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How Britain deports the wrong people – and only the wrong people

We can’t get rid of jihadis, sex gang ringleaders and drug lords – so we try to deport old ladies like Myrtle Cothill

12 March 2016

9:00 AM

12 March 2016

9:00 AM

For once it seemed that we were getting tough. Our patience had apparently snapped. We had been worn down by the constant news stories about foreigners whom the UK government was unable to deport — the child rapists, the fraudsters, the thieves, the gangsters, the jihadis who want us all dead, and just your plain old common-or-garden illegal residents. It always seemed that the more vile and murderous the individual and the more misery he or she intended to wreak upon the rest of us, the more likely they were to be given leave to stay here by some idiotic judge. But Myrtle Cothill was a bridge too far. When the Home Office read the case of Cothill they knew something had to be done, sharpish. So for once they acted with ruthless rapidity and decisiveness: Cothill was told, in no uncertain terms, that she must get on a plane within four days — the Home Office stipulated a Tuesday morning — and return from whence she came. Get out and stay out.

Myrtle is a white South African widow aged 92 who wished to see out her final days with her daughter in the UK. Ha — tough luck, Myrtle, pull the other one, you devious cow. We know your kind. The Home Office even prepared to send an official along to Heathrow with Cothill — presumably in case she turned nasty or tried to do a runner.

She had committed no crime other than to overstay the period stipulated on her visa — and in doing that, she performed for us a considerable service, which we will come to.

Myrtle has now been told (a little grudgingly) by the Home Office that she can die here if that’s what she really wants. This volte-face is a consequence of the furore and astonishment that was whipped up when her case came to light — a petition with 150,000 names on it demanded she should be allowed to remain here. And so her story has a happy ending. But it also proved a very valuable point. Myrtle is just about the only person the Home Office is capable of deporting. In order to be deported from the UK, the alien must be possessed of the following characteristics. They must be white. They must come from a comparatively pleasant country. They must have a valid passport. They should pose no threat whatsoever to the rest of us. They should have committed no crime. Any illegal resident who manages to tick all of those boxes had better start packing a suitcase. The rest of them — the murderers, rapists, head-chopping maniacs et al — well, they can stay. As long as they like. Despite all Theresa May’s promises, she’s barely changed the number of foreign criminals we deport. It was 5,500 back in 2009 and the latest figure is 5,600.

The Home Office minister Richard Harrington has recently admitted that there are more than 30,000 known (an important qualifier) bogus asylum seekers who cannot be deported because he doesn’t know where to send them. They won’t tell him where they’ve come from, no matter how pleasantly he broaches his enquiries. And they’ve all burned their passports. So under the Dublin Convention none of them can be kicked out, and in any case Mr Harrington hasn’t got a clue what country they should be deported to. The number of bogus asylum seekers we manage to get rid of has halved over the past five years.

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But that’s just the arrivals who have as yet committed no crime other than to come here illegally. Once they’ve committed a crime, and preferably a very serious crime, it doesn’t matter how much money the taxpayer spends on the merry-go-rounds of the immigration courts, they ain’t going nowhere.

Take the case of a chap called Baghdad Meziane. Baghdad is a convicted al-Qaeda terrorist, with links to the maniacs who blew up Paris quite recently. He was convicted in a British court of raising money for al-Qaeda (and also of the ubiquitous credit-card fraud) and sentenced to 11 years in prison. At his trial the judge pointed out, perhaps unnecessarily, that Meziane was a very dangerous man and recommended deportation once his term of incarceration had expired. Fat chance, m’lud. Meziane was actually released from prison five years early — and allowed to resume a useful and productive life in his adopted home town of Leicester, rather than put on the first available plane to Algiers (from whence, despite that cunning forename, he originates). Baghdad argued that to deport him would contravene his human right to a normal family life. And so despite lengthy legally battles, Leicester is where he will remain.

Or there’s J1. That’s not his name, of course. We haven’t been told his name because that would breach his privacy, heaven forfend. J1 is a known friend and colleague of one Mohammed Emwazi, usually referred to by his stage name of Jihadi John, the Islamic State’s late and most revered head-chopping lunatic. J1 is known to be a senior organiser for Somalia’s exciting Islamic terror franchise, al-Shabab, and has links to the Muslim extremists who tried to blow up London on 21 July 2005. For five years we tried to kick him out, but we have now given up and he is not even under surveillance any more. Hell, there are so many of these murderous maniacs running around, how on earth can one keep tabs on all of them?

Or how about CS — yes, it’s that privacy thing again. But at least we know that CS is a Moroccan woman and the daughter-in-law of the hook-handed madman Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri, now serving a life sentence in the USA for terrorism-related offences. It’s the European Courts of Justice blocking her deportation, because she is the sole carer of her son in this country (yep, and you are of course the sole breadwinner for the both of them, incidentally). She was found smuggling a sim card into Hamza’s Belmarsh cell. Can’t get rid of her.

Tired of the jihadis? There’s always the child rapists. Shabir Ahmed, aged 63, is serving a 22-year sentence for having been the ringleader of a gang of Pakistani paedophiles in Rochdale. Ahmed is petitioning the European Court of Human Rights to prevent his deportation. He claims that his trial was ‘institutionally racist’ because 11 of the jury members were white (i.e., roughly proportionate to the UK population as a whole). The Home Office may fight, but I suspect Shabir will be staying with us.

We can’t even get rid of the -criminals who actively want to leave. Mohammed Faisal is a convicted ‘drug lord’ who is reportedly ‘desperate’ to get back to Pakistan. But we’ve messed up his papers, so he’s staying put.

And what of the Yardies? The Jamaican crims, blud. We couldn’t send them to serve their sentences in Jamaica because the prisons are so bad it would breach their human rights. So in desperation we’re spending £25 million on building them a nice prison there, maybe with views over Montego Bay.

There is a plethora of national and supra-national legislation protecting the rights of the foreign criminal: the Human Rights Act, the Dublin Convention, the -European Court of Human Rights, the European Courts of Justice. But none protecting the rest of us.

And yet the problem is largely of our own making, much though we may blame ‘Brussels’, the catch-all scapegoat for this ludicrous charade. Between 2001 and 2010 we deported nine jihadis from the UK. During the same period the French deported 129. They act first and ask questions later, without giving the villains a chance of appeal. But we’re British and do things by the book — as Myrtle Cothill discovered.

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  • Mow_the_Grass

    Truly diabolical – easy pickings.
    Old ‘white’ woman.

    • Hybird

      She should have claimed asylum. Whites in South Africa are being murdered at an alarming rate. As an asylum seeker she would be given free furnished accommodation, free meals, free TV (free licence, of course), someone to clean the place and free health care…and £30 a week pocket money.

      • Sue Smith

        I’ll come and do it!! Woops; wrong colour and religion.

      • Mow_the_Grass

        Don’t actually think they care.

  • Rik

    The worst of it all Rod is that it is our home grown judges and their buddies the vulture human rights lawyers who are the heart of this problem.The change in the way judges are appointed where lawyers are allowed to apply for judgeships in areas they “have a special interest” in eg immigration has allowed the leftard liberal lawyers to infest the bench to pursue their own agendas and distort the vlawand defy parliament.The march of the left through our institutions continues apace.

    • RingedPlover

      They will of coure reap the whirlwind when it must surely come. As it is coming.

      • steddyneddy

        Well they better hurry! Because soon there won’t be enough of us native English left who are able to create whirlwinds.

        • RingedPlover

          It is not the native English who will create the whirlwind. We are the ones it will finally destroy!

    • Sue Smith

      Really, they’re no different to very aggressive and militant trades unionists.

    • rationality

      Our judiciary is completely corrupt by people who do not reflect British justice so they will usually apply the law differently to British people and criminals elsewhere. These people get in all the top positions (media, government, the Church and the arts) and have their own agenda.

    • Hermine Funkington-Rumpelstilz

      When judges (our own) are found defying Parliament (our own), then it is perhaps because they can?
      Hardly Kim Jong Un style peoples’ republicanism playing out there IMHO.

    • M P Jones

      Oh, well, if we can’t deport the scum at least we do have the gallows – oh, wait, they haven’t been maintained since the 1950s…

  • Richard Young

    We should utilise the Falklands to house these people .There they would be safe and more importantly,so would we.A little return on the billions we spend there would give us a win win.

    • KingEric

      What a nice idea. Isolated on a wet and windswept bogland sounds just about right for them.

      • Leonidas

        Or Rockall, standing room only and if you fall off, keeps the numbers down

      • Sue Smith

        Perhaps they could raise the General Belgrano and get them to scrub the decks.

    • William Matthews

      …but what have the people of the Falklands done to deserve this? Scotland on the other hand…

  • William Matthews

    I knew a Chinese girl (from Beijing) who was a genuinely talented C++ programmer. She studied here, her parents had paid a fortune for her to do so. She liked Britain, she wanted to work here, pay tax here. She had a British boyfriend. Two small British companies were clamoring for her to work here. She had willingly and happily integrated into British society. Anyway, she was Denied. Get out. Sent packing, at her own expense.

    The small Japanese, Korean and American communities too are littered with similar stories. These aren’t benefit scroungers, these are typically nice, pleasant, middle-class people, with Degree’s in useful subjects, who want the kind of jobs nice, pleasant, middle-class people want, have asked the British state for nothing, expect nothing from it, wouldn’t say “boo” to a goose, pay their own way and only want to live here, because God forbid, they like it here.

    The real minorities in this country are not supported or represented because they’re not a threat or a useful political football.

    • #toryscum

      ah, there’s your problem. They’d have let her in if she knew Scala

      • William Matthews

        Clearly, you seen how much Scala programmers get?

        • #toryscum

          £1k a day isn’t unusual. It also has the benefit of being so niche that your business sponsors don’t understand what you’re doing, giving you almost total autonomy!
          ‘Give me big data! I don’t understand what it really is or how we begin to take advantage of it, but I WANT BIG DATA NOW!’

    • Shazza

      Ah…. but then you see, most of them do not belong to a certain peaceful ideology, if they did they would have no problem in staying.

      • William Matthews

        The other mistake they made, was to have a legitimate passport, and to have properly filled out the forms required of them. They tried to legally migrate into Britain, the fools.

      • Maureen Fisher

        Swedish women in a small Swedish town are being told to stay in at night to avoid being assaulted by ROPers. I wonder how much longer the peaceful indigenous population will put up with this cr@p.

        • Shazza

          They will put up with it until it is too late. You are witnessing a combination of Stockholm Syndrome, white ‘guilt’, cultural marxist indoctrination, carefully edited MSM reports and apathy. It is not just happening in Sweden.

    • Mongo

      if she had had kids she may have stood a better chanceof staying. They hate deporting children – bad PR

    • mohdanga

      Much better to bring in illiterate, non-contributing, violent immigrants. It’s enriching in a cultural vibrancy sort of way….

      • William Matthews

        Plus, they vote Labour. Our saviours.

