The Muslim Menace to Our British Nationality. For Real!

billindc

Massey...dead on, yet again. Good on ye!!! Fochinell....

Cynical Voter

Well, the bigots and racists were wrong back then and I rather fancy they're wrong again today and that, in 80 years time, people will look back upon this era of scaremongering and paranoia and consider it a grubby, shameful episode.

Prove yourself right...move to Bradford !

Roy

The Irish and the Scots were ethnic caucasian relatives and Christians with long historical associations - in spite of the racissm and fear-mongering they were subjected to, there was no great impediment to integration with British society, which they managed to do pretty well. Fast forward to THIS century - there are a huge percentage of non-anglo Muslim immigrants who have shown little or no desire to integrate into the host society or, if they do, on their own terms - with such delights as the introduction of Sharia law. Unfortunately their religious bigotry makes it easy for British bigots and racists to prove their point - they don't want to be a part of the host society, by the tenets of their religion, they want to take it over and will not cease their efforts until all either convert or submit. Liberal apologists like you mate are a part of the problem with your ill-thought out and wrongly directed commentary. You describe the symptoms, not the disease and in doing so offer no prospect of a cure.

Austin Barry

Well, I hope your somewhat complacent sanguinity proves correct. I fear, however, that the shredded and bleeding flesh of the next, inevitable, sequence of grubby and shameful domestic outrages by British Jihadists may prove rather more difficult to accommodate than you anticipate.

Craig Pond

When are people like you going to realise that you have every right to your opinion, but no right to try and foist it onto the public at large?
How can it be that you seem to fail completely in understanding what democracy means?
If you want to test your bigoted, PC liberal theory, put it to the vote, let the indigenous population have their say in a democratic manner.
Oh no, you won't go for that will you, because you know if you did, the outcome would be diametrically opposed to the garbage you are espousing.

James Hamilton

Since I moved to Scotland last year, and being a very "English" sort of person, I've been warned about a number of people who will "dislike me because I'm English." With a certain inevitability, those I've been warned about have all turned out to be the ones I get on with riproaringly, loud-end-of-the-table, open-another-bottle well.

Don't think I've had a single instance of dislike or hatred, which puts Scotland well ahead of everywhere I've lived in England on that account.

Terry

Mr Massey, you're a fool, to say the least. Another multi-culturalist moral equivalancy advocate that is assisting all Europe in national & cultural suicide.
Geert Wilders has the right idea.

valdemar

I live on Tyneside and the phone book is chock-full of Doyles, Murphs, Reillys etc, and nobody thinks anything of it. Why should they? But one obvious difference is that there was no state intervention in the 1920s to set in amber the differences between religions by 'valuing diversity' instead of equality. Faith schools funded by the state are particularly absurd, as recent legal maneouvres have shown.

Mr Fry

Ridiculous equivalence of two cultures with absolutely no common histories or goals - apart from somehow qualifying as being "immigrants" for the purposes of this woefully under researched article. The Scots did not have the Koran in tow and a vast history based upon it. Bring on the utterly irrelevant moral equivalence between the Bible and the Koran now...

Redvers

Nicely done Alex.

There will be similar examples throughout history, all claiming that the country and its culture are on the verge of destruction, and all hysterical nonsense.

C Powell

Your point is a good one but only up to a point. The big difference though is that the Catholic church did not go round saying that non-Catholics should be killed nor did Catholics or the Irish demand that they be allowed to obey some different legal system or that no-one should be allowed to say offensive things about Catholics nor did they go around burning books which said rude things about Catholics or Irishmen. It is these activities which so trouble those of us who do wonder at the difficulties which all countries in Western Europe have in integrating their Muslim minorities (see Holland, France or Italy, for instance) and who wonder at whether this arises out of a specific Islamic world view and/or the cultures from which those immigrants come. These are sensible questions to be raised and debated and it's not enough in my view simply to respond by saying that we've had previous immigrant-inspired panics which have gone away and so there are no problems this time. There are very real problems and wishing them away by pretending they don't exist or will just vanish without us taking specific action to address them won't do.

