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Donald Trump's angry America

After the disappointment of Barack Obama, the country is turning mean

5 March 2016

9:00 AM

5 March 2016

9:00 AM

It was, in the end, the best possible night for Donald Trump. On Super Tuesday, 11 American states voted for Republican and Democratic presidential candidates. Trump won seven. That was enough to ensure he remains easily the frontrunner, but not enough to persuade his opponents to coalesce around one of his rivals. Had he won nine or ten, the Republican party might have fallen in behind the man in second place, Ted Cruz. As it turned out, Marco Rubio, the last establishment man standing, won one state, which has encouraged him to keep fighting. But Rubio’s reluctance to admit defeat means the anti-Trump vote will continue to fracture. His stubbornness is beginning to look like denial.

It’s time to face reality. Barring a dramatic and unprecedented reversal of fortune, Donald Trump is going to be the Republican candidate for the presidential election on 8 November. Which means that, by January, a fulminating demagogue with more than a whiff of the mad dictator about him could be in charge of the most powerful nation on earth. This says something disturbing about the state of America. The most benevolent superpower in history is turning nasty.

In Donald Trump’s America, greed isn’t just good — it is great. As he put it in his victory speech in Las Vegas last week, ‘We’re going to get greedy for the United States. We’re gonna grab and grab and grab. We’re gonna bring in so much money and so much everything. We’re going to Make America Great Again, I’m telling you folks.’ The crowd screamed.

In Donald Trump’s America, viciousness is beautiful. As he put it in another victory speech in South Carolina, ‘There’s nothing easy about running for president. It’s tough, it’s nasty, it’s mean, it’s vicious, it’s… beautiful.’

The Trump phenomenon seems too mad to be real. But it’s happening, folks, and it’s yuge. Pundits who dismiss Trump’s chances do so at their peril. In November, Donald Trump will almost certainly face Hillary Clinton, a woman who has not yet won a competitive major election and who is a perfect example of the fetid elite that American voters so detest. The odds are still against Trump. But then, a few months ago, he was a 50-1 shot to be the Republican nominee. Look at him now.

Trump’s critics compare his candidacy to that of Barry Goldwater in 1964, an insurgent campaign that wooed the radical right only then to be slaughtered by Lyndon B. Johnson, a machine Democrat. But the comparison misunderstands and undervalues Trump’s strengths. In his celebrity and ability to appeal to very different voters, Trump more resembles Ronald Reagan, a man who can remodel politics in his own image.

The depth and breadth of Trump’s appeal is endlessly surprising. He is more popular than other Republican candidates among men, women, whites, blacks, Hispanics, old, young, married and unmarried, evangelicals and non-evangelicals, those with college degrees and those without (‘I love the poorly educated,’ he said last week, a comment which prompted much chortling from the better educated). Trump has majority support among Republican voters who earn a lot of money and those who earn little, from self-described conservatives and moderates. As you might expect from someone who promises to build a wall to keep out Mexicans, he wins with people who worry most about immigration. But he also wins with those who cite the economy and terrorism as their chief concerns. In short, he wins a lot. Since the financial crash, and despite the so-called recovery, an ever larger number of Americans feel angry at the system. The Donald embodies their rage and multiplies it as in a hall of mirrors.

The consolation — and how people will cling to it in the coming weeks! — is that Trump probably won’t be president. According to the polls, a large majority of Americans hold an ‘unfavourable’ opinion of him. He may reflect the rage of Republican voters but no one in the history of the republic has been as reviled as Trump and reached the White House. Hillary should therefore win, because she is a bit less despicable. But when the good news is that the Clintons — a couple every bit as depraved as Trump in their way — are coming back to the White House, the world has a big problem.

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Even if Trump loses in the end, his rise should be a cause of considerable alarm for those who believe in liberal democracy. Millions of American voters have made it clear that they don’t want a nice guy — or even a respectable one — in charge. Civility is for losers and outmoded establishment politicians. Former Governor Jeb Bush tried humility. He said he had ‘a servant’s heart’, and failed. Ben Carson, the neurosurgeon, appears to be self-effacing. He’s failing too.

The Republican electorate want an arrogant daddy-big-bucks instead. In Trump, they have found their man. Trump insulted most of his rivals into submission; candidates who haven’t been eviscerated by him have only survived by being as nasty as he is. Ted Cruz won in Iowa after his campaign spread a false rumour that Ben Carson had dropped out. Marco Rubio decided last week that he must try to compete with Trump in the rudeness stakes. He called Trump a ‘con artist’ and said he ‘should sue whoever did that to his face’. He insinuated that the Donald has a small penis. And then he lost, again.

What Rubio recognised (too late) was that Americans from all walks of life are attracted to Trump precisely because he is a rude thug. They want him to be their rude thug. As one Trump voter in Manchester, New Hampshire put it: ‘He’s a mobster, sure, but what’s the difference between a politician and a mobster? A politician is just a 25-cent mobster. Trump is the real deal.’

This postmodern attitude — Trump is good because he is bad — is more distressing than Trump himself. We might avoid a President Trump in 2017. But what about 2021 or 2028? If the seething rage of Middle America doesn’t abate, we could see an even bigger menace storm to power. Which is a scary thought.

It’s easy to forget that the relative peace and prosperity we have enjoyed since the second world war has been underpinned by America’s stability and its might, both economic and military. That might sound like neocon twaddle, but it’s true. America’s generous attitude to globalisation has helped us all become richer — the manufacturing boom in Asia and Latin America, for instance, came at the expense of American jobs, but America accepted it. While European governments have steadily slashed their armies to pieces, US military spending now makes up 73 per cent of Nato’s total spend. There’s no such thing as a free world, really. Uncle Sam always picks up the tab. As John F. Kennedy said: ‘The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it.’ Trump would say that sounds like a bum deal.

America’s sense of Manifest Destiny — the belief that the nation has been divinely appointed to redeem mankind — is always annoying and sometimes destructive. It has led to big mistakes in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. America can be hypocritical and self-righteous; but better that than not righteous at all. And when you think about how overbearing America could be, given all that power at her disposal, it’s remarkable how restrained she has been. America has always tried to do the right thing.

In return for this service to mankind, what thanks does the Indispensable Nation get? Europeans sneer at America’s patriotism, its gun laws, and the coarseness of its consumer culture. We titter at the stupidity of American Christians, while Islamic governments call the US the Great Satan. Can anyone blame the American lower middle classes, whose wages have stagnated while the world blossomed under Pax Americana, for feeling resentful? They feel America’s generosity has been exploited, and that with the rise of China and their failures in the Middle East, their country is losing. In Donald Trump, they have found someone who won’t let them be pushed around any more.

The term ‘fascist’ is overused, but it fits Trump nicely — and not just because on Sunday he retweeted a Mussolini quote and failed to distance himself from the Ku Klux Klan. Trump exhibits the major characteristics of the worst dictators. He prefers national socialism to free enterprise. His economic policies, in as much as they make any sense at all, are protectionist. Although he professes himself to be a Presbyterian, he’s practically amoral. He exudes machismo in a strangely camp manner. And he’s savage towards those who stand in his way.

A key aspect to Trump’s success is that he cuts through the pious baloney about America being ‘a shining city on a hill’. His foreign policy has nothing to do with being good. It’s all about winning, and being badass. He talks of ‘beating’ China, Mexico, Russia and Iran. ‘We’ll beat the shit out of Isis,’ he adds. Americans quite like that. Nobody cares that he can’t offer a coherent plan to bring down the Islamic State. He sounds tough: that’s all that matters.

To millions of voters, it’s a relief not to have to listen to a candidate who bangs on about America being ‘the watchman on the walls of freedom’. It’s also satisfying for Americans and others to watch Trump trample all over the corpse of the George W. Bush-era Republican party, which brought nothing but failed wars and financial crisis. In the build-up to the primary in South -Carolina, Trump turned on the Bush family for lying over Iraq. The kneejerk reaction on Fox News and conservative talk radio was to say that patriotic Republicans would not stomach such leftish talk. Wrong. Patriotic Republicans agreed with Trump and voted for him.

In place of the exhausted hypocrisy of the old elite, however, Trump offers only a sort of anti-morality. He brings nothing but narcissism and nihilism to America’s high table. His campaign is a great big joke — and dead serious. At his rallies, they play daft music on purpose. They put on Elton John’s Tiny Dancer and random bits of popular opera because it lends a certain unreal atmosphere. ‘Remember, the more inappropriate for a political event, the better,’ explained one of his volunteers. LOL! Young people smirk at the older rednecks in the crowd and hold ‘Make America Great Again’ signs upside down. Their support for Trump is anarchic; they enjoy watching the political order being turned on its head. Another word for it is decadence.

In many ways, the rise of Trump is a logical consequence of the Barack Obama presidency. In 2008, Obama was swept into power on a wave of demented hope. People talked about him as America’s saviour, a ‘post-racial’ figure who could heal the world. Inevitably, that led to disappointment. Like all political careers, Obama’s has ended in failure.

If Obama was the product of delusional optimism, Donald Trump is the opposite: an expression of exuberant negativity. He is the clearest sign yet that, after the crash and a non-recovery, the USA is losing interest in its civilising mission; that the American project is turning sour.

‘America is the most grandiose experiment the world has seen,’ said Sigmund Freud. ‘But, I am afraid, it is not going to be a success.’ For decades, that quote seemed to be an example of how great minds can talk rot. But the pathology of the Donald Trump movement suggests he might have been right.

Freddy Gray is deputy editor of The Spectator. Before that, he was literary editor of the American Conservative.

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  • Rik

    Ah bless another sneering smearing piece on the Donald,yup democracy really is a pain when the leftard,globalist liberals elites look like they might lose.How dare us peasants and serfs reject the great and the good,don’t we know our place??No pal, you have taken us so far down the path of destruction it is time for change.

    • Maureen Fisher

      The liberati are now reduced to using disabled people to score political points – i.e. the mentally ill and with learning difficulties – describing them as Trump supporters. At least they are revealing their true nastiness – nastier than anything coming from Trump.

    • vieuxceps2

      Yes,not all of Trump’s views are wholly acceptable but when compared with some maxoid ideas a lot of them shine with sense. Mr and Mrs Everryman are slowly,slowly beginning to realise how unworkable and unfair most of liberal leftyism is. Beware though, the leftard ideologues won’t accept the voice of the people. If Trump or other right-wingers get into power,the comrades will react with “no justice no peace” activities. It is they of course who define “justice”.

    • David Prentice

      Ordinary people feel like they need a champion, someone who will actually stand up for them. The liberal elite, media and politicians, don’t seem to understand this.

  • evad666

    Not satisfied with the rise of Mr Trump closer to home we have:-

    • Bad Lad

      Good on the Swiss.

  • Suriani

    America has done with its Messiah now it fancies an Anti-messiah. A system exhibiting disconcerting signs of political immaturity

    • svetlana kuznetsov

      Another twit with a keyboard.

      • UKSteve

        And empty medication bottles.

  • Fraser Bailey

    I have always considered Trump to be a particularly repulsive individual. But at least he doesn’t try to hide it, unlike all the others who want our vote.

  • Randal

    In place of the exhausted hypocrisy of the old elite, however, Trump offers only a sort of anti-morality. He brings nothing but narcissism and nihilism to America’s high table.

    Then look at who was responsible for suppressing and destroying any earlier, rational opposition to the “exhausted hypocrisy of the old elite” by shouting down any traditionalist and nationalist opposition as fascist or racist, when it was nothing of the sort (or not to the degree the smearers painted it). See the way Pat Buchanan’s earlier tilt was destroyed by said hypocritical elites when they were not quite so exhausted and still had damage to do before they could be pulled down.

    When no moderate, sensible representation is given to a hefty chunk of the population, eventually they will turn to extreme, non-sensible representation. The exhausted, hypocritical elite (whose policies and attitudes are fully represented in the management and editorial policies of organs like the Spectator and the Telegraph) are the ones who should bear any blame for this situation, and if and when they have been swept away, only then can politics return to something reasonably normal.

    Trump is only one man, and he can only serve one term unless he is unexpectedly successful and can build massive popular support, and he has no prospect of doing anything with the media and Supreme Court against him, and Congress against him unless, again, he can build sufficiently broad support. In which case he will be doing what America wants done. The US system is built specifically to render “strong man” presidents powerless. All the alarmism about what Trump might do is nonsense – what they are really afraid of is that traditionalists and nationalists might have political representation again.

  • Tamerlane

    Man’s a Legend and when all the skeletons in the cupboard Clinton’s husband built for her are piled high at the voters’ feet we will salute President Trump, 46th President of the USA.

    As the Yanks like to say – AWESOME!

  • BillRees

    What Donald Trump’s candidacy says about Americans is that they are sick of being lied to by their establishment politicians.

    In order to run for President in the USA you have to be a megalomaniac. Trump, to give him credit, makes no bones about that, while all the others pretend to be like the rest of us.

    And Trump looks as though he is willing to do something about some of the major crises affecting America – the 19 trillion dollars of debt, illegal immigration that is out of control and the existential threat from Islamic terrorism.

    After an American President who has failed to address those issues, it shouldn’t be a surprise to see Americans turning to a supposed strong man.

    • UnionJihack

      Spot on. America is doooomed. The f**k you bankers lost all the money, catapulted the rest of Anglo-America on a death spiral into oblivion and what do the f**k you ‘Republicans’ do? Field a f**k you billionaire whose entire life has depended on his tarnished and completely made-up f**k me credit rating.

    • momosgarage

      I still don’t quite understand why some people think Donald Trump is a worse choice than “Clinton part II”, “Mitt Romney part deux, “neo-Paul Ryan” or “Bush part III”. Even Sanders is better choice than “Clinton part II” for that matter.

      People are finally seeing that Trump is capable of running a Presidential Campaign and a company with 22,000+ employees, whom are mostly AMERICAN citizen, with billions of dollars in real estate holdings to maintain, ALL AT THE SAME TIME. People are finally starting to give the guy some credit for his accomplishments.

      In contrast, what other outside organization, WITH EMPLOYED STAFF, was Obama “running” during his initial Presidential campaign? NONE, just his Presidential campaign, with some skeleton crew staffers left behind, to autopilot his Senate duties and the same goes for “Bush part II” (just replace the title “Senator” with “Governor”).

      Although Trump did grow up rich, inheriting money and property from his fathers businesses, the Trump Family is self-made for the most part and do not seem to be directly connected with Old-Money types (all the Trumps have a history of Tax Dodging BTW). According to family history, Trumps grandfather did not process properly through Ellis Island, in the late 1800’s and had left behind many unpaid debt in Europe by the time he came to America and started his new businesses. However, what regular people don’t seem to understand is that folks like Donald Trump and Ross Perot have ALWAYS been considered “trash” by the standards of the Romney and Bush type dynasties, with family members having held political offices, in the Untied States, as far back as the 1850’s. Note, Reagan, Bill Clinton, and Obama also had no direct family ties to the Old-Money types, however, they were not nearly as wealthy, nor as independently bold, as Trump or Perot and eventually all of them did “toe the line”, following the orders of the establishment and Old-Money types (out of fear of losing their hard earned celebrity status).

      The reality is that Trump will NEVER be accepted as part of the true “Owners of Capital” club because he is the decedent of regular working class immigrants from Germany, that came to the USA via Ellis Island. Whether voters believe it or not, people like Donald Trump and Ross Perot before him, are truly, the best chance, regular people have to being represented by someone in office who’s family is not beholden to or part of the establishment & Old-Money types. Although I have not thoroughly checked, it does not appear that Donald Trump, nor Ross Perot, were ever invited to or attended the Bilderberg Conference. That’s a GOOD sign, not a bad one (in contrast, both Clinton’s have attended multiple times).

      There are some other things to consider, if, Trump has a REAL chance at winning the Republican nomination or somehow gets huge backing as an Independent, the “Owners of Capital” will simply do what they did to Ross Perot and once that process unfolds he will eventually decide to “willingly withdraw” from the race.

