    • William_JD

      The feminist movement never had any interest in women; it was always just another tentacle of the Left seeking to use women to further the Left’s power.

  • Philip

    Sweden had all but eliminated rape until the Muslims arrived.

  • http://cafe.themarker.com/user/235356/ Shahar Luft

    The politicians’ and the media’s gag-order behaviour is the most ominous part of the whole thing. It follows the pattern of Rotherdam and similar, uncoordinated actions in other places – like police in Germany telling women to cover themselves so as to respect the immigrants’ culture.

    The issue is not the immigrants or Islam. Any immigration wave of this size would cause disturbance and resentment. But the gag order is telling. The elites don’t trust the electorates – because they are electorates. The entire idea of the EU from its origins in the late 1940s was to disperse popular sovereignty by bleeding it out to regional bodies, and then bleeding the sovereignty of these bodies out to international law and NGOs. The body politic was then further balkanized by the dissemination of an ideology that told people to view themselves not as individuals, but as corporates – race, class, gender, privileged and unprivileged, straights and gays. One is no longer looking at a public made of individuals and their elected governments, but at a landscape made of crosscutting corporations, guilds, and estates, populating a continent that looks like a maze of duchies, baronetcies and free cities, all ruled over by a hazy union and managed by a refined, cosmopolitan intellectual elite. It’s a medieval landscape of church and empire – and intentionally so.

    Europe’s rulers are medievalists. They have been so successful, that this medievalism is now called liberal, whereas the liberalism that puts individuals and their discretion first is called rightwing and conservative. The filtering of information so that the lower estates do not get a picture that the elites do not want, the education-through-catechism rather than through open debate (‘ímmigrants are welcome!’), the perception of open information itself as a threat – these are all symptoms of this medievalism. (Do you think it is incidental that radical students, who have imbibed the ideology but are still naive about the need to keep it obscure, profess to hate free speech?) While in the normal, pre-crisis operation of European societies the illusion of modernity and democracy are kept, the crisis exposes this underlying clerical ideology and its operation. Freedom of information is really anathema to them, as is the existence of a coherent electorate that can speak its mind. The refugee situation has pushed these attributes to the surface.

    • norman’s nonsense

      Your comment should be on the front page of every European newspaper. Well said.

    • Sarka

      This is bold thinking Shahar, but a key difference from medieval times is the sheer power of the centralised state. Medieval states were on the whole ramshackle, amateurish operations, without effective police powers by modern standards…and the ideological power of intellectual elites was very limited too. Indoctrination of wider populations by catechism came in in the early modern period – and was to do with a) printing and wider education in general, and b) the needs of the ideological battle between Reformation and Counter-Reformation.

      I couldn’t agree more that a lot of what goes for modern liberal-left thought is predicated on extreme distrust of “the people” and popular sovereignty, which is on one level paradoxical in so ostentatiously democratic an age.

      • http://cafe.themarker.com/user/235356/ Shahar Luft

        This basically is the counter-reformation, along with its emphasis on signalling emotional authenticity (cf. what historians say was the church’s innovative use of ritual and the cult of the Virgin in early modernity), and its attendant well-learned, well-behaved and totally brainwashed Jesuits. It’s all calibrated of course for a different technological age with different organizational possibilities, as you imply. I couldn’t go into too much history – the Spec isn’t HP (where I’ve been on about this stuff for a while).

      • milford

        Excuse me for interrupting but this type of discussion is exactly why I read the Speccie. I’m getting a proper education here this morning. Please do go on.

    • milford

      That’s one of the best posts I’ve ever read. I hope you don’t mind I’m keeping it as a reference. I think you’ve put the whole shebang neatly into a nutshell. Excellent.

    • 2catsmeow

      Wow. My wish is that college Board of Trustees leaned on colleges to assign this post to incoming Freshmen as their ‘Required Reading’

    • Chris

      I’d take my hat off to you if I wore one, absolutely brilliant. Thank you.

    • TheJustCity

      Very good. It does bear observing, though, that rather than just the number of immigrants, the fact that the vast majority are Muslim men is not less the issue. Were these immigrants of the same ethnicity/broad culture but of a christian background, there would have been a different story; perhaps no story. That’s not to make blanket assertions about all muslim men, but we must not let the truth be a casualty in the process of making a (good) point.

    • Hagen vanTronje

      You made some very astute comments, I myself have wondered how long we will have a free Internet ?
      I reckon the powers that be, hate us being able to discuss stuff at will.

  • john holmes

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3iki9m_the-real-truth-why-the-refugees-are-flooding-europe-soon-america-canada-ect_news see what really happens when you let thousands of Muslim refugee’s/Migrant’s/Asylum seeker’s into your country! Close the Border’s and deport these Refugee’s back to the Middle East before it’s to late!

    • bchguyx

      Or issue a pistol to every able bodied adult, like they do in Israel. Or the USA. A disarmed society cannot survive Muslim immigration.

      • Copyright101

        Odd then that jews are at the forefront of measures to disarm white people. Surveys show their support for gun control is always stronger than that of the natives.

        • Hagen vanTronje

          You are quite correct, jews are extremely busy in many aspects of USA society, sometimes for the good it must be said ! but other times for causes that are ant-white folk.
          What bothers me is when any group gets so much power unrelated to their actual numbers in society.
          Jews control Banking, Media, Lobbying.
          These three groups make and guide Government policy !

  • milford

    This kind of article was a conspiracy theory one year ago, now it’s actual real-life news. This proves to me that many of these conspiracy theories may be actually the truth they’re not telling us. Not to worry, they do tell us, eventually – when it’s too late.

    • FGMisNOTOK

      I agree; like Obama being a Muslim (which he denies… but it seems he IS); and Angela Merkel being the daughter of Hitler after Mengele used the former’s frozen sperm. And it goes on. Once I dismissed them out of hand; now, given what’s been happening — I dismissing NOTHING out of hand. (Just because someone is a conspiracy theorist; doesn’t mean they’re wrong)

      • milford

        …and 9/11 being an inside job, fabricating a reason to bomb most of the Middle East.

        • RWJetzt

          Not exactly an inside job. Israel did it. Although it was through their occupation/puppet govt.

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            More a false flag.

  • global city

    There is a solution….at least as far as those female writers who have been justifying or explaining away these events. Instead of just twisting the issue until the problems point to Europeans and European society, just contribute to the needs of the sexual jihad? If these poor migrants are bewildered and frustrated, do something practical to alleviate the problem.

    The problem with virtue signalling is that people can rightly dismiss it as empty words with no deeds to follow them up. The sisterhood can work to alleviate the problem by organising comfort women from within their own ranks, rather than expect young girls to put up with molestation.

  • Sarka

    Note to the Speccie. I like the Speccie and in recent years have read and sometimes participated in quite good discussions BTL.
    However, sad to say, in recent months there has been an infestation of BTL discussion on various important themes by very strange dotty people who go on and on about Jews all the time. The infestation has got so chronic that some pretty good commenters are now just staying away. I know moderation is expensive and time-consuming, and easily becomes heavy-handed, but I do appeal to the editors to make BTL here not a “safe space” (FFS No!) but just a relatively “sane space” again.

    • RWJetzt

      Ah, yes, the typical tactic of your kind. We can’t have a single comments board on the internet where free speech is allowed, the Spectator should become exactly like all other newspaper threads, where free speech is allowed – apart from when it begins to question that very particular, very special minority.

      I wouldn’t bother getting that DNA test you were speaking of in an earlier thread, it’s more than confirmed in my mind.

      Of course, if this was a liberal making the same argument as you – people say things I don’t like, ban them! – you’d be on it like a fly on sh!t, complaining about the ‘fascists’, new Naaaaarrrzzziiiiis und so weiter. Pathetic.

      • Penny

        If only you were saying “things”. But you’re not. You’re just obsessing over one single issue. It may be the very thing that motivates your entire life, but it’s utterly boring to others. Your obsession and paranoia about Jews makes you see everything through a single lens – Sarka would write the same if you were train spotters.

        • RWJetzt

          Who defines what is an ‘obsession’ over a particular issue, Penny? Would it be your good self, by any chance? And do you apply these standards objectively, for example when every single thread on every single Spectator article devolves into a huge session declaring the massive incompatibility with ‘The Muslims!’ ‘The Left!’. Funnily enough, you don’t seem to apply the same criteria when it comes to endless tedious repetition of the same memes about THOSE two groups, but when it comes to the protected group, your standards change. Proving my point, and that you’re an enormous hypocrite to boot.

          • Penny

            Well, what is the definition of obsession? The Oxford dictionary would have it that obsession is “An idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person’s mind”. I think that is an apt description in your case – and that of your chums.

            How do you know what criteria I apply when reading comments? You presume too much, about too much. That is evident from some of your comments here.

            And how do you know what criteria the Spectator applies? I have no idea how long you have hovered over this site, but if it is long enough then you will see that posters who clog up the place with over-long and frequent comments about Muslims and the Left were eventually blocked. But even those didn’t match your standard of repetitiveness.

            What you cannot seem to get through your head is that objecting to you and your friends has nothing to do with any desire to protect anyone. You would like it to be – bit it isn’t the case. If you posted one or two comments a day – fine. But you don’t. You literally invade and take over the space and still say nothing new. Even the insults are becoming boringly predictable.

      • Sarka

        I don’t mind you having your little say, but as with every kind of conversation on stuff, if there is a set of people talking enjoyably on a subject, e.g. in a pub, there’s no problem, indeed there is a virtue, in there being plenty of different opinions and even some passionate disagreements….However, if a group of loud-mouth mono-thematic, monomaniacal drunks turn up and just bla on and on…clearly not interested in any exchange of views but only in abusive ranting (ya…you’re a Jew, go get a test bla bla,), and not interested in contributing but only in dominating, then – alas – they just spoil it for everyone else… which is effing annoying and causes people just to get their coats and leave. In these cases the host may well think it a good thing (and not out of contempt for free speech), to warn those drunks or even, if they do not calm down, to exclude them.

        • RWJetzt

          Your metaphor, while amusing, doesn’t work as you’re incapable of accepting that people with our worldview aren’t drunk, or stupid – au contraire, they are more than capable of engaging with you and explaining why we believe what we believe, as we have repeatedly proved on this discussion. It is you who seems the incontinent one, for you have yet to prove yourself able to construct a single logical argument, rather you rely on misquotes (‘ya, you’re a Jew, go get a test bla bla’) or slurs (‘you need to get out more’, et al). Perhaps it’s you who has had too much to drink/think, Madam?

          For all the bluster about being a free speech loving conservative that you love to shower these comments threads with, you sure do have a problem with being able to engage intellectually with anything we say, as either from Pavlovian training or from rational self-interest, you immediately try to shut down your interlocutor either by calling them the magical silencing terms, or failing that trying to action a ban. It’s what makes you a pathetic hypocrite in my eyes, and in that of any reasonable conservative.

          • Sarka

            Double fail. Not only am I not Jewish, but I’m not a conservative either. I’m left of centre I’m afraid. So – off you go and think up a few different insults…

    • Copyright101

      Whine. Whine. Whine.

      It’s not fair! We’re supposed to allowed to kvetch about Muslims. No one is supposed to talk about jews. Its annudah shoah, oy vey!

    • Eric Cartman

      Yes! Shades of StormFront.

  • Cobbett

    And it’s only going to get worse.