  • Blindsideflanker

    Today we hear that the Government has allowed 6,000 foreign criminals to stay here , apparently they are letting them stay hear at the rate of 5 a day.

    • Sue Smith

      I think you had a few zeros missing from that figure!

  • David Prentice

    Ah, yes, the Aussies, Kiwis and the Saffas. Well educated, strong cultural ties, English speaking. All of them gave blood and treasure in the world wars to fight at England’s side – none of them can legally settle here without a British parent or grandparent. Funny old world.

    • Sue Smith

      Not funny so much as immoral and perverse.

      • rationality

        More hateful and evidence of the intention of white genocide then immoral and perverse.

    • Brian Jones

      Have you ever considered how difficult it is for a Brit to settle in these countries? We have to jump through hoops.

      • David Prentice

        Let’s take New Zealand. No country lost more soldiers/pilots per capita in WW2. They deserved better than the stab in the back of the EEC in the 1970s and the tightening of visa and residency conditions. They can work here for a couple of years and then they have to go back, while the populations of the near-criminal states of Romania and Bulgaria enjoy open access to the UK. That doesn’t make sense to me.

  • Mary Ann

    We don’t of course hear about the deportees whom the media doesn’t consider newsworthy.

    • polidorisghost

      Well we wouldn’t would we.
      You have a habit, Mary, of virtue signalling without a target.

      • James Chilton

        Spot on.

    • vieuxceps2

      Any news of deportees would be welcome. Are there any non-whites?

  • Davedeparis

    It is refreshing to see a British person notice the sort of immigration problems we from the old Dominions face in the UK. Whilst other queues fly past immigration ours inches along at a glacial pace and the very first words out of the mouths of the passport official are always, “When are you going to leave?” Apparently as part of the price for entering the EU the French insisted that the UK cut its ties with the Commonwealth. France of course kept its special relationship with North Africa and as a great man once said, “That turned out nicely didn’t it?”

  • Teacher

    Myrtle should have ripped up her passport, clearly.

  • putin

    The very least I expect in return for my taxes (privately earned from foreign sources) is personal safety. If a country can’t offer me that (or the right to protect myself) then I will find one that will and happily pay them my taxes instead.

    • #toryscum

      Do you live in the UK? I’d be interested to hear more about why you don’t feel personal safety?

  • Roger Hudson

    A very clear article showing this country is rapidly on it’s way to total destruction, unless the majority ( yes, ignore pockets of immigrants and look at the vast ‘white’ mass) tell their representatives to change. People power can improve things.

    • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

      Nonsense. ‘The People’ have been against mass migration from the start. When did the politicians and the media listen to that?

      • vieuxceps2

        Right. What infuriates me is that some of us have been despised and reviled as racist monsters for years for pointing out the obvious outcome of immigration. Seems the great unwashed are finally awake and scratching. About time.

    • vieuxceps2

      Apathy rules. I guess.

  • Whiteflighter

    I suppose we are not allowed to mention this nowadays but the people selected for deportation such as Myrtle are actually from good old indigenous British stock. I wonder from where, in these times when ‘celebrating diversity’ is more or less compulsory, the people at the Home Office empowered to make these decisions themselves originated?

    • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

      Funny thing is, when you look into the origins of our inward migrants, you will find that a comparatively small percentage are from the EU. I think it is less than half. How are the others getting in? Family reunion? If the latter, most of it is stranger marriage practised by South Asians.

    • red2black

      Mrs Myrtle is a native South African. Deception was used to get her into England, and steps were taken to try and ensure it would be near-impossible to deport her. It seems the Judge was acting according to the letter of the law.

      • camjan2

        She was born in what was a British colony. Her farther was a British soldier in the first world war. Her brother fought in the 2nd world war again for the UK.

        • Sue Smith

          She’s the wrong colour, nationality and religion. I’d be screaming “racism” and “discrimination” at the top of my voice if I were advocating for this woman. TWO CAN PLAY THAT GAME.

        • red2black

          I’m aware of that. As I said, it seems the Judge was acting according to the letter of the law.

      • Sue Smith

        LOL

        • red2black

          I’ve failed to see the funny side of what’s happened to Mrs Myrtle. It seems the Judiciary has acted without compassion and humanity.

      • Damaris Tighe

        Just as deception has been used to get people from MENA into England. But as Rod says, they destroy their passports, won’t confirm where they’re from, and/or their home countries are considered by human rights law to be unfit for deportation.

        Which leaves old women like Myrtle to be the fodder for the FO to demonstrate how serious it is about deportation.

        • red2black

          I agree with you.

      • Freddythreepwood

        She is a native South African of British stock. People who fought for Britain in two world wars. She should be free to come and go as often as she wants. We are treating our own family as outcasts and it is absolutely disgraceful. May has been a massive disappointment. Our parliament is a useless waste of space.

        • red2black

          I agree with you, along with other people who’ve replied. The Judge seems to have been working to the letter of the law. How else could such a situation have arisen?

  • jeffersonian

    Our judges, kowtowing to overseas courts, have become our enemies.

    • styants64

      The whole of the ruling class are our enemies top of the pile Cameron.

    • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

      I’m not sure when there was a time that judges were not the common man’s enemy. Can you point out when they weren’t?

      • red2black

        Nuremberg.

        • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

          You think so? While some of its verdicts were unexpected and probably correct, it dealt out ‘victor’s justice’ in other cases. I was never very sure why Admiral Donitz got ten years. He was a naval officer, carrying out government policy. We gave medals to people who did far worse than he did.

          • red2black

            I do. The only other way of dealing with them at the time was Stalin’s preference – kill them all.
            You’re right about ‘victor’s justice’. Imagine what that would have been like if Hitler had won.

          • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

            Of course you are right had the boot been on the other foot, or should I say the jack boot…. I gave the example of Donitz. I don’t believe he did anything wrong as Grand Admiral of the Kriegsmarine. So he ran the U boats and they sank ships and cost us dearly. We bombed German cities to dust and killed probably millions of civilians, but the bomber crews were rightly lauded for their heroism. Donitz was a good navy man who sank enemy shipping. He got ten years in jail I think.

          • red2black

            I don’t know enough about Grand Admiral Dönitz to comment.

    • Sue Smith

      Time to adopt the American system; judges should be ELECTED and ACCOUNTABLE.

  • http://Firebird.com JunkkMale

    There are also those who are ushered in across a blood-red carpet due to various ‘rights’, versus those kept out, often due to members of the first group threatening mayhem if they are allowed even to speak.

    Ethelred for Home Secretary!

  • willybach

    Although Mrs Cothill has been granted leave to remain in the UK it is without recourse to public funds. So she must presumably pay for any medical treatment, no benefits etc. Does this apply to all illegal immigrants – I don’t think so!

    • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

      Without recourse t public funds? Good luck with that when she turns up at hospital after a 999 call. No one will ask whether she has rights to be looked after (not that I’d like her not to be). We loose billions every year looking after people with no right to NHS cover.

      • davidshort10

        All people are entitled to emergency care and quite right too.

        • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

          Maybe you are unaware of the tens of thousands of health tourists who sail unchallenged into our hospitals and then having had treatment including surgery and then sail off again back to wherever they came from counting the thousands of pounds they have saved and planning what to spend it on.

          Personally, I think that is an appalling abuse of our NHS resources. Emergency treatment should be given, but should be charged for.

  • Hybird

    And then Rod, there are people like Robert Spencer who is banned from entering the UK because he dares to tell the truth about lslam. Meanwhile we allow hundreds of thousands in each year whose role model (who must not be criticised or mocked) is a 7th Century version of Charles Manson. Hell’s-bells, we even have one who looks likely to become mayor of our capital city!

    • Sue Smith

      Won’t be long now, ladies and gentlemen.

    • Bad Lad

      The Trojan Horse might well win and will be cheered to the rafters by our Vichy state when he does so.

    • vieuxceps2

      “Our” capital city? Circumspice.

      • Hybird

        Sorry, I only remember Sporty, Baby, Posh, Ginger and Scary.

    • Dr. Heath

      Spencer’s video clips are gems. At least the UK’s scumbag government cannot stop its citizens from watching these.

      • Shazza

        Not yet.

      • Hybird

        My favourite was his debate with the imam on the BBC London’s Asian radio programme. Spencer ran rings around the imam – who when asked by the presenter why Spencer appeared to know more about the Koran than he did – replied “Well, this is his field.”

    • Control Freak

      “a 7th Century version of Charles Manson” – brilliant.

      • Hybird

        Thanks. I first made the connection when reading about Mohammad sending his assassins to kill the poetess Asma bint Marwan. The way they crept into her house and stabbed her to death as she slept so reminded me of Manson’s “creepy-crawly” murders.

  • amicus

    Rod Liddle for Home Secretary. (Just as long as he can continue to write for the Spectator).

    • rationality

      He is the new George Orwell. Worked at the BBC. Saw what it was about. Former lefty. He knows EXACTLY what is going on similar to Orwell.

  • Dr. Heath

    I will certainly be breathing a lot easier when I know this monster has left the UK and is back in South Africa. I just hope our security forces can cope with the challenge and there’s not an unseemly fracas with Mrs Cothill headbutting some of our SAS lads.

  • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

    Absolutely nauseating isn’t it, but in this area, like so many others we ‘gold plate’ EU rules and laws and take their provisions to the extreme of fastidiousness. As Liddle says, the French have a different way of doing things. Take the right one has as an Englishman to operate your profession throughout the EU….. Try that as a ski instructor in France and they will put you behind bars. For years we have challenged the French on this one, but last year, seven British ski instructors were arrested and one of them was fined €30,000 or 200 days in jail.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ski/news/British-ski-instructor-sentenced-to-prison-or-a-30000-fine/

    • red2black

      Around fifteen years ago I was on a skiing holiday in France and a guy in the chalet was preparing to become the first Englishman to be accepted into the Ecole du Ski Francais (ESF). He told us he had to sit the required exams in French, and his knowledge of things like geology, geography, first aid, flora and fauna, wildlife, meteorology, etc. had to be extensive in order to stand a chance of being accepted. There are other ski schools, which I think are local, such as the one in La Rosiere, but (as far as I know) they are all former ESF staffed. From an ESF point of view, it must seem like my local League One football team turning up for a kick-about on the Nou Camp pitch without even asking for permission.

      • http://rantingoldgit.blogspot.co.uk/ Arthur Sparknottle

        One word – protectionism.

        It is completely illegal, but the do it all the same. We on the other hand follow every last dot in the rules and punish any breaches severely – like the fining of market traders who have scales in imperial measures and dare to sell an old wife a pound of bananas.

        • red2black

          “Straight or bent, Madam?” (tee hee)

  • Boleslaw Bierut

    I wonder how much Don Flynn gets for his “job”. I remember pay discussion of a chairperson to be in Swedish AI. It ended up with pay exceeding 1 million skr and that some 20 years ago. Not bad for an idealistic dogoodnik!

  • Polly Radical

    Another brave article from Rod Liddle.