      Do people really believe, that if someone like Donald Trump wins the election, that he will be able to do what he wants, as apposed to, what the “Military Industrial Complex” wants him to do?

      Anyone who becomes President of the United States has to “cow tow” to the “Military Industrial Complex” and even Donald Trump will not be immune to the guaranteed “CIA pep talk visit” once in office.

      Be assured they will pay him a visit, if he ever wins, and like Ross Perot, Jessie Ventura, Arnold Schwarzenegger and even Obama, he too will be told to “toe the line” and “play ball”, as they dictate.

      For example, why in the world did Arnold Schwarzenegger need to do ANYTHING along party lines? His fame and popularity COMPLETELY transcended political parties, yet somehow he was still answering to politicians who in-theory should have had no affect on his personal life, political career or personal fortune, all of which existed prior to being elected and was held COMPLETELY outside of the confines or influence of the “Military Industrial Complex”.

      Also consider this angle, there is a huge assets difference between someone like Mitt Romney, who has a $250 million net worth and Ross Perot with a $5 billion net worth (Donald Trump has a net worth of roughly $4 Billion). Yet, someone like Romney was and still is a shoe in for party nominations. As I alluded to above, its NOT the money, nor the popular vote that matters, people like Mitt and Jeb Bush are government insiders and both come from families that always have been government insiders. That was not the case at all with Perot and the same goes for Trump, hence neither of them will be allowed to be elected regardless of the popular vote or the public’s desires, nor how much money they spend.

      Ross Perot dropping out of the 1992 election was not happenstance either, nor was it simply about his daughters wedding:

      http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/26/us/1992-campaign-overview-perot-says-he-quit-july-thwart-gop-dirty-tricks.html

      Both Trump and Sanders, in my opinion, are the least likely, currently “visible candidates”, to be heavily affiliated with the established political system. Trump and Sanders weren’t born into the “right kind” of political families, in fact their ancestors were immigrants from the lower classes of Europe. Its actually really too bad they can’t be on the same independent ticket, running as Independents, with Trump as President and Sanders as VP, along with other anti-establishment people like Ralph Nader, Jessie Ventura and Ron Paul filling the various cabinet positions (actually pooling campaign resources, with the intention of trying to win, as a team and not the usual solo campaigns).

      But if they tried to pull a “hat trick” like that, I’m sure quite a few of them would QUICKLY find themselves at risk of being in a “plane crash” or on the wrong end of a “car accident”.

      In hindsight, I truly believe that Ross Perot would have done a much better job than ANY of the “good ol’ boys” that we’ve gotten as Presidents since then. Trump is the nations second chance to get that type of leadership. Again, Perot dropping out of the 1992 election was not happenstance, nor was it simply about his daughters wedding. He was likely threatened in some way, that none of us can imagine. Think about it, why has he been so quiet, for the last 20+ years?

      Donald Trump will be no different, but, if he decides to run for President and he somehow wins, best case scenario, it will be Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ronald Reagan all over again.

      Now for the Commander-in-Chief issue. Donald Trump did go to a real military academy, graduating in 1964. During the Vietnam era he would have certainly been commissioned as a reserve second lieutenant, right after graduating from that military academy. Its my understanding that ROTC graduates back then did not need to attend basic branch training, nor an OCS equivalent and instead went through a shortened orientation course (the branch assigned being subject to “Needs of the Army”). So, believe it or not, Donald Trump did the equivalent of the ROTC to OCS path that we have today (currently called a 90 day wonder/blunder). At a school like New York Military Academy (NYMA), he would certainly have gotten the same basic training as an OCS candidate/graduate of the Vietnam era, perhaps even more so (real rifles, live ammunition, drills, etc). Remember he graduated in 1964, so the military school reserve officer programs, back then, were NOTHING like they are today.

      Also Donald Trumps graduation date from NYMA predates the “Reserve Officer Training Corps Vitalization Act of 1964”. So, comparisons about “what he did” while at the Military Academy and “what it counts for” is most definitely from another era, that few, if any, are familiar with today. Look up the “Reserve Officer Training Corps Vitalization Act of 1964” if you have any doubts.

      As I pointed out, the ROTC and Reserve rules changed in 1965. Trump went to a full blown Military Academy, not just a high school with a JROTC program. He graduated in 1964 under the old Reserve system and had to do daily drill, keep up military decorum, PT, military science courses and rifle proficiency (specifically M1 Garand’s). Search the web and you will see lots obituaries of people that attended NYMA, that were commissioned and did not go to college or ever enrolled in a college affiliated ROTC program (all the ones I found were before Vietnam, specifically around the time of the Korean War).

      People have to remember that this was strange period in military history, where the rules on commissioning appear to have been really loose, before, the passing of the “Reserve Officer Training Corps Vitalization Act of 1964”. If you read the various iterations of the “National Defense Act” and the accompanying “Officers Reserve Corps” rules for commissioning, prior to the 1964 act, you will see that the only requirement was that the officer candidate attend, graduate and take a course at an institution with an appointed military officer, teaching classes in Military Science. Reserve officer programs for both high schools and colleges, back then, were NOTHING like they are today. In fact, many colleges required males to attend ROTC on campus, while earning their degree and when they graduated they were placed on the Ready Reserves list.

      Did Trump serve in combat? No

      Is Trump’s situation the same as people who say, “yea I almost joined the Marines…”?

      No, because he was likely listed in the Ready Reserves.

      Donald Trump does have the equivalent training of an ROTC/OCS graduate from 1964 and on top of that has 4 years of military academy education. That is MUCH more military training than today’s “90 day wonder/blunder”. Contemporary “Civilian to OCS” candidates DO NOT always attend ROTC, some only graduated with a 4-year degree and then signed up for a Civilian to OCS contract. Again, at a school like NYMA, Donald Trump would certainly have gotten the same basic training as an OCS candidate/graduate of the Vietnam era.

      Remember I am talking about a full blown Military Academy, not just a high school with a JROTC program. Read some stories about older guys, from that era (before the 1970’s), whom attended military schools like VMI. They ALL typically have said, that their real service time, in the military, was easier than the their time spent at the Military Academy.

      Also pending on the year of someone’s graduation, likely post 1964, affects whether it was recognized as being sufficient enough, to be considered, the minimum, Military Science education required to be a reserve officer. In 1964, NYMA met that requirement.

      George W. Bush did NOT go to OCS nor to ROTC, he got a direct commission because daddy asked for it. As far as I am concerned, if Bush can claim his SHORT time in the Air National Guard, as “military service”, after not having attended any Officer School or training, than Donald Trump is free to claim, AT LEAST, the same.

      Remember when Al Gore put up those pictures of himself carrying a rifle, appearing to be in “combat”, saying he got “shot at” while in Vietnam?

      These two examples of Bush and Gore are far worse embellishments, in my opinion.

      Of our last 3 presidents have NOT has served in combat. The last president, that had actual time served in the military, left office in 1993. So keeping that in mind, Trump has more Military experience, before taking office, due to having attend a REAL Military Academy, than any president in the last 22 years. That brief student experience is MUCH better than nothing.

      Never forget that “Bush II” didn’t go to OCS nor ROTC, he got a direct commission because daddy asked for it. So with that in mind, Donald Trump has had more military training than the last TWO Commanders in Chief’s!

  • Adam Carter

    Where are all the other comments?
    Has Disqus had a glitch or was it a deliberate decision to remove them?

  • PW

    Like him or loath Trump he couldn’t possibly turn out to be a worse President than Obama. Obama’s record has been abysmal. And let’s face it to all those who decry Trump as a buffoon etc. have to admit he’s a very wealthy one and you don’t accumulate that sort of wealth by being stupid.

  • HolgerDansk

    What a choice: a megalomaniac, patriotic blow-hard or a inherently evil, sinister, establishment witch.
    Go! TRUMP!

    • svetlana kuznetsov

      Yeeah

  • Bill Kendall

    What is so wrong with wanting to make America Great again? I wish we could get a PM with the same genuine ambitions, Boris Johnson anyone?

  • Ahobz

    This article takes no account of the US costitution, which is deliberately esigned to stop a president, any president, from excercising unfettered power. Trump will have to deal with Congress and the Senate to get any legislation enacted and to that (they being packed with the hated machine politicians) he will have to do deals, which is how he lives his life, so chances are he will do deals.

    At least we can be fairly certain he will not start any foreign wars, whatever he says about Isis.

  • Frank Marshall

    FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS A “LITERARY EDITOR,” THIS ESSAY IS REMARKABLY POORLY WRITTEN. IT IS LOADED WITH ERRORS IN PUNCTUATION, USAGE, AND EVEN GRAMMAR.

    • Freddythreepwood

      But at least it doesn’t shout.

  • Spivy

    I’m yet to read an article anywhere that faces the high probability that Trump will be in the WH. Every journalist concludes that he’s doing great now but will lose in the end. Why? It is absolutely clear that the PC media is terrified of him winning. They have humiliated, shamed, abused, engaged in verbal violence to match the man they suggest is a narcissistic bully as if they are not. If Trump makes the WH, these journalists and their PC, establishment sycophantic bosses, will take a long time to wipe the egg from their faces. And, Trump and his supporters won’t forget the abuse that has been thrown at them. Special Relationship! Forget it. It’s over. Trump will leave Europe to Putin, save hundreds of billions in doing so and rid the US of the old world that is slowly slipping down the plug hole.

    • vieuxceps2

      “slippng down the plug hole”-Unless the White people of the world recover their former spirit, we will all slip down the plug hole. It’s not good to instigate barbarity but neither is it good to condone or defer to barbarity.

  • Ponydaemmerung

    If Trump is elected, America will have a very long way to go before it approaches anything as “nasty” as the police covering up the rapes of thousands of girls by middle-aged Muslim men. Now THAT’S nasty.

    • Bad Lad

      Come come now, it’s a little light cultural exchanging, no more than that.

      • vieuxceps2

        Yes, it’s their culture, you see.Who are we to talk? White people,huh!

        • Bad Lad

          We just never stop moaning. And, after all, a 13-year-old working class girl IS to blame for upper class colonialism and deserves to lay the price for it.

          • rhcrest

            Yes how dare she complain! It’s all for a good cause after all

    • Bill Kendall

      and it wasn’t just the Police doing the covering up, it was the ‘nice’ Labour councils too.

      • Bad Lad

        And the unionised, resolutely left-wing social and care workers. They were the very pimps!

      • The_Missing_Think

        And the Tory ones as well. Control your bias, don’t be a cover-up stooge, it makes you look a massive hypocrite.

        Did the Tory ones sound the alarm, yes or no?

  • logdon

    ‘The most benevolent superpower in history is turning nasty.’

    No its not. They are merely removing the rose tinted spectacles which blinded them to reality.

    You guys just don’t get it, do you?

    Whether its Orban or Trump out come those self righteous daggers of delusion and you’re off.

    In Trump’s case all he said was a period of restraint on Muslim immigration would be a good idea until America can figure this IS immigration problem.

    Orban can also see the reality. Hungary was almost swallowed by the barbaric Ottomans. Not again and who can blame them?

    Better the realists than this virtue signalling game you idiots seem to be playing.

    Get a grip.

    • Bad Lad

      Absolutely. Scarcely a government in the world is prepared to listen to their populations and simply will not halt immigration, the export of jobs, the replacement of workforces and even races. What on earth did they expect?

      • mohdanga

        Odd that the media, politicians, and “experts” never criticize Japan for having zero Muslim immigration. Hmmm.

        • Bad Lad

          Perhaps the half-wits don’t know. Whatever, their main intention is the destruction of the West. How they imagine they can control these beasts I don’t know but I always laugh when some idiot leftie gets caught up in a “random incident”.

          • mohdanga

            They know but they won’t say because then the reason for mass immigration to the West will be indefensible.

    • logdon

      PS:

      There’s a lot at stake here. It’s not some dilletante game. Islamists are threatening the entire globe and all you can do is sneer at the realists who take these threats seriously.

      When Recep Erdogan says, ‘Islam is Islam. There is no moderate Islam’. Or ‘democracy is like a tram ride. You get to where you’re going and then you get off’, he means it.

      Is anyone listening or are they so far up their own orifices that the words of a man in charge of a nation slated for EU membership are just meaningless twaddle?

      I just received a brief email from a friend of German extract

      Here’s what he says

      ‘My relatives in Germany are not happy what happened at new year when over 100 German women in one town were sexually attacked
      Said no more rapeugees on banners they were holding.
      Am glad am not young.’

      We are heading towards major European conflict driven by Islam. The writing is not merely on the wall, it’s in 50 foot high letters.

      When is enough, enough in your Eloi world?

      • AliceS

        Enough is when European swimming pools segregate men and women, and Germany bans pork sausages…

        • logdon

          All according to the Sharia.

          They must think that we’re insane. If you’re Muslim come into the parlour and if you don’t like it we can always rearrange just to suit you.

          I think on a scale of roar or whimper the latter has it.

          • AliceS

            Trump roars …

  • owen m

    Hilary is a dangerous warmonger, more dangerous than Trump yet she gets a free ride

    • svetlana kuznetsov

      She would have to pay me first.

    • Avallach

      in this day and age any criticism towards a woman will reward you with being called misogynist/sexist by our wonderful feminized SJW media, so you can call Trump with all sort of “ists” and “phobes” and the corrupt robotic Hilary only gets praise.

    • Mrs Cravatt

      Basically that’s how Thatcher managed to get away with her extreme polices. A cabinet full of insular public school boys thought it was too ungentlemanly to argue against a woman.

    • montyburns56

      I heard that Bill also used to get a lot of free rides when he was President…

  • serialluncher

    Nobody who values European security would back Trump. He has vowed to withdraw US forces from Europe. Putin must be licking his lips.

    • Ozzy Guy

      Why should the U.S. protect a Europe that isn’t willing to protect itself?

      • serialluncher

        For the same reason they are here now.

        • Cobbett

          No answer is it…and the assumption that Putin wants to ‘invade’ Europe is ridiculous in the extreme.

          • serialluncher

            No it’s not.

          • Cobbett

            You’re a liar to boot.

          • Father Todd Untious

            Only a bit of a liar though. Tamerlane is a total and utter liar.

          • UKSteve

            It’s time for your meds.

        • UKSteve

          More, the Cold War than WWII.

      • UKSteve

        What a spectacularly childish question.

        You honestly think it has to do with protecting us?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments

    • Jacobi

      Russia is not the danger in Europe whether Putin or anyone else is in charge. The Cold War is over, a long time ago. Grow up for heavens sake!

      • serialluncher

        The cold never really ended. They just swapped communism for aggressive, expansionist nationalism and a goal of a Euroasian empire.

        • Dacorum

          What utter nonsense! The opposite is true. It is the EU and NATO that have developed aggressive expansionist policies to extend the reach of the EU and NATO empire well into Russia’s backyard. I’m not referring to our backing for the coup to depose the elected president of Ukraine. Russia is merely reacting to further western expansion that threatens their security.
          We should have left Ukraine alone as a neutral buffer state and we should have been happy to have encouraged the Russians to waste their resources supporting a basket case country of 45 million Ukrainians.

          • UKSteve

            Indeed. I wonder why the situation blew up in Ukraine the way it did…..

            http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=84504

          • Jacobi

            Simple because those men in the far background, if you cared to look, in light coloured military uniform, helmets and keeping an eye things were not Ukrainian nor were they Russians!

          • Jacobi

            By the way my comment above has attracted the usual “awaiting approval” notice. I think it was the reference to the political system the Russians helped us to destroy?

          • UKSteve

            What?

          • Jacobi

            American special forces. Do you need everything carefully spelt out for you?
            My better half always says I assume too much of others!

        • Mrs Cravatt

          Communism was swapped for environmental politics – they both hate capitalism. It’s no coincidence that the fall of the Berlin wall saw the rise in environmental activists. Anti capitalists lost the argument with the demise of communism so they leapt on to Green issues to bash the west.

        • Jacobi

          A considered response to you made last noght

      • Father Todd Untious

        Russia is a danger. Just not a threat. Russia is a corrupt Mafia state in demographic meltdown.