    • bchguyx

      Don’t worry, the police will protect you. Just ask any 13 year old girl in Rotherham.

      • Cobbett

        Like I would ever ask them to. They are only here to protect the System.

        • bchguyx

          and the Muslims, or “Asians” as you Brits call them….I usually refer to them as goatphuckers

      • Hagen vanTronje

        What really alarmed me was the report of the underage Rotherham girl who was being abused by Pakistanis, told her Father about the abusers.
        Father went to the Rotherham Polis to report the crime and He was arrested, the sexual abuse of his Daughter continued !

        • William_JD

          Yep, the Left is evil.

  • Larry Love

    Once the bad guys outnumber the policia, it’s time to admit you need to protect youselves and get armed. The policia is not all around you. Whatever you are allowed in your country, a gun, taser, boxcutter, a cane with an ice-pick inside,,, get one and prepare to use it to help youself and victims in case it’s needed.

    • bchguyx

      And you people make fun of we Americans for holding on to our guns. If that had been the Houston or Dallas train station, there would have been a pile of dead Muslims, and 600 safe women.

      • Hagen vanTronje

        Recent reports show that over two and a half thousand Muslim males organised themselves through social media to go to Cologne and attack white skinned Women..

        • Mow_the_Grass

          So where were you ‘white skinned’ male eurotrash – to protect your ‘white skinned Women’
          Hiding??

          • William_JD

            It’s illegals for German men to defend their people and country.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Studded board?

  • http://www.sierrapundit.com/ John Reece

    I take frequent leftist ‘xenophobia’ usage as a symptom of the opposite psychiatric issues: ethnic self-loathing and obsessive-compulsive xenofetishism. Xenofetishism, like other fetishes, such as a foot fetish or snake fetish, leads to all sorts of creepy behavior.

  • George

    The Left have always claimed that “the establishment” would lie and cheat in order to protect its power.

    Well, now that the Left are the establishment, they too lie and cheat in order to protect their ideology of hatred of western society and their culture-destroying policy of relentless Muslim immigration to Europe.

    It’s actually hard to believe that western governments would accommodate Islamist barbarism by covering up Muslim crimes. Yet cover up they did. As we now know, they covered up in Germany and in Sweden, but these cover-ups were as nothing to what happened in Britain.

    For years in Rotherham, the authorities turned a blind eye to the highly organised sexual abuse of children by Muslim men. Even to this day the British media refuse to refer to the Rotherham crimes as crimes committed by Muslims. They are crimes, the media say, committed by Asians, much to the anger of Innocent Asian people.

    The British authorities were happy to allow the sexual abuse in Rotherham to continue, and to allow relentless Muslim immigration to continue, without any thought as to how it all might end. The only important principle was that Muslims must not be offended.

    In fact the only people who were speaking the truth about Rotherham were the BNP. As the writer Sam Harris puts it, only the fascists are speaking the truth about what Muslim immigration is doing to Europe.

    European governments lie about crimes committed by Muslims because they want to fool the public about the truth of large-scale Muslim immigration, which is that large-scale Muslim immigration Islamises Europe.

  • FGMisNOTOK

    Here is a quote from a Swedish woman, whose name I shall withhold for obvious reasons. I
    extracted it from a comments site elsewhere and responded to her with links to suppliers of self-protection sprays:
    “Here in Sweden, we are SICK of the rape. It is absolutely everywhere, every day. It is so horrible. My family was driven from our home in 2013 because of the threats from Muslims, and me nearly
    being raped in a market. It is just a horrible, nightmarish reality here. It has broken my heart so many times over. I am trying to stay safe. I live in the countryside now… I know nobody. I contemplated suicide on and off for two very, very long years since. I only hope and hope and hope.”

    • bchguyx

      She can move to the USA. I believe Mr. Trump will be offering asylum to white Swedish and German women, as well as British girls 10-18 in the USA to protect them from the rapists that their governments refuse to acknowledge. Once they’re settled in, they’ll be able to bring their families and the caliphate can have Sweden, Germany and the UK.

      • FGMisNOTOK

        Do you know, I think that would be a GREAT idea. And I’ll bet she would go in a heartbeat — since Sweden has betrayed its people and given the country away to rapists and pillagers. (And I’m a fan of Trump…)

      • Cobbett

        Yeah…she can get gang raped by African-Americans instead.

    • William Bell

      A modest suggestion: the Swedish government should allow Swedish women to carry concealed firearms.

      • FGMisNOTOK

        It WASN’T firearms; merely LEGAL self defence spray (red goopy stuff; not even pepper sprays). Thought at least she could carry this with her.

      • FGMisNOTOK

        Sorry, misread your post. You were suggesting they be ALLOWED to carry firearms. And I agree with you. Ignore my other post.

  • Flying Blogger

    It is time to drop the xenophobic nonsense. It has become apparent that fear of Islam has firm basis in reality. The shear misogyny of their views on women is enough to validate their threat and now we have evidence of them acting out on the populations they are migrating in to. They are sexually sick about women and also think female children are fair game. Then, take a look at Sharia Law. If you are not scared yet, you have not been paying attention. It is time to stop insulting the mental health of people who object to these behaviors. It is the mental health of the people pushing this, that we should be questioning.

    • William Bell

      The mentality of those enabling it is even more perverse.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      No dogs or Muslims.

      • Cobbett

        Dogs are cute.

  • bchguyx

    The left has a war on women, in effect. Since standing up for women may cost them political points with voters (ie: help the Sweden Democrats), they throw women under the bus. I sincerely believe these people have gone mad with “anti-white” racism. Any crime can be tolerated, ignored, excused so long as the perpetrator is Muslim. Disgusting, revolting and counter-productive. The coming backlash will show these leftist idiots what real racism is.

    • Germainecousin

      A superb point and so well made. The left will as you say throw women, gays, Christians etc under any bus in favour of Muslims. They have to be seen for what they are, people intent on finishing Western culture.

    • cremaster

      As Mark Steyn puts it: “Women and gays are beneath Muslims on the diversity totem pole”

      • RWJetzt

        Who’s at the top of the diversity totem pole?

        • barnburner

          Today it’s transgenders….the most “oppressed” of the “oppressed” de jure.

          • RWJetzt

            Really? How did transgenders get so much power? They don’t seem like natural leaders to me.

  • Son_of_Casandra

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    Niddah, Chapter Five, Mishnah Four

    Mishnah Four

    1. A girl of the age of three years and one day may be betrothed by intercourse and if a yavam had intercourse with her, he acquires her thereby.

    2. One can be liable for adultery with her;

    3. And she defiles the one who had intercourse with her so that he in turn conveys uncleanness to a couch underneath as to a cover above.

    4. If she was married to a priest, she may eat terumah.

    5. If any of the disqualified men have relations with her he disqualifies her from the priesthood.

    6. If any of the forbidden relatives found in the Torah had relations with her he is to be executed on her account, but she is exempt [from the penalty].

    7. If she was younger than this age, intercourse with her is like putting a finger in the eye.
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    • Dr_Eigenvector

      Ah, look what just slithered out from under it’s rock.

      The big man. Top boy. The big kahunah.

      No protection from the mods here, Son, you putrid, festering sack of ****.

      I hope you’ve taken your meds down there in your Mum’s basement.

      You’re gonna need ’em!

      http://i.imgur.com/rlORBLL.gif

    • Berel Dov Lerner

      Brilliant – you quote (without understanding) a legal text written 1600 years ago which discusses certain technical legal consequences of a hypothetical situation. And, of course, it belongs to a legal tradition which has continued to develop and change throughout those 1600 years. It’s like quoting English common law from the days they used to hang thieves and pretend it has some bearing on life in the contemporary UK.

      • Copyright101

        Care to give us the current theological position then?

      • Son_of_Casandra

        Talmud (Berakhot 60b)

        Morning Prayers (birkhot ha-shahar)

        “Blessed are you O God, King of the Universe, Who has not made me a goy [Gentile]”

        “Blessed are you O God, King of the Universe, Who has not made me a slave”

        “Blessed are you O God, King of the Universe, Who has not made me a woman”
        http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/three-blessings/

        • RWJetzt

          Ahhh, Jews. Our greatest ally!

          • Cobbett

            Ah, sarcasm…i was wondering.

          • Berel Dov Lerner

            Pretty good. It took you less than 17 hours to realize that your fellow hater was being sarcastic.

          • Cobbett

            Nope….only saw it this morning. what is a ”hater”?

          • Berel Dov Lerner

            Give it 17 hours, I’m sure the answer will come to you.

        • Berel Dov Lerner

          Of course, in those blessings, the man is praising God for imposing more religious obligations on him than if he were a woman, the free man praises God for imposing more religious obligations on him than on the Jewish slave, the Jewish slave praises God for having imposed more religious obligations on him than are imposed on a gentile. Would you prefer that Judaism be the kind of religion which demands everyone else play by its rules? Now, dear whoever-it-is-who-cowers-behind-the-silly-name-“Son-of-Cassandra” please listen: looking for things to hate is a silly way to learn about a religion you don’t understand.

          • Son_of_Casandra

            Jewish Encyclopedia

            Kol Nidre

            All vows, obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called ‘konam,’ ‘konas,’ or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the NEXT (whose happy coming we await), we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, ANNULLED, AND VOID, AND MADE OF NO EFFECT…
            http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/9443-kol-nidre

          • Berel Dov Lerner

            That has got to be the worst attempt at quoting out of context in the history of antisemitic propaganda. Don’t you realize that if people actually open the link and read the article they will discover how ridiculous you are? Please, oh pimpled-faced-kid-hiding-in-your-basement-watching-porn-and dreaming-of-being-the-next-Hitler – get a life!!!!!

          • Son_of_Casandra

            KOL NIDRE

            By: Joseph Jacobs, Max Schloessinger, Cyrus Adler, Francis L. Cohen
            http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/9443-kol-nidre

          • Berel Dov Lerner

            Sorry, I mistook you for a human being. Apparently you are a bot which has entered into a loop of citing the same article over and over again regardless of what people write in response. Please contact your programmer to fix your bug.

          • Son_of_Casandra

            The 613 Mitzvot

            No. 598 (P188): Wipe out the descendants of Amalek – Deut. 25:19 (The extinction of the seed of Amalek)
            https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/613_mitzvot.html

          • Copyright101

            Can we have an accurate version then please, with a link to it. So that these misunderstandings don’t arise in the future.

          • Berel Dov Lerner

            The links he gave are fine. It’s just a question of understanding what they’re talking about. As I said – read the link he gave for Kol Nidre and you will find an article contextualizing the quote,

        • Cobbett

          You do know there is no god don’t you?

        • Berel Dov Lerner

          I can’t believe I wasted my time trying to educate this fool and now my comments have been deleted.

      • Cobbett

        Child abuse abuse seems to be endemic within the Jewish Ultra-Orthodox community. Why would that be?

    • Dr_Eigenvector

      Eww.

      Gross.

    • http://floridawasp.wordpress.com/ floridawasp

      Cool history lesson…..is it hoards of Jews attacking innocent girls and women in Germany and Sweden?

      • Copyright101

        No, it’s jews who let the attackers in. Its jews who won’t let us throw them out.

        A small example:

        Jews in Britain are far less likely to vote UKIP or BNP than the white British voter. Far less likely to vote FN than the average white French voter. But its not just votes. Real jewish power doesnt reside in their power as a voting bloc but instead in their influence via media, politics.