    • milford

      Agreed but what worries me is that we think of journalists who dare talk the truth ‘Brave’. The freedom of speech we used to take for granted has been totally eroded by Political Correctness. Another EU construct.

      • vieuxceps2

        PC- American I think.

      • Icebow

        ‘Political correctness’ should always be in quotes, or we imply that it is actually correct.

        • MikeF

          Well it is always political.

          • Icebow

            But not necessarily correct. I regard Rod Liddle, Nigel Farage, and Tommy Robinson as politically correct. I regard Jeremy Corbyn, Polly Toynbee, and Owen Jones as politically incorrect. Hence the need for quotes, out of this context, in the latter cases.

          • MikeF

            The ‘correctness’ part of ‘political correctness’ is, of course, little short of pure Marxism – the notion that you can somehow deduce from abstract principle a course of action that is the practical implementation of moral perfection. Once you do that then all opposing ideas are, of necessity, not only practically mistaken but morally wrong and deserving of nothing but suppression. It is the first step on the road to totalitarianism though what it tends to produce in the first instance is just a rather unpleasant mix of conceit and complacency interspersed with outbursts of rage and spite on the part of its proponents.

  • Frank

    Excellent but don’t expect Mrs May, our judges, our MPs, or civil servants to take the blindest piece of notice. There may of course come a time when the public force our establishment to take action.

    • MikeF

      Yes – we can start this June.

    • Sue Smith

      I suspect they are being overwhelmingly dictated to by the EU and the UN!!! Authoritarianism on steroids.

      • Frank

        Yes, but France seems to be able to ignore all these “authorities” whenever she wants, why are our lot such utter wimps?
        I am quite certain no-one in the EU or the UN gave Macedonia / Hungary / etc permission to build fences along their borders, but they just went ahead and did it. Britain would be ordering civil servants to be standing there with hot tea and benefit claim forms.

        • Sue Smith

          I absolutely hear you. But some nations have lefty activists who force government to do the things you describe. Foolishness isn’t the prerogative of only certain government; it takes a special kind of stupid activists and lefties to force them into it. In short, with the British history of trades union activism you’re more likely to see other kinds of activism.

          This is only my opinion based on years of observation!

        • Ahobz

          The point is the British conception of the rule of law. In France as far as I can tell Louis XV1’s epigram “L’Estate, C’est moi” still applies, though now the state is the state. Here everything is based on individualism and particulary the rationale of ‘uman rights to protect individuals from the state. Wher (as in immigratin cases) it is a case of state v individual (however nefarious), the state does not get adequate recognition as the guarantor of the rights of the rest of us. If that could be squred up so that judges had to balance the harm caused to the nefarious individual agianst the harm caused to the rest of us by such individual remaining, then we might get somewhere.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Maybe not so much an emphasis on the state, but a higher awareness of social capital.

          • Icebow

            “L’Etat, c’est moi.” It rhymes.

    • vieuxceps2

      Speed the day.

  • Hippograd

    Too true, Rod. But there are some articulate voices arguing for an end to

    And yet the problem is largely of our own making…

    Sad but true, Rod. If only we’d listened to those with some experience of being under siege in the Middle East by members of the vibrant community:

    “Let’s Not Be Fooled by Pro-Refugee Propaganda, People!” was set up and is managed by The Jewish Council for Racial Realism (JCORR) and West London Synagogue of British Jews.

    It is supported across the community by all of the following organisations:

    AJR Alyth Gardens Synagogue Board of Deputies BODSA – Board of Deputies Social Action Group Finchley Progressive Synagogue JLC Jewish Volunteering Network JW3 League of Jewish Women The Liberal Jewish Synagogue Liberal Judaism Masorti Judaism Mitzvah Day New North London Synagogue Movement for Reform Judaism Northwood and Pinner Liberal Synagogue Office of the Chief Rabbi Pears Foundation Rabbinic Conference of Liberal Judaism Rabbinical Council of the United Synagogue Rene Cassin Tzelem United Synagogue World Jewish Relief

    Let’s Not Be Fooled by Pro-Refugee Propaganda, People!

    • Damaris Tighe

      A list of people in the counter-jihad and counter-mass migration movements. Some have been doing this long before many of us caught on:

      Bat Ye’or
      Andrew Bostom
      Daniel Greenfield
      Daniel Pipes
      David Horowitz
      David Litman
      David Yerushalmi
      Avi Lipkin
      Diana West
      Melanie Philips
      Ezra Levant
      Denis Prager
      Eric Zamour
      Henryk Broder
      Imre Kertesz
      Michael Savage
      Mordechai Kedar
      Zvi Yehezkeli
      Michael Medved
      Michael Levin
      Bill Handel
      Jamie Glazov
      Lorrie Goldstein
      Elliot Friedland
      Judith Bergman

      • James Chilton

        This is the truth, but you won’t be thanked for it.

        • Damaris Tighe

          I know James.

      • vieuxceps2

        I am not jewish but I am glad to think that someone somewhere is opposing this madness of inviting enemies totake over our England. More power to their elbow!

        • Damaris Tighe

          Ezra Levant of Rebel Media has just put up a series of videos from his trip to Europe. They range from interviews with migrants to interviews with people working against islamisation. His conclusion is depressing – he says that N Americans should come & see Europe’s cathedrals quickly, before they become mosques like the former Hagia Sophia in what is now Istanbul, formerly Constantinople, the capital of eastern Christianity.

          • CRSM

            I’d rather call it Byzantium. Constantine may have had a British mother, but he shamelessly latched on to anything that he thought would advance his career. A bit like D’Israeli, Blair and Cameron.

          • Damaris Tighe

            I like the sound of ‘Byzantium’ more than ‘Constantinople’. Something rather exotic & romantic about the name.

      • tracery

        Let’s have Melanie Philips back on the Spectator team. She is one of the few female columnists who has, been talking sense for many years. I used to read and agree with most of her comments when she wrote for the “Sunday Times”.

        • Damaris Tighe

          Absolutely.

      • Icebow

        Not forgetting, of course, Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, so disgracefully banned by May.

      • Penny

        Hippograd and others posting this type of thing appear to me to be so focused on Jews/Israel that they completely overlook their own house (so to speak).I don’t think that it’s deliberate – it’s a kind of mote-and-beam thing. They don’t see the same problem in their house because they are far, far too busy obsessing about someone else’s.

        • Damaris Tighe

          I’m tempted to ask Hippograd for an equally long list of self-identified Christians active in the counter-jihad & anti-mass migration movements. I’m sure the list of Christian councils and churches bending over backwards to support multiculturalism would be much longer than the list he has supplied.

          The point is, support & facilitation of multiculturalism comes from across the board. Pulling out a few names or organisations from one group of people is just pathetic. If we’re going to do that, two can play the game.

          • Penny

            I’m tempted to ask Hippograd two questions:

            1) what organisations represent him, and actually do just that? Most who were given a religious affiliation at birth or assumed a religion in later years will have organisations with the name of the denomination in its title. Nationality is also evident in organisations: the British Red Cross being one. I believe that would be supportive of refugees, asylum seekers and immigrants but does it represent “Brits” per se?

            2) If he’s ever bothered to ask Jewish people what they think of these organisations that claim to represent them. There probably are people who see the Board of Deputies as meaningful but, to be perfectly honest, I have never met one of them!

          • Damaris Tighe

            Have you seen today’s convo?

          • Penny

            I have now!

            We’ve all got multiple affiliations – religion, nationality, political, sports, professional organisations, unions, city – and so on. It’s a nonsense to suggest that everything that has “Christian”, “British”, “Tory”, “Manchester United”, “Doctor”, “National Union of Teachers” or “Liverpool” in its title, speaks for everyone who may have a link – tenuous or otherwise – to the many organisatons that include these terms.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Exactly.

      • Hippograd

        Yes, Damaris. Now tell me how many of them are supporting Trump and his plan to halt Muslim immigration. Tell me how many of them have the endorsement of the Board of Deputies and the ADL. Tell me how many of them believe in the West as a white Christian civilization, as opposed to a vehicle to advance the interests of Israel and its defenders.

        “Let’s Not Be Fooled by Pro-Refugee Propaganda, People!” was set up and is managed by The Jewish Council for Racial Realism (JCORR) and West London Synagogue of British Jews.

        It is supported across the community by all of the following organisations:

        AJR Alyth Gardens Synagogue Board of Deputies BODSA – Board of Deputies Social Action Group Finchley Progressive Synagogue JLC Jewish Volunteering Network JW3 League of Jewish Women The Liberal Jewish Synagogue Liberal Judaism Masorti Judaism Mitzvah Day New North London Synagogue Movement for Reform Judaism Northwood and Pinner Liberal Synagogue Office of the Chief Rabbi Pears Foundation Rabbinic Conference of Liberal Judaism Rabbinical Council of the United Synagogue Rene Cassin Tzelem United Synagogue World Jewish Relief

        Let’s Not Be Fooled by Pro-Refugee Propaganda, People!

        • Damaris Tighe

          If you continue to cherry-pick the left/liberal Jewish organisations, I’m sure if I had the time & inclination I could find a list of left/liberal pro-refugee Christian organisations many times the length.

          Some in that list do support Trump. But I didn’t know that being anti-mass migration is conditional on supporting Trump. Many non-Jewish right wing commentators have reservations as far as I can see, but I don’t follow US politics closely.

          However, all on that list support halting mass muslim immigration to the west & islamisation.

          Commentators like Ezra Levant have stated many times that they support European Christian civilisation. His last video on his recent visit to Europe published only a few days ago refers to its Cathedrals & laments the coming end of Christian civilisation in Europe.

          As for Israel, you should be thankful that there is one country in the ME that stands up for western values.

          • Hippograd

            If you continue to cherry-pick the left/liberal Jewish organisations, I’m sure if I had the time & inclination I could find a list of left/liberal pro-refugee Christian organisations many times the length.

            It’s hardly cherry-picking when those organizations represent the mainstream. Except in Israel, which has sensible policies on enrichment from the third world. The ADL and Board of Deputies are not on the fringe. And you don’t need to tell me how corrupt and decadent Christianity has become. The important question is who has the most power and influence in politics and the media. It isn’t Christians.

            Some in that list do support Trump.

            And some bitterly oppose him. I’m not saying he is ideal, but he is the only candidate heading in the right direction.

            However, all on that list support halting mass muslim immigration to the west & islamisation.

            Because they think it’s bad for Jews. Whereas others think it’s good for Jews. That’s the criterion, not whether it’s good or bad for European civilization.

            As for Israel, you should be thankful that there is one country in the ME that stands up for western values.

            I support Israel’s right to be a Jewish state and to defend its Jewish status by any means necessary. I do not support the double standards of far too many of Israel’s supporters.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Those organisations don’t ‘represent the mainstream’ of ordinary rank and file Jews any more than the views of the CoE or the Church of Scotland represent the views of nominal Christians or even many practising Chrisians.

            The division you’re looking for is between the ruling elites of Christians, Jews & secular & the ordinary people. Not between one ethno-religious group & the rest.