        • Jacobi

          Well so are a lot of countries. We shall see.

    • rhcrest

      Europe can get off it’s collective behind after all these decades and take some money from all their socialist paradise programs and start paying for their own da** defense!

  • Ozzy Guy

    “Barring a dramatic and unprecedented reversal of fortune…”

    I fear that the Lee Harvey Oswald “department of fortune reversal” has probably already been activated…

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Or OFMUAH, the Office For Making Unfortunate Accidents Happen.
      The sorts of accidents that prompt the more tinfoil-hatted amongst us to say “Wake Up, Sheeple!”, because of their sheer improbability of being “accidental.”

  • investigator

    The are huge numbers of illegal Mexicans in the USA. Of course this has to stop.
    Islam is planning more and greater terrorist attacks; of course this has to stop.
    The orthodox simply want to wash their hands of the problems, so if a candidate arrives who’s willing, in fact eager, to confront the major problems of the country, of course Americans are going to vote for him.
    He’s not after an oscar, he’s talking about solving the major problems the country faces.
    People will overlook the hair if he looks like he’s got some real political balls.

  • Freddythreepwood

    ‘ no one in the history of the republic has been as reviled as Trump and reached the White House.’

    Ah! But look who is reviling him. The same people who have dragged us into this mess, the same people who have inflicted political correctness on the West and the same weak, limp wristed liberals who have brought about a reviving of the Cold War and the rise of Islamic terrorism. We shall see if the USA is prepared to vote for more of the same.

    • vieuxceps2

      I am glad to see how often commenters refer to “political correctness” when assessing the harm done by lefty-libs and their dick-headed comrades. It was regarded as a joke when it first emerged but so mamy idiots took (and take ) instruction from it that it has become a powerful weapon in lefty’s armoury. We should all, repeat all, resolve to ridicule and mock this insidious tool out of existence or it will remove our power to think. That ,of course ,is its aim.

      • trobrianders

        No one will do it for us. We each have to say No More.

      • rhcrest

        It already has removed the power to think from a great many people

    • trobrianders

      It’s not a fad. It’s a concerted effort to trade Reason for Correctness. The same Reason upon which all our prior success was based.

  • Cyril Sneer

    Trump becoming President is disturbing? I find this astonishing considering the last 15 years of American foreign policy. Now that is disturbing. Republican or Democrat, what Obama and Bush have shown is that it makes no difference. It’s the same neo liberal crime against humanity.

    What Clinton offers is more of the same neo-liberal nuttery. Now that has to be the most disturbing thing ever.

    Clinton for Prison.
    Trump for President.

    • trobrianders

      Yes they don’t even bother to pretend anymore

    • svetlana kuznetsov

      Cyril is smart.

      • Cyril Sneer

        Well I have my moments Svetlana.

    • Mrs Cravatt

      Nice one. Nice one son.

    • UKSteve
      • Cyril Sneer

        At what point should I be disturbed? I read the article. Where should I be concerned?

        Is it any more disturbing than arming and supplying Al Qaeda and other Salafist groups which is what Obama’s America and its Sunni friends have been doing for 4 years in Syria. And, if Clinton gets in providing support for terrorist groups will continue.

        Like I said, I’m more disturbed by Clinton. Let’s face it, she shouldn’t even be running for president right now, she should be in prison and Obama should have been impeached a long time ago.

        • UKSteve

          Hilarious. Keep ’em coming!

  • Jacobi

    The Trump genie is out of the bottle, will not go in again. It has to be faced who ever wins the election.

    The genie represents the shear, now dangerous frustration that the man in the street, or whatever the equivalent is in America, now feels about being ignored and used by the rich political elites.

    These elites have ignored that man, they have given him war mongers, and at present a complete waste of space as presidents. Clinton, if she gets in is but a pawn of these elites, but even she will ignore this genie at her peril.

    As for us in Europe, we have our own elites to deal with and other dangers, which do not by the way include Russia, who ever is in charge there.

    • JohnJ

      Nice. Genie comes from the Arabic Jinn. In Islam the Jinn is a spirit that can take human form and has enormous influence – generally evil. So I am sure ISIS agrees with you.

      • Jacobi

        Generally!

      • Cyril Sneer

        You don’t get out much do you.

  • chizwoz

    I really don’t see all of this scare mongering around Trump. He’s an egomaniac and a loud mouth. But why are so many people convinced he’d therefore be a bad president. Those qualities lead to being a very successful businessman.

    • trobrianders

      Trump only does things for quantifiable gain, not out of a sanctimonious sense of moral superiority that has only ever caused us problems. That’s why he’s the man the West needs at this time of unprecedented threat.

  • hippiepooter

    If it’s Hillary v Trump batten the hatches, the world is heading towards disaster. I have zero enthusiasm for Bloomberg, but best he wins as a 3rd candidate than either of these two egomaniacs.

    • trobrianders

      Trump’s doing well because the “world is heading for disaster”. The venal, semi-educated lackeys that you normally vote for have landed us here. Wake up.

      • Daniel Christian

        yep and trump will make the crash quick and less painful.

        • trobrianders

          With expectations so low anything he achieves will be viewed as a huge success.

  • Pamela Pratt

    Very well-written and entertaining, but you miss the fact that Trump actually is a very nice man.

    • Mrs Cravatt

      I’m not sure Trump supporters would call him nice. But Piers Morgan likes him.

  • trobrianders

    “a fulminating demagogue with more than a whiff of the mad dictator about him”.
    Only an idiot metropolitan could talk rubbish like this. I hope there’s a shake up that destroys the lives of these arrogant tossers.

    • mohdanga

      Yeah. Haven’t our current leaders done a great job with the West??

  • Ger Watson

    I’m from the UK so have no right to say who the USA should vote for. What i will say is having run into the Donald once; i thought he was dynamic and polite, and full of confidence not bragadaccio. And if anyone believes in Democracy; then he has every right to run and win as the next guy/woman…surely!

  • trobrianders

    Stop worrying. Every major upheaval of the past few years is simply a function of new social media.
    “Man’s oldest problem: technology in advance of morality”.
    John Fowles

  • John Hawkins Totnes

    Decadence. If Trump promotes it; so does Clinton. So do the know-all commentators who talk about liberal democracy not knowing how it came about and that it cost many generations of struggle. Freddy and his mates have lost their way but think they are masters of the universe.

  • Gauzner

    Reading this makes me wanna vote for trump ever more!

  • DaviddeAngelis
  • Crawfurdmuir

    I have read more hyperbole about Trump in recent weeks than I have ever seen about any candidate for the U,.S. presidency in my lifetime. “A fulminating demagogue with more than a whiff of the mad dictator about him” is not out of the ordinary. The Wall Street Journal recently accused him of “nativism, protectionism, and xenophobia.” The matter of fact is that all he advocates is a restoration of the trade and immigration policies that prevailed in the United States during Dwight Eisenhower’s administration. That scarcely makes him a “fascist.”

    A good part of Trump’s appeal comes from his refusal to conform to the dictates of “political correctness.” Other politicians grovel before “social justice warriors” – Trump dismisses these little Savonarolas and Robespierres with the contempt they deserve. These people greatly overestimate their strength. Vast numbers of Americans have endured and detested them quietly for years; it is no wonder they cheer when Trump defies them.

  • pigbitinmad

    I consider myself to be on the liberal side of the spectrum and I am not sure if I could ever bring myself to actually vote for Trump. ( I voted for Clinton back in the 1990s which was probably the last decent decade earth will ever see BTW). However, with HIllary it will be the same old “business as usual.” The only candidate who gets it is Bernie Sanders, but the only hope for him is to get a huge number of votes (which might somehow get it through the thick skulls of our elected representatives what we are angry about)

    I can’t stand the Tea Party and I especially can’t stand any of those Republican lackeys who are simply shills for big business. They say the unemployment rate is only 4.9% but everyone knows this is BS. As someone who has been stuck in a part-time job for 4 years and been unemployed a total of 2 years prior to that (and who has been looking for full-time work every day since then), I know, and so does everyone else, that the reason for this is either my age, or the fact that the economy stinks. Actually it is both.

    What do we keep hearing from Congress:

    1. This is the most galling of all….that we need to import more immigrants to counteract a “skills shortage” when there are plenty of well-educated people that cannot find work because they are over 40. (And no, we do not need remedial computer training in mouse and email although every Government report I have found online says this is the problem with older workers. If they are so concerned, why don’t employers test people?). They say we need to retool for entirely new careers, but state sponsored training is grossly inadequate and only available to the young. There is nothing out there for people who already figured out how to use a mouse back in 1982. And if you actually want to go into debt educating yourself the jobs simply are not there if you are over 40. Nobody will hire someone over 40 even if they were to ace a subject test.

    2. That we need to cut “entitlements” for all those lazy SOBs collecting Social Security who are living it up on “Steak and Lobster” when it is more likely those benefits would barely supply them with enough partially-hydrogenated cheeze-product made from soybean oil. (Something we can never ban because big aggra doesn’t want it).

    3. Everyone should be able to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps and start a business (never mind that the super-rich and foreign criminal money laundering class have driven everyone out of the cities by paying exhorbitant rents which only a Global Conglomerate chain can afford (I am sure those of you in London can attest to this). They always come back and tell you that illiterate immigrants start businesses. Well, yes it is true. But they have a built in sub-culture that requires internal support. They usually live in a small geographic area, speaking the same language and liking the same foods etc. They haven’t learned to hate each other like us Native Born Americans do.

    I could go on and on and on. And in case you are interested, I personally am not interested in America being number 1 in the world. What I do want is to not have to live in a tent city when I am 62 and to not be looking over my shoulder every minute worrying that some Millennial is going to throw me under the bus (cause that’s what they do to people over 40).

    I have never seen such complete and utter hatred in the workplace until about 2004. Corporate management techniques like grading performance reviews has turned workers against one another to the point where you have to throw your coworkers under the bus to prevent it happening to you. When it happens to you, they tell you “oh, just stop whining and get a job” (Today, they want Superman so they can claim a skills shortage and import more foreigners And if you ask those smug a-holes how they got their job, the answer is “I just sorta fell into it and learned on the job.” Yeah, no $#!T Sherlock.)

    I will end this rant now, but you got one thing right. We are sick and tired of making everyone else in the world rich and getting nothing for it (except 50% losses in the stock market every time you think you are recovering) and if Donald Trump careens around like a Bull in a China Shop and smashes this whole system to the ground in the process, I might not be so upset as long as he takes the entire world with it.

    There might be one way to avert this disaster but our Elites have their heads too far up their A$$#$ to see it. The last time the elites were this terrified of a revolution was when Huey Long started to get very popular. All they did was give workers money for nothing in the form of the WPA.

    I know that something like a Universal Basic Income as reparations for the stock market crashes, the housing implosions and the mass layoffs would defuse this ticking time bomb. But I can bet you it will not happen.

    • Jacobi

      You do go on a bit but, may I say rightly so,
      What you express is increasingly felt over here, that is in UK and in Europe!

    • DwightVandryver

      Excellent – you have captured the spirit of the age.
      Here in the UK, net immigration continues at an alarming rate, yet the government insists on raising the retirement age. It says the country cannot afford to pay the state pension, but the question remains: how will older people be able to remain in employment when there is a vast labour pool of migrant workers ready to fill the vacancies at rock bottom wages?
      Austerity has been imposed because successive governments have overspent and frittered away billions on useless gestures. Yet bankers’ bonuses are never affected, as it is “essential” to attract the best, apparently. One reads of food banks to help the “starving poor”, but who doesn’t know of some family that is living the good life on benefits? Personally, I know of two such families within my limited number of acquaintances.
      Social mobility is almost at a standstill. If you are stuck in a social trap, there you are likely to remain. The gulf between rich and poor grows ever wider. What is more, there is a gradual consolidation of power into the hands of a few elite individuals, the EU being a good example of this. Multinationals and large corporations love the EU: so much easier to deal with the few than the many. The list goes on…
      I strongly suspect that many people instinctively feel that “something has gone wrong”, the scales are unbalanced, and it urgently needs to be remedied somehow. But how? Perhaps America has found the answer in Trump. In the UK, we are still waiting for our champion.

      • trobrianders

        That’s good summary. We aren’t waiting for a champion though. We have swallowed the smarmy, cynical leftist way of thinking and that has made it impossible to give a leader a chance to do things on our behalf. Corporations and the media have filled the vacuum and we are where we are.

      • Mongo

        we have Nigel

        • UKSteve

          Dear God. A debauched, vain, insecure, political illiterate. What could go right?

          • Mrs Cravatt

            You really must be a wee bit kinder to yourself.

          • UKSteve

            You really must stop typing cretinous rubbish into the internet.

          • polidorisghost

            “You really must stop typing cretinous rubbish into the internet.”

            Perhaps you should follow your own advice

          • UKSteve

            The number of up votes I receive would indicate otherwise; is that the best you’ve got?

          • polidorisghost

            Phoar!
            Look at the size of the upvotes on that!
            What a guy!

          • UKSteve

            Adults are discussing here, go and play with your Lego bricks there’s a good little lad, before daddy finds you in his Disqus account.

          • polidorisghost

            You were not “discussing” Steve, although others were trying to.
            You were just insulting and abusing anyone who dared to disagree with you (read your post history Steve).
            That’s why I told you to take your own advice and go away.
            Ok Steve?

          • UKSteve

            My upvote history renders your comment wildly inaccurate.

            I’ve discussed with lots of people, whereas all you’ve done is tr0ll, and lots are fed up with it. Your posts look childish, so got an appropriate response.

            If you or “Mrs Cravatt” had disagreed with me, or pointed out inaccuracies or contrary info, I’d have respected you. But no.

            OK?

          • polidorisghost

            “OK?”
            Not really Steve
            Below are examples of your attempts at “discussion”:

            “You really are breathtakingly stupid and monumentally ignorant..”
            *Anyone who thinks Barack Obama is a “disappointment” must have brain damage.”
            “Well……as I sad…..brain-damage.
            What you’ve typed is infantile bilge.”
            “Your opinions would shame a half-witted and uninformed 11 year old.Go and read something (other than Superman comics”
            “A comment as childish and churlish as it is ignorant.£
            “Oh dear. Just way too childish…..”
            “Pure and unalloyed stupidity?”

            And on and on…..

          • Violin Sonata

            🙂

          • polidorisghost

            Hi,
            I seem to have upset him.
            He probably thinks he’s an alpha male, but you and I know that such men are few and far between.

            Nice to see you around.

          • polidorisghost

            PS: You have hidden your posts, so I can’t find you for my daily fix.
            Pity.

          • UKSteve

            And he is wise, with a sinister tr0ll like you around. Anything to say on the Trump issue……YET?

          • polidorisghost

            She knows me and accepts me for what I am.
            On Trump? – nothing to you.

          • UKSteve

            How nice.

            So nothing on-topic – just more abuse and tr0lling?

          • polidorisghost

            You’ve got a problem sonny, but enjoy your life as best you can.

          • UKSteve

            I already do, and have been for years.

            If you want to see what a <b?real problem looks like, find a mirror.

          • Violin Sonata

            P, you’ve got me mixed up with the lovely C from Florida.
            I am the Violin girl who showed no sympathy when you had
            that bad toe 🙂

          • polidorisghost

            Now, I could never confuse the two of you could I?
            I have just returned from Rome – with a bad toe.

          • Violin Sonata

            I’ll promise not to put my foot in it and say anything unsympathetic about your toe 😛
            ( too much fine wine and rich foods ;-D ).
            Hope you had a lovely time in Rome and saw some operas whilst there. I would love to see the Sistine chapel.
            but would never know the best part to stay; or quietest time of year.
            Now you go and rest that toe– don’t hop around like a March hare 🙂

          • polidorisghost

            I had a wonderful time, but as I was only there for a few days a visit to the opera wasn’t really on the cards.
            Highlights?: An apartment overlooking the spanish steps. A view of old Rome from the terrace at the top of the spanish steps. Bernini’s Pluto and Proserpina at the Borghese. The Trevi Fountain. The Octagonal Court and the hall of maps in the Vatican museum. The Sistine was, to be honest, a bit of a dissapointment: You know the paintings of course but the room itself is utterly plain and the atmosphere was poor because a few people were more interested talking and taking pictures of themselves at the Sistine, than looking at anything. I stood by one couple who were standing underneath God Created Man whilst taking a selfie. God must wonder why he bothered.