        Ooops, my bad! They don’t have any influence in any of that stuff. So we just have to look at their voting patterns – patterns which show them as a real weak link in any attempt to throw out the invaders. In fact they vote much like any other immigrant group. Fancy that!

        • Mow_the_Grass

          With each post your whining gets more pathetic.
          Grow up and act like a big girl instead of a simpering little pre pubescent.
          Ya – we all know its because of them joooooos that you live on a housing estate and that food stamps are your lot on life.
          Them jooooos – they control everyting
          G’dam imbecile (you are an embarrassment to the others)
          Go get some new material – we here are tired of the same crap day in/day out.

          • Cobbett

            Yep, you’re right. A bit like complaining about ‘Feminism’…after all is only women for fcuk’s sake.

          • Copyright101

            The absurd jewish mindest in a nutshell.

            If we do nothing we’re dhimmis, if we even start to talk about facing the issues – we’re naazis! And thus we can’t win under the paradigm you allow us. And thus we have to remove you from the debate – and all white nations.

            Any actual conservatives left inhabiting these threads might want to reflect on that.

          • Mow_the_Grass

            How do you manage to alert all the other @sslickers to get over and uptick all your ‘profound’ words of wisdom.
            Are you girlies still sitting huddled together in an internet cafe.
            Bunch of losers which measure their useless existance in terms of upticks.
            Pathetic really.

        • Cobbett

          Voting won’t make any difference will it? Only by showing the invaders that they’re not welcome and their presence in Europe will not be tolerated .

          This is a start;
          http://www.indiatimes.com/news/world/german-gangs-are-beating-up-syrians-after-immigrants-sexually-assault-germany-s-women-249310.html

          Jewish ‘power’ is illusionary….just like that of women, once you refuse to tolerate their nonsense… it’s gone, just like that.

          • Copyright101

            I’m using voting as a rough proxy for anti-immigration sentiment, even if voting did nothing.

            Online hasbarats are always telling us that jews are on our side, that its European suicide thats the issue. But if we look at voting patterns, then jews in Europe are waay less against immigration than the natives. And thus, as usual, they are caught in a lie.

    • Well Done

      Utter BS, off topic, and, utter BS. But you know all that.

  • gda

    As long as the Sweden Democrats are considered untouchables, Sweden will continue to deny reality.

    How stoopid can you be? As the Swedes are demonstrating – incredibly stoopid.

    • Hagen vanTronje

      Sweden has been neutral for centuries after being thoroughly ravaged in medieval wars, the inhabitants have grown tame and docile so accept what their government tells them.
      When their government advises that there will be a programme of Mass immigration, there was muttering but no revolt and when a popular Swedish Rock Group started to sing songs about Identity, freedom, etc. their Studio received a nocturnal visit from persons unknown and was blown up, so they mellowed their tone.
      The Rape problem has been known about for decades, I heard about it back in the 1990’s when I was working there, the Polis were told to play down rape cases, just like Rotherham.
      The Swedes are not stupid, they are a quiet, generous, cautious folk and like their cousins the Yorkshiremen, long suffering ! but if you push too hard the backlash will be massive.

      • http://www.sandiegoteam.org jjs110

        Exactly. And that’s where we’re headed at full speed. Be it in Germany, Sweden, or any other European country (even Switzerland, for God’s sake!), since the police is not doing its job of protecting the citizenry against hordes of savages who believe they own the place, the citizens themselves are going soon to take matters in their own hands, and it will be bloody. The backlash will lead to the violent death of many migrants. Coming from the most sexually repressed part of the world, their culture demands violence against any non-Muslim man who merely approaches a Muslim woman, but non-Muslim women are fair game as free sexual outlets because they are infidels. It never occurs to these primitives that European men do not appreciate to see their women molested, assaulted and raped, i.e. treated as sexual chattel. The response is simmering, and unless the authorities come to their senses and send back all the migrants arrived in the last two years, there is going to be a big and bloody explosion. The current government is creating what it fears the most, i.e. a right-wing government. They’re calling for their own destruction, and when it happens, they will have deserved it.

        • Hagen vanTronje

          My thoughts on this are simple, if there ever does come a civil war, Christian versus Muslims then we have to make damn sure that we win this war !

  • Sue Smith
  • https://twitter.com/polleetickle Polleetickle

    And there was me thinking the progressives-cum-liberals that penned this media bus loved the societal destruction of nations with Monarchs?

  • henryroot

    This reminds me of Rotherham where men were described as “Asian” although we all knew where the majority originated and their religion.

    Please stop referring to Migrants, and realize that it stands for something else beginning with ‘M’, that big white elephant in the room even the spectator seems petrified to mention.

    • Arnold_Laine

      I’d wondered about that. I didnt know if it was just a difference in semantics or if they were trying to cover up they fact they were ME immigrants.

    • RWJetzt

      Who is herding this big white elephant?

  • Monica Riggs

    Obstruction of Justice. Those whom tried to cover it up, should be publicly FLOGGED AND WORSE. This was an outright assault, against the MATRIARCHS. Gender motivated Dehumanizing hate.

  • trobrianders

    The “grotesque” contradictions in modern feminist discourse, namely the tendency to excuse Muslim violence against women, was in fact a form of racism. Feminists should not “patronise” Muslims by apologising for their intolerance and crimes.
    Alice Schwarzer, German ‘second wave’ feminist
    As a non-white I’ve always known the vilest racists reside on the Left.

  • Generic Engineer

    the feminists have turned all the men in Europe into cuckolds. I’m never going to stop laughing

    • Marvin

      Are they doing all the raping? or is it that they just detest all men.

    • Cobbett

      Not all of us;

      German Gangs Are Beating Up Immigrants After Syrian Refugees Sexually Assault Germany’s Women

      http://www.indiatimes.com/news/world/german-gangs-are-beating-up-syrians-after-immigrants-sexually-assault-germany-s-women-249310.html

    • ADB2

      “I’m never going to stop laughing.”

      Then you’re a half-wit.

      • Arnold_Laine

        Well, in all fairness, there has been quite a bit of America hate flowing out of Europe for the last decade or so. I can see why some in the US would be pissed about it and indifferent to what going on over there. Though I’d personally be more likely to gloat about it on a left leaning type website where the ones responsible for it would be, not sure the point of doing it here where the people seem to have a clue.

        • ADB2

          It’s also a bit stupid when whites in the US are scheduled to be minoritised by about 2050. The situation is just as dire over there as it is here.

          • William_JD

            Try 2030.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    For two years and more, the alternative media has been referring to Sweden as the rape capital of Europe.
    Pat Condell was right.
    The BNP were right.

  • Marvin

    They can throw all the lefty sewage around the facts, but in the end the truth is glaring them in the face, and the invasion of these primitive uncontrollable lawless savages are the cause of this odious situation.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      Yes, Capitalists like you…

      • Well Done

        Oh, look, a Marxist. That’s where the idea of “capitalism” is from. Up until the demented German pseudo-intellectual came up with his insane BS, we called it “business as usual”. Karly found a way to “other” normal people. His shash has done more damage to Western Civ than any other force. Kindly stash it before we stash it for you.

        • Copyright101

          demented German pseudo-intellectual

          Demented jewish pseudo-intellectual. FTFY.

        • Leon Wolfeson

          You’re a Marxist? I see. As you show your lack of knowledge of history, as you ramble on about “shash” and your personalities threaten me.

          I’m, in fact, pro-free market, which you of course bitterly oppose…

  • Cobbett
    • ADB2

      Thank God not all young Swedes have been indoctrinated into self-destruction. The encouraging part is that those Swedes still possessing a survival instinct will do things like avoid immigrants areas, travel in groups for self-protection and so on. Their liberal counterparts, on the other hand, will skip along like lambs to the slaughter – unless they overcome their conditioning first.

      Whether by “conversion” or simple culling, far-right Swedes will eventually outnumber far left ones.

      • Arnold_Laine

        Look up “welcome to Sweden” on youtube by “angry foreigner”. I think they’re getting pretty sick of it. Lets hope they remember they were once people who bred Vikings, though I’ve heard that their indoctrination is pretty profound there.

  • Arnold_Laine

    I’d be willing to bet the leftist media covering up the crimes of preferred demographics to promote their vapid agenda is fairly universal. Here in the US, watching the nightly news or CNN, you’d think that the main perpetrators of crimes were evil white men… until you turned on the local news, or looked at the FBI crime stats, or the crimes stats of a place like Baltimore or Atlanta. One look at the most wanted list in Sweden tells you whats going on there. At this point I think its gotten to where these cover ups are more of a desperate, strident spasm, as all they worked for is starting to fall apart, and its becoming evident to most that the lefts plans were just as stupid as all those on the right said they were this whole time. Also, I suppose they’re trying to shovel in as many left leaning voters as they can while they can.

    • ADB2

      The problem with the “Leftist” narrative was that eventually, reality would overtake the propaganda. Eventually, enough people experience the “benefits of diversity” to establish a societal (as opposed to individual) counter-narrative to the official propaganda.

      Simply put, the MSM and politician’s lies stop working, and they are looking more and more irrelevant and divorced from reality by the day. What comes next is more and more censorship and “hate-speech” laws to try and shut down alternative media, “intolerant” Facebook messages and so on. It won’t work, but the political class will double down until the whole thing collapses in chaos.

      • Arnold_Laine

        Yep. Political correctness is nothing more than an attempt to control dialog and suppress dissent by claiming its racism or bigotry and such.

        It was very successful is Sweden, I mentioned a video down below “welcome to Sweden” by angry foreigner where he gives some details on this happening there. They even took demographic information out of their crime reports quite some time back so that people would have less information about what was going on.

        And those hate speech laws are simply insane, I cant believe that countries have passed them.

  • tom kincade

    The swedesvanr Germans and all the anti freedom of speech brigade and the PC brigade mummy’s boys deserve all they get all had been self inflicted

    • ADB2

      All Swedes? All Germans? How about the teenage girls in Northern English towns groomed and sold into sexual slavery by Muslim grooming gangs? Do they deserve it, too?

    • William_JD

      It is not self-inflicted. It is imposed from the outside.

  • Spivy

    And this is the country that wants to put Julian Assange on trial for attempted rape, with no evidence whatsoever. This tells you everything about the fit-up he’s subjected to. What a complete and utter farce. It will blow up in the face of Sweden, and when the sh** hits the fan the immigrants will pay the price.

  • Bob_Villain

    DIE WELT, 09 September 2015

    “We are glad that there are far more people who welcome the refugees as those who reject it openly…The Jewish community in Germany and around the world, welcomes this move towards an open society. THIS IS IN OUR FAVOR.” – Ronald S. Lauder, President of the WORLD JEWISH CONGRESS (WJC) and Dr. Josef Schuster, President of the CENTRAL COUNCIL OF JEWS IN GERMANY and vice president of the WJC
    http://www.welt.de/debatte/kommentare/article146203997/Wir-Juden-wissen-wie-bitter-Flucht-ist.html

    • Richard

      No Jews I have spoken to support the mass-immigration into Europe of millions of Muslims. These people are speaking for themselves, in an effort to get PC brownie-points.

      • Copyright101

        Then they are highly atypical. White Brits are vastly more likely to vote BNP or UKIP than any jew living here. Ditto white French people and the FN.

        Plus we have the public pronouncements of various jewish groups in Europe supporting mass-immigration. I’m not aware of any opposing it.

        So what form does this jewish anti-immigrant sentiment take?