Rhoda Klapp

Whether there is or is not (or anything in between) a Muslim threat to the British way of life is a matter to be debated and proven on its own merits. Soemthing that happened in a completely different historical context can't provide any real help. Silly.

Grassmarket

Well, when the Muslims first arrived in Egypt, Byzantium, Persia, Spain, Malaya, the Punjab etc etc etc they arrived as ethnic and religious minority and look how well they assimilated in those countries.

Bradfordian

Right on Cynical voter! I'm a Bradfordian and know the truth. Alex, has no intention of moving to a mono-cultural area like Frizinghall or Manningham because, as he sees it, there's nothing to learn from doing so.

On the other hand, he has a pretty amazing ability to ignore reality. We can only hope he lives long enouh to see his ideas properly tested.

I wonder if he's like so many other right on types I know: all full of "vibrancy" when they're young only to discover they have to move to white areas when their children need schooling. Naturally, this is for "air quality", "house prices", "only place there are jobs" never the dreaded "racism". (These are all direct examples of lefties I know who all moved to live in white areas when their first-born reached 5 or 6 years of age.)

In fact, as their own unwillingness to let daftly-named hippy kids learn alongside "the other" manifests itself, their "commitment" to multi-culturalism becomes more vehement.

Bah!

F Smith

No they are not entirely integrated. And their main settlement areas remain a blight on Scotland, as does their overwhelming support for the Labour party. The division they brought to central Scotland is only slowly beginning to fade away today. That's 4 generations it took. How many do you think for the Islamic version? 100? How much suffering and injustice will take on all sides until then? You are very right to raise the topic. The more openly we talk of it, the more chance for reducing the suffering.

Dirty Euro

Bradford has some nasty people but they are white too. I thin that is just the brutal yorkshire way. People are too in your face in general there. White or asian. I bet the asians just pickesd that from the whites.

McKenzie

A strange combination of utter nonsense mixed with confused historical interpretation. I suspect you are merely trying to provoke mischief with such a craven misrepresentation of a very sensitive subject.

It will probably yield the desired results. I stick by what I said in the comment you refuse to post.

John Thomas

It's the oldest trick in the book to refer to, and quote, a slightly-similar situation from the past, and then use it as a device to morally castigate people who have a reasonable concern. Alex Massey concedes that the circumstances aren't the same, and history does not repeat itself. This is just the kind of patronising middle-class "liberal" condescension that caused many ordinary people to vote for the BNP recently (who else do they have to turn to? Who else will listen to them, and not dismiss them?). Maybe if a few establishment people did listen to them, the BNP rise would be checked and faith in mainstream politics would be restored. As Cynical Voter implies, writers of pieces like this rarely live north of Watford, and are usually too comfortable to experience much reality.

michael

All non believers will go to hell .....Britain to become an islamic state.(council of mosques)
Well, would you want to be seen to be fully integrating or marrying into the community of the lowly caste infidel hellbound gorrah? In Bradford!?
a fate close to death.....

David Miers

Bradfordian
June 26th, 2009 10:14am

How right you are. I would cite Billy Bragg - The Hypocrite of Barking - as a classic example of this. He fled Barking many years ago to live in Burton Bradstock in Dorset - a very white area and not at all the 'vibrant and diverse' community that he constantly tries to foist on the rest of us with his violent UAF friends.

David

"writers of pieces like this rarely live north of Watford"

London of course being completely free from anybody but White Anglo Saxon Protestants......

Stephen Gash

This analogy is false. The more accurate analogy is what happened to Ireland, if historians are to be believed. Doesn't history tell us that there were Protestant Plantations and an attempt to Protestantise Ireland? The Roman Catholic Irish rose up and claimed independence from the colonists.

Previously, the battles in England between freedom-loving Protestants and Papists who constantly attempted to usurp and destabilise society in England and Scotland, led to the Act of Settlement, 1701, which this present most damaging of governments is set to abolish.

Islam's mission is to dominate the world and this mission is stated on a daily basis in thousands of mosques across the muslim world. The situation requires just a little more circumspection in the West, but not much more.