          • Hippograd

            Those organisations don’t ‘represent the mainstream’ of ordinary rank and file Jews

            Then why do Jews vote so heavily Democrat in the US and heavily support gay marriage and other entirely liberal things in the UK?

            The division you’re looking for is between the ruling elites of Christians, Jews & secular & the ordinary people. Not between one ethno-religious group & the rest.

            And who is disproportionately numerous and powerful in those elites? Who supports laws against “hate-speech” and funds anti-white organizations? Who supports Israel’s border-fences while opposing the same for Europe and the US?

            Please don’t pretend that all groups are just the same. That’s a mendacious liberal idea.

          • Damaris Tighe

            Just before the last GE a poll was taken of voting intentions of Jews. They intended to vote right of centre in roughly the same proportion as the rest of the population. The US is a different matter. Tribal voting in the US seems to be even more entrenched & unmovable than it is here. Once upon a time the Republicans contained antisemites. They don’t now, but many Jewish voters haven’t moved on.

            As I’ve explained before, Jews are more highly educated than average & therefore disproportionally represented in the intellectual class. Their leftism is a function of being in the intellectual class, not of being Jews. And the list I’ve provided shows that there is nothing inevitable about this equation.

            Gates of Vienna, one of the oldest & most respected websites in the counter-jihad movement recently commented that Jews are as ‘over-represented’ in the counter-jihad movement as they are in its opposite. Which supports my point.

          • Hippograd

            If the elite is hell-bent on destroying the west, why does Israel not have open borders? Why is Judaism not denigrated as Christianity is? Why is the Holocaust not ignored? You point out that Israel is a bastion of western values in the Middle East. In that case, the elite should be eager to destroy it. The left certainly are, but they’ve not had much success in stopping all those fences and detention camps going up.

            Just before the last GE a poll was taken of voting intentions of Jews. They intended to vote right of centre in roughly the same proportion as the rest of the population.

            What does “right of centre” mean? It means support for gay marriage, open borders and anti-racism. The Tory party in the UK are not conservative any more. If they had recently had two Iranian Muslims as chairmen, I would suggest that that might explain it. They don’t.

            As I’ve explained before, Jews are more highly educated than average & therefore disproportionally represented in the intellectual class. Their leftism is a function of being in the intellectual class, not of being Jews.

            But you’ve told me before that Jews, with their long history of unjust persecution, naturally adopt liberal positions on minority rights and anti-racism. Do you still think that? If you do, you’re contradicting yourself and their Jewishness does affect their politics. If you don’t think that, what changed your mind?

            Gates of Vienna, one of the oldest & most respected websites in the counter-jihad movement recently commented that Jews are as ‘over-represented’ in the counter-jihad movement as they are in its opposite. Which supports my point.

            “Counter-jihad” does not mean traditionally conservative. And again I ask: where do the ADL and Board of Deputies stand? The power and the influence lie on the pro-immigration, pro-minority side. Larry Auster was a Jewish convert to Christianity and a genuine traditional conservative. This is what he had to say on the subject:

            Just the other week I was telling a secular, leftist Jew of my acquaintance, a man in his late sixties, about my idea (which I’ve proposed at FrontPage Magazine) that the only way to make ourselves safe from the specter of domestic Moslem terrorism is to deport all jihad-supporting Moslems from this country. He replied with emotion that if America deported Moslem fundamentalists, it would immediately start doing the same thing to Jews as well. “It’s frightening, it’s scary,” he said heatedly, as if the Jews were already on the verge of being rounded up. In the eyes of this normally phlegmatic and easy-going man, America is just a shout away from the mass persecution, detention, and even physical expulsion of Jews. Given the wildly overwrought suspicions that some Jews harbor about the American Christian majority who are in fact the Jews’ best friends in the world, it is not surprising that these Jews look at mass Third-World and Moslem immigration, not as a danger to themselves, but as the ultimate guarantor of their own safety, hoping that in a racially diversified, de-Christianized America, the waning majority culture will lack the power, even if it still has the desire, to persecute Jews.

            http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=12534

          • Hippograd

            Why are the ruling elites not hell-bent on destroying Israel and Judaism, if they don’t represent the mainstream of Jewish opinion? Why is the Holocaust constantly evoked to justify mass immigration by Muslims and to condemn resistance by European natives to the invasion?

    • Penny

      Do you have any interest in those outside of the “vibrant community”?

      What of our own politicians, media, celebrities, national and global religious leaders (Pope Francis springs to mind) and charity organisations?

      • Hippograd

        No. The vibrant community — or rather, the vibrant communities — must be at the forefront of all decent progressive people’s minds 24/7/52. The UK and US can only justify their existence by elevating wimmin, People of Colour, the LGBT community, the Muslim community, et al, to the positions of power that have long and cruelly been kept from their grasp by the white sexist racist homophobic Islamophobic patriarchy.

        Rhodes Must Fall!

  • Baron

    Spot on, Rod, until almost near the end “and yet the problem is largely of our own making”.

    What? Largely? It’s entirely of our own making, 100% of it, the Full Monty our responsibility, and not only when it comes to deportations, everywhere else you look.

    Take immigration where the indigenous burghers blame the immigrants for being here, shout at them, often kick them. Why, the vast majority are here legally, break no laws, behave. We should shout at, kick, avoid voting for those who invited them, passed laws allowing them to come, brainwashed us to join the EU to make the flooding of the country easier.

  • Sue Smith

    Sick x 1,000 times.

  • Patrick Villiers

    We could (most likely) pay one of the many Lybian governments for a plot of land, where we could provide adequate detention facilities for for those awaiting deportation until they `remember´ where they originally came from. The Spaniards have a similar arrangement in North Africa.

    • 1e2c3a4w5

      Too sensible.

  • noix

    It is somewhat strange that DNA testing can be used to find out where someone’s ancestors migrated from but not illegal immigrants. Any opposition to their return by their countries of origin should be countered by a reduction in the overseas aid for the amount taken to deal with the miscreant.

    • vieuxceps2

      Good idea.

    • Bristol_Boy

      Why not use all of it to improve all that is declining here? a large chunk of it to remove the invaders that are not wanted. It only takes one country to stand up for it’s people and do something radical and meaningful and the rest will slowly follow as someone else has led the way.

  • davidofkent

    Yes, that Theresa May does a spiffing job doesn’t she? I believe there are still some slightly crazy people who think she should be the next leader of the Conservative Party (and future PM?). The mind boggles.

    • Ahobz

      To be fair it is probably an easier job to be PM than Home Secretary.
      The job of HS is dealing with the cr @p: prisons, illegals, immigration,
      security. There are few successful home secretaries and they are always
      being taken to court about something and losing. The fragrant Theresa
      is about as good as they get.

      • kennyh40

        The job of Home Secretary is a poisoned chalice that every budding potential cabinet minister dreads.

    • https://chaunceytinker.wordpress.com/ Chauncey Tinker

      I think a lot of those people had a bit of a shock because they were expecting her to run for the leadership of the Tories as a Brexit candidate, then she declared she’s for staying in. This following a speech on immigration where she said you can’t make a cohesive society with constant mass immigration or something similar. The woman’s head is full of double-think mixed with cotton wool, no wonder her policy proposals are so Orwellian.

    • CRSM

      Is there nowhere to which she can be deported?

  • rationality

    Pure manipulation. Using the case of an old woman to be deported so they can say ‘well you’re ok with a white woman its only because you’re racist that you dont want anyone else’ and then import millions of Africans and Muslims due to this. The people running this really do despise us and btching online doesnt get us anywhere.

    • vieuxceps2

      No,it doesn’t solve anything but at,least we now talk about these things openly without the baleful PC police breathing over our shoulders. “Anti-racists” have used the decency of most people to allow their devious policies to be enforced. Let’s stop now and adopt sense and reality and truth as our guidelines. We all know that muslm and African immigration has been a disaster and that the presendce of jihadi fanatics represents grave danger to us.
      Get rid of them,even if it does mean breaking some regulations. What choice have we?

      • rationality

        I agree with all that you say. But I dont know if you remember that you called me a conspiracy theorist a few months ago as I talked about the real culprits and their agenda. Whats your opinion on that now?

        • The_Missing_Think

          The usual default sulky shun, with an eerie silence.

          Which is fair enough really, as not everyone can fly a jet plane at max.

          Some poppies, just have a naturally taller paygrade, than their ‘equals’.

          • rationality

            The sooner people open their eyes the quicker we can deal with this. I’m trying to understand the psychological and emotional manipulative side more as a means to red pill quicker. I have never appreciated the science of psychology and its power so much until now. We’re just not aware that we are under a spell.

          • The_Missing_Think

            “We’re just not aware that we are under a spell.”
            _____

            Speak for yourself there, I can fly a jet at max, I am a tall poppy.

            ie… I don’t need smelling salts, when the subject matter goes politically racial. Not a problem.

            I can handle the g-forces involved, I don’t go all giddy, pale and peaky, unlike the brave, but silent ‘lions’.

          • rationality

            I am a tall poppy.

            Same here!

          • The_Missing_Think

            Yes, something like a furnace, burns deep within you, it also smoulders like a damp rag within the sheepies, as, don’t forget, they did ‘remember’ to white flight it, same as wee Nicola and A4 signalling Evette, just happened to ‘remember’ their comfort zone barge poles.

            Our job is to teach them how to fly ‘verbal’ jets, without passing out.

          • rationality

            I just wish I didnt have to do this anonymously.

          • The_Missing_Think

            You saw what happened to the BNP?

            Enoch Powell, Ray Honeyford, Emma West, le Penn, Girt Wilderds, and the late Theo van Gogh?

            Get real, unless you’ve got Trump dollars, it’s way too dangerous.

          • rationality

            Robin Cook, John Smith, Jill Dando, JFK, MLK and all the other ‘lone wolf’ attacks. People are a lot more wised up to their methods.

            But yes we’re run by a criminal mafia organisation. They have to go.

          • The_Missing_Think

            It’s for their own good as well, they’ll be more balanced, happier people, once we’ve got even with them , once they’ve been re-normalized with de-powerment.

            Though I suspect, they’ll not be very grateful about it.

        • vieuxceps2

          Sorry, can’t recall the exchange you mention,but it doesn’t matter now. The important point is to realise that we need to work concertedly to try to avoid what’s looking like the end of us Europeans. Sounds alarmist? Too true it is!

          • rationality

            Thats a shame but yes you’re right its not important.

            Other than that I agree with every word you say. I love it when people talk of Europeans as there is nothing more important than Europe and its people. I am fully aware of the danger we are in and we’re not alarmist enough!

    • tracery

      Things will not change until we tackle those within academia who have been brainwashing successive generations of young people to hate their own culture and history and inculcating their poisonous doctrine of multiculturalism and political correctness. It is the failure to address this cancer in our society which is at the root of our current problems. Having said that, it is now probably too late to do anything about it, and I fear that civil war now looms.