        • Richard

          I cannot answer that question. I can merely tell you what has been communicated to me in conversations. Israeli Jews feel very strongly about it. The UK is tyrannised by PC, and I suspect Jews are very susceptible. They will be attacked from the Left if they say anything, which presumably will feed into the anti-Israel rhetoric, and then attacked by the Right if they don’t say anything. Jewish voting patterns in the UK mirror the general voting pattern, and are no more Left than other white people. I suppose if things can be done anonymously, they will speak out, but are hesitant to make attributable comments.

          • Copyright101

            Israeli Jews feel very strongly about it.

            Curious isnt it. They feel very strongly about it and the Israeli government concurs.

            So jews here are even more susceptible to PC than the majority population yet it its the PC version of policy that is enforced.

            Which means, consciously or not, jews are getting the policies they want and we are not.

          • Richard

            Jews presumably feel vulnerable. I don’t know that they are more susceptible to PC, but I think they are afraid to express and opinion. Imagine, if you would, that a prominent Jew were to say, “We need to clamp down on these migrants severely, and send them home.” Such a person would be attacked by the Left, and by the EU. They would say they were putting the existence of Jews in Europe at risk. Would the Right find them any more attractive? I doubt it. It seems to me to be a case of being between the devil and the deep blue sea. So they play it safe, and those who are vocal are Lefties, because along with the rest of Leftie-dom, they know they will be supported by the media and all the important parts of society. There is simply not the support in the UK for any opinions other than Leftie ones. That is the real indictment here.

          • Copyright101

            So they feel vulnerable. Why is their feeling of vulnerability pandered to but ours is not?

          • Richard

            But is it pandered to? I can’t see that it is, at least, not specifically apart from the usual Leftie pandering.

      • Bob_Villain

        Center For Immigration Studies, October 2001

        The Jewish Stake in America’s Changing Demography

        “It is simply astounding to contemplate the recent historical rise in Mexican immigration. In 1970, there were fewer than 800,000 Mexican immigrants; 30 years later the number is approaching 9 million, a 10-fold increase in one generation….

        The Jewish community is thus in a position where it will be able to DIVIDE AND CONQUER and enter into SELECTIVE COALITIONS that support OUR AGENDAS.” – Dr. Stephen Steinlight, Senior Policy Analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies and former National Affairs Director at the AMERICAN JEWISH COMMITTEE (AJC)
        http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html

        AMERICAN JEWISH COMMITTEE, September 2012

        Page 5

        Jewish political influence will depend upon establishing PARTNERSHIPS AND COALITIONS with other ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS GROUPS. Such ALLIANCES build understanding and trust while advancing MUTUAL INTERESTS.
        http://web.archive.org/web/20150910111023/http://www.ajc.org/atf/cf/%7Bf56f4495-cf69-45cb-a2d7-f8eca17198ee%7D/PARTICIPANTS%20GUIDE%20REV.PDF
        http://www.ajc.org/site/c.7oJILSPwFfJSG/b.8467015/k.CC42/Immigration_Reform.htm

        • Richard

          I have no doubt that individuals will voice those opinions. My visits to the US have demonstrated Jews of a much more Leftist orientation than the UK, to be honest. In South Africa, similar sentiments were voiced by English-speakers. The Anglican Church was the most vociferous in its support of the communists. However, I don’t believe they spoke for the majority of their white congregants.

          • Bob_Villain

            Forward, 26 June 2013

            Jews Unite Behind Push for Immigration Reform

            Ethics and SELF-INTEREST Drive Unusual Nationwide Effort

            “It’s the ethical thing to do,” said HIAS [HEBREW IMMIGRANT AID SOCIETY] president and CEO Mark Hetfield, of the community’s immigration reform activism. But he quickly added, “It’s in our STRATEGIC INTEREST.”
            http://forward.com/articles/179296/jews-unite-behind-push-for-immigration-reform/?p=all#ixzz2m9ob0u2K

          • Richard

            Like I say, I have no doubt that PC individuals will say things like that. In South Africa, an American student was murdered in the early 1990s called Amy Biehl. Her parents flew out from California and forgave the killers before they had said a word, and from what I remember gave them money. Immediately. They were not Jews, but were extremely PC people from California. Presumably they were feted by the Lefties, and it gave them considerable kudos. The world is full of such people, and one knows in whose interests they work: their own. Make no mistake, PC credentials are the most powerful things you can possess in this Leftie age.

  • Bob_Villain

    THE TIMES OF ISRAEL, 11 September 2015

    The president of the CENTRAL COUNCIL OF JEWS IN GERMANY, Josef Schuster, said this week that the European Union and Germany “have a duty to help the refugees who are fleeing from war or persecution. The Jewish community in Germany SIDES WITH THE [MUSLIM] REFUGEES and has started a lot of local initiatives to help them.”
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-germany-syrian-refugees-seek-out-a-jewish-welfare-organization/

    • Richard

      Insane man.

  • Roger54

    A country that lets in large numbers of Islamic is a country that is committing national suicide. Any country with large numbers of Islamics rapidly turns into a crudhole.

  • Richard

    One reads about how countries and civilisations commit suicide, but very seldom do we get to see it actually unfold. Decolonisation is familiar, and we see countries like South Africa slowly disintegrating, but never have I seen a country kill itself voluntarily and from a position of strength.

    One thing is certain: the UK must leave the EU, and it must not allow itself to be forced to take migrants. Time to tear up the 1951 convention, and start looking after ourselves. With people like Corbyn, though, apparently so massively popular, does this country have the wherewithal to do anything other than hand out more and more benefits and sink deeper and deeper into the mire?

    • Copyright101

      Its not suicide it’s murder.

      We don’t have our own politicians, we don’t have our own media.

      • Richard

        The Germans clapping and handing out sweet at railway stations were there out of choice. They decided to do those things. If Britain wanted its own media, it would have retained it. Greed and stupidity have led this country to sell its assets off to Qatar, for example. Nobody forced that. It was a choice made by a government voted in by an electorate. This country voted Labour and Blair into office three times. That was when I lost respect for it.

        • Bob_Villain

          Jewish Telegraphic Agency, 11 August 2014

          Dieter Graumann, head of the CENTRAL COUNCIL OF JEWS, accused the interfaith group of failing to hold up its end of the bargain. The Jewish organization “has ALWAYS STOOD UP FOR MUSLIMS IN GERMANY,” he said.
          http://www.jta.org/2014/08/11/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/frankfurt-jewish-community-drops-out-of-interfaith-council-over-anti-israel-statements

          • Richard

            I can’t speak on behalf of any organisation, or tell you any more than what I have experienced. What I have experienced is Jews being very opposed to what is happening. What these people you cite are doing is akin to what Corbyn is doing, and saying it is in the name of Britain.

          • red2black

            There’s disagreement and a range of opinions within a particular group of people about an important issue.
            That’s fairly normal. Is it really that difficult to see that established immigrant communities can end up in a cleft stick when it comes to a minority of new immigrants from a different culture causing problems for the host nation?

          • Richard

            The issue is that Jews are very prominent Lefties, but that does not mean that all Jews are Lefties. It is balanced, as voting-patterns show. Israel undergoes exactly the same sort of issue, which you would not expect if Jews were acting only in a particular way because of self-interest. Israel is riven with dissent, and Left and Right activism. The only difference is that that is majority Jewish, so ethnicity doesn’t come into the equation. I simply don’t see, and have not experienced, more Leftie-ness among Jews than others in the UK. The US is a different story.

          • red2black

            It’s always puzzled me why they’re so regularly singled out.

          • Richard

            I can understand why. They are very visible in the Leftie community. Apart from that, some people just don’t like the idea of Jews, not for any specific reason, but that is more insidious and harder to penetrate. The main point is that they are successful, and their most prominent people are Leftie.

            But you’d be hard-pressed to find anybody more Leftie than thesps in the UK. I mean, Cumberbatch and his chums?!

          • red2black

            Some people seem to regard almost everyone as ‘Leftie’ to a lesser or greater degree, so I suppose it’s to be expected.

        • Copyright101

          Im not denying there is a good measure of stupidity involved.

          But those Germans, like us, most have of them have spent their entire lives immersed in an all-pervasive environment of anti-white, anti-European, anti-nationalist propaganda.

          • Richard

            And Britain has been in the forefront of doing this to them. It is ludicrous, and very damaging. When I was in Germany, I met groups of Israeli tourists, who have no animus towards Germany of 2015 for what happened seventy years ago. They willingly go there on holiday.

            There are Jews who are anti-West, but there are also plenty of non-Jews who are anti-West. It is trendy to be anti-West. It is pumped into children from the time they start school. A friend of mine (nearly ninety) said that it all started during the War, when soldiers had to be educated as many had only rudimentary skills and literacy. The people who did the training were Lefties (and they weren’t Jews) and this is how the particular perspective that has almost destroyed us came into common currency. He said he saw it happening.

          • Hagen vanTronje

            Harold Wilson started off a five year plan to get Socialists into Teaching, our Neighbour who was a time served Electrician Foreman gave up his job to go to Teacher Training College, he told my Father he wanted to “, influence young minds”
            This is when the Schools in the UK started to go down the pan.

          • Cassandrina

            Plus over this period the German police are used mainly to control the local inhabitants, while the German armed forces are decimated and almost non-existent.

          • Hagen vanTronje

            “”But those Germans, like us, most have of them have spent their entire
            lives immersed in an all-pervasive environment of anti-white,
            anti-European, anti-nationalist propaganda.””

            Germans since around the 1950’s have been bombarded with propaganda telling them all about how bad the Nazis were. I used to work in Duesseldorf with Germans my own age, they used to complain bitterly that they were tarred with the same brush as their Fathers, Grandfathers, etc.
            Germans living in Berlin during the British occupation could be imprisoned for having a knife, this bred resentment and I reckon was responsible for the rise of far left and far right organizations.
            I don’t remember much anti white propaganda but the anti nationalist ptopaganda was immense !
            It’s only in the last few years that Germans felt comfortable in displaying their flag.

        • Hagen vanTronje

          “”The Germans clapping and handing out sweet at railway stations were there out of choice. They decided to do those things

          Rumour has it that they all received 100 euro expenses !

        • William_JD

          You’re blaming the victims. That’s counterproductive.

      • Leftism is a societal cancer

        It’s a combination of both. The Europeans of 50 years would never have willingly allowed this to happen. Quite a lot of them would do so now either out of apathy or self-hatred.

        • William_JD

          Europeans today don’t willingly allow it.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Some don’t. Most are apathetic. Quite a few actively embrace as seen by the Germans who were clapping the arrival of new rapefugees or just by the (horrifying) experience of talking to a Swede.

        • razorrare

          “The Europeans of 50 years ago would never allow this to happen.”

          I will remember that the next time some JQ minimizer claims the baby boomers are our misfortune.