Islamophobia is a healthy condition, it is how you handle it that makes the difference. Either you face up to it and fight the Islamic take-over or you cower before it and permit the encroachment of sharia law, as Western governments are doing. Sharia by stealth is continuing, except it doesn't have to be that stealthy with Islamophobes in government legislating to favour muslims, such as extra welfare benefits for multiple wives.

Fortunately, people have recognised the threat and have voted for parties willing to fight for our own values and against Islamisation.

Islamophobes in the establishment continue to cower and place cordon sanitaires around these parties and have their elected prosecuted under spurious and selectively applied 'hate' laws.

If the majority of people don't want sharia here, and oppose its rise, they are entitled to object and to stop it, just as the Irish stopped the Protestant take-over in Ireland.

Charles

Alex, post WW1 there was great concern about how or whom was to replace a lost generation. The comments of the time which you quote should be viewed in that context. Think I'm wrong? Look at this link to an essay entitled 'The Future of The English Race' by William Inge, Dean of St Paul's and widely read political and religious commentator - http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15249/15249-h/15249-h.htm#THE_FUTURE_OF_THE_ENGLISH_RACE - which includes such lines as "England being now a paradise for human refuse, the offscourings of Europe (170,000 in 1908) take the place of the better stocks, whose position is made artificially unfavourable." Frankly, I don't think we have any right to criticise the people of those times or congratulate ourselves on doing anything better than they did it then.

John Levett

Using your own use of historical comparison, I fail to understand why it was our patriotic duty to defend the British way of life against German invasion but somehow racist to even express concern that the British way of life is under threat from immigration.

Except, of course, that both are manipulations designed to preserve political power..

Simon Newman

"And thank heavens for that, even it there do remain more morons and bigots in grim, west of Scotland and central-belt towns than one would like there to be."

Your own words deny the truth of your argument. Saying that sectarianism is all due to 'morons and bigots' doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Whether you blame the natives or the immigrants, it's real. And the Muslim-Christian gap is much bigger than the Catholic-Protestant gap.

Slim Jim

'Only the most rabid kind of fool would deny that Irish immigrants to Scotland and their descendants are anything other than entirely integrated into Scottish society. And thank heavens for that, even it there do remain more morons and bigots in grim, west of Scotland and central-belt towns than one would like there to be.'

Interesting that these pockets of hate are where the majority of immigrants settled. Why have the bigots and racists not moved on to become pure, virtuous and right on? Maybe something to do with the perpetuation of bigotry enshrined in the educationally apartheid system of schooling in Scotland? The Old Firm? Well, I suppose that the Scottish Parliament could pass laws that will change peoples' views and culture and rewrite history...oh, and as a Scot living in England, I really don't miss it at all!

Maximilian

Ah yes, older readers will never forget the fateful day when Al-Eire terrorists, yelling "The Pope is great", flew their hijacked Sopwith Camels into Holyrood House.

Integrationist

Um, do you actually know any Scottish history? The predictions made - essentially, that there would be a vast, differential growth on one side of the confessional divide, that that side would, in the politicians it threw up, behave in exactly the worst manner of Tammany Hall, and that foreign, sectarian loyalties would shamelessly be paraded by the worst, extremist elements - failed to come true in which regard? Have you read a census since the Great Famine? Have you met anyone in the upper echelon of the Scottish Labour Party? Have you listened to the ditties favoured by Celtic fans? I'm writing all this as someone whose Scottish wife is West Coast Irish catholic from her nose to her toes, and who also thinks that the ugly hysterica whipped up against British muslims is disgusting, cynical and, worse still, counter-productive. But none of that stops me from seeing that, yeah, the nativist claims about what a huge population transfer would mean are, sadly, slightly more to the point than your panglossian effort.

Cathy

What is the British way of life? Is it something to protect from an imaginary enemy who supposedly wants to destroy it? The British, who incidentally, have only existed since the early 18th century, are an extremely paranoid people.