          • Violin Sonata

            Found this in my junk email box, what were you upto in there 🙂
            Sounds absolutely wonderful, you packed so much into your few days..
            ever thought of becoming a travel writer, you’d be very good and I know the things to visit if I ever get there. It’s a shame about the Sistine not been up to much, but sometimes in life what you imagine
            is far more spectacular then the reality.. and as for those people
            taking selfies– the mind can only boggle at the shallowness of mankind.

          • UKSteve

            You incredibly offensive comment removed, I see.

          • UKSteve

            Nope – you’ve made some of those up! And the ones that aren’t are perfectly valid responses.

            But usually they’re against tr0lls – like you. Nice to know I’ve got a fan, who dedicates their weekends to me! Oh God! – you’re not a stalker are you?

            Anyway, let’s list all of your contributions to the topic at hand…

            1) …

            Ermmmmm, nope, that’s it!

          • polidorisghost

            I just copied and pasted Steve.
            They are all from this article – None of them were made up and I didn’t have to search – All I had to do was start from the beginning and every five minutes up popped you.
            None of them were valid responses, just intemperate and abusive rants, which is why I suggested that you took your own advice.

          • Callipygian

            Titter

          • UKSteve

            No, you didn’t.

            You seem to be a rather disturbed person, and the reason I chose not to use my full name. I’ve no idea what your life is like, but it can’t be very ‘wholesome’ if you spend your day selecting one person as a target for your petty jealousies and pent-up frustrations, and respond only to those. You haven’t made a single on-topic comment yet so far, they’ve all been personal attacks centred on me, which is beyond your usual tr0lling; it’s a bit sinister, really.

            I think you need to see someone. Seriously.

          • Callipygian

            Wow P: you’ve ‘seen’ my acerbity and ‘raised’ me ;^)
            I like it!

          • polidorisghost

            Not over the top then?

          • Callipygian

            No. You are quite the nimble boxer.

          • Violin Sonata

            How childish to rattle on about up votes. It just means there are others
            as dim-witted as you. Stevie ..

  • JohnJ

    Freddy, mate too much Chardonnay. The world of the protected writer chatting over the roast lamb is not the world the rest of us live in. The reason you can pontificate on Trump is because of the Trumps of years past protecting you and creating a just society. The Lady Macbeths who rule England and EU will destroy your livelihood. Just look at the enemy Dr Baghdadi PhD and co.

  • John Smith

    Another talking head that knows better than the American people

  • WFB56

    The author lost all credibility when he made a spurious comparison between Reagan and Trump; they have nothing in common and its a disservice to history to pretend otherwise.

  • Jingleballix

    Very good piece.

    Missed out one thing though………the whining, self-righteous, politically-correct lies of the left i.e. the issue of ‘racism’ whereby non-whites are excused their bad acts because of establishment ‘racism’, the climate change BS, the denial of free speech on college campuses………all this pisses real people off big time.

    The libtard left has brought this on themselves.

    The only hope is if Trump actually gets in, and then makes such a scallops of things that he is a one-termer.

    • Johnnydub

      Its not hard to see that the BLM movement is racist to the core.

  • RomanCandle

    Trump is a bit of a demagogue, it can’t be denied. He’s certainly thin-skinned and obscene. But a fascist? No.

    He’s America’s Berlusconi, not America’s Mussolini.

    • Mrs Cravatt

      Spot on.

  • Ken

    I find it hard to understand why, when Trump is a dead cert to get the nomination, Republicans still try to undermine him. Would they prefer Clinton? A strong Republican House could rein in his wilder notions. Don’t they want to win? Interesting comparison with Mussolini – who was much praised by many in the UK (e.g Churchill) in his earlier years, before he got into bed with Hitler. He also did a lot to modernise Italy and, like Franco, is one of those dictators who in many ways benefited their countries. But again the comparison is off-beam, since the US Constitution will curb Trump’s dictatorial tendencies. In the UK, with Cameron selling the country down the river, one can see why Americans love Trump.

  • Bonkim

    Nothing wrong with Trump. He speaks the common man’s language. That is democracy. Democracy has nothing do with morality – just the will of the people.

    • Daniel Christian

      democracy is broken when the people are morally and intellectually bankrupt.

      • Mrs Cravatt

        You could say exactly the sane thing about Clinton.

        • Daniel Christian

          mrs. Clinton is the result, not the means.

      • Bonkim

        Even Jack-asses have their democratic rights – who is to judge what is moral and intellectual and what is not? You?

        • UKSteve

          Utterly ridiculous comment and question; who else?

          Name someone in history who has devolved their moral and intellectual judgement to someone else?

          • Bonkim

            We all do that at election time in a democracy. There is no such thing as absolute morality.

          • UKSteve

            You might, I don’t – and I don’t know anyone who does either.

            We vote for people, but it’s nonsense to suggest anyone ‘devolve[s] their moral and intellectual judgement’ to election candidates.

        • Daniel Christian

          We all have a moral compass, some of us exercise it a little more than others. But i bet that even you would have things that you would say are definitely wrong. The problem is not the donkeys but the amount of them. There are and always have been idiots that can’t find their own butt with both hands.

          • Bonkim

            Everyone in a democracy are given the same rights – no one sits in judgement selecting who is allowed and who is not to have equal rights with all others – intelligence is not a selection criteria or religious and other values. Only way one forfeits ones liberty is by being tried in a court if there is any breach in law and found guilty. Your opinion is no different from someone else’s. Trump has so far not breached any Laws of the land.

            Morality is relative in the modern world – and the Church has ceased to be the arbiter of morality.

          • Daniel Christian

            Really? Only in a democracy everyone has the same rights? The constitution gives everyone the same rights, the Magna Carta gave everyone the same rights, there are plenty of constitution like documents in monarchy’s and autocracies around the world. Democracy means government by majority, it is not in and of itself a guarantor of equal rights. And everyone does not have equal rights, for example, who decides that 17 year olds aren’t allowed to vote, and why do you think that is? Do you think that someone maybe said, well, these are just kids who maybe don’t have enough cognitive understanding, or maybe they are still living with mom and dad and aren’t financially responsible. The same reasons that this Democracy decided many years ago that legal age limit to vote should be 18 are the same reasons that would disqualify a lot of morally and intellectually bankrupt grown men and women from voting. This is why democracy is broken in this country and is the antithesis as to why Tocqueville described demoracy worked in this country 200 years ago.

          • Bonkim

            Yes agree with you.

      • Cyril Sneer

        Oh that’s it insult the people many of whom previously had voted for the same people you did.

        Something made them change their minds and all you have is insults.

        You don’t work for Labour by any chance?

        • Daniel Christian

          Yeah anger made them change their minds… you never make good decisions when angry. I’m not insulting anyone by that statement, i’m simply stating a fact. You should read De Tocqueville’s musings on democracy in America… His conclusions as to why it works so well back in the early 1800’s are the same reasons why it is broken today. We are morally and intellectually bankrupt as a society.

        • Daniel Christian

          Sorry wrong country, this is America not England.

    • UKSteve

      He’s a jackas$ who spouts illegal BS – a weapons-grade cret1n.

      • Bonkim

        He is forthright and calls a spade a spade. The US electorate will judge him and if they don’t like what is is saying or question his capability will not vote him in. It is not the business of anyone outside the US to value judge what he is saying. The EU will be in hot water soon allowing all these unwanted migrants holding medieval values in, and I don’t blame Trump for not wanting this lot or the Mexican drug cartels invading the US. I like someone that speaks plain English without worrying about keeping up appearances.

  • Mongo

    in a strange kind of way Trump’s rise mirrors Corbyn’s – a fringe outsider who everybody saw as a joke, voted into a powerful position by a bunch of very angry people.

    Seems all western nations are become increasingly politically polarised away from the centre ground. Things are starting to get very ugly

    • Cyril Sneer

      For the most part we can thank the left for this polarisation.

      • OmnipotentWizard

        It is only the activists that have been polarised. As usual the public prefer the centre ground.

        • Mrs Cravatt

          You might be right but I feel things are changing. The rise of UKIP, French National Front, socialist parties in Greece and Spain. I think there is feeling across the world that the people want real change.

          • OmnipotentWizard

            Every time there is a recession then the extremist parties rise and as the recession fades the extremist parties go back to sleep again for the next nine or ten years.

            In poorer countries you are more likely to get extreme regimes in control. However as global extreme poverty is due to be banished within the next couple of decades then extremism will slowly fade away all over the World.

      • Johnnydub

        I think the issue is that the Republicans like to Tories and soft left – and so both countries have no opposition to left wing destructive lunacy.

    • OmnipotentWizard

      Remember that Trump/Corbyn have been voted for by party activists and not the public. The Republicans/Labour have been doing so badly that the Right/Left wing of the party has taken the opportunity to strike. Trump/Corbyn will need to crash and burn in the election before the sane heads in there party reasserts control.

      • Mongo

        true but I feel the general public are being polarised too. The meteoric rise of UKIP and other right/nationalistic movements across Europe which in turn has sparked a rise in far left/socialist groups and parties to counter them. America more politically divided and angry than any time since the 1960s, Europe in chaos and crisis.

        The pendulum swung too far to the Left – with mass uncontolled immigration, insane levels of political correctness and the pernicious Islamisation of Western countries – and now it’s lurching to the right

        • UKSteve

          Plus ‘multicultralism’ – as evil as Hitler’s Nazis – and disavowed by Ruth Kelly, Theresa Amy and Angela Merkel!

          • OmnipotentWizard

            “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1” (Godwins’ Law)

            “And the person making the comparison will be the one who has no other cogent argument.” (Wizard’s
            Codicil)

          • UKSteve

            Oh it’s you.

            1) Find an adult with a dictionary.
            2) Get them to explain “comparison” to you.

            Unless you were implying that Hitler’s Anzi’s weren’t evil?; as you type so much bilge, it’s difficult to know.

            “And the person who calls themselves a very silly name (esp. if it includes “Wizard” or some such), shall hereby be labelled an absolute to0l.” (Steve’s Axiom)

          • OmnipotentWizard

            You seem a bit touchy Steve. Just comparing multicultralism to the evil of Nazism is so disrespectful to the generation that suffered so much to defeat Hitler.

          • UKSteve

            Nope.

            That’s your interpretation, not mine. Had you explored my rationale, rather than seek to arrive at instantaneous judgement, it would have been different.

            My father – and his brothers – fought in the war.

          • Mrs Cravatt

            “My father – and his brothers – fought in the war.” – no they didn’t.

          • UKSteve

            Truly cretin0us – go back to cleaning behind the cooker.

          • Mrs Cravatt

            I think UKSteve you have lost the argument by resorting to personal abuse.

          • UKSteve

            I think you may be able to share his dictionary.

            Then you can look up ‘abuse’ and ‘sarcasm’.

            Grow up.

        • OmnipotentWizard

          “The meteoric rise of UKIP…” Never happened. In spite of all the hype before the last general election look at how they performed. Even Farage couldn’t win his seat after all that publicity. I made a lot of money betting with UKIPpers who thought they would get 15+ MPs.

          We have been through a recession (which is now fading) with an immigration crisis (which will subside soon).

          Job public in the UK doesn’t see immigration or islamification except on TV . They are too busy watching X-factor to worry.

          There are a minority on left & right that are getting agitated but the majority will do what they always do – vote for the party that occupies the middle ground.

          • Mongo

            I meant the rise of UKIP in terms of the support they have and votes they got – which is impressive – rather than the seats they failed to win because of FPTP

            as for this comment:

            ‘Job public in the UK doesn’t see immigration or islamification except on TV’

            I can assure you I very much do see immigration and Islamification – every time I step outside my door and walk down my increasingly deteriorating street. Perhaps you live in a nice middle clase white suburb or a secluded village somewhere

          • UKSteve

            They failed to win because they had absolutely no strategy – that’s the problem with blo0dy ‘Kippers- it’s always the system that’s wrong / bent / corrupt / rigged / fixed, etc, etc.

          • UKSteve

            They failed to win because they had absolutely no strategy – that’s the problem with blo0dy ‘Kippers- it’s always the system that’s wrong / bent / corrupt / rigged / fixed, etc, etc.

          • OmnipotentWizard

            Immigrants do what they always do and congregate in certain areas. In the past areas of London were – Jewish, Dutch, Irish, Russian, Huguenot, Black Caribbean, etc. and then after three generations they disperse.

            Both my kids went to Uni and they say that almost all the young Muslims are “weekend Muslims” – secular at Uni and only Muslim to please their parents. This is the pattern of all previous waves of immigrants.

            The fastest growing group in the UK is agnostics.

          • Mrs Cravatt

            UKIP got three times as many votes as the SNP. I believe they would have got more seats if it wasn’t for the Tories line that “Milliband would be in Sturgeon’s pocket”.

          • OmnipotentWizard

            People tend to vote against what they don’t like rather than for a particular candidate. Add up the votes and you’ll find UKIP got a lot more than three times as many people voting against them as the SNP did.

  • Ben Caldwell

    I will vote for Trump, and while I would bicker a little with some of your commentary, I must say that you have written the most comprehensive analysis of why I will vote for Trump. Perhaps this is sad to say, but I don’t feel no ways sad. The president and a congress have operated against the clear will of the people, against oaths of office, and often against the constitution and the rule of law generally. I recall a comment President Obama made early in his presidency. When the elected opposition and representatives of the people tried to reason and negotiate with him, he contemptuously replied: “Elections have consequences.” Indeed. Karma is a b****, ain’t it.

    • Daniel Christian

      so voting for someone who has gone thru 3 wives, several bankruptcies thru subcorporations in different states, acquired property thru dubious means and imminent domain using his daddy’s money, and now under investigation for tax fraud will help restore integrity to to our government… people like you should not be allowed to decide where to eat for lunch today, nonetheless who our next president is going to be. People who make decisions when angry, make wrong decisions.

      • noix

        Interesting to compare Hollande with Trump vis a vis his women. Hollande had four children with a woman he never married and left her while she was pregnant with the fourth to be with another and then cheated on the new one with a young actress during his presidency. But, of course, he is of the left.

        • Cyril Sneer

          Standard scum left wing behaviour.

      • Mrs Cravatt

        That’s nothing compared to Hilary Clinton’s evil. When she worked as a young attorney in the Watergate saga, her actions set the tone for her career. She was fired by her supervisor, lifelong Democrat Jerry Zeifman, who said “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer”

        • Daniel Christian

          Clinton is just a dishonest crooked politician, what we expect from a democrat. Trump is something else entirely.

          • Mrs Cravatt

            Trump has many faults, but the one significant thing in his favour is that he isn’t part of the corrupt establishment.

          • UKSteve

            So his businesses are squeaky-clean?

        • UKSteve

          Pot….kettle?

          • Mrs Cravatt

            And another thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump’s investigation by the IRS has something to do with Clinton. During Bill Clinton’s terms in office, IRS audits were conducted against individuals and groups who caused problems for the administration. Several prominent conservative groups found themselves facing IRS audits following their criticism of the president and his policies. Also ex lovers of Bill Clinton such as Gennifer Flowers were subject to an IRS investigation. No democrat supporting organisation were investigated at that time.

          • UKSteve

            But aren’t all the arms of government at it’s disposal – corrupt or otherwise?

          • Mrs Cravatt

            Using the IRS as the Gestapo is abuse of power.

          • UKSteve

            So is using the courts and other branches – goes on everywhere.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Your girl Clinton is a crook just like your boy Obama.