  • Bob_Villain

    Israeli Jewish Congress, 30 May 2014

    Reactions of European Jewish Leaders to European Parliament Elections

    Simon Johnson – CEO, The JEWISH LEADERSHIP COUNCIL

    “The European Parliamentary elections have seen a big swing throughout Europe in favour of EURO-SCEPTIC and ANTI-IMMIGRATION PARTIES. This represents a continuation of a WORRYING TREND towards intolerance which requires CAREFUL MONITORING.”
    http://www.en.ijc.org.il/?p=2500

    JEWISH LEADERSHIP COUNCIL

    • We Believe that the JEWISH PEOPLE have a right to a HOMELAND

    • We Believe in ISRAEL – a JEWISH STATE, a Democratic State – the NATION STATE OF JEWISH PEOPLE!
    http://www.thejlc.org/2015/04/chairs-message-april-2015/

    The JEWISH LEADERSHIP COUNCIL is an umbrella organisation and is the British equivalent of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations.
    http://www.thejlc.org/what-we-do/

  • Bob_Villain

    Jewish News, 10 September 2015

    IN FOCUS: How the Jewish community has mobilised to help [Muslim] refugees [read: migrants and bogus asylum seekers]

    The Jewish community has rallied to the plight of [Muslim] refugees from the Middle East, with David Cameron describing the country’s efforts as “the modern equivalent of the Kindertransport”, writes Stephen Oryszczuk.

    Synagogue movements across the religious spectrum, as well as the major communal organisations and charities, supported the call for money.

    A round-table meeting was convened for Thursday, chaired by BOARD OF DEPUTIES’ [BOARD OF DEPUTIES OF BRITISH JEWS] senior vice-president Richard Verber.

    Among the first to react was Finchley Progressive Synagogue, which began looking for landlords for 50 Syrian refugee families in Barnet, the rent for which will be paid directly by the European Union for two years.

    Elsewhere, at places like West London Synagogue, Alyth Synagogue and New North London Synagogue, networks of volunteers were formed to lay on drop-in centres for [bogus] asylum seekers and refugees [read: migrants], offering hot meals, grocery vouchers, clothing, companionship and ADVICE.

    Several members also went down to HARMONDSWORTH DETENTION CENTRE to make initial contact, while Masorti Young Adults began collecting resources to support [bogus] refugees AHEAD OF THEIR TRIP TO CALAIS over Sukkot.

    At Northwood and Pinner Liberal Synagogue and Borehamwood & Elstree United Synagogue, banners were unfurled, reading “Refugees Welcome,” as clothing and other items were dropped off and collected at places like Mill Hill shul. Many offered their places of worship as temporary night shelters for [bogus] refugees, in the event of an overflow.

    It was the same story across Europe. Across the Channel, French Chief Rabbi Chaim Korsia urged Europe’s leaders to match the actions of non-Jews who saved Jews from the Nazis by welcoming Syrian refugees, while Italian Jewish leader Renzo Gattegna urged the community to provide aid and welcome refugees, as communities in Florence and Milan worked with civic authorities to source accommodation.

    Sir Mick Davis, the head of Cameron’s Holocaust Commission and chairman of the JEWISH LEADERSHIP COUNCIL, said Britain had a “moral imperative” to help…
    http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/in-focus%E2%80%88how-the%E2%80%88jewish-community-has-mobilised-to-help-refugees/

    Note that the BOARD OF DEPUTIES OF BRITISH JEWS and the JEWISH LEADERSHIP COUNCIL support the State of Israel – a State which is building a 30-kilometer fence along the border with Jordan to keep MIGRANTS AND ASYLUM SEEKERS FROM ENTERING ISRAEL.

    THE TIMES OF ISRAEL, 06 September 2015

    Work on a 30-kilometer (18.6-mile) fence along a southern stretch of Israel’s border with Jordan has begun amid efforts to…keep MIGRANTS AND ASYLUM SEEKERS FROM ENTERING THE COUNTRY, Prime Minister BENJAMIN NETANYAHU announced Sunday.

    A fence, replete with sophisticated sensors and regular IDF patrols, ALREADY EXISTS on the northern half of the Israeli-Jordanian border, from the northern edge of the Dead Sea up to the three-way meeting point of Israel, Jordan and Syria near the Sea of Galilee.
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-bolsters-jordan-border-to-keep-out-terrorists-refugees/

    JEWISH LEADERSHIP COUNCIL

    • We believe that the JEWISH PEOPLE have a right to a HOMELAND

    • We believe in ISRAEL – a JEWISH STATE, a Democratic State – the NATION STATE OF JEWISH PEOPLE!
    http://www.thejlc.org/2015/04/chairs-message-april-2015/

    THE BOARD OF DEPUTIES OF BRITISH JEWS

    Speak Out For ISRAEL

    The BoD works closely with the Community’s Israel advocacy organisations to make the case for ISRAEL…
    http://web.archive.org/web/20150227000127/http://www.bod.org.uk/what-we-do/take-action/
    http://www.bod.org.uk/what-we-do/take-action/

    • Richard

      Your previous post to which I was responding disappeared, so I have to paste my response here.

      That is a great deal of information. I can’t commit to reading that, so simply take your word for it. I do remember that Ethiopian business with blood, and that was caused by fears of HIV-positive blood. Are the Palestinian-only buses perhaps a response to terrorism, like banning migrants from pubic swimming-pools in Germany because of the threat of rape? From what I remember when I visited Israel years ago, all marriages are religious, and if a presiding priest can be found who will marry people of different religions, or homosexuals, such a marriage is legal. Perhaps it has now changed, I don’t know. I imagine if Israel is a homeland for Jews, one would be required to prove such identity before being eligible. Some countries, like Holland, will confer citizenship even after centuries, to descendants, if they can prove such descent. Presumably with wars, pogroms and such, there are not that many Jewish records left, and so blood-tests must to used.

      Other items you have mentioned sound like Labour policies.

    • Richard

      Certainly it seems that Jewish bodies in Europe have gone Left, whilst those in Israel have not. Why this is must be as a result of the Second World War. Remember that not all Jews are Israeli, and many do not support Israel.

  • Bob_Villain

    Can anyone name one – just ONE! – Jewish political organisation opposed to Third World immigration into Western Europe, North America and Australasia?

    • Richard

      No. But then I can’t think of any Christian ones, either. The point is that public space in Europe is all taken up by Lefties. People are only allowed to express non-Leftie opinions in the polling station, where it is anonymous.

      • phiIIa12

        Jobbik describes itself as “a principled, conservative and radically patriotic Christian party” on its website.
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32248965

      • phiIIa12

        Richard,

        There are plenty of Gentile political organisations opposed to Third World immigration into Western Europe, North America and Australasia but, it seems, no Jewish political organisations opposed Third World immigration.

        Question: Why are there no Jewish political organisations opposed to Third World immigration into Western Europe, North America and Australasia?

    • Well Done

      I can name one dingleball who must have lost his girlfriend to “the joos”. You, bob. That would be you.

  • Bob_Villain

    Jewish Telegraphic Agency, 13 February 2008

    Jews have been at the forefront of pushing for civil rights in Australia.

    In addition to their activism on Aboriginal issues, Jews were INSTRUMENTAL IN LEADING THE CRUSADE against the WHITE AUSTRALIA POLICY, a series of laws from 1901 to 1973 that restricted non-white immigration to Australia.
    http://www.jta.org/2008/02/13/news-opinion/world/jews-key-to-aboriginal-reconciliation

  • mike_in_brum

    That’s it then! When can we start repatriating the EU migrants?

  • skillet

    Sweden is the Saudi Arabia of feminism.

  • Bob_Villain

    Memorandum from the Board of Deputies of British Jews re immigration and asylum. Note: This is the same organisation that supports the JEWS ONLY* State of Israel.

    House of Commons, 25 March 1999

    Immigration and Asylum Bill

    Memorandum from The Board of Deputies of British Jews

    The Board of Deputies of British Jews welcomes the opportunity to submit our views to the Special Standing Committee in respect of the Immigration and Asylum Bill. As the representative organisation of British Jewry we feel that it is important that we contribute to the debate on this vital legislation. The Board of Deputies was active in LOBBYING THE HOME OFFICE during the passage of the previous government’s ASYLUM AND IMMIGRATION LEGISLATION.

    The Jewish community is proud of the level of support that it provides to asylum seekers of all race, creed and nationality. Indeed, the Jewish Council for Racial Equality has been one of the LEAD ORGANISATIONS in providing practical support to ASYLUM SEEKERS in London.
    http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm199899/cmstand/special/st990326/90325s21.htm

    THE BOARD OF DEPUTIES OF BRITISH JEWS

    Speak Out For ISRAEL

    The BoD works closely with the Community’s Israel advocacy organisations to make the case for ISRAEL..

    http://web.archive.org/web/20150227000127/http://www.bod.org.uk/what-we-do/take-action/

    * “Israel is the nation-state of the JEWS ONLY.” – Benjamin Netanyahu
    http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-There-is-an-effort-to-undermine-the-Jews-right-to-their-own-state-382895

  • Bob_Villain

    Jewish Chronicle, 19 November 2015

    By Douglas Murray

    During an episode of Question Time last month, the [Jewish] historian Simon Schama made a somewhat haughty and personal attack on my Spectator colleague Rod Liddle. Specifically, he chided Rod (who was urging wariness of letting into the country anybody who wants to come here) for allegedly turning his ”suburban face” away from the troubles of the world. This was a little rich, and I said in print that it is all very well for Professor Schama to swan into Britain and tell us to take millions of migrants because he can always head back to his well-off (and distinctly white) neighbourhood in the US [or make aliyah to the JEWS ONLY* State of Israel].

    When the piece went viral, the replies included an element that was new and seized on an aspect of Schama that never occurred to me. ”ONE LAW FOR THE JEWS, ANOTHER FOR THE REST OF US” was the nub of it. Well, Schama is a distinguished public figure and can say and think what he likes. Nobody else needs to feel responsible for him.

    A couple of weeks later, the Hungarian Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, got into a row with his country’s most successful son. At a time when Orban was under huge pressure from his electorate not to let thousands of migrants into the country, he upbraided George Soros for being behind the many ”open borders” NGOs which were putting pressure on Hungary. In reply, Soros confirmed that, yes, whereas Orban thought migrants the problem and borders the solution, Soros did indeed think borders the problem and migrants the solution.

    In reporting this exchange, the same theme emerged. ”IT’S ALL VERY WELL FOR THE JEWS. THEY HAVE ISRAEL WHERE ONLY JEWS CAN GO AND ALL THE TIME THEY’RE DESTROYING OUR OWN RELIGIOUS AND RACIAL IDENTITY IN EUROPE.”

    And another theme started to come up which I never thought I’d hear in my lifetime: ”Ah – the rootless, cosmopolitan Jew.” Searching online I find that this is indeed becoming a theme. A video watched hundreds of thousands of times on YouTube excerpts an interview with a Jewish academic in Sweden who explains that Europe ”has not yet learned how to be multicultural.”

    She goes on: ”Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role.”

    This remains a minority opinion for now. But here comes the bigger problem. Only seven per cent of Britons surveyed in a recent poll said they wanted immigration into Britain to increase.
    http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/comment/149678/the-real-refugee-problem-bigotry

    * “Israel is the nation-state of the JEWS ONLY.” – Benjamin Netanyahu
    http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-There-is-an-effort-to-undermine-the-Jews-right-to-their-own-state-382895

    • Ofer Imanuel

      That’s bull – check your facts.

      The article quoted was discussing a law (did not pass) to emphasize “the Jewish nature of Israel. That’s quite a bit less than state religion. Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion

      Apparently UK, Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Finland and quite a few others have state church. But we know they are all democracies.

      As for ” Simon Schama” – what does that have to do with anything? You have Jewish liberal, and Jewish conservatives.

      • Copyright101

        Really?

        List all the ‘conservative’ jewish politicians demanding Europe’s borders be closed to mass immigration.