      • rationality

        I completely agree with you on the poison and society destroying intention of progressive politics, however look how quickly we have woken up and how many there are of us. Its got so far that we Europeans know instinctively that its bad news and against our nature. We need to better organised and that means getting away from our computers.

        • tracery

          You, of course, are right in saying that we need to be better organised. However, we are unlikely to achieve much without the support of younger people who have been brainwashed into believing otherwise.

          • rationality

            I think the younger people know what is going on. Boys and young men would love the chance to get their revenge on how they are discriminated against. The amount of people waking up is phenomenal. Which is why they are accelerating the invasion.

            I hate them so much!

        • Icebow

          Bit of a paradox in that concluding sentence?
          We needed a Pegida, and now we have one, led by the splendid Paul Weston. Seems to be a problem with the web page, though, and with Liberty GB’s.

          • rationality

            As much as I like Paul and he says some great stuff and is certainly brave, Islam is just the big daddy of our problems. Because its not the Islamics promoting feminism and the decline of Christianity.

            Its not a paradox at all. There is a correlation to the speed of the invasion and how many Europeans are waking up.

          • Icebow

            So, you would hold that use of computers is a negative factor in becoming better organized?

          • rationality

            ‘We need to better organised and that means getting away from our computers.’

            If we met up then we have face to face contact and we are more likely to build real camaraderie with each other and therefore trust. Its easier to discuss tactics around the table and thrash out what works or not. We can assign our duties for the cause. This activity is limited on computers and what we face is so great we need to take days off and get someone to look after the kids.

          • Icebow

            Perhaps you should have added ‘to some extent’.

          • rationality

            No. We really do need to get away from our computers if we have any chance of beating this.

          • Icebow

            Irrational, without the qualification suggested.

          • rationality

            Pedantry and pettiness isnt particularly helpful either.

          • Icebow

            A charge of pedantry is often resorted to by the less literate.

          • rationality

            How does that explain your pettiness?

          • Icebow

            Hmm. A shame. Run along now.

          • rationality

            There really was no need at all for this tirade. Completely pointless.

      • Bristol_Boy

        Well said.

  • rbw152

    Utterly ridiculous.

    Can’ we just shoot them? That would work wouldn’t it?

    (That’s a joke by the way moderators. You don’t need to call for a SWAT team. I’m a fluffy bunny really.)

  • James Chilton

    I knew about this shameful story before reading Rod Liddle’s robust and necessary commentary.

    “I never wonder to see men wicked, but I often wonder to see them not ashamed.”
    ― Jonathan Swift

  • thomasaikenhead

    As long as UK taxpayers foot the bill for lawyers to make vast sums from taking legal aid cases involving illegal immigrants, nothing will change.

    As ever, it is always about money.

    • noix

      I agree, most bad stuff in life seems to be traced back to lawyers profiting.

      • thomasaikenhead

        Blair and Jack Straw were lawyers, as is the wife of Clegg!

        • jennybloggs

          And the wife of Boris.

  • Ahobz

    Another factor aganst Mrs Cothill is that she is not very rich. According to the Bounemouth Echo she has an income of £300 per month. So, white, lawabiding (relatively, she seems to have overstayed) and relatively poor. She does seem to have had the backing of her co-religionists, though, which despite being arguably the least influential religion ,at the moment, does at least seem to have swung things her way.

    http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/12871747.91_year_old_widow_who_wants_to_stay_with_only_daughter_faces_deportation/

  • stuartMilan

    ah, the Dublin convention. which only applies when the Kanzlerin says so.

  • DEMOLITION12

    all part of White genocide

  • William Brown

    …and this is within a supposed independent, sovereign country (ahem). Imagine how many more excuses our spineless politicians and greedy lawyers will have at hand, once the UK’s dim-witted, or disinterested vote to stay within the EU.

    Why the majority of Westminster doesn’t seem to have the balls to stand up to bureaucracy, from wherever it comes, is a constant source of disappointment.

    • Bristol_Boy

      Careerist, self serving parasites added to the fact that none are fit for purpose and are totally inept, incompetent and lack the ability to fully carry out the job they were elected to, and people vote for these appalling parasites! it beggars belief.

  • The_Missing_Think

    “Mr Harrington hasn’t got a clue what country they should be deported to.”
    _____

    Here we go again, the same old mental illness trumping real world scientific facts with fuzzy wuzzy emotions.

    Israel uses DNA testing to solve this problem, so fuzzy wuzzies, why can’t we?

    Because we’re too ‘frit’ to be racial… by chance? Not BNP pleb-oinks… eh?
    _____

    “The Prime Minister’s Office confirmed that many Jews from the FSU who were born out-of-wedlock can be required to bring DNA confirmation of Jewish heritage in order to be allowed to immigrate as a Jew.”

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/russian-speakers-who-want-to-immigrate-could-need-dna-test/

  • The_Missing_Think

    I was deeply enraged about this, because her father fought in WWI.

    His daugter deported with threats and menace, in this 3rd world red carpet land, fit for heroes?

    My hatred of the pathetic English wretches, was off the scale, are these weirdo mutants, completely devoid of all racial self respect?

    A: Almost, not quite… but what’s the difference?
    _____

    “Myrtle Cothill, who was born under the British flag in 1924, and whose father fought for Britain in the first world war, has been ordered by the Home Office to turn up at Heathrow on Tuesday for a flight to South Africa.”

    “A Home Office decision to deport a 92-year-old widow who wanted to spend the “end of her days” with her only child in Britain could kill the pensioner, her daughter has said.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/18/widow-92-return-south-africa-deportation-battle-myrtle-cothill

    • Markish

      I’m South African of British descent. My paternal Great Grandad was born in Plymouth and fought for Britain in North Africa and Italy, My maternal Great Grandmother was born in Kent and survived the Blitz in London. In 2013 I traveled to the UK to apply for the British army. 5 months into the application process and thousands spent on travel and accommodation I was told to leave the Country as applications from Commonwealth nationals would no longer be considered.

      • The_Missing_Think

        There are 11 million Tory voters that owe you an apology.

        But don’t worry, like the Americans, we’re having a house clearance and general tidy up, hopefully, normal sane service will be resumed soon.

        And if we don’t restore it, we’ll all be stuffed, but…. if us Uplands Nats win, you’ll be most welcome, and all monies lost fully restored, with a Govt headed letter of apology, for such rodent behavior.

      • https://www.facebook.com/brit.barricades Jon Barrow

        I was in a British Army infantry regiment in the 90s; my motivation, like yours, was in large part patriotic – though some pragmatism too. Not sure I’d want to serve the modern British state though. Even in my day the Army, that most conservative of all civil service branches, was being undermined by constant PC assaults – from without, and also some from within.

        Perhaps you could try for a job, then residency, in the UK – then later re-apply to the Army: though I suppose that you’ve looked into that. I suppose too that in the immigration game cheats are rewarded – you just need to claim asylum, or pose as some kind of student, something a white man would find hard to get away with.

        Best wishes.

  • logdon

    It reminds me of when Cherie Blair, working for Matrix Chambers defended Shabina Begum’s ludicrous posturing over her Denbigh High School uniform.

    Begum was a willing front for Hizb -ut Tahrir and intent on stirring trouble.

    Coincidentally following the London Bombing, Blair promised to proscribe HuT. It never happened.

    Two lawyers here. Grown fat off the land which nurtured them to the lofty positions they held.

    If a time point could be selected as to the rot we find ourselves in, this could well be it.

    The signal?

    Do what you bloody well want. In fact when you do it you’ll get top table service and its all free!

    • Robbydot1

      But not if you’re white.

  • Mongo

    notice we always get the guff from the SJW’s that these migrants are going to be ‘the next generation of doctors, nurses and engineers’,

    but they never include lawyers in that list…..

  • john

    We need to deport unemployed German immigrants, living in state owned property with their equally unemployed relatives.

    • Mongo

      you’re referring to the royal family?

      • john

        How did you guess?

    • MillionaireSocialist

      They’re not German though, or immigrants.

      • john

        A couple of generations ago they were. Wasn’t Phil the Greek really German?

        • BritishPatriot

          The old “Greek” is mainly Danish.

          • john

            He is a descendant of the Danish-German house of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg, whose members have provided bespoke royalty to Denmark, Norway and Greece. Philip was himself born Prince Philippos of Greece and Denmark on June 10 1921 on Corfu. He certainly has a lot more German than Greek blood and does speak German.

        • MillionaireSocialist

          Ted Dexter was born in Milan. Go away.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          Well he did have *azi Storm trooper relatives.

    • jeremy Morfey

      Actually, they owe their claim to residency to one Electress Sophia of Hanover. As grand-daughter of King James VI of Scotland (and James I of England), she was a second generation Scottish immigrant to Germany.

      As the article points out though, she would have considerably fewer rights to live here than a Saudi-backed jihadi.

      Curiously, one of her descendants is none other than our current Prime Minister. Also Donald Trump can claim Scottish ancestry, and PM-in-Hiding Boris Johnson is of Turkish descent, born in New York, so who knows these two might wish to swap jobs if things get too hot where they end up? I’m sure they could disqualify themselves from the “decent and law-abiding” test, so that they can get the relevant permits to stay.

      • john

        Interesting genetic trivia but what relevance does this have to choosing a Head of State in the 21st century?

  • mohdanga

    Yup, I’m sure half the Border Services will be sent to pick her up.

  • Vinnie

    Don’t you get it Rod? It’s a race issue. This poor lady is not ‘diverse’ enough to remain in the UK. The same reason why I was not diverse enough to remain in Canada even though I’d been there legally and had a good job paid tax etc.

    • mohdanga

      I’m Canadian and myself and the silent majority here are sick and tired of our gov’t grovelling to illiterate 3rd worlders as the source of our immigrants instead of people like you who are, gasp, white, speak English and from the country that settled and founded Canada. Blame the Liberals under Pierre Trudeau for starting this fiasco, and now the media is enamoured of his son, who is carrying on the family tradition of destroying this country. It’s not the country I grew up in.

      • Vinnie

        I am in Canada still I managed to apply for PR before I left. got rejected, reapplied with my immigration consultants on my behalf. I managed to get it and now reside in Edmonton along with many other Brits (there’s a good and bad points to that also!). Canada seems to be going through the process of diversity like they need it and it’s a good thing. Remind me of how that’s working out in places like Toronto and Vancouver.

        • mohdanga

          It’s your country just as much as the “newcomers” from the Middle east and the rest of the 3rd world that have absolutely nothing in common in Canada, but who the Liberals fawn over and treat like it’s their birthright to be here! I wish all of our immigrants today came from the UK and Europe…but that was the bad, old days before “diversity” was the buzzword.
          Yeah, Hongcouver. How is a city “diverse” when the host population is being pushed out by one ethnic group?
          It’s never been explained how Toronto, which 40 years ago was almost all white, is better now that whites are in a minority?? I live an hour away from Toronto and visit a few times a year to see friends…every time I’m more astounded as to how I feel like a stranger in my own country. On a packed subway car the only whites were myself and friend…it is disturbing that in the space of a little more than a generation the ethnic makeup of this country has completely changed. The same multiculti, diversity mob that jumps for joy at white countries becoming diverse, would be apoplectic if say, Hong Kong, was half white and English speaking!! Diversity apparently is only good for whites….
          As for Trudeau, he will be a disaster for this country…but look, “he’s so handsome and charming”.