        • Kitty

          Great post. Why are people (both sides) ignoring all this! Yes she is responsible for the Ambassador’s death (and the SEALS) she denied them security and didn’t answer the call for help. PLUS she lied to the grieving parents — unreal. Also, all those who “committed suicide” who were connected to her and Billy, you are exactly right. She also allowed CIA operatives lives to be put at risk by purposely having her email servers unsecured. Voters need to do their research. How anyone can not vote for Trump (if he is the nominees) is beyond my comprehension, when they know it can help HC win.

        • Colleen A Cacy

          How do know he isn’t a murderer? If I decided to start a rumor about how Trump murdered a bunch of people, there would be as much evidence for that claim as there is for the total bullshit you have swallowed about Clinton.

          • Cyril Sneer

            Ah another clueless soul.

      • Ben Caldwell

        Did you use the words “integrity” and “government” in the same sentence? Who said anything about “restor[ing] integrity to our government”? George MacDonald wrote, “It is not in the nature of politics that the best men should be elected. The best men do not want to govern their fellow men.” How can you not know this? Your “people like you” remark is simply ignorant (i.e., lacking knowledge or information). You do not know me, or anything about me, other than that I will vote for Donald Trump for president. From that alone, you feel comfortable concluding that I “should not be allowed to decide where to eat for lunch today”? That’s quite a mind you have, so open, so broad, so high. Maybe voting for Trump will turn out to be a “wrong” decision, whatever that means to you, but how can you presume to know that now. People make what may appear to you to be “wrong” decisions for all kinds of reasons, and it may turn out that the decisions they made were good ones after all. You may make what you think is a “good” decision that turns out to have terrible consequences. Can you not appreciate how limited human knowledge and foresight are? You should not be so self-assured, it’s bad for the heart…I am not angry, but I am amused. Lighten up, Daniel, and don’t take yourself so seriously. We all sit here lost, doing our best to deny it,…muttering small talk at the wall.

        • Daniel Christian

          yeah integrity in government… it should be there. What is the point of having a government if there is no faith that the president will preside, the legislative branch will legislate and the judicial branch will judge. In the last 8 years this has gone all cafluey… so to speak.. thank you for your eloquent words but they are pretty empty. I take the responsibility of voting for a president seriously and i try to make the right one. I try to make it as emotion free as possible… The decisions we make affect not ourselves but future generations. There are 535 men and women in congress and there are few that have been trying to stand up for the constitution… the supreme law of the land that they were sworn to uphold. Ted Cruz is one of them. Then we have Donald Trump… who can’t even keep his marriage vows. That may mean nothing to someone like you but it means something to me.

          • Mrs Cravatt

            Being unfaithful means a lot to you but for the majority of the western world it’s just a fact of life. In theory it would be great to be monogamous but in reality our ‘inner chimp’ takes over.

          • Daniel Christian

            Yeah since Darwin their has been those that believe we are nothing but animals and those that believe we were created for something a little higher. Ever ask why do we even bother making vows then if we are just going to follow our animal instincts… maybe we are trying to appeal to something higher than ourselves? Something deep inside we know exists? Mrs Cravatt, i don’t give two figs about what the majority of the western world thinks. Marriage means something to me, like the swan, it means til death do us part.

    • UKSteve

      Don’t they (‘elections’) ever? We’ve had enough of Americans putting dribbling imbeciles in the White House – thank you. Trump isn’t much better than Bush (who destabilised the world’s security and created $18 trillion of US govt. debt in 8 years) – please find another statesman with the intellect, stature and gravitas of Barack Obama. No more imbeciles. Thanks.

      • Ben Caldwell

        You got me, UK Steve! I almost thought you were serious, until the last few words. I gotta hand it to you, you know how to do irony! What a card! You could give Terry Gilliam a run for his money (interesting, it takes an American to make even your best known comedy troupe funny!) ;-).

        • UKSteve

          It didn’t. He did the drawings – that’s all. Now, back to your Batman comics, there’s a good lad.

          • Ben Caldwell

            Ok, Steve. You’re not even trying anymore, are you?

          • UKSteve

            With an upvote on my post, once again, you are amazingly wrong. But at least you’re consistent, bless!

      • Cyril Sneer

        “please find another statesman with the intellect, stature and gravitas of Barack Obama.”

        As I thought, you’re f cking clueless.

        • UKSteve

          As I thought, consistently mor0nic.

          I’m better informed and educated than you could ever hope to be.

    • Colleen A Cacy

      How do you imagine that an entitled bully of a billionaire who is in no way an “outsider” will change the status quo even one tiny bit? Thanks for drinking the koolaid.

      • Ben Caldwell

        “Thanks for drinking the cool-aid.” Is that the best you can do? Did you ever consider that a vote for Trump is a vote for anarchy?

      • Cyril Sneer

        Ah bless, isn’t that sweet.

  • rhcrest

    It’s amazing the drivel that people write once the so called little people have had enough of being pushed around. I could give a rat’s about the rest of the world. I am not willing to accept the gains of foreign countries at the expense of american. These other countries can go eat sh** as far as I am concerned. I don’t want to give any more foreign aid, foreign military power and I certainly don’t want to lose anymore jobs to these effing countries anymore. AMERICA FIRST LAST AND ALWAYS!! YES GREED FOR AMERICA!!! Does that make your leftist little heads explode? GOOD!

    • pigbitinmad

      I mostly agree as long as we never forget that it is OUR companies that did this (which is why I boycott them all especially Amazon). Like I said below, if the Elites of America — who got very rich at our expense — are that afraid of Trump, they can start by paying reparations. My vote can be purchased. (But yes, it’s ludicrous to say America’s attitude toward globalization is “generous.” It would be more accurate to say that it’s been rammed down our throats despite vociferous opposition by all but our 1%).

    • UKSteve

      Can you p1$s off to an American site?Sounds like Faux News is right up your alley.

      • George Scoresby

        He’s just saying what the little people think. Which is why Trump is coming for you.

        • UKSteve

          erratum : “little-brained people”

          Like yourself – only with a brain.

      • rhcrest

        Why should I pi** off? This article is about the American election.

      • blackmalemeydoncha

        Typical hypocritical American-hating lefty…if anyone else were to say to any non-Euro to go back to a [their nationality] site, you’d be among the first and the loudest to scream the r’r-word.

        • UKSteve

          Typically mor0n1c comment from…well, you can guess I’m sure.

          There’s that imbecilic “lefty” label again – I swear that if someone with an IQ of 100 entered America, it’s collective IQ would double.

          I’m a strong believer in geo-blocking to preserve the quality of debate – so that it doesn’t descend in “lefty”, “libtard”, etc, etc.

          • Cyril Sneer

            *tumbleweed*

          • UKSteve

            ….has plenty of room to float around inside your head.

    • https://suestevensonwriter.wordpress.com Sue

      This could only be written by someone who has little understanding of their country’s foreign policy and the destruction it has unleashed on other countries for decades and decades. Enslavement of third world countries to benefit the American way of life. And now that there’s barely anyone left to rape now you all start complaining. I don’t think there’s any deepe level of greed and selfishness and myopia that you people could sink to. Trump is the perfect candidate for people like you.

      • rhcrest

        Benefit the American way of life? Surely you jest. All that is done us US taxpayers are continually soaked for more and more tax money to pay for foreign aid, foreign military protection etc. Enough! American foreign policy should be to stay out of the affairs of foreign countries and to take care of our own people and to put our own people first just like other countries do. Other countries don’t think about putting American citizens before their own citizens so we should reciprocate in kind.

  • Maria Limpiador

    As a Spaniard, I am doubly removed from the 2 big questions of 2016: Trump, and Brexit.

    However, while I will make no claim to looking in a crystal ball, I do feel the earth shifting under my feet…

    You read it here first: the UK will vote (perhaps narrowly) to leave the EU and the Donald will become the GOP candidate. People are really, really FED UP !!!

    Both of these outcomes are dangerous, but the honest man would allow that the alternatives may actually be worse 🙁

    • Johnnydub

      This. The remainers are trying to say that leaving is too risky – yet the prospect of staying in the EU is far more risky.

      The two biggest challenges to the EU are self inflicted – the Euro and the migrant crisis. It looks like after Merkel making a unilateral invitation to migrants, its suddenly Europe’s problem and quotas are on their way, and on the financial side, another bank crisis is looming and again, the UK is going to be expected (i.e. ordered) to throw more money into the bottomless pit.

      The leave option is by far the less risky – we have to escape this current generation of politicians who do nothing but make things worse.

  • jackinkeywest

    Another writer who admits he was wrong about Trump, his strength as a candidate and huge number of loyal supporters he has… BUT he goes on to predict Hillary will beat Trump in the General Election. REALLY? You think you now understand Trump’s appeal and strengths but somehow continue to believe Hillary Clinton will beat him? WTF? Have you not seen the masses of DEMS and LIBS switching parties in the primaries to support Trump? Trump will get the Reagan Blue collar DEMS in droves. You writers, you still DON’T GET IT! TRUMP/GINGRICH 2016!

    • samton909

      Anyone who uses a little picture of Trump to represent himself is too far gone to argue with.

  • baldwin

    ….It’s easy to forget that the relative peace and prosperity we have enjoyed since the second world war has been underpinned by America’s stability and its might, both economic and military. That might sound like neocon twaddle, but it’s true. America’s generous attitude to globalisation has helped us all become richer — the manufacturing boom in Asia and Latin America, for instance, came at the expense of American jobs, but America accepted it. While European governments have steadily slashed their armies to pieces, US military spending now makes up 73 per cent of Nato’s total spend. There’s no such thing as a free world, really. Uncle Sam always picks up the tab. As John F. Kennedy said: ‘The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it.’ Trump would say that sounds like a bum deal….
    I would never vote for Trump, but he is not wrong on everything. Just France and Germany combined have more people and a lot more money than Russia—why are we in Europe at all?

  • UKSteve

    Anyone who thinks Barack Obama is a “disappointment” must have brain damage.

    • If I may just butt in here..

      Indeed, because he’s a disaster.
      How’s that “red line” in Syria working out?
      Sorted the “JV” team yet?
      Obamacare premiums through the roof? Again?
      Some Asian taken your job on an H-1B?

      • Ben Caldwell

        Right you are, but we must be misreading Mr. Steve. He must be pulling our leg. Even Hillary and Bernie recognize the disaster of his presidency, although I wouldn’t dispute that Hillary has brain damage.

        • UKSteve

          “Even Hillary and Bernie recognize the disaster of his presidency……”

          Proof please.

          • Ben Caldwell

            Bernie: “What we have seen in recent years is a huge transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top 0.1%, whose percentage of wealth in America has doubled,” Sanders recently bellowed. “We’re talking about trillions of dollars going from the middle class to the top 0.1%. Fifty-eight percent of all new income is going to the top 1%.” Added Sanders, “That’s a rigged economy to my mind.”—–In recent years it’s the current president’s policies that have been rigging the economy. Every claim Sanders and Bernie make is a claim to fix a problem: income inequality, racial injustice, a struggling middle-class, etc. I really wanted to think you were a clever ironist, Mr. Steve, but your just a run-of-the-mill idiot.

          • UKSteve

            I was hoping when you offered this there would be something in the way of an intelligent post. More fool me, I guess.

            Why is it that you Mor0nicans toss out “liberal” as thought wit was some kind of slur or insult? It is so incredibly childish – this is why we don’t like them infesting our forums – many people here are beyond that, and even the silly labels of ‘left / right’ wing are losing their meaning.

            I would imagine The Bern is talking more about the Bush (W) years – when he practised “trickle down” (a.k.a. bullsh1t) economics – big tax cuts to the rich so the poor can benefit. Either way, for you to be quoting Sanders and calling other people (esp. arch-Thatcherites) “liberals” is beyond hilarious.

            And you misquote: This is from Obama’s last State of the Union:

            “But there are some areas where we just have to be honest — it has been difficult to find agreement over the last seven years. And a lot of them fall under the category of what role the government should play in making sure the system’s not rigged in favor of the wealthiest and biggest corporations.”

          • WTF

            You sound just like my apologist son in law who finds all manner of excuses for Obamas failures other than the man himself. Its strange that Democrats haven’t really worked with him perhaps its a problem he has with interpersonal skills and not everyone else !

            Regan never had a problem, Kennedy didn’t seem to and neither did philanderer Bill Clinton. Perhaps one should look into the mirror if everyone else cant work with you ?

          • UKSteve

            So there are two erudite and intelligent guys in your life!? How tragic that you ignore both; he sounds like a ‘dude’! 🙂

            The Democratic party is in full meltdown – as are they both. Just look at the quality of the candidates. Obama has major faults – communication is one of them. I gather he still hasn’t invited the House Speaker to a game of golf – after 8 years – the hallmark of an active working relationship.

            But it’s no excuse for what has gone on – hence my link.

            https://ourfuture.org/20140923/the-cost-to-our-economy-from-republican-obstruction-and-sabotage

          • WTF

            Thats one view, others differ but when a poster brings a persons color into the discussion when it has nothing to do with the subject, there’s obviously a serious problem with that individual as their thought process (if they have any) is clouded by race !

          • WTF

            “I would imagine” – well your imagination certainly runs wild with all manner of assertions but when given hard proven facts you dismiss them and use the race card !

          • UKSteve

            That’s why I started my post:

            “I was hoping when you offered this there would be something in the way of an intelligent post.”

          • WTF

            Hillary has flip-flopped around this but now backs Obama because she feels under threat and needs his support whilst Bernie has certainly criticized Obama. As for Bill, didn’t he make some racist remark back in 2008 about Obama being a servant in different times ?

            Funny that, given your unwarranted racist attack against me further down, but I should point out that it was Democrats who were opposed to stopping Slavery at the time of the civil war and the Republicans who pushed through the abolition of slavery.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/12/just-how-harshly-has-bernie-sanders-criticized-president-obama-lets-break-it-down/

            http://hotair.com/archives/2010/01/09/bill-clinton-2008-on-obama-a-few-years-ago-this-guy-would-have-been-getting-us-coffee/

          • UKSteve

            There was no attack against you.

      • UKSteve

        The Affordable Care Act.
        Renewed relations with Cuba.
        An agreement on nuclear research control with Iran.
        72 months of straight job growth – unprecedented in US history.
        Almost arresting the rate of growth of US debt – despite Nobel Laureate economist telling him it couldn’t be done….

        ….and all on his own, because no one would work with him as he’s …..you know …….black.

        • Mongo

          the Iran deal may come back to haunt us all

          • UKSteve

            I doubt it – what he did was extraordinarily statesmanlike, and the deal is backed by Russia.

          • samton909

            Oh, if Putin backs it, it must be good

          • UKSteve

            Oh, if you typed it, it must be ridiculous rubbish.

            And guess what? It is!

        • JPVan

          Pure and unadulterated bunk. The ACA has accomplished one thing, the creation of a new income stream for the medical-industrial complex, aggravating rather than addressing the fact that the US is paying two and one-half times as much for healthcare as the average cost in other developed countries (see OECD health statistics).

          • UKSteve

            And here, for all to say we have, the brainlessness of the average American.

            You see, if the Republicans (and some Democrats!) could have put their naked racism behind them, and actually worked in favour of the American people, you#d have probably gotten the scheme you wanted, AND with cheaper premiums.

            But no. Racist idiots only have themselves to blame.

            http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/republicans-legislation-obama-dccc-event-106481

          • WTF

            The problem was Obama lacked the b***s to bring in EU style socialized medicine by explaining what it really means and he ended up with a completely f***** up system that’s the worst of all worlds. His own party wouldn’t go there to allow affordable health care but it had nothing to do with racism but ideology and dogma.

            The health system is broken in America as far as affordability but its hardly surprising when Nancy Pelosi told the house to sign off on 20,000 pages of legislation and to read it later that it hasn’t worked.

          • UKSteve

            The problem with your comments is that they are consistently (and tediously) devoid of any information or facts.