        • johnb1945

          How about you name some European Jewish politicians who have said anything on the matter at all?

          • Copyright101

            As I was saying jewish power is not so invested in the formal political structure, they employ other people to do that for them.

            Here are some jewish representatives throwing their weight behind immigration restriction:

            http://www.thejc.com/node/150953

            http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/146794/call-uk-take-more-refugees

            What we need is a concrete list of jewish politicians and groups who are as anti-immigration (or more so) than the native white population.

            All major political parties, whether nominally left or right, are pro-immigration certainly by their actions and usually by their words. Whereas the average voter is much less so, yet these policies continue. Meanwhile the average jewish voter is much less anti-immigration, Thus jews are closer to the position of the elite (or the elite position is closer to them) than the average voter.

            Maybe that closeness is entirely coincidental but it is undoubtedly there.

            Yet on these threads we’re told that jews are just as divided on these issues or chaffing under pro-immigration rule as the rest of us. That simply is not true.

          • johnb1945

            Jewish conspiracy canard.

            The several Jews I know are Brits, British Jews with no ancestry from anywhere else for multiple generations. They value this country and its ideals. They have no interest in going to Israel except for holidays and they have no interest in seeing this place fundamentally change, potentially to their detriment, either.

            And the “average voter” has very mixed feelings on immigration I would suggest.

          • Enticer26

            Trump 2016…youtube recommended it for me. Oy Vey!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNfomXH3moo

          • johnb1945

            I read your JC articles.

            The NF was, until very recently, a neo fascist anti-semitic party. It probably still has many anti-semitic constituents. Why would French Jews vote for that, whatever they may now be claiming?

            The other article describes the views of Rabbis and Jewish religious leaders (mainly). Charity and hospitality to the poor and oppressed is a big deal in the shared Jewish Christian tradition.

            Of course religious Jews are going to believe in it, same as religious Christians, who are also at the forefront of providing assistance and charity to asylum seekers and refugees.

            Is the Christian clergy also part of this absurd conspiracy to have us overrun?

            This has nothing to do with any conspiracies. It is to do with open hearted charitableness.

          • Copyright101

            Why would French Jews vote for that, whatever they may now be claiming?

            And therein lies the problem.

            French interests are never allowed to compromise jewish interests. Even if we could prove that FN policies were indisputably the best for the French that would null and void because of jewish unhappiness.

            Charity and hospitality to the poor and oppressed is a big deal in the shared Jewish Christian tradition.

            What is this “shared Jewish Christian tradition”?

            Is the Christian clergy also part of this absurd conspiracy to have us overrun?

            The Christian clergy have been increasingly compromised from the top, like all hierarchical organisations. We see the Pope running around assuring jews that all those bits of the bible accusing the jews of wrongdoing are a big mistake.


            This has nothing to do with any conspiracies. It is to do with open hearted charitableness.

            So there is no conspiracy? White nations are all opening their borders because they’re all so caring and love lickle fluffy kittens too? Why do we not see more evidence of this in other policy areas?

            The charity aspects, the deluded liberlas and so on, they are just window dressing. Political elites can point to that when they need to justify certain policies, they are happy to ignore it at other times. After all opinion polls tell us that most people in Europe and the US want a halt to mass immigration. Any mainstream political party who wanted to win an easy victory would exploit that surely? But they don’t, why is that?

          • johnb1945

            what do you mean French interests are never allowed to compromise Jewish interests?

            Are French Jews not French? Are they not allowed to express their interests both as Frenchmen and Jews?

            Why should they vote for a party which is historically full of Nazis?

            Something like 14% of them did vote FN anyway.

          • Dion Benny

            No they are not french. Good on you for sneaking in ‘nazism’.

      • johnb1945

        True. There are regular, self identifying Jewish contributors to this forum who are anything but progressive and multi-cultural and Melanie Philips has been/ is a contributor to the Spectator. As is Hugo Rifkind.

        Some people seem to have difficulty imagining that 15 million people could have a range of political beliefs.

        • Ofer Imanuel

          Can’t say much about European Jews. American Jews are ~2/3 liberal and 1/3 conservative (for example Eric Cantor). Israelis are the other way around – perhaps 2/3 conservatives.

          • johnb1945

            British Jews would historically be thought of as sympathetic to Labour but the left is awash with people who are very critical of Israel so I think they are tending more to conservatism. This is what I read on the topic anyway. I don’t ask the Jewish people I know how they vote!

            In the US Jews are probably put off conservatism by all the Christians fundamentalists.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            “In the US Jews are probably put off conservatism by all the Christians fundamentalists.” – Yes, because they hate Christ and white Christians above all.

    • Well Done

      Yeah, keep snivelling about “the joos”, fool. If you can’t figure out why Israel shouldn’t allow Islamists in, you’re just too busy being a dip.

      • phiIIa12

        Jerusalem Post, 07 January 2014

        ERITREAN migrants resettled from ISRAEL to SWEDEN

        The resettlement…was part of the “ONGOING PROCESS of willful deportation to SWEDEN…”
        http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Eritrean-migrants-resettled-from-Israel-to-Sweden-337414

        Jerusalem Post, 30 June 2011

        Danny Danon [Israeli MK]: Send African migrants to AUSTRALIA

        Send them to live down under.

        “The arrival of thousands of Muslim infiltrators to Israeli territory is a clear threat to the state’s Jewish identity,” Danon told The Jerusalem Post.

        “The refugees’ place is not among us, and the initiative to transfer them to Australia is the right and just solution.”
        http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Danny-Danon-Send-African-migrants-to-Australia

        • johnb1945

          Considering how hostile the countries and cultures those refugees come from are to Israel, I think it would be absolutely crazy for Israel to accept them. And accept them to do what? Israel, a tiny country, has some of the most acute poverty, employment and housing issues in the OECD. It’s not as if they can give them jobs.

          What do you think would happen?
          If you were an Israeli politician, would you think mass influx was a good idea?

          Big up to Australia and Sweden for helping out. They are better positioned to. They also do this of their own volition. Sweden, in particular, could adopt the more pragmatic approach of the UK, or Denmark, for that matter.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Strange how the Jews call them refugees when they are in our countries but infiltrators when in theirs.

          • johnb1945

            The country of British Jews is Britain, not Israel.

            Go figure.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            1. It isn’t. Most of them are recent intruders.

            2. There are groups like the European Jewish Fund

            (http://www.europeanjewishfund.org/index.php?/content/about) which “actively fights xenophobia, antisemitism and racial discrimination and develops proposals and recommendations on reinforcing the fight against these negative phenomena of the modern world.” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_Fund and yet they have this statement on their website:

            “Assimilation is without a doubt an existential threat to European Jewry that is becoming ever graver. The threat must be addressed in a serious manner with programmes that are aimed at reconnecting people with Jewish life.”

            So they are against “racism” and “xenophobia” but not when it comes to Jews it seems.

            We can also note that this is the same organisation that provides funding for the Paideia group (along with the Swedish government) run by the infamous Barbara Spectre who said that Europe needs to become multicultural and that Jews will be at the centre of making that happen.

            This organisation is funded and supported by Jewish billionaire Moshe Kantor (you can see videos of him on the European Jewish Fund’s website) who is also President of both the European Jewish Congress and the European Council on Tolerance and Reconciliation. The European Council on Tolerance and Reconciliation has tried numerous times to make it a criminal act to hold certain political beliefs and to have the state surveil people to find people who hold those believes. See here:

            “The Framework demands the outlawing of “group libel” that it defines as “defamatory comments made in public and aimed against a group…or members thereof, with a view to inciting to violence, slandering the group, holding it to ridicule or subjecting it to false charges.”

            It adds that “group libel” “may appear to be aimed at members of the group in a different time (another historical era) or place (beyond the borders of the State).”

            Subject to criminal sanctions would be any “hate crimes” that would include not only “incitement to violence” but “overt approval of a totalitarian ideology, xenophobia or anti-Semitism.”

            “Members of vulnerable and disadvantaged groups” it adds, “are entitled to a special protection” in addition to the normal legal protections afforded by the state. This “special protection…may imply a preferential treatment” for those identified as “vulnerable”.” – https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-heads-of-state-call-on-eu-to-set-up-state-surveillance-of-intolerant

            So excuse me for thinking that prominent Jews in the media and state institutions are pushing a hypocritical and hostile agenda when their actions, organisations and where they put their money shows that to be the case.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Also it isn’t just “anti-semitism” that they want to eliminate or defeat:

            “The Framework said it hopes to take “concrete action to combat intolerance, in particular with a view to eliminating racism, colour bias, ethnic discrimination, religious intolerance, totalitarian ideologies, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, anti-feminism and homophobia.”” – https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-heads-of-state-call-on-eu-to-set-up-state-surveillance-of-intolerant

      • Copyright101

        We understand why Israel won’t let them in.

        We understand why we shouldnt let them in.

        What we want you to explain hasbarat, is why jews in Europe wont allow us to keep them out.

        • johnb1945

          Since when has Merkel been Jewish?

          • Copyright101

            There are rumours . . 😉

            Wherever one looks one will see non-jewish frontmen (or women) in positions of formal power. But how many of them challenge jewish power – the media/finance axis? None apparently.

          • johnb1945

            Well, there would be rumours, wouldn’t there?

            What else could the practising Lutheran daughter of a Lutheran Pastor be other than a closeted Jew?

            And which particular Jew or axis of Jews is controlling this PhD theoretical physicist who obviously doesn’t know her own mind enough to make her own decisions for which she is entirely and solely responsible?

            Can you name them?

            This outlook of yours doesn’t really make sense, or accord with facts.

          • Copyright101


            This outlook of yours doesn’t really make sense, or accord with facts.

            OK, what is the true position?

          • johnb1945

            That traditional Jewish dedication to liberal causes relate to a charitable disposition and vestigial reverence for the covenant of Abraham which commands love of strangers, as well as memory of their own suffering at the hands of European nationalists and monoculturalists.

            That Angela Merkel, a practicing Christian, also aspires to these Abrahimic ideals and has an eye on Germany’s looming demographic crisis. And that post war Germany wishes to be a moral super power.

            Jewish conspiracies don’t exist. They are the product of cynical imaginations. It should be noted many Jews are not dedicated to liberal causes and European multiculturalism. Melanie Philips? Hugo Rifkind?

          • phiIIa12

            “Jewish conspiracies don’t exist. They are the product of cynical imaginations.”

            “I do not believe in Jewish conspiracies: everything is done in the open” – Gilad Atzmon
            https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=028jkw0GVY4C&redir_esc=y

            “The Wandering Who? Should be read by Jews and non-Jews alike.” – Professor John J. Mearsheimer

          • johnb1945

            So from the synopsis Atzmon’s theory is that some Jews (a figure he puts at about 1/3 – interestingly the fraction of jewry murdered in the holocaust) see themselves in a perpetual state of defensive tension with and fear of non Jews and consequently set themselves apart in readiness for some kind of fall out or conflict.

            Atzmon is Jewish.

            I don’t doubt there is some truth in his theory but Jews have some good reasons to feel set apart, not least relating to the persecution they have suffered perpetually over the last 1000 years as a diaspora population and Europe’s only visible minority.

            Is perpetually accusing Jews of unlikely conspiracy theories likely to help?

            How about just treating Jewish people like people instead of treating them as if they really are set apart, as you seem to suggest we should?