          • Mongo

            same thing’s happening in the UK. parts of London and other cities are unrecognisable now – you can walk down whole streets or get onto public transport and never hear a word of English.

            and it’s happened so rapidly that before people started to wake up it’s already too late

          • mohdanga

            The West is finished. No backbone anymore. And keep electing the same dolts that keep the immigrant spigot open. If I were British I would be voting “Leave”!!

          • Vinnie

            I am voting Leave from canada. Here’s an interesting point: we have a Brit Expat group for the city I live in on Facebook. We had a new person sign up just so she could convince us all to Vote Stay. She lived in Barcelona and was from Manchester. I looked at her profile, her surname. I wonder if she was from Salford? And what demographic live in Salford? Have a guess.

          • mohdanga

            She’s not Muslim, is she?

          • Vinnie

            she’s “God’s Chosen People”

          • Damaris Tighe

            So is Ezra Levant.

          • BritishPatriot

            You can write “Jew”, you know. It isn’t a forbidden word on the Spectator. Don’t be afraid to call a spade a spade.

          • vieuxceps2

            Call a spade a spade? What if she’s black?

          • BritishPatriot

            I’m sure you can think of some amusing euphemisms for those dratted coloured folks….

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            I resemble that remark.

          • licjjs

            Many of us wakened up years ago and have watched in horror at the car crash that is London.

          • Dr No

            He looks a bit like Mick Jagger

          • Dr No

            He looks a bit like Mick Jagger

          • Patricia

            “On a packed subway car the only whites were myself and friend…it is disturbing that in the space of a little more than a generation the ethnic makeup of this country has completely changed. The same multiculti, diversity mob that jumps for joy at white countries becoming diverse, would be apoplectic if “….

            The same can be said of London, which no longer belongs to the English.

          • johnhenry

            Don’t you mean Towelhead Hamlets?

          • gigi4747

            Someone on the Frontpagemag.com site said that Justin Trudeau was “an adorable little boy with a learning disability” because he never seems to understand that Islam is a threat. :)

        • mohdanga

          My wife’s best friend and husband live in Edmonton. He is being downsized after 20+ years with an oil exploration company, she has a good paying job providing training services but her contract is not being renewed. They’ll end up leaving Alberta but not to worry, two Syrian “refugees” will take their place!

          • Dr. Heath

            Justin Trudeau. The Ottawa Arsehole. Canada’s version of Ed Miliband.

        • Hugh_Oxford

          The election of that cretinous show pony Trudeau was all the proof that the Lumberjack Song was prophetic. It was a depressing sight.

          • Frank Marker

            ‘Show pony’. Brilliant! I must remember that one for future reference.

        • Joseph Flannagan

          My daughter is desperate to stay legally and work in the USA but despite numerous attempts and applications her 4 year degree course is not considered essential or skilled enough to qualify for a green card .Meanwhile from Somalia , Syria , Iraq etc they are laying out the red carpet for those who despise everything about the USA , it’s way of life , it’s culture , it’s government , it’s military , it’s religious freedom etc !. It makes my blood boil to see what is happening.

      • Mongo

        if you are the silent majority then start being less silent about it!

        • Vinnie

          We have Rebel Media, Lauren Southern and Ezra Levant

          • Frank Marker

            And Mark Steyn.

          • 3MileLimit

            Mark Steyn is a wonderfully intelligent man. And funny!

        • gigi4747

          Agreed. We have to get over our fear of being called a bad name. I have parted ways with some former friends over the past few years because I have decided to be more vocal about my values. Right vs wrong, the future of my country (the U.S.), and my family’s wellbeing means more to me than anything.

  • Dominic Stockford

    Oh Myrtle, Myrtle, Myrtle. Why did you do it? Didn’t you know that only threats to civilisation may overstay their welcome?

  • Tom M

    Turning the point of the article around has anyone noticed that for all the countries around the Mediterranean which aren’t in the EU the only country from which an asylum seeker would have their application rejected would be Israel.

    • Mongo

      Israel appears to be the only western democracy actively concerned for its own citizens’ safety and security

    • Penny

      I’m not sure that’s the case, Tom. I believe there are some 46,000 asylum seekers in Israel – although another source cites 60,000.

      Israel might be classed as “reluctant” in this area because most of those arriving are doing so illegally and many are coming from Sudan – a country hostile to Israel.

      • Tom M

        Apologies if it wasn’t clear but I’m suggesting that the only country’s citizens who would not be allowed asylum in the EU would be ones from Israel. Everybody else from anywhere else would have their applications granted.

        • Mike Christie

          Surely the only Israeli citizens claiming asylum would be non-Jewish ones?

        • Bonkim

          But Israel is a safe country, why should anyone wish to run away from Israel?

          • newminster

            Thereby spectacularly missing the point!

  • Paul Robson

    Indeed. A friend and colleague, British born and bred, of mine was married to a Kenyan woman. They’d been married for a while, had two children, one of whom was born in the UK, both worked, and they were undoubtedly a couple. The only thing against them was there was quite a large age gap , over 10 years.

    The bl**dy idiots who couldn’t deport convicted terrorists managed to deport her, concluding it wasn’t a real marriage (irrespective of minor details that they’d married in Kenya and lived there for several years) despite protests from just about everyone who knew them. He said if she was deported to Kenya, he’d go back with her.

    She was, and he did.

    Still f**king gets me cross several years after the event.

    • Jack Cade

      What happened to his/her/the children’s right to family life etc?

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      And check the visa fees Britain imposes. Literally in the thousands.

  • 100

    maybe but Britain definitely imports the wrong people ALL THE WRONG PEOPLE

  • vieuxceps2

    Just written a comment quoting Dickens about the donkey-like aspect of the law, the one we all know..Guess what? It’s been moderated, presumably because of “a*s”. Dear Me, modders, are you illiterate?

    • Malcolm Stevas

      No, it’s the half-witted Disqus censor-bot and its American sensibilities.

      • Maureen Fisher

        There are various words that trigger an automatic response and get your comment put into pending which is a no man’s territory from which your comment will never be released. I referred to the absurd offence taken at the harmless phrase SP** and spa* but should have asterixed it. I believe se# and
        N@@zi are also verboten.

        • Malcolm Stevas

          Yes, I know all too well how it works – another example is that one has to use the Americanism “rooster” to describe a male domestic fowl…

          • Stu

            Thanks Malcolm that made me laugh at its sheer absurdity.

          • newminster

            And we all know why the residents of Scunthorpe are computer-illiterate, don’t we?

        • Jacobi

          What about putting a line through, which I don’t know how to do? Blast! Now
          that will be flagged. Sorry!

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          H e 1 1

      • The_greyhound

        You’re suggesting that Americans have sensibilities?

        Extraordinary.

  • DellerboyNZ

    Perhaps Mrs Cothill could have bought a cat in partnership with her daughter. Voila – right to family life right there.
    Dependency and a blood relationship doesn’t hack it, but add the ‘Feline Factor’ …

  • Malcolm Stevas

    All very apt. As soon as I heard about this lady’s case, my response was the same: our government is ready & willing to eject an Anglo old lady, while all manner of vermin from alien cultures are allowed to stay here and propagate their hatred of us. Really, Alice in Wonderland is far too genteel a comparison. It’s as if our political class were so filled with contempt for their own culture they were impatient to do it down as quickly as possible. Damn them.

  • Bonkim

    Pathetic!

  • Nick

    It’s when I read about things like those mentioned in Rods article that I truly feel ashamed of our government.

    Truly,truly ashamed.

    I nearly said that I’m ashamed to be British but I’m not really.But the likes of Cameron,May,Corbyn etc,they are all the same and none of them are truly British.

  • Hugh_Oxford

    It’s called the pathocracy, Rodney. Hadn’t you noticed it before?

  • Cheddarcakes

    Anyone notice how they only deport white people (soft targets)? They are trying to deport that poor American lady with a British hubby who has cancer too. African rapists and jihadis get a free house

    • Maureen Fisher

      Because the yooman rights lawyers jump to their defence whereas Myrtle wouldn’t be considered worthy enough.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      See it as a blessing in disguise. Britain’s going down the Muslim pan anyway.

  • http://www.Telegraph.co.uk/ Marie1797

    Our leaders are nothing but spineless cowards who should all be shipped off to a remote desert island.

  • Maureen Fisher

    Omar Bakri was another one we were stuck with for years until he took himself off voluntarily to the Lebanon where he is currently in jail. We have learned today in a Telegraph article that the leaked ISIS documents show he was responsible for direct recruitment of various notorious people such as Mohammed Emwazi and the Lee Rigby killers.

    • Bob

      Muslim states are always always far harsher on muslim extremist group members, that represent threat to civil society or regime status, than the west can ever comprehend, they are simply jailed or controlled.

  • Yorkieeye

    We once employed a great young white South African guy in our business. He had all the skills we needed. He was young, single and in good health. In other words he cost the rest of us nothing. He paid his taxes and helped to increase company profit. But he had to go. No amount of pleading made a jot of difference and he was told to go back to SA by an appointed time or face jail.
    During this period our contract cleaners sent us a constant stream of bored young black Africans to mop the lavs. They had permission to stay indefinitely. They were almost certainly costing tax payers money, some had kids, some had health problems and the only skills they brought with them involved resentful mop wielding. Why?

    • Mow_the_Grass

      Brits have never forgiven RSA for pulling out of the commonwealth.
      Most Saffer youngsters have a can do attitude.
      Many of the best/brightest have taken their skills out of the country ie doctors/scientists/engineers/accountants (the real degrees) – and are now to be found in Aust/US/UK anywhere their qualifications are recognised.

    • The wall of the stall

      South Africa,the African Detroit.

  • A real liberal

    We are a virtue-signalling and truly decadent society: undeserving stewards of a millenium of progress. There is plenty of evidence of what happens to such societies. But the passing of any civilisation and its replacement by barbarism is still a sad thing. Our children – particularly our girl children – will not forgive us.

    • quotes

      The truly tragic part is that from their perspective they will think they owe us a debt.

  • Bob

    This is interesting article as – as Australian – was recently talking to owner of a favourite takeout restaurant who is Caucasian South African in mid 50’s. At my query of her family migration, she told me she had a widowed mother in SA, despite serious security concerns, but Australian policy essentially denied her mother as aged migrant, in 80’s, as a potential welfare burden – on pension and public health. Now this may be technically true, but it was case the aged woman had a intergenerational family with successful business in Australia as support structure.
    Now I support our immigration policy per se – geared at halting human trafficking where illegal migrants pay corrupt Indonesian officials to launch at our coastline exploiting maritime sea distress laws. But in numerous cases these illegals have been granted visas and engage in lengthy legal claims which if successful then allow the follow on of families usually of mid east origin, which will often involve welfare support for a raft of issues around, income, accommodation and health.
    In contrast, I do wonder if South Africa has such a blackened reputation in west that leaders have effectively thrown the ethnic Caucasian population to the wind – and there is a reverse prejudice at play.