            As I’ve said repeatedly, if RepublicanMorons hadn’t played politics with his skin colour, and concentrated on getting the best bi-partisan deal for up to 21 million Americans without health insurance (a true obscenity in the world’s most powerful economy), God knows what they could have had. They took out the ‘single payer option’ at the very start – a moronic action – which is what Bernie Sanders wanted all along; and extension to Medicare and Medicaid – very logical, very practical, very cost efficient. But no, just so they could play racism disguised as party politics.

            If it was passed sooner, the premiums might not have been so high.

            What Obama has achieved was extraordinary – he’is record is amazing, if you lose the skin colour bias. http://bit.ly/1h9Risi

          • samton909

            You sad little man. Your only defense of Obama comes down to ‘everyone who disagrees with him is racist? That is unbelievably pathetic.

          • UKSteve

            Wow – don’t see that too often!

            Reductio ad absurdum conflated with a fallacious induction – that takes a special kind of stoopid. But ‘well done’…..I suppose.

            Next…..

          • WTF

            I gave you solid facts on drug costs and I’ll even scan the invoices in and email them to you ! You’re the one refusing to accept facts !

          • UKSteve

            Yes, facts on prices, which were nothing to do with anything as I pointed out. But again, you either didn’t read or didn’t understand the point I was making so have ended up making yourself look foolish. Again.

            The thrust of my argument was against the GOP / American institutions, if you’d read it – it is unchanged. Your rebuttal was no better than theirs. You come on an adult discussion forum, and dismiss proper discussion points with a somewhat childish manner.

            Then, when a valid response is given:

            “Go seek some counseling(sic), you really need it…”

            Maybe you should go back to jigsaw puzzles, reading doesn’t seem to be your thing.

            https://rrca.revues.org/489

            http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/05/17/axelrod-race-a-factor-in-some-of-criticism-of-president-obama/

            http://projects.iq.harvard.edu/files/cces/files/schaffner-_racial_salience_pp_revised.pdf

            http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-obamas-race-absolutely-factors-into-fierce-opposition/

          • Jab

            Dont bother about this troll, the racist label doesnt work these days (except in the guardian) its the last desperate call of losers.

          • samton909

            In the end, your only defense is to call people who raise valid points “racist” You are a twit.

          • UKSteve

            Don’t try and run before you can walk, trailer-tr0ll.

            Maybe start with Dr Seuss or Sesame St., then work your way up?

          • WTF

            On medication its far worse than that, see above.

          • UKSteve

            Pure an unalloyed stupidity?

            And whose fault is that? How many attempts were made to introduce a cost effective health care plan for 21 million Americans? Here, read this, you might learn something.

            https://ourfuture.org/20140923/the-cost-to-our-economy-from-republican-obstruction-and-sabotage

        • WTF

          1/ Affordable care act, let me give you one simple fact.

          I lived in Spain for 11 years and was on their socialized health care just like the UK. As a pensioner I needed low dosage blood pressure pills that cost me on prescription around 50 centimos (40p) for a months supply, I paid 10% the state paid 90% or around €4.50. I could also buy these over the counter without a prescription for the same price, €5.

          I moved to America last year and I pay towards medicare as I expected to and asked my primary care doctor for a prescription for the same pills. No problem he said, they are low cost good pills and he wrote me out a prescription. Off to the pharmacy and I paid around $8 for the same pills whilst my insurance company shelled out around $60 for exactly the same pills as I had in Spain. Affordable health care you must be joking and thank goodness my are ‘low cost’ by American standards !!!!

          2/ Had to happen sooner or later, no big deal.

          3/ Iran building nukes, sounds like a recipe for disaster especially with no unannounced independent checks.

          4/ Just like the UK, people come off benefits and disappear from the unemployment figures.

          5/ Last years deficit (what is spent vs what comes in) was $483 billion, national debt $20 trillion and still rising at deficit rates.

          Some legacy !!!!

          • UKSteve

            And yet again, crypto-racist bigotry in a knowledge vacuum pervades. Very depressing.

            1/ You don’t need to. In the southern USA in 1982, I needed some fairly cutting-edge medication, so took my script off to the pharmacy. $58.40! In 1982! What’s that, about $350 these days (equiv.)

            What you’ve posted has F*** all (to use your style) to do with Obama. Americans in the northern states have been organising coach trips to go to Canada where friendly pharmacies will dispense their scripts at 25 – 35% of the US $ cost. This has been going on for 15 years to my certain knowledge, because Congress tried to block it, under lobbying pressure from big pharma. Obama’s been in power only 8 – “do the math”.

            2/ A comment as childish and churlish as it is ignorant. RepublicanMorons tried to block Obama’s attempts at a dialogue with Cuba, after a freeze of 56 years. So childish, it’s actually pathetic. It will be huge deal – lots of very cheap holidays for Americans, a massive tourism boost for the Cubans, to say nothing of ease of family reunifications. I’ve changed my mind, your comment wasn’t childish, it was f*****g imbecilic.

            3/ You didn’t read or understand this. The agreement was backed by Russia, and China who will oversee compliance, including the huge reduction in the number of essential centrifuges Try the news now and again.

            4/ Actually too brain-damaged to warrant a serious response.

            5/ The current US debt stands at $19 trillion, but only $13.7 trillion of that is public – proportionately lower in his time, the remainder is intra-governmental debt. When Bill Clinton left office, he left a small budget surplus. When Dubya left office, he stuck Obama guy with a ballooning $10.7 trillion of debt. Hence the rest of my comment.

            He has very possibly- been the most successful president in US history – and he hasn’t even started any new wars.

          • WTF

            1/ You claimed it was affordable not I, I refuted that by showing that in 2016 the same drugs cost 10 times more in the USA than Spain and in spite of that insurance companies are claiming they are going bust . Failed on that !

            2/ As I said, hardly a major deal and yes, I do agree from a UK perspective that I never understood why in 2016 Cuba was a big deal especially compared to Iran. You do need to take some calms though before you blow a gasket.

            3/ And you trust Putin and China ?

            4/ I suggest you read this rather claiming brain damage. When benefits stop you disappear from the jobless stats as that’s how they are calculated.

            http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/08/06/1-million-jobless-left-out-of-uk-govt-unemployment-figures/

            https://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2012/08/26/how-the-dwp-manufactures-falling-unemployment-figures/

            http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/12/creating-opportunity-in-the-workplace

            5/ Your opinion, others differ !

          • UKSteve

            Oh dear. Just way too childish…..

          • WTF

            You’re the one throwing whose their toys out of their pram for all to see, and I don’t have to respond to facts by insults. On the rare occasion a progressive liberal posts one, I’ll reply with facts.

          • UKSteve

            I don’t respond to childishness;

            “…no big deal.”

            Yet no-one else even thought of it…..in 56 years.

            If only your’d read something….

        • samton909

          The Affordable care act caused about 7 million people to have their insurance rates doubled.
          Relations with Cuba improved by themselves, because Fidel Castro got sick and is out of power. But claiming that this is some big achievement is a joke.
          The agreement with Iran does exactly nothing, and they have broken it several times already. Get ready for a nuclear Iran in a couple of years.
          If there is such great job growth in the US, why is the massive Trump swell based on people who have lost their jobs.
          He doubled the National debt

          Go home.

          • UKSteve

            Your opinions would shame a half-witted and uninformed 11 year old.

            Go and read something (other than Superman comics).

    • samton909

      No, he is not a disappointment. He is a disaster.

      When he took office, Bush had the Middle East under control. Gradually improving. It was a tough slog, but he had things in control and improving.

      Then the great peace man, Barack Obama took over, told all the Muslims that he wanted to give them a big hug, and that would solve all our problems.

      Now you have ISIS, an out of control war in Syria, millions of migrants having their lives destroyed, Europe being invaded, The world is in constant crisis, because Obama has no idea what to do.

      • UKSteve

        Well……as I sad…..brain-damage.

        What you’ve typed is infantile bilge.

    • WTF

      There speaks the ‘oracle’, wow !

      • UKSteve

        And in your case…..!

  • Connecticut Farmer

    What is sad to see are so many decent people being taken in by Trump’s dog-and-pony show.Trump has to contend with what I call “The System”–the very System that has brought us to our current predicament. Trump may be bigger than life, but he isn’t bigger than The System. Nobody is, at least so far. And alas for Trump and his followers, Hillary Clinton IS “The System”, so we will have four years of Hillary Clinton. The System will swallow Trump like the whale swallowed Jonah, only to be regurgitated four years hence, by which time I fear things will be a lot worse than they are now.

  • jbouriaque

    Quoted from article “the manufacturing boom in Asia and Latin America, for instance, came at the expense of American jobs, but America accepted it.” – No, jobs are the real reason for the “Trump” phenomenon, and the rage of middle class America. American Corporations cannot use slave labor in the US, so they use foreign slave labor. The jobs lost in America by the middle class have reached such staggering numbers, the middle class has gone into full revolt. The Republican party has gotten the “brunt” of the revolt because they are supported heavily by the American Corporations.

  • Free Voice

    it’s racism pure and simple. stupid old fashioned racism is where most of his base is stemming from. over 60% of his supporters think obama is a secret muslim. enough said. this piece is a piece of garbage.

    • WTF

      Most have essentially forgotten about Obama as he’s at the end of his two terms and its ancient history what people think about his birth place.

  • DaviddeAngelis

    Don’t forget the BBC’s portrayal of Mexicans: https://twitter.com/DavidSedgwick4/status/705822924213772288

  • disqus_3W22PHzgh4

    This is a hyper-exaggerated ,hysterical take on what Trump is, , when the man is standing up to what is truly menacing us; open borders, ISIS growing ,and the takeout of entire Christian populations throughout the Middle East and Africa, all under the auspices of the Obama years. Trump is right about the US being on the losing end of trade deals, we know it and this is why he has strong support. Obama doubled our national debt and we have people paying double for their health insurance from Obamacare. You can expect more of the same under Hilary. This is no time for lightweights, sell-outs, and Obama- style subversives. ISIS has the goal of infiltration and Obama has opened the door for them. Trump calls genocide for what it is, while Obama will not use the word Islamic terrorist. No,Obama speaks in mosques and covers up the cross at Notre Dame. HIllary’s prime confidant is Muslim Brotherhood -connected Huma Abedin. If the world were safer a man like Ben Carson , all all-black man , unlike Obama, a man who stands for true morality, might go farther. Or John Kasich. The voters are not going for a moderate after seeing our nation “change” for the far worse with Obama, who lied his way into political office, and Hillary who stooped to going after women Bill had affairs with, and they helped turn Libya and Syria into terrorist battlegrounds, ignoring genocide against Christians. Trump is not ignoring… he is the opponent of the bullies and users who threaten us.

    • samton909

      My goodness, you have really drunk the Trump Kool aid.

      Trump promises the moon, and never delivers. This is the story of his life. I have followed him for thirty years, and all I have seen is huge promises, and everyone who trusts him getting hurt.

      He is a joke. He does not believe the things he says. He is aching to screw you and everyone else who believes what he says. Never trust Donald Trump, he only gets you in trouble.

      • Cyril Sneer

        This is all your opinion and nothing else, literally nothing else.

        Democracy, isn’t it a b tch eh.

  • Patrick Roy

    Actually if you listen to Cruz, he’s more extreme. A real nut job. Abolish the IRS? The man is clearly insane. Rubio is just a plant, he couldn’t make a decision or lead if his life depended on it – well you can see that happening now.

    I like this line Freddy- “the manufacturing boom in Asia and Latin America, for instance, came at the expense of American jobs, but America accepted it.”

    Well, they are no longer accepting it. Trump may be a bit of a blowhard, but he is the only real challenger to the status quo, which has become more and more and more perverse. He is not saying anything more outrageous than many British politicians (who are lauded on this web site), about immigration, over-regulation, job losses to Europe, etc.

    Obama has spent eight years trying to “soften the view of America” from some of the most disgusting and dangerous people on Earth. A serial self-loather who is not even American, Obama has beget Trump. And Trump, through his magnetic unbelievableisms, is pulling everyone off the couch to engage in the process.

    People who have never voted, Independents, Dems, the LOT, are being pulled into the process and voting in the caucuses. This will continue, and he will in all likelihood, win the general election. So gird your loins.

    • samton909

      If you can’t tell a con man when you hear him, i feel sorry for you.

  • Colleen A Cacy

    Hey guys, facts may be inconvenient on this website, but actually the deficit has dropped significantly under Obama. http://www.businessinsider.com/budget-deficit-lowest-under-obama-2014-10

    • Jonathan Bender

      Great plug if you ignore the national debt. When Bush left office we were at 10 trillion, right now we are at 19 trillion. Do we really want another four years of the Obama administration under the new name Clinton. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama-than-under-bush/

    • WTF

      Sounds like you fallen for that scam that George Osborne tried on the UK electorate by conflating annual deficit with national debt. Annual deficit is the amount a government spends compared to what it receives in taxes. That can drop or rise but the national debt is what you owe and unless you pay more than just the interest on that debt it will not drop.

      Let me explain in simple terms. Say you have a credit card debt of $10,000 and the annual rate of interests 15%, you will have to pay $1,500 a year in interest just to keep your debt static at $10,000. Of course, if you spend $500 a month that will add $6000 to your $1,500 annual interest making $7,500 to pay off each year just to stand still leaving your ‘national’ debt unchanged at $10,000.

      In reality using this credit card example, both the UK and USA governments are not paying back $7,500 per year just to keep the national debt from rising although the deficit could have reduced from say $6,000 to $5,000 per year. The deficit has reduced by $1,000 a year just as your link would show BUT the national debt in this example has still risen from $10,000 to $11,500 due to the shortfall in deficit because you’re not paying off the full interest amount.

      Anyone who has fallen foul of credit cards as I did 40 years ago knows that you have to pay the full amount off (deficit) each month to prevent the (national) debt rising and even if you cannot pay the full amount, at least pay the interest amount plus some of capital debt to reduce that (national) debt. Eventually your debt will be zero.

      The same ‘trick’ works extremely well with home loans in a reverse way by paying off more than the required amount each month. I took out a 20 year home loan some 20 years ago but added an extra $200 each month to come off the capital & interest payments. Loan companies hate this trick as reducing the outstanding debt this way reduces the interest they can charge the following month which further increases the debt repayment amount. Its the complete opposite to credit card debt where there is always a deficit, and my 20 year loan ended up being paid off within 10 years or so. The bankers hate it as their life blood is interest payments and you’re depriving them of interest.

    • samton909

      CAN YOU EVEN READ? The article you cited says that it has dropped to the lowest it has every been DURING OBAMA’s time in office. It hasn’t dropped at all. He just jacked it up so high that now it has come down a bit, and is the lowest since he inflated it.

      • Colleen A Cacy

        Why yes, I can read. That is exactly what my comment says. Note I used the words “under Obama”. The article also says “FY2014 was the fifth consecutive year the deficit declined as a percentage of GDP. It is now an estimated 2.8% of GDP, a percentage that puts it below the average of the past 40 years.” There percentage of GDP is more significant than the actual dollar amount.

  • Jonathan Bender

    Reading this article I found, that while I didn’t agree with some of it, Mr. Gray hit on a point that resonates deeply with me and explains why I support Trump. I am tired of the U.S. picking up the bill so the rest of the world can prosper. All the while, other countries just keep taking and taking. Europe snubs their nose at Americans and then expects us to deal with it’s problems. I am all for letting them handle Russia’s expanding power and the Middle East with all it’s problems. We have our own problems to deal with like the loss of jobs which has affected me personally, or the constant flow of drugs across our border. My wife lost her job because the company she worked for moved to Mexico. Subsequently, we fell behind on our mortgage and lost our house. Of those people who worked there, many were told that they had to train their replacements in Mexico or not receive their severance. Explain to me why I should care what the rest of the world thinks of a man who see’s this and wants to stop it.

    • OmnipotentWizard

      So you’ve fallen for his rhetoric then?

      • Cyril Sneer

        It’s called democracy you should try it sometime.

    • samton909

      You big mistake is believing that Rump gives a damn about you at all. Look at his record – he brought in illegals from Poland to work on his buildings in NY; he only hires illegals, for the most part, to work at Mar del Lago. So no, he is not your saviour. He is just a liar who knows the right things to say. He has no intention of ever doing a damn thing for the average guy.