          • ImperatorMachinarum

            Well done John. You show the knowledge and character I have come to associate with the majority of The People of the Book, across all their considerable diversity. At least this Catholic Croatian-American thinks so.

            I for one believe in the idea of Judeo-Christian moral and Greco-Roman rationalist traditions. Painfully evolved, still evolving, but ultimately worth defending. Jews are an intrinsic part of this.

            Here’s hoping that the West can show strength and humanity. Here’s hoping for a good outcome for everybody. For Christians, Muslims, and
            Jews. For Europe and the middle east. For all people and for all the
            world. For democracy, civil and political liberties, tolerance, and plurality.

            Shalom my friend.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Hugo Rifkind who is constantly moaning about Trump the “fascist’ on Twitter? Who is the progeny of Malcolm Rifkind the crook and immigration pusher?

            They are on the deportation list too.

          • johnb1945

            Trump is a hawkish right wing demagogue even by conservative estimations.

            BTW, Trump is also violently pro-Israel and has a Jewish daughter.

            So Rifkind’s criticism doesn’t really accord with the assertion that all Jews just want to protect Israel at the expense of everywhere else, does it?

            Surely he should be supporting Trump?

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            “Trump is a hawkish right wing demagogue even by conservative estimations.” – Not really. He’s quite moderate. Strange times we live in where wanting stricter controls on immigration makes you “far-right” etc. Wonder why that is?

            “BTW, Trump is also violently pro-Israel and has a Jewish daughter.” – So? Doesn’t mean Jews in the media and politics don’t hate him. Because you just need to look at what the commentators of both the left and the “right” are saying about him to see that is fact.

            “So Rifkind’s criticism doesn’t really accord with the assertion that all Jews just want to protect Israel at the expense of everywhere else, does it?”

            That is not what we are saying. What we are saying is that Jews are against nationalism/patriotism/social conservatism when it comes to whites (for whatever reason) but support it for their own country. This isn’t true of every Jew but it is of a lot and especially of those with power and influence.

            “Surely he should be supporting Trump?”

            Well you’d be wrong about that. Trump makes him meshuggah like the rest of them despite him being pro-Israel:

            https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/673978616842162177

          • johnb1945

            You can be socially conservative and patriotic without being nationalistic. Patriotism (I think, anyway) is love of one’s country and its values.

            Its extreme cousin, nationalism, involves disparagement and demonisation of others.

            In history Jews have been the “other” demonised by nationalists.

            The several British Jews I know well enough to discuss these kind of topics love this country. They are patriotic. Some of them are socially conservative also.

            Do you know any British Jews? Maybe you should try to acquaint yourself with some.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            And you shift and change again when I demonstrate the fallacy of your points. Maybe you answer some actual (relevant) questions. Why do Jews hate Trump so much? What is it that makes a supposedly conservative Hugo Rifkind shriek “fascist” when Trump wants to restrict immigration to Muslims which isn’t even as far as Israel goes with its DNA tests?

            Call it patriotism/nationalism/whatever, the fact (as you admit) is that Jews do not like it when it comes to us. But with the demographics of Europe as they are the only option for whites who don’t want to be a despised minority in their own ancestral lands IS nationalism. Yet Jewish groups like the European Jewish Fund and “conservative” Jews such as Malcolm/Hugo Rifkind really, really don’t like it when whites support nationalism. And you say these people are our allies? Do any of the British Jews you know say they want whites to remain the majority in Europe?

            Not only do Jews hate nationalism among whites but they are also at the forefront of promoting anti-white propaganda where they actively revel in the fact that white interests are being undermined and that whites are growing smaller in number. See Tim Wise for an example.

            I do know British Jews. They were fine really. However those aren’t the people we are talking about. We are talking about the Jews who make up disproportionate numbers in the media, NGOs, etc. who have significant power and influence over the direction of our society.

          • johnb1945

            Israel privileges immigration of Jews. Literally, no s-t sherlock. This is not some secret, this is the reason it exists!
            To give the Jewish people and culture a place where it can be the majority, from which it can represent itself. Probably, considering what the Jews have endured as a diaspora, not a bad idea?
            And Trump does not only propose no immigration of Muslims. He proposes no entry of Muslims to the US for any reason, regardless of whether said Muslims are guilty of any crime, or present any danger to the national interest, and who knows perhaps regardless of whether said Muslim is practising or nominal also, in which case “Muslim” would inevitably conflate with “Race”…. very dangerous.
            I do not agree with this!
            Nor do I agree with some blanket ban on Muslim immigration here – immigration claims should be considered on their individual merit. From a purely self interested POV Muslims who wish to immigrate here may have skills we need and can’t get anywhere else, for a start. I also believe that the concept of asylum is an ethical burden which is correct for the free world to assume. We don’t go down the Germany/ Sweden route where everyone can just rock up speculatively, but that is not the same as banning asylum.

            Also, when you talk about “Jews” I fail to see how you can differentiate between the “OK” Jews that you personally know and the evil ones that you think covertly run the media and NGOs.

          • RWJetzt

            ‘To give the Jewish people and culture a place where it can be the majority, from which it can represent itself.’

            Why aren’t White people allowed the same privilege?

            Word to the wise: Jews don’t like white countries which are homogenous, proud of who they are, and morally strong.

            ‘Probably, considering what the Jews have endured as a diaspora, not a bad idea?’

            Ah, you seem to have fallen for the childish notion that the Jews being eventually persecuted and expelled everywhere they have ever lived (109 times to date) was for no other reason than irrational Gentile hatred, and that all Jews have always been harmless, nice ordinary citizens who just wished to integrate and work hard. Do you know the amount of great men and geniuses who wrote about there being a huge problem with this people? You don’t suppose there may have been a bit of a problem with Jewish behaviour, to result in all this (slow to develop, might I add), resentment and anger?

          • johnb1945

            Do you honestly believe all that medieval stuff about child blood matzos?

            Moving to more reliably recorded times, perhaps you could explain to me what Jews did to deserve the Shtetl, or the Holocaust?

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            I’m not going to get into a discussion of the official story of the Holocaust but what did the Ukrainians do to deserve being starved to death by mostly Jewish communists?

            Not to mention all the other Jewish communist murderers who were driven by ethnic and religious hatred of Europeans and Christians – similar to what most Jews are driven by today.

            Israel even protects these mass murderers by whingeing about the 6 million that supposedly died.

          • johnb1945

            Communists were not mostly Jewish. Marx was ethnically Jewish, but he did not invent the most murderous forms of communism.

            Stalin? I’m sure you’ll say he had Jewish side kicks. He did. Undeniable fact, but he was not Jewish himself, and that is important.

            And what, then, about Mao?

            Did the Jews also have it in for the Chinese?

            I don’t think Marx set out to create murderous communist personality cults, he genuinely and misguidedly thought that his collectivist and materialist philosophy would improve the human condition for everyone, Jew and non-Jew alike.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Communists were not mostly Jewish. Marx was ethnically Jewish, but he did not invent the most murderous forms of communism. – Yes, they were largely Jewish in comparison to the size of the population. The NKVD was 75% Jewish. Hungary was almost exclusively Jewish controlled.

            “A recent study by the Polish Institute of National Remembrance showed that out of 450 people in director positions in the Ministry between 1944 and 1954, 167 (37.1%) were of Jewish ethnicity, while Jews made up only 1% of the post-war Polish population.” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BBydokomuna

            “Stalin? I’m sure you’ll say he had Jewish side kicks. He did. Undeniable fact, but he was not Jewish himself, and that is important.” – Well Lenin and Trotsky came before Stalin and were both Jewish. That is when many of the worst brutalities were inflicted on the enemies of the Jews – Christians and whites.

            Why did Israel protect Salomon Morel? Why was one of the first things the Soviets did after seizing power was to free the Jews and make “anti-semitism” a capital offence?

            Marx clearly had some Jewish identity. He admired the Rothschilds was makes no sense unless you consider his Jewishness:

            “Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or less intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews are everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in short, literary brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with one foot in the bank and the other in the socialist movement, and their arses sitting upon the German press. They have grabbed hold of all newspapers, and you can imagine what a nauseating literature is the outcome of it.

            Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect, a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an instinctive inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem strange. What could there be in common between communism and high finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state centralization, and where this exists there must inevitably exist a state central bank, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish nation, which speculates upon the labor of the people, will always find the means for its existence.

            In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime, under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but of political differences as well – this Jewish world is today largely at the disposal of Marx or Rothschild. I am sure that, on the one hand, the Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand, women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work and live at the beat of the drum; the privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the national banks.” – Bakunin

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            “Israel privileges immigration of Jews. Literally, no s-t sherlock. This is not some secret, this is the reason it exists!”

            So what’s wrong with European countries prioritising whites when it comes to immigration? As the US did for decades before a disproportionally Jewish lobby reversed that policy in 1965 and actually made it harder for Europeans to move to the US while much easier for non-white groups?

            “To give the Jewish people and culture a place where it can be the majority, from which it can represent itself.” So if this is a good thing and something that Jews support then why should I not be annoyed at them if they support that for themselves but try to criminalise us or publically shame us as “fascists” “racists” etc. if we want that for our own group? Even so called “conservative” Jews do this quite often as I have shown with the Rifkind example.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Also you clearly aren’t going to address my argument in another thread where I used the example of the European Jewish Fund and Moshe Kantor to comprehensively destroy your argument.

            Have some honour.

          • johnb1945

            Because it is so stupid.
            European Jews are against racism and wish to preserve European Jewry’s distinct culture from assimilation. I mean, who would think?

            Scottish people, Welsh people, French people are all surprisingly similar to European Jews in this regard.

            Really, do you really think this is the biggest problem in the world right now?

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Shifting the goalposts again and ignoring points again. You’ve had practice at being slippery I see.

            “Racism” is a term that is usually only used to refer to whites who want to preserve their people, their people’s future possibilities and their culture. We aren’t allowed this partly due to Jewish influence, money and power that doesn’t want to do this because they despise us. So if we are “just like” the Jews in this regard then surely we could also have laws against interracial marriage as they do in Israel? Maybe not…

            If Jews are against “racism” as you say then why isn’t the term applied to all races? Why do so many of them encourage anti-white “racism” through the promotion of the idea of “white privilege” etc.?

            If this is just about them being nice “anti-racists” then why are they trying to censor, surveil and criminalise us? Not going to address that point that is so inconvenient to you? Even when this has nothing to do with “anti-semitism” such as when they wish to eliminate opposition to “homophobia” etc.

            “Really, do you really think this is the biggest problem in the world right now?”

            Yes, the demographic threat to my people’s existence and my future childrens’ lives is certainly a big problem. One major reason that this demographic threat even exists is Jewish influence. It cannot be denied that Jews are drastically overrepresented among media broadcasters and media company owners especially in the UK and the US. It is this same media that has gone to great lengths to hide the true cost in blood and treasure as a result of the introduction of the cultural enrichers which happened primarily under the New Labour government which had the highest number of Jews in prominent positions out of any cabinet in history and also a Jewish woman as responsible for immigration policy.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            I also mentioned that this European Jewish Fund provides funding for Barbara Spectre’s group who has openly said that Jews are working to stop any preservation of European culture and make our societies multicultural.

            You cannot deny that this is a hypocritical “one rule for chosen and one rule for the goyim” organisation and it is some minor organisation but actually quite a significant one with the involvement of Moshe Kantor who is the President of the European Jewish Congress so certainly not some minor irrelevant man who can’t be said to be speaking for (at least some) Jews!