  • Marvin

    Our pathetic spineless government now have a policy of covertly letting in uncontrolled numbers of illegal migrants mainly from France. None are being sent back. As well, they are involved in total free movement of anyone and try to side track us by claiming that we do not belong in the Shenghan zone. LIES AND DECEIT!

  • WFB56

    “…there are more than 30,000 known (an important qualifier) illegal asylum seekers who cannot be deported because he doesn’t know where to send them.” Of these, how many are on the dole and / or receiving legal aid?

    Answers gratefully received.

  • EdmundFoster

    I would be all for stuffing them all onto a boat or a raft of some description and casting them off into the Atlantic. I agree, it is all largely our fault.

  • Jack Cade

    Great article again Rod. More reasons never to vote for Cameron and May.

  • Ron Todd

    Build a nice prison then fill it up with Jamaicans and have it run by Jamaicans and how long will it remain a nice prison. If the prisons they already have are not nice that can only be down to the people in the prisons and the people running the prisons.

  • TrulyDisqusted

    Couldn’t Saint Theresa of the Jimmy Choos have a word in the shells of those who removed Dr David Kelly and Robin Cook?

    Or do we only bump off problematic white folks?

  • rtj1211

    As you’d have to deport half the House of Commons if you deported ‘the right people’, why would you ever think that they would ever consider that?!

  • Mike E

    Reading this I realize that Britain, and Europe, deserve to be destroyed by third world barbarians.

    • Father Todd Untious

      How ridiculous.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Patting myself on the back for my foresightedness in relocating to Japan way back in 1973.

  • Arthur Ascii

    I’m having to wean myself of Speccie articles like this. They are enraging and depressing in equal measure.

    Wogan’s Janet & John stories are the only antidote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8U612YLjHQ

  • MikeF

    I have sometimes wondered if cases such as those of Mrs Cothill are deliberately engineered in order to bring the concept of deportation into disrepute so that it can be more easily evaded in other instances where it is obviously warranted.

    • Millie_Woods

      That’s an excellent point Mike. And also opening the door for a “they allowed Myrtle to stay because she’s white’ defence. British justice is utterly broken and dysfunctional thanks to 70 years of socialism.

      • Luke Neave

        Can you give us your definition of Socialism? If as I presume it is simply someone left wing, then it’s about time we came up with a name for those on the right who want to stereotype everyone and everything, so they can create a world for their benefit.

        • Millie_Woods

          Socialism: a disease of the mind that causes the victim to believe they are participating in the creation of a utopian society. The main symptoms are the willingness to squander all social resources in the service of unobtainable goals and the refusal to recognize the damage they are doing. Oblivious to reason, socialists move from one failed enterprise to another blaming unbelievers for the wreckage behind them. Eventually all socialist-infested socies become chaotic, dysfunctional contraptions, leading socialists to believe there’s too many people competing for too few resources and the solution is mass murder. Some notable socialists who engineered perfect societies are Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot and Adolp Hitler.

  • roccolore

    Britain also bans critics of jihadists, yet welcomes Muslims who support stoning rape victims.

    • Luke Neave

      who?

      • roccolore

        I guess you don’t know about England banning Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer while allowing Muhammad al-Arefe.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          Scumbag country. Hate it and leave it.

  • WalterBannon

    Sounds like Britain needs a civil war.

    • Sargon the bone crusher

      It is not very far away from one, I suspect.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Don’t start the revolution without me.

  • GoJebus

    We are just about the most sorry bunch of organisms in the whole ocean. A nation of fat, ravenous consumer fish led by cnidarians. The law is not working. Tear up the law. Kick out these jellyfish MPs (Moribund Polyps) who have somehow barnacled themselves to the levers of power, led by the current emperor medusan, Cameron, – a more aimless bag of poison you’d be hard pushed to find wandering on the tide. Yes, the world has changed and perhaps we cannot regain our former glory, but maybe we can recover our dignity – no? This will end in political revolution, mark my words.

    • Tad_Porter

      Could you kindly provide more information on this Moribund Polyps fellow? I tried Googling the name but didn’t find anything. Is he in the House of Lords perhaps?

      • GoJebus

        Oh he’s in the House of Lords all right. He’s there, he’s everywhere in the House of Commons, and he’s probably in charge of your local council, while holding down the mayorship of your local town or city.

  • Maureen Fisher

    I made the same comment re the Pakistani gentleman a couple of weeks ago and it was binned. Glad Rod made it past the censor.

  • Maureen Fisher

    There’s an even more bizarre case, Rod. The Lithuanian r@@pist who was deported and a judge here over ruled it and ordered his return!

  • Shorne

    Two points, when I worked in a prison it was very noticeable that the country would benefit from the removal of certain members of one ethnic group in particular, one that has been coming here long before the EU was thought of, I think that’s probably all I can say. Also there’s an article in today’s Guardian (yes I know but the facts seem correct) that from next month non-EU citizens who have been here less than 10 years and earn less than £35,000 will be deported. This will particularly affect Americans and Australians, countries whose goodwill we may need more than usual perhaps in the not too distant future.

    • Bertie

      It wont affect Pakistanis or Bangladeshis more?

      • Shorne

        No sorry to disappoint you’
        http://www.stop35k.org/#!our-stories/rgxvy

        • Bertie

          Whats disappointment got to do with it – I asked a question.
          Not a great decision to get rid of teachers from English speaking nations it has to be said.

          £35,000 cut off – that’s for all migrants though so how will third world migration from Non EU countries earn anywhere near that?

          • Shorne

            The article was about deporting the wrong people.

          • Bertie

            But why the assumption I was “disappointed”

            It’s indisputable that we are deporting the wrong people that’s for sure..where did I say it wasnt.

          • Leon Wolfeson

            Yes, no mass expulsions of those not like you.

  • Thaddeus lovelock

    The impenetrable logic of the Kafkaesque bureaucracy.

  • newminster

    Can anyone explain where in the Eurpean Convention it specifies that a convicted criminal’s right to family life overrides a country’s right to deport an undesirable alien? Or where it says that that right must be exercised in the country of his choice?
    Is there anything to prevent Hamza’s daughter-in-law taking her son to Morocco and having a “family life” there? I have no wish to interfere with her right to family life but given that she is a convicted criminal, in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, the UK would be perfectly within its rights to remove her to her “home” country.
    As someone said (in a different context) the ECHR was not designed as a suicide pact! It’s long past time that the government grew a pair!
    (For anyone who thinks that Brexit is the answer, think again. The choice is between repealing the insane 1998 Human Rights Act, a typically touchy-feels piece of Blairite legislation, or making it clear that the security of the UK takes precedence over the way the Court chooses to interpret Section 8).

    • SimonToo

      I do agree. It seems to be straining at a gnat, when we deport someone, to refuse a one-way EasyJet ticket to the other half and their children so that they can all be together.

    • Peter Gardner

      Brexit is not sufficient but it is a necessary first step. The EU’s Charter of Fundamental Rights over-rides any UK legislation and puts into EU law every decision of the ECHR. If Britain withdrew from the ECHR the ECJ would take on the ECHR’s jurisdiction over UK. Thus it is essential that if Britain is to escape the lunatic judges it must first leave the EU. Only then is there any point in withdrawing from the European Convention and amending the UK Human Rights Act.

      • PaD

        Get brexit..then tell them to f…k off…simple.

  • Sargon the bone crusher

    Britain is a sadistic dysfunctional horror – it oppresses delightful old ladies and has not got the bollocks to remove the muslim nightmare that so disfigures so many of our cities and towns by preying on vulnerable ‘kufar’ girls.
    And all the while politicians who should be in jail have protected and very probably encouraged this nightmare that continues TODAY!!!!!!!! Aided and abetted by the corrupted ‘agencies’ who know precisely who puts the rancid butter on their mouldy bread.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      Yes yes, it’s too nice to people, as you blame Muslims for everything, and as you demand jailing elected politicians, as you attack the evils of the NHS, etc.

      As you call for investigating why not far right people were elected, chaired by you…right.

      • diskit

        Time will come, have a cola in the meantime.

        • Leon Wolfeson

          No, your far right keep losing here, in fact.

          Remember Cable Street!

          (And “cola”…American?)

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          There will be a reckoning.

      • Sargon the bone crusher

        The right is not concerned with the protection of rape against vast numbers of kufar girls, you moral bankrupt.

        • Leon Wolfeson

          I care about crime no matter who does it – this to you is “moral bankrupt”.

          And then you try and deny your far right stance…sad.

    • Katabasis

      It’s ‘anarcho-tyranny’.

      Via Samuel Francis – “we refuse to control real criminals (that’s the anarchy) so we control the innocent (that’s the tyranny).”

  • sebastian2

    These are instances where the “law” and “justice” part company entirely.

  • dave oliver

    if our laws do not allow for our survival they need to be changed or at least broken

  • stephen powell

    Simply lock up stateless people until they say where they come from. Take it from there. Strange as it may sound, a powerless state is not a state at all. It is nothing.

  • Newspaniard

    I thought that the country of origin could be identified from their DNA. Once identified, these persons could be deported with a (say) passport which expired on the week they landed, endorsed “Criminal with no right to be admitted to the UK”. If the person claims “family life”, the family should be given the opportunity to travel with him (her) at taxpayers’ expense. If there are no children then I think it is fair to assume that the spouse colluded with the criminal and therefore should be deported automatically at the same time.

    • Bertie

      Far too sensible.
      It’d surely be easy to secure the services of nationals already legally resident in UK, from country’s that said suspect is considered to possibly hail from, to interview said “uncooperative dishonest asylum claimees” – establishing regional dialects,mannerisms peculiar to certain countries,couple to DNA / other biometric tests should be easy to establish where these people come from.

      No doubt the cries will be such test are too expensive or infringement of civil liberties.

      If they’re here illegally and wont cooperate then they forfeit such protections where the aim is to identify which country they come from.

      With regard to cost – weigh up short term cost of such tests to the likely subsequent 30-40 years plus of welfare dependency, free house, NHS, and the most probable repeat of said cycle with said persons offspring – all educated in the art of receiving something for nothing.

  • http://www.21stcenturybusinessentrepreneur.com/ Patrick Clarke

    A great article which flags up the urgency of leaving not just the EU but the European Court of Human Rights and restoring some sanity in these matters. Both institutions may have been founded with the best of intentions but are now well past their “sell by date”.

    Myrtle Cothill is by no means an isolated case. I know of an Australian driving instructor with a British wife and children, a South African with British children who has worked for the Ministry of Defence for over 10 years, a Japanese woman married to a decorated British ex-serviceman and an Argentinian lady who has worked in the NHS for over 20 years. The common thread is all are assets to this country, work hard, cause no harm to anyone BUT all have had citizenship applications turned down and put on notice for deportation at a future date.