      • Cyril Sneer

        “Never trust con men to run the country.”

        I bet you’ve voted for quite a few.

  • Jacobi

    And of course this has attracted “waiting approval” !!!

    • Jacobi

      And disappeared!

  • Callipygian

    First of all, f*ck Sigmund Freud, the old fraud.

    Secondly, don’t write my country off. We have these challenges. Like slavery, we shall deal with Trump.

    The neurosurgeon is out: that’s old news.

    We are fighting, in my party, tooth and nail, to stop the hijack of our party — the hostile takeover, in other terms — of our party by this vulgar Putin-lover.

    We shall win. Freddy is wrong.

    Rome wasn’t built in a day, and America isn’t lost in a month.

    I am a proud American and I am a stalwart Republican.

    Trumpenstein is going to get his *ss handed to him — and I’m sorry if that’s crass for this side of the ocean. But blame it on the vulgarian that brought our discourse down.

    ANYONE BUT TRUMP 2016!

    I had a dream last night, and it was about Donald and the fight against him. And when I woke up, I thought of this song, after years of not hearing it (skip to ‘Long Time’ on the recording):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTFD5DZwK7g

    –Amanda, Florida

    • Bonkim

      USA was built by Robber-Barons like Trump – you are getting soft now and will not remain top-dog for long. Only those that have fire on their tails run – softies die away.

      • Callipygian

        Thank you for the sad leftist’s perspective.

        What I said about Freud applies to you.

        • Bonkim

          in good company.

  • http://sillyoldsod.com Trev Jones

    I hope Trump doesn’t get to be President! It would be dreadful and dangerous.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_TXe4PQo88

  • Frank Natoli

    Another day, another dozen attacks on Trump, not my man, Cruz is. But to put ALL the issues in perspective, Obama has:
    (1) given Iran the green light to produce nuclear weapons
    (2) eliminated U.S. international leadership
    (3) removed Border Patrol from the Mexican border, opening the border to illegals
    (4) enacted ACA / Obamacare, a significant step to destroying private health insurance
    (5) appointed two extreme left wing young female judges and hopes to appoint a third to the Supreme Court who will be doing damage to the country after many of us are dead and forgotten
    (6) forced shutdown of economical coal fired electric plants
    (7) declared being in love with the guy in the foxhole with you to be something the military must treat as “normal”
    (8) replaced numerous high level officers in the military with those who offer no resistance to his social laboratory changes
    (9) made every effort to strangle 2nd Amendment rights
    (10) raised income tax rates
    (11) added seven trillion dollars to the national debt
    Trump has:
    Done none of the above, but is suspected of EVERYTHING. Exactly what else is EVERYTHING?
    How is it that so many people, on all sides, have an irresistible urge to refer to the “danger” of Trump, but never wrote about the danger of the above when Obama was running in 2008?
    HOW?

    • Akorde

      Obama will not finish his second term!
      http://tinyurl.com/j9vsqry

    • UKSteve

      This is why I wanted geo-blocking. We get it. He’s black.

    • samton909

      Because Trump will probably do the very same things.

  • WTF

    Its no wonder many people either cant or deliberately refuse to
    understand Trump because they have never been involved in negotiations
    at any level over goods or services or they arrogantly believe its
    beneath themselves to negotiate.

    In any negotiations whether building a high tower block or buying an
    item at an open market or a Hong Kong electronic store, each person
    involved in the deal starts off from probably unrealistic price points
    but knows it has to start somewhere and the seller will come down and
    the buyer will raise his offer. I’ve done this at markets and in Hong
    Kong very successfully as a buyer and as a seller in a yard sale and the
    key is setting the correct but unrealistic starting point and meeting
    in the middle. When you meet, you shake, both of you are happy with the
    deal and its a win-win.

  • WTF

    Its no wonder many people either cant or deliberately refuse to understand Trump because they have never been involved in negotiations at any level over goods or services or they arrogantly believe its beneath themselves to negotiate.

    In any negotiations whether building a high tower block or buying an item at an open market or a Hong Kong electronic store, each person involved in the deal starts off from probably unrealistic price points but knows it has to start somewhere and the seller will come down and the buyer will raise his offer. I’ve done this at markets and in Hong Kong very successfully as a buyer and as a seller in a yard sale and the key is setting the correct but unrealistic starting point and meeting in the middle. When you meet, you shake, both of you are happy with the deal and its a win-win.

    The whole purpose is to wrong foot your competitors and in this case its other people running for President. They have no choice but to follow him to a hard line position by which time he’s softened his stance somewhat to wrong foot them yet again. On ALL of his policies whether
    its immigration, building a wall, national security, gun control, obamacare and the economy, he initially taken a hard position to set his stall up and force the ‘competition’ to move in that direction before softening his approach to what many would call acceptable.

    His antagonists within the Republican party and MSM call it flip flopping, they call him a bigot or a racist and all manner of name calling but they aren’t dealing with the usual politician, they are
    being lead by someone who knows the art of the deal. Its a three step process, (1) set up extreme view points as far as progressive liberals are concerned (2) wait whilst the electorate get on board and his opponents are dragged in the same direction, (3) soften his stance and seal the deal.

    Do his opponents in the republican party get it ? No they don’t because they are arrogant sons of b***** who wish to appoint a POTUS much like a UK Prime Minister is appointed rather than let the will of the people decide.

    • Callipygian

      With respect, you misunderstand the GOP and why the Democrat Donald Trump — who likes torture for its own sake and sees nothing wrong with his multiple bankruptcies — how do you bankrupt a CASINO? — to say nothing of his fraudulent ‘Trump University’, which was hogwash from beginning to end and bilked students out of millions.

      Donald Trump is a bad man and he is no Republican.

      VOTE REAL REPUBLICAN 2016!

      • WTF

        With respect I think I understand the elite establishment very well and as a Brit living in the USA, that applies on both sides of the ocean.

        What you are ignoring is that in 2008, when bankers and government colluded to bail themselves out of a hole it was middle Britain and middle America who paid the price with both sides of the political divide being culpable. Whether its the Republicans or Democrats or Labour and the Tories, they are ALL in the pockets of big banks and look after their own. I’m not suggesting that Trump doesn’t have some problems but what we are seeing is a protest vote against the establishment.

        It might have worked in the UK had Nigel Farage of UKIP been a billionaire but the forces of the establishment were too powerful for him but that’s not the case with Trump.

        When individuals go bankrupt and I’m talking normal people not Trump, they are hung out to dry by the system but when banks go bust, those in charge are bailed out, they retain all their privileges and benefits despite being the architects of bankrupting their bank. What should have happened was banks should have been allowed to fail, savers should have been underwritten by the government and the bankers kicked out without ANY pensions, goodbye pay offs etc. Of course none of that happened and that contributes to the feeling that neither established party is looking after the group who pays the most taxes.

        Trump is a manifestation of this revolt however you feel about any issues he may have.

        • Callipygian

          With respect, I know American culture and politics with depth and familiarity lasting a lifetime, and you betray the country in backing this Putin wannabe.

          • WTF

            I can’t vote and I’m just an observer but putting Trump aside, I fail to see how you can support the actions of the elite establishment in either country and I’m hardly a ‘newbie’ to America having been back and forth for decades so I’m not ignorant of what happened here as in the UK.

          • Callipygian

            WTF, you and I are blogging friends of long standing. May I direct you, if you don’t read them already, to National Review Online and to The Weekly Standard (also online).
            All my good wishes to you.

          • WTF

            I’ll try and look later but its off to bed now.

            Thanks

          • Callipygian

            Sure thing: you’ll find a lot of people like you on NRO.

        • samton909

          You don’t know what you are talking about. They paid back all the TARP money. The government stepped in to loan them the money, which they paid back. This was only so that the whole system would not go under.

          • WTF

            And the instigators of all that trouble remained in place !

      • Violin Sonata

        Hello C. I really hope that America doesn’t vote for that barnstorming fool. He is preying on anger and disappointment.
        I am glad that Mitt Romney spoke against Trump, more need to do the same.

        • Callipygian

          Wish they’d spoken sooner!

    • samton909

      Thanks. You make my point. Donald Trump never says a true word. it is all lies. He does not intend to build a wall. He does not intend to change anything. He will screw his supporters who think he is going to do one thing, and in fact he may do just the opposite.

      So, as we suspected, no one can ever trust what Trump has to say on any subject.

      Thank you for making my point.

      • WTF

        And we can trust Hillary Clinton after implying families were lying just to cover up her failures !

      • Terry Field

        He sets expectations; Clinton lies about poor, honest Bernie. She is a bloody lying monster; always quotes him out of context. A rabble-rousing power-mad cow.

  • sidor

    Huckabee has just said in an CNN interview: there is a revolution going on, hopefully by ballots not by bullets.

    • UKSteve

      Huckabee believes man has been on Earth no longer than 6,000 years.

      • sidor

        And the significance is? People believe in a much more funny rubbish. Did you read Dawkins?

        • UKSteve

          It has the exact significance you want it to have.

  • http://thetruthoncommonsense.com/ Cheekos

    When one tries to determine which candidate might be the Establishment’s choice to “Dump Trump!”, keep in mind that, perhaps a month ago, the GOP Elders agreed that even Donald Trump would be a better choice than Senator Ted Cruz.

    Also, living in South Florida, many of us know that Senator Marco Rubio truly is a lightweight, and has been over-reaching his ability to understand, let alone solve problems. By missing many votes in the Senate, he surely has trouble functioning in Washington. So, nothing better could be expected on the World Stage.

    • samton909

      The only reason Rubio was selected was because he was Hispanic. That is the problem with the GOP establishment. They started selecting people solely based on their minority status rather than their abilities.

      • Terry Field

        Yep. Like these mulatto singers – sell to the mulatto emerging world.
        Capitalism!!
        Great!!!!!

  • HomoRationalensis

    This is nothing more than a total revolution against the entire political establishment, the elites that have continually slaughtered the masses for their own gain. The masses, that massive silent majority are now controlling Trump, he’s not controlling them. He’s simply an echo-chamber for the masses against this entire bankrupted neoliberal world order, thus making it the greatest elections in the history of elections, by orders of magnitude. This is pure democracy which means no special interests, no lobbyists, no corporates can get close to Trump. He’s for the silent majority.

    Globalists, neoliberals are about to be decimated off the map. Without Washington there simply is no global neoliberal world order, period. Furthermore, Trump is going to bring back capital, jobs to America on a scale that will leave the neoliberals crushed. This is what they fear the most. Not the whole gassing minorities, building of walls, starting WW3, etc., which is a load of total crap, but the fact he could actually succeed and thus expose this whole systemic fraud on a gargantuan scale. They’ll never be allowed near power again.

    What’s even more incredible and is severely handicapping the entire political establishment, is the fact they’re totally at a loss as to what’s going on. Their arrogance has them dumbfounded. They are completely detached, insulated, protected, blind to the realities of mainstreet and this is their downfall.

    As Peggy Noonan, former Reagan administration speech writer, current Wall Street Journal pundit puts it, “There are the protected and the unprotected. The protected make public policy, the unprotected live in it. The unprotected are starting to push back, powerfully. The protected are the figures in gov’t, politics, business, media, shielded at the unprotected’s expense from all the chaos they’ve caused.”

    Trump is going to become the next President of the United States of America and he means business. All the media, pundits, polls can pretend it’s going to be a close fight. One almighty shock is coming now the silent monster majority has awoken.

    • samton909

      Ha, Ha, Ha.

      Trump is going to magically bring back jobs to America.

      Ha, Ha, Ha.

      If you believe that Trump will do this, just because he says so, Trump has a bridge in Brooklyn that he wants to sell you.

      If it were so easy, it would have been done already.

      • Terry Field

        No. Globalising corporations have zero interest in the life of individuals, and their prostitutional politician handmaidens do not know what day of the week it is.

      • HomoRationalensis

        It’s nothing to do with magic, it’s everything to do with bringing back manufacturing to the US, rebuilding the middle class, where power comes from.

        • Terry Field

          And the decision to do so is made by??? The local soviet????

  • Oscar Martinez

    Open letter to Donald Trump: I never thought that I would spend time dealing with a megalomaniac businessman as you are; someone closer to a banana-republic dictator than to a decent American politician. But since I am a conservative and you are about to destroy the Republican party as we know it I decided to do it. You are an Ur-fascist in the guise of a conservative; so when you quote Mussolini I do take you very seriously. Yet you are not offering your gullible followers any coherent political plan, so here is one. You particularly hate those of us who are Hispanic; even those of us who have European ancestry and, as in my case, are green-eyed (and Caucasian). So I suggest that, as a president, you immediately sign an Executive Order making Homeland Security arrest and deport any individual, regardless of nationality, who has a Spanish last name. The mythical restoration of the old-fashioned WASP society being what you sell as an implied political message, and because African-Americans were here from the beginning, you just could not deport them; but you could make them choose between voluntary resettlement in Liberia and slavery. Sure enough, Barack Obama will try to fight back; but then some of your WASP brown-shirt boys in your name, and prompted by you, will organize a large militia to take on the Secret Service. Then, as a side effect, taking on Jews as well. Most obviously you will have all Muslims deported; but since you do not seem to hate Asian-Americans as much as you hate other ethnic groups I suggest that you resettle them all in Alaska; then signing an Executive Order forbidding them from returning to the 47 states or travelling to Hawaii. Once all of the above is accomplished, the United States of America will again be a WASP-dominated society and your followers will all be happy ever after. Buy that time you will be some sort of a Napoleon Bonaparte, so I suggest that you now buy a bicorne hat to match your disgusting arrogance, by then nothing short of colossal hubris.”

    • samton909

      Oh, grow up.

      • UKSteve

        Do you have anything of equal / greater intelligence to offer?

    • UKSteve

      Probably in the wrong place, Oscar.

  • WTF

    “Millions of American voters have made it clear that they don’t want a
    nice guy — or even a respectable one — in charge. Civility is for losers
    and outmoded establishment politicians.”

    Across the western world the electorate has had their fill of supposed respectability, civility or even humility when in truth they get lying PoS’s once they’re in office. Now they’re willing to try a guy who says it as it is, he may exaggerate a lot BUT if he only delivers 25% of what he promises, it will be 10 times that which previous politicians have delivered.

    • samton909

      Yes, always vote for the guy you KNOW is a total liar and charlatan. It worked in Germany in the 1930’s

      • WTF

        There’s spin, lying by omission and there’s Hillary Clinton. We could discuss her ‘spin’ over cover ups of Bills activities, the ‘spin’ over the Clinton foundation or her claims of innocence over having top secret emails on a home brew email server, thats one thing. Implying that the families of those guys killed in Benghazi are ALL lying about what she said happened is totally unacceptable. Arrogance, Incompetence or mistakes are one thing and can be forgiven or brushed aside, but essentially calling those families liars to cover up her failures is beyond the pale. Trump has never been guilty of this type of lying !

        • UKSteve

          As I was saying earlier…..

          You really are breathtakingly stupid and monumentally ignorant…

          http://www.ibtimes.com/list-donald-trump-lies-10-claims-gop-front-runner-immigration-muslims-kkk-dont-hold-2330265

          • WTF

            At the end of the day what you believe or I believe to be true isn’t worth a hill of beans, its what the people think and how they vote. You can insult them as much as you like but it wont change anything and like kids, they’ll go against you out of spite if you keep up this barrage of insults.

            The democrats minority vote is fragmented especially the black vote after BLM have turned on both Saunders and Clinton. Many young voters clueless about how the real world operates have been enrolled into the ‘entitlement’ franchise of Saunders and think that wealth re-distribution will pay off their debts but never bothered to look at Zimbabwe to see that epic fail.

            The Republicans are behaving like petulant kids not getting their own way over a preferred nominee since Bush has bailed out and Rubio is likely to lose in his home state. What choice is left for them, Cruz or Trump, neither of which they want to endorse.