          • johnb1945

            Do you honestly believe Barbara Spectre represents “Jewish” opinion? And not maybe a multi-culturalist ideologue of whom there are non-Jewish examples?

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Why is the European Jewish Fund (which was established by the billionaire and President of the European Jewish Congress Moshe Kantor) funding her then? When it opposes assimilation and the dilution of Jewish culture when it comes to their own group?

          • johnb1945

            As I’ve said all along, fervent multiculturalism has more to do with misguided charitableness, libertarianism, hospitality to strangers and a whole cocktail of other idealisms, thimportance of which likely vary from person to person.

            It has nothing to do with ethnicity, and nor does it have anything to do with subsuming or killing off white christians.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            If this is the case then why are Jews (or at least the European Jewish Fund and Moshe Kantor) funding it for white countries but opposing it for Jews? If it is all down to a universalist philosophy shouldn’t it be equally applied?

            Also why do some Jews such as Tim Wise push anti-white propaganda rather than simply pro-black, pro-Muslim or pro-immigrant propaganda? Why does the state and the media cover up crimes committed by immigrants/Muslims/Asians/etc. against the native white populations?

          • johnb1945

            How are they opposing it for Jews?

            Do you have details of the multicultural vision they propose because multiculturalism means different things?

            It probably, in this case, means that religions co-exist in the secular space without detriment.

            And they probably exist in reaction to perceived threat against that. This is how these things normally happen.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Because they support Israel i.e. a state which eschews multiculturalism as clearly evident by the policies of the state and because they oppose assimilation of Jews into other cultures.

            Also why does Tim Wise (and numerous others) promote anti-white propaganda?

          • johnb1945

            If he does such a thing, (and I haven’t read his stuff), then probably because he’s a bit of a kn-b.

            Not because he’s a Jew.

            I’ve just read his wikipedia profile and he’s certainly no halackhic Jew anyway. Jewish definitely in there, but purports to be mainly of Scottish origins.

          • johnb1945

            Referring to the European Jewish Fund as “the Jews” is like referring to the EDL as “the English”.

            This is your problem. You intrinsically link ethnicity to political positions, moral views and philosophies. It’s racist.

            Jews can and do think different things. Same as anyone else.
            They may share bonds of culture – same as everyone else, but multi-culturalism is not inherently cultural. It is… I don’t even know what it is? Philosophical? Political? A bit of both?

            Whatever, it is no absolute. It’s an inherently relativist, labile, even nebulous construct. What does it mean? I’m sure those who assigned total equivalence between all cultures did not have either the ghettoisation problems and identity politics we now encounter nor the coming Jew orchestrated mass genocide of Christian Europeans that you fear in mind when they dreamt it all up.
            .
            I’m sure that isn’t what they want.

            They probably have visions of us all living side by side in perfect, non-conflicting harmony. Rather than rant about Jews, maybe you should point out the flaws in this vision?

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            “Referring to the European Jewish Fund as “the Jews” is like referring to the EDL as “the English”.”

            The EDL is a very small organisation despised by the mainstream media and the political class.

            The same can’t be said for the European Jewish Fund which is where your analogy fails. The founder of the European Jewish Congress is also President of the European Jewish Congress and the European Council on Tolerance and Reconciliation (of which Tony Blair is the Chairman interestingly enough). He has been President of the European Jewish Congress for 9 years now. Here is what wikipedia says about the Congress:

            “The EJC, the largest secular organization representing the interests of European Jewry, is an influential, international public association representing some 2.5 million Jews across the European continent in 42 national Jewish communities.”

            Not exactly a minor group is it?

            He has also received state honours from Russia, France, Ukraine, Poland, Belgium, Italy, and Romania.

            Not to mention that he has been “recognized for five consecutive years as one of the ’50 Most Influential Jews in the World'”

            Look he is even having a program of his piloted in UK schools: “To that end, he has launched a pilot program in UK schools called Secure Tolerance (“To be modest, you can call it the Kantor Program,” he joked). – http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Most-influential-Jews-in-Jewish-World-403761

            So you are telling me that a well-connected billionaire who has received numerous high honours and has a powerful position in an EU NGO is somehow the same as Tommy Robinson?

            You’re making a fool of yourself here.

            “This is your problem. You intrinsically link ethnicity to political positions, moral views and philosophies.”
            Firstly, ethnicity/race precedes ideology. It is a part of who we are as human beings so obviously has relevance.

            Secondly, I only do so when it seems to be a motivating factor. In this case (as the past 100 years of European-Jewish relations show) it seems clear that many Jews have a powerful ethnic hatred of Europeans that motivates their politics.

            “It’s racist.”

            hahah So?

          • johnb1945

            I know several Jewish people well. One of them is an overt political liberal.

            He donates his time and his money to helping people such as refugees, and to causes promoting racial tolerance. Some of his time and money is donated to Jewish charities, some of it to secular charities and some to Christian ones. All of them are engaged in similar work.

            He does this, not because he wants to see some genocide of European Christians, but because he is a decent person with high ideals whose own grandparents survived the holocaust. He thinks promoting tolerance and charity – the ideal of loving thy neighbour – is the best way to ensure no more people ever have to endure a holocaust. He also considers himself completely British and will never leave this country for Israel.

            If you wish to question his idealism, be my guest. If you wish to criticise his unflinchingly liberal politics, be my guest.

            If you wish to suggest he does what he does out of any form of hatred for anyone, then you are sadly misguided. The opposite is true.

            We need people like him in our society, otherwise it would be a much harsher, less human and more cynical society.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            You are a very slippery character that continuously changes the topic from what it previously was.

            So you admit that your equivocation of the EDL and the European Jewish Fund was nonsensical?

          • johnb1945

            BTW, Barbara Spectre believes in a borderless multicultural Israel also.

            Did you know this?

            She’s a bit of a kook, regardless of her heritage.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Evidence for that?

            She’s the head and founder of an organisation which explicitly states on their website that they have a “mandate of working for the rebuilding of Jewish life and culture in Europe”.

            Why would the European Jewish Fund which says on their own website that assimilation is a threat to Jews sponsor someone who wanted to dilute their culture?

          • johnb1945

            She fervently believes in multiculturalism, full stop.

            Nowhere does she suggest this excludes Jews or the Jewish state.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Do you have any evidence for this? I’ve been giving you direct quotes from websites and their own statements all day.

          • Dion Benny

            Israel is “Jewish and Secular!”. Unfortunately, goyim is not allowed to preserve its culture.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            So you are essentially caught out here and have to admit that major Jewish organisations are hypocritical and hostile to Europeans if you are in any interested in truth.

          • johnb1945

            No. Sorry.

            My point is, why should it be unusual or sinister that European Jews wish to preserve their culture? Doesn’t everyone else do this?

            And why is this inconsistent with an anti-racism stance?

            What you claim is simply not coherent. If the Jewish conspiracy and its gentile minions hand an Islamist horde the keys to Europe so they can overrun it, the first people the Islamists say they will forcibly assimilate (or exterminate) are Jews.

            Then what? I suppose having done their work, the Jews who do not wish either to die or convert to Islam will quickly hotfoot it to tiny, indefensible “fortress” Israel, already awash in a sea of Islamism and now with its former European Allies to the North also a sea of hostile Islamism?

            Honestly, this is mental.

            You’re basically saying that everything Jews do is designed to cause a war, for the sake of causing a war. A war which will eventually result in either their own destruction or imprisonment in a tiny strip of indefensible desert cut off from the outside and maybe an isolated population remaining in the USA, where, presumably you also think subversive Jewish tentacles are hard at work?

            It is spectacularly crazy.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            “My point is, why should it be unusual or sinister that European Jews wish to preserve their culture? Doesn’t everyone else do this?”
            It’s not. The problem is when whites aren’t allowed to do this and any time that they attempt to you have Jews shrieking “fascist” or “racist” and Jews trying to criminalise dissent (which you continue to refuse to address) against multiculturalism. It becomes even more of a problem when Jews have significant disproportionate power in our countries which you cannot deny.

            The answer why they are doing this is quite simple: it’s because they hate us and always have. They have always collaborated with Muslims against going back hundreds of years to when they opened the gates of Toledo.

            How would the Jews be the first victims? Where are the Jewish girls being raped and tortured in Rotherham. There are none because they don’t live near it or have the police ignoring crimes against them.

          • johnb1945

            Do you deny Islamists target Jews even above other Kafirs?

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Depends which “Islamists” you are referring to. In France, probably yes. In Britain it is undoubtedly the white natives who have been targeted or victimised the most.

            ISIS have hit a number of European countries but strangely not Israel.

          • johnb1945

            Israel is hit by Islamist terrorists all the time.
            Usually they align with Hamas. Hamas? ISIS? Same thing, different name.

          • Leftism is a societal cancer

            Christ that is daft statement. Hamas are aligned with Hezbollah who are fighting ISIS in Syria.

            See this video for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdnWCBuCDEE

          • johnb1945

            Israel is Hamas’s turf dude. If ISIS want to operate there, they have to get past Hamas.

            It is disingenuous to suggest ISIS do not pose a threat to Israel, they have already engaged the IDF at least once in Sinai.

            And Hamas and ISIS believe the same shizz, more or less.

          • Dion Benny

            ISIS is Israel’s baby.

          • Cyril Sneer

            No ISIS is Sunni, Hamas is Shia like Hezbollah. Not the same thing, yet they are the same thing – Islamics.

          • johnb1945

            Hamas are sunnis.

          • Dion Benny

            Jews and muslims love using deception. Both have names for the “others”.

          • Rob

            No, you’re deliberately twisting what he said. Trump said to put a hold on all Muslim immigration UNTIL we have a system to weed out the terrorists among them that is better than open borders. Get your info from elsewhere than Rachel Maddow, or better yet listen to the man himself and not some liberal spin on what he said.

          • Geoff_Dawson

            Leftism is a societal cancer said: “Hugo Rifkind who is constantly moaning about Trump the “fascist’ on Twitter? who is the progeny of Malcolm Rifkind the crook and immigration pusher?”

            Jewish former Member of Parliament Malcolm Rifkind is the former head of Britain’s Intelligence and Security Committee.

            The intelligence and security committee has access to classified intelligence material and holds its meetings in private for security reasons.

            Reporting to Parliament, it publishes an annual review of the UK’s intelligence policy as well as the administration and funding of MI5, MI6 and GCHQ.

            Its remit was expanded earlier this year to cover operational matters, as well as the intelligence-related work of other government agencies such as the Joint Intelligence Committee, the National Security Secretariat, the Defence Intelligence department in the Ministry of Defence and the Office For Security and Counter-Terrorism.

            Rifkind was appointed to chair the committee by [part-Jew] Prime Minister David Cameron in 2010.

            Members of the Intelligence and Security Committee are appointed by the Houses of Parliament, having first secured the nomination of the Prime Minister (in consultation with the Leader of the Opposition). Note: The Leader of the Opposition was Jewish former Member of Parliament for Doncaster North, Ed Miliband. Note also that both Prime Minister and the former Leader of the Opposition are COMMITTED ZIONISTS.
            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24491443
            http://isc.independent.gov.uk/committee-members

            Ed Miliband: ‘I’m a ZIONIST’
            http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/103221/ed-miliband-im-a-zionist-and-oppose-boycotts-israel

            Cameron declares himself a ZIONIST