    This is the insane system we have, where people such as these are kicked out, but religious megalomaniacs, criminals of all description and other nutters etc keep being allowed to stay. One cannot but suspect that this is part of some deliberate plot to demoralise us all so that we just passively shrug whilst our civilisation passes into history.

    • Neil Saunders

      Oh, it’s a deliberate policy all right. And Common Purpose are closely involved.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Britain, hate it and leave it.

  • DellerboyNZ
  • Sargon the bone crusher

    Modern day Britain is run by criminals – in particular the Labour Party, and is a shame on its past.
    It is a moral in nearly every respect, including migration politics.
    I see no possibility now of any recovery, since the degeneration has gone far too far, an has corrupted the population, who no longer either remember their history nor have the capacity to recall the values their ancestors once possessed.

    • Ipsmick

      Er, the Labour Party isn’t running Britain. Big business and the Conservative Party are.

      • Sargon the bone crusher

        Er, the Labour party has dominated the media, has governed until recently, with corrupted values that destroyed the Conservative Party to the point where , for most of the post war period, there was no real difference between them. The exception was Margaret, but her connection with Britain’s past vales cause the mass left to loathe her, and the spineless modern tories to disown her actions.
        The entire media, the civil service, the police, the other agencies of the State all fervently wish Labour to return, since they all know who butters their bread.
        Big business and globalisation plus bank fraud was a New Labour speciality, from where there is no recovery.
        Labour and the City have a common interest – to hoover up the wealth of the nation and too remove controllable wealth from the individual. Tax laws, pensions, investment controls and City practices all conspire to achieve this.

        Thank God I don’t live there.

        • Neil Saunders

          Thatcher was the start of the mischief, and a huge inspiration to Blair.

          She was a 19th century Radical, not a Conservative (and I write as a fairly unreconstructed Consensus-era Social Democrat who is also a moderate, small “c” social and cultural conservative).

          Even the lunacy of identity politics (aka Political Correctness) has clear roots in the wave of individualism unleashed by Thatcher.

          • Sargon the bone crusher

            Interesting.
            I don’t think you are right. In any sense.
            Enough said.

          • evad666
          • Neil Saunders

            Not enough said if you can’t explain why you think so.

          • Sargon the bone crusher

            I WON’T tell you why! I won’t I won’t I won’t!!!!! So There!!!!!

          • Neil Saunders

            Grow up.

          • Sargon the bone crusher

            No!
            Won’t!!!!

          • Neil Saunders

            zzzzz…

      • Neil Saunders

        New Labour gave way to Blue Labour, that’s all. A very smooth handover of power.

  • Ipsmick

    Round them up, stick them on a boat, and instruct them to seek asylum in Australia. Job done.

  • gager

    Goodbye Britain…you had a great time before you lost your head.

  • gigi4747

    I believe that one of the foremost modern-day chroniclers of Islamic jihad, Robert Spencer, was also denied entry to England. Because “hate speech,” of course. Absolute insanity.

    I am American and lots of us are perplexed as to why Europe seems to have a death wish.

    • Neil Saunders

      Your country has a death wish, too. With Europe it’s mainly to do with Islam (since we’re encircled in the south and south-east by Muslim countries).

      With you, it’s mainly to do with Hispanics.

      All part of the plan. Listen to Alan Watt’s “Cutting Through the Matrix” podcasts to get part of an inkling why. For the rest, read Robin Ramsay’s “Lobster” magazine.

  • casper

    the pseudo problem of not knowing the origin of the invading enemies is easily solvable. send them all to Somalia. or uk could serve its own best interests and chain them to posts at low tide.

  • Stay Puft

    Left wing ideology has poisoned British politics, which is why you have useful idiots like Owen Jones defending islamists who throw gay men off roofs, and why Labour under Jeremy Corbyn is now home to hordes of anti-Semites who openly hate Jews and support jihadist terrorism.

  • evad666

    High Time we put full physical castration followed by Oestrogen implantation on the agenda for all Paedophiles.
    Those holding dual nationality can then be deported.

  • Jacobi

    The Myrtle Cothill case raises again an important point concerning the sheer stupidity and
    irrationality of how aliens are dealt with in the UK.

    This is because of the nonsense of so-called International Law. There is no such thing as International Law. Yes, we have international treaties, to which we are signatories. But all such are subject to National Law or the the intent of National Law. In the UK, law is made by Parliament and
    all such treaties are subject to Parliament ‘s actual or intended law.

    Therefore, if it is in our national interest to get rid of undesirable aliens of whatever sort then we do so.

    Which raises the second issue. That is humane arrest and internment. Now we can call it that or give it a “nice” name. But it will now have to come, whichever, and indeed is already being implemented slowly in France and elsewhere in Europe.

    The Aussies have given a very good example of how to go about this.

    One of the Channel Islands would be suitable or perhaps a remote Hebridean island. It would give the undesirables plenty of time to think and remember where it was they set out from.!

    • Flintshire Ian

      South Georgia or Ascension would be even better. Lawyer free zones.

    • WarriorPrincess111111

      In Britain – the actual immigration laws are not defined! The Laws contradict themselves and any interpretation can be acceptable. The same for the Asylum Laws – read them and you will see what I mean.

      • Jacobi

        All the easier the to act. So why don’t they!

  • mumble
    • Jackthesmilingblack

      Sounds as if you have a failed state as well as a failed police service, Sweden pals.

  • Ronnie

    Britain has left no stone upturned to repel the brain-drain migrants and invite the Third World rejects. My cousin found it nearly impossible to get a work-permit after her MS in Bioinformatics from Imperial College, although she had a job offer from a leading Swiss Pharmaceutical firm. The issue was: first six months were regarded as “Internship”. The company promptly found a place for her in Frankfurt, Germany. And now working in Basel, with a salary more than double than those for comparable positions in London.

    • Jackthesmilingblack

      See it as a blessing in disguise.
      In Leicester University, some 98% of post graduate students are Chinese. However, as soon as they graduate they are compelled to leave Britain. The logical approach would be to capitalize on the investment, by sadly UK authority is too blinkered to do the obvious.

      • Ronnie

        How about granting them 10 years non-renewable work permit, and make those young Chinese Grads work in UK, till they remain net-contributor to the society. I am sure they would love Leicester over orange smog and traffic gridlocks of Beijing.
        Apparently, inane human rights of foreign criminal, hate preachers are more important. So is love-rat’s “right to family life”.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          A significant number of these Chinese post-grads are female (the late unlamented single child policy), so get into character as an English gentleman, guys. Alternative home comforts providers just hove on the horizon. The 10-year limit is a tad too long, because feminism British style threatens to turn your Chinese lady into the type of person you went international to avoid. Definite advantages on the visa front, for both parties.
          Combine emigration with new spouse acquisition. It’s a whole new ball game.

        • Jackthesmilingblack

          There would by the rest of the UK to relocate to …. OK, as you were.
          But hey, Ronnie, you’re getting with the programme.

      • EUSSR 4 All!

        But I thought you have lived in Japan since the year 1973, as you claim! Oh, right, you are just making this up, obviously!

  • Space 1999

    The EU, or rather the European Court of Justice, is the root of all this evil.

    Most ‘judges’ there are not legal professionals at all, and none have a sense of the consequences of their actions in a country they don’t live in and probably can’t be bothered to visit.

    Our Supreme Court needs to be precisely that – we’ll still get judges who take the side of the ‘sweet and tender jihadi’, but many won’t feel letting them stay here and ferment hate is the right call. Because they know that they themselves, and their families, could one day suffer at the hands of these vermin.

    Time to leave the EU, and take back control of our country.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      Ah yes, those pesky rules on paying workers, not torturing people…

  • evad666

    Now who was it who scrapped the Primary Purpose Rule and signed us up to the ECHR?

    • trevor

      The UK signed the ECHR in Nov 1950 and ratified in 1951. The whole idea was inspired by Winston Churchill and written with the guidance of the notable Nuremberg prosecutor David Fyfe.

    • Pioneer

      I believe it was Blair who scrapped Primary Purpose. ECHR was earlier, the current difficulties had not been foreseen.

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    Test

    • Jack_H

      Yes Jack,do you still; carry a Gaijing card?When I was over there you had to register and be fingerprinted if you intended to stay longer than 90 days,obtaining citizenship was impossible without Japanese ancestry and they remain one of the richest countries in the world…….I wonder if any of the mass migration advocates on here could explain how this is possible?

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        That would be Gaijin Card.
        There’s the new, improved version for us permanent residents, the Residence Card.
        Fingerprinted, sure. Where aren’t you fingerprinted?
        There is this story/urban legend of a gaijin university professor who managed to jump through all the hoops and get Japanese nationality. And his university turned round and put him in a Japanese salary, which was a considerable reduction to his previous one.
        Be careful what you wish for.
        Jack, the Japan Alps Brirt

        • Jack_H

          You should see the nonsense we are being told here……..mass migration is vital for the economy,nothing strange about people coming here with no documents and refusing to be fingerprinted.I was just trying to point out that countries far more successful than our own,with dodgier colonial histories take a wholly different view on the issue of migration and are happier,safer and more prosperous.

          • Jackthesmilingblack

            I got up close and personal with HMG’s immigration policy at the beginning of Februrary last. The message was loud and clear: “You will suck up multicultural you second-class subject, and like it”.
            Finally received the Border Force response to my complaint. Said Border Force officer denied he’d called me a racist, and his colleague backed him up. What a pair of liars. Plus corruption, conspiracy, attempted entrapment, potential for blackmail, and consider, if said BF officers are prepared top lie to their superior, they might do the same under oath. So hardly the ideal witnesses.
            Why deny it, why not brazen it out? “Sure, I called him a racist. So what? Racism runs through Britain like Blackpool through rock”. Always the same, the cover up gets um in the end.
            However, it was when a BF officer went into a psychotic episode that things got nasty. Loose cannon, or in the jargon of a psychiatric profession, “a total nutter”.
            The case against Border Force is painfully obvious: Namely letting the wrong people in while keeping the right people out. And wrong people would include the third-world Muslim men that organised the industrial scale rape of British children in northern cities. Immigration officers at LHR may well hold British passports, but they sure aren’t indigenous Brits.
            “Muslims helping brother Muslims” is the obvious assumption.
            Game Over British pals.
            “Do you live in a racist country?”
            Yes, thank God.
            Jack, the Japan Alps Brit

  • WarriorPrincess111111

    If we are forced by some twist of events, to remain in the EU – then the lady will be glad that she was deported! Other than that, let her wait at the very end of the queue of the real undesirables that need to be deported from the UK, and that will take many, many years to clear!

  • Leon Wolfeson

    You wanted tighter controls, complaining now…

  • Jack_H

    Australia solved the problem of undocumented illegal immigrants many years ago,without the production of valid identity documents you could never become a citizen regardless of marriage or any other change in your status,you could also never sponsor a visa for any family to join you……seems fairly sensible.

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