            The irony is its democracy that has allowed all of this to happen and however much you might name call Trump, Cruz or me, the electorate is calling the shots not the parties and not you. I have a view, you have a view but we don’t call the shots. Suck it up whatever happens in November, you don’t have a choice !

          • Cyril Sneer

            Nice insult d ckhead.

          • UKSteve

            I thought so, b3ll3nd.

            Go and read something (not Batman comics).

      • Thats_news

        And if America gets Hilary Clinton as president, it will have worked in America, too.

      • euphemia

        Go right to Hitler, because there have been no other incidences in history of politicians being liars.

  • Terry Field

    ”America’s sense of Manifest Destiny — the belief that the nation has been divinely appointed to redeem mankind — is always annoying and sometimes destructive. ”
    Nowhere near as irritating as the insane dreamworld of a Greater Britain and the nonsense of Brexit and the fantasy of the ‘Special Relationship.’

    • WTF

      Judging a country by its leaders not its people, that’s your problem isn’t it !

      Anyone who has traveled all over the globe on business and pleasure as I have, can easily see that an image as portrayed in the media or by people like yourself most certainly doesn’t reflect the truth about a country. My American wife and our friends don’t have any sense of American Manifest Destiny as they are just as concerned about paying the bills & making the best of their lives as any honest working / retired tax paying European has.

      Like them, I don’t have any dreams of a Greater Britain but being British or American, we do have a sense belonging our host country and culture whether natural born or immigrant and naturally support it as otherwise, why would we want to live there. That of course doesn’t seem to apply to those who would try and change the culture and send it back 15 centuries.

      As for Brexit & Special Relationship, in my case I of course have a special relationship being British but married to an American but in the usual context, its history that did create something different that has more commonality between the UK & USA than Europe. Twice during the 20th century America has joined our lead with commonwealth countries to help rid the world of German dictators. We may not always see eye to eye but generally were both on the same page of history and certainly the same side for obvious cultural & language reasons.

      I would guess you’re the real ‘Little Englander’ who hasn’t ventured far or met different peoples around the world in labeling everyone according to their nationality. Why is it nonsense to determine your future when everyone with a pair will attempt that rather than drag the ‘security blanket’ of the EU around with them like a child due to their insecurity. If the people of Britain want Brexit, they have every right to vote for it and brave a new world rather than be on the sinking ship of the EU. Explorers did that centuries ago and are still doing that now with space exploration but I guess you lack a pair and are frightened of change !

    • Thats_news

      I would rather a special relationship with the Isle of Man than -for example- France or Germany.

      • Terry Field

        Said like the vicious little bigot that you show yourself to be.

        • FancyLad

          And there it is, the only way the establishment knows how to fight an argument that they’re losing.
          Call them “racist” in hopes of shutting them up.
          Pathetic.

          • Terry Field

            I called you a bigot.
            I did not mention a ‘racist’, but you may be one also.
            You most certainly are a nasty little BIGOT

          • Cyril Sneer

            You’re replying to a different person this time. So quick to blindly scream bigotry you forget who you’re accusing.

          • Terry Field

            If the cap fits, wee on it!!!

          • FancyLad

            Are you kidding? You’re the bigot. You’re just as delusional, hate filled and nasty as any jackbooted fascist or rope wielding Klansman.
            In fact the only difference between you and them, is the level of self-awareness. Deep down inside they knew they were monsters, you on the other hand imagine yourself as some sort of saint, and that’s even scarier.

          • Sargon the bone crusher

            Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

          • CharlesSolomon

            Uuummm FancyLad, Try a Woman for Once, Girly-BOY

        • Cyril Sneer

          Well you’ve certainly managed to change his mind.

          • Terry Field

            You may not be surprise to hear that I don’t much care about his change of mind, or otherwise.
            A woodlouse lives under a stone by my driveway. I do not attempt to reason with him.

  • Bonkim

    The will of the people need not reflect morality or common sense as defined by others.

  • Thats_news

    This is the fault of the Democrats for putting Hilary Clinton up as their candidate. She has more baggage than a mule train. And her association with Bill Clinton is a particularly heavy item of luggage. And as for the intervention of Yoko Ono? That was hardly helpful.

    • Mongo

      Yoko is only famous because of who her husband was.

      just like Hillary

    • HumansNeedToWakeUp

      Sure, blame the Democrats for your failings! Talk about personal responsibility…NOT!!!

  • Terry Field

    The headline to the article is vicious.
    Americans persuaded to vote for Mr Trump are, primarily, frightened. The evacuation of ease and often of hope that globalisation brings to old industrial communities is dreadful; the same has happened in Europe, but the social welfare systems and the reduced expectations there (and in England) reduce the agony.
    The ‘first world’ is no more. The globe now has non national plutocrats, fragile, volatile local middle classes, and in every region – country – vast numbers of poor, desperate, increasingly isolated people. This is the new world that unfolds before our eyes. Politicians who sell the benefits of global free trade sell a false prospectus to countries where only social dislocation, massive inequality, pain and unjustified concentration of wealth can result.
    This is the reality; the headline is part of the sewage most stupid journalists produce.
    And Madame Clinton has nothing at all to say to slow or reverse this horror.

  • http://wrinkledweasel-resurgam.blogspot.co.uk/ wrinkledweasel

    Nasty people for nasty times.

    Donald Trump is a long way down Santa’s “nice” list, but so is the average suicide bomber.

  • Bob Gunter

    I find it very poor commentary from a class of people who have at every turn been stumped by the Trump. Rubio goes, and everyone just votes for Cruz. Then whoopee, normal service is resumed and we can all go back to sleep. Do you have anything at all to say that hasn’t been fed by GOP establishment?

    People are voting for Trump across all demographics, they clearly know something you don’t. Maybe the Spectator could get some cheap foreign journalists in, place you on unemployment, have you lose your home, then you seek help form the state and find all housing is allocated to the most needy people, gimmigrants. Oh and to top it off someone you love is attacked by a person who has just moved here who is a devotee of the most peaceful religion in the world. Then maybe, just maybe, you’d understand. Though I wouldn’t bet on it.

  • abrogard

    Trump isn’t nice or super clever or wise in government etc., etc. and I think the people aren’t stupid enough not to know that.

    They know that. Just how stupid do all the clever bastards think they are?

    No. Trump is just like the people. Except he does know more than they do, is better informed, is closer to the action, does have more power and money, is able to do something…

    The people vote for Trump because he is their voice. They know he’s not a part of the machine, the establishment, the polished, the suave, the very clever, but neither are they… and yet they are what it is all about… and the suave, the clever, the knowledgeable, the capable, they’ve all led America and the people into the wilderness and have demonstrated again and again and again multitudinous evils and shortcomings….

    How do I know this?

    Because I’m one of the people. I’m not even American. I watch America as so many in the world do, needing America to come good to save itself and save us all….

    The smart bastards have been running things disastrously for long enough… time one of us had a go because we can’t make it any the worse, can we?

    Now can we?

    Oh, you so deplore the primitiveness and impossibility of so many ‘policies’ – how could we build a wall, how could we deport millions, etc. etc…

    But that wouldn’t be done in a day. And coming to grips with it would be coming to grips with the problem. It would be Americans facing Americans and engaging in building a joint America – while you smartarse supremos look on…

    What on earth would be worse about the nation engaging in that enterprise than what the nation is engaged upon at the moment?

  • Sean L

    He never said “viciousness is beautiful”, or any such thing. Any worthwhile accomplishment requiring struggle, in business, sport, politics is bound to be “vicious” in some degree, but also “beautiful” when the struggle bears fruit: the joy of scoring a goal, winning a deal, the elation of standing before a cheering crowd, which is surely what he meant and how his words will be interpreted by everyone outside the media. A commonplace really. As to Elton John or popular opera, Bill Clinton played Fleetwood Mac: is that “daft”, too? What music should they play that isn’t? Garbage article mate. An insult to the readers’ intelligence.

  • geoff

    Re F Gray’s article “Land of the Donald”: i liked it, but for a few assumptions: 1/ “America has always tried to do the right thing.” Call me cynical, but that line to end a paragraph made me nauseous. 2/ “Like all political careers, Obama’s has ended in failure.” Again to end a paragraph, so glaringly categorically expressed and turned my stomach again, this time for its cynicism. Otherwise, as i say, i liked the article.

  • BetterFailling

    The way I see this ‘Trump’ is just another expression of activism gone awry.

    https://nicichiarasa.wordpress.com/2016/03/07/conservative-activism/

  • Paul

    In the face of having incompetent self severing delusional leadership ( ie establishment leaders ) vs simple common sense ( even if short sighted ) leadership most will choose the latter.

    • Terry Field

      There is nothing common sense about the monster Clinton

      • HumansNeedToWakeUp

        Clinton is better than Trump!

        • Sargon the bone crusher

          No. She is just what you are used to – a Big-State, buy the votes of the blacks and hispanics, (Notice Bernie offered equality before the Law to Blacks – did not turn them on, did it?) Muslim-Brotherhood-loving smoothie from the dead ranks of the illiberal Liberals that grow like weeds out of the Rust Belt.
          That is all; Oh I forgot, she is also bought and paid for.
          Must make you feel comfortable.
          More of the same.

          • Kevin Swizzelistic Papa

            Nah. Not true at all! Liberals are liberal in monetary ways and many in social ways too, but the reason you feel they are taking away your rights is they are following Christian moral codes of behavior. They are liberal in monetary ways, too, because of social services and the like. Stop blaming liberals for everything and take some responsibility. We need government because people mess things up! Government keeps crazy Trump supporters from acquiring bombs to bomb all liberals and other Republicans, conservatives and the like!

  • Sue Smith

    There are lots of staunch ‘progressives’ who still think Obama has done just great; ringing up the mothers of American to thank them for being mothers on Mother’s Day, appearing on “Ellen”, entertaining 100y/o for their birthday, riding around in a sportscar owned by some movie star. On and on it goes. Some people love to be patronized, while others of us are exactly the opposite.

    Many Americans just like the idea of a black man sitting in the White House doing nothing – because it keeps the GOPs at bay and they want SMALLER government. The rusted on Obama-lovers would like to see him stuffed and parked inside the White House as a permanent museum feature. Oh, wait, isn’t that what he’s doing now..??!

    • Terry Field

      Progressives are corrupt socialists who buy the votes of the undeserving, ill-educated, slobocracy at the bottom of the achievement barrel.
      Like Madame Clinton and her implicit promise to direct resources to the unemployed blacks, white and hispanics.
      She is worse than Brown in the UK. And that is saying something.

  • Sue Smith

    If it’s all about The Donald – where are Mickey, Daffy Duck, Wylie J. Coyote and Foghorn Leghorn?

    • CharlesSolomon

      Uuummm Sue???? Had A Man Lately???????takes off the edge.

      • Sue Smith

        You’re obviously part of the problem!! LOL

  • Terence Hale

    In all deliberations I think Mr. Trump is a smart guy and in my passed comments to contrary he could run America.

    • HumansNeedToWakeUp

      and he could ruin it and ruin the world as well! Donald Hitler Trump that is!

  • mypersonalopinion

    This is an overly simplistic and largely ignorant hit-piece. Yes, he promises a muscular America again, but to compare Trump to Hitler is to diminish the suffering and murder of millions of innocent people. When your idiotic surrender to multiculturalism and Islamism has reduced your nation and Europe to civil war, no doubt you will come begging again for our assistance. You’ll be glad for a strong America then, if you’re still alive.

    • Terry Field

      Indeed, every hack leftie euro-journalist pipes u with a ‘hitler’ comparison. Lazy third rate people seem to populate the ranks of the journalists.
      A more muscular US that charges the rest of the world for the cost of its protection is just, particularly since socialist, feminised, US loathing Europe has consistently refused to maintain credible military. Why? Socialist rot of drive and self belief.Good for the US and Trump.
      European love of Islam is their problem, their catastrophe, their end.
      Tough.

      • mypersonalopinion

        Wish more folks saw it this way. The girly-men of the West are too effeminate to defend themselves and they will pay a dear price in the loss of all the freedoms we’ve won.

        • Sargon the bone crusher

          I am British, but I love America – I want it to be what it should be.

    • CharlesSolomon

      WELL SAID. Dried Up Man Hating Feminists are really sad.

  • annefarrelly

    What crap!

  • StarTripper

    Best explanation I saw for Trump’s popularity is that the grassroots Republican activists have played by the rules in the elections since 2008. When they started having success, the Establishment in Washington saw a threat to their comfortable life and began sabotaging these upstarts. How dare they take out the House Majority Leader Eric Cantor? Betrayed by the elites these angry people were looking for a weapon in 2016 and they found it in Donald Trump. Trump is a club to beat the crap out of the Establishment. I believe some of this anger at Washington is what supports Sanders, too.

  • godot

    Stick with what you know Freddy. Taking shots at Trump from across the pond just shows your ignorance of events in the USA.

  • ~m~

    Divide et impera, caveat emptor.

  • hogsnort

    Freddy, keep smoking your pipe. America is only benevolent if they like your politics. Just look at the Middle East. Peace and happiness abounds innit? Heysus!

  • CharlesSolomon

    Gosh!!!!! America Needs A Tough Guy with Real Balls, Like The Donald to help US. The barRAT

    obomination IS A VILLAIN and is laughing AT America. Americans do NOT want the muSLIME iNVASION OF Europe. American Women, Who do NOT like The Donald Are Coming Over In Armies To Vote FOR HIM Because, Unlike the hiLIARy, President Trump WILL Protect The Ladies. HiLIARy Will hand OUR Women over to muSLIME rapist gangs to do with as they wish with impunity That’s IF the hiLIARy muSLIMES can get past Armed American Men who will certainly protect Our Women. SlimeBag cops or no cops who are an army to protect THE RAT obomination. Think it would ever come to this?????

  • CharlesSolomon

    IT IS a strong possibility The DONALD will be Elected Prez by the Largest LandSlide Election in American History…Like The Donald’s 185Million to hiLIARy’s 35Million.

  • CharlesSolomon

    NO MORE IMMIGRANTS PERIOD. America IS Full-Up..NO VACANCY. The
    politicians and their badged THUGS, the cops, want more; The cops More
    brutality& money, the politicians, more votes to keep those $200,000
    Per Year CUSHY DoNothing Jobs as They Flood in more “immigrants” to
    further strain the housing, food, fuel , shelter, medical services to
    the 3rd world shiiiit point. They, the politicians, Give Your Hard
    Earned Futures away to the invading HYPERBREEDING hordes who are turning
    America into the Anarchic, Filthy wornOut ShittttHoles, they Created
    and abandoned. “MultiCulturism” You Say senator BloJob???? YOU really
    Mean Inserting The Scum Of the third world into Beautiful America FOR
    THEIR VOTES AND A FREE RIDE for You WORTHLESS Criminal Stooge
    Politiicians. Look at our population, in just 8 short bari obama years
    it went from 210Milliom to 330Million. The 3rd world Invading muslim Et
    Al hordes pop babies out like there is No tomorrow, and Soon there won’t
    be. Genuine Americans will be living in filthy crime ridden shittt hole
    areas with the poltiicans AND THE COPS living in gated community
    wealth.

    The Answer?..Let’s see what The Donald Can Do?? IF The
    Donald IS as Good “As Advertised” And he Starts Turning America
    Around,Then WE Americans MUST consider appointing him as America’s first
    Benign Dictator…Gosh!! WE ALREADY HAVE a MALIGNANT dictator, bari
    obama, in the WoodPile/WhiteHouse NOW,and Just Look at the terrible
    damage tyrant bari has done to America and the World.
    Think about it. IT IS OUR and Our Children’s futures

    • lori thibault

      in 2008 the population of the US was 304.1 million.

  • fredy gump

    Hello, the rest of the world, especially the UK, Europe…. I am sorry about the trump. If he gets elected, will you let me emmigrate back? Generations ago my ancestors left you for America, but as you can see, things haven’t been going so well over here lately.

  • Carolyn Webb

    There are frightening similarities between Trump and those who support him and the people who ruled Germany in 1933-1945 and those who supported them.

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