NJ

F Smith @ 10.31AM

"No they are not entirely integrated. And their main settlement areas remain a blight on Scotland, as does their overwhelming support for the Labour party. The division they brought to central Scotland is only slowly beginning to fade away today. "

Thank you.

Although, it will God-knows how many generations before it fades away for where I live (Coatbridge).

TDK

The Irish immigrated to Britain when there was a general consensus that immigrants should conform to some degree and integrate. That we cannot tell Huguenots from the Anglo Saxons tells us this worked. The Irish came later and whilst they have generally integrated they still form distinct groups. This is partly because of the rise of multi-culturalism in the 1970s and later.

In contrast Muslim immigration took place at a time when either multiculturalism was already the dominant ideology or the first generation immigrant was still alive when it came to prominence. This is uncharted territory.

We assume that by encouraging separatist behaviour we can build a better society. That we need not demand any degree of conformity but in contrast by promoting empowerment and consciousness raising we can short circuit the integration process. Consciousness raising takes the form of things like "black history" months. This amounts to a shopping list of both true and false grievances seemingly designed to instill in the student a sense that their historical connection with white society consists of all loss and no gain. Sometimes this is becomes absurd - West Africans being victims of the Slave trade, for example.

Given this modern approach to integration it's hard to understand why more minorities don't blow up tube trains.

Our ancestors at least debated the pros and cons of immigration. Today we shy away from the potential negatives for fear of being cast out of polite society for racism. Your simple minded attack on those who would discuss the matter amounts to complacency.

I'm inclined to favour some immigration but I recognise that it will change society. You fail to even acknowledge that. You also ignore that (a) the amount of immigration vastly exceeds all previous waves combined and (b) we have a new policy for dealing with it.

Perhaps you'd care to explain how the current policy of multiculturalism will not lead to a disaster.

MikeF

You've used the words 'bigots' or 'bigotry' four times in a fairly short piece without once even giving us a definition of what you mean by the term. Frankly this little short of name-calling. Words like that should be used sparingly and according to a strict definition, not in the - frankly - rather lazy and complacent way they have been here.

CCTV

I bet the asians just pickesd that from the whites.

Ah, they do so look up to the White Man and copy his ways. Poor souls know no better !

Ah Dirty Euro, how pure your racism sounds !

Clive

Who can say the original quotes were not correct? Scotland's health, drug, and crime statistics would be vastly improved if Irish Glasgow did not exist. Empirically, the UK is demonstrably much weakened compared to the Victorian turn of the century. Why not consider that demographic changes are in part responsible when all the evidence is compatible?

AC

Apples and oranges; entirely different sets of actors, parameters and agendas. No comparison possible.

biggestaspidistra

one word for Mr Massie: Oldham.

Spend a month there one weekend and write this stuff again.

David Burns

From Wiki:
A 2006 article stated that sectarian incidents reported to police (largely verbal abuse) increased by 50% to 440 over an 18-month period. The article stated that 64% of the 726 cases between 1 January 2004 and 30 June 2005 were motivated by hatred against Catholics, and by hatred against Protestants in most of the remaining cases.[5] Steve Bruce of Aberdeen University, the author of the report also stated that the figures showed that religious intolerance was evenly shared among Protestants and Catholics, as the two-to-one ratio of incidents was roughly the same as the size of those populations in the west of Scotland.

Religious hatred is alive and well in Glasgow.

Stephen

How little some of us appear to understand the divisions that used to exist between Catholic and Protestant. Neither, before Vatican 2, saw the other as legitimate. One held allegiance, at some level, to an authority outside the boundary of the State. Both preferred to look at what divided them rather than what united them. Common caucasian features counted for little. And of course, a few centuries ago both were quite happy to burn each other on these islands and on the European mainland.

So, although Alex, as he admits, is drawing a comparison that is not a neat parallel, it is informative. It is possible, he suggests, that in the future we will wonder what the fuss was about. There is movement to be made on all sides of this debate. But perhaps by focussing on what unites us rather than what divides us - like our common humanity, our desire to work, bring up children and care for our families - we can live together.

Liberal twaddle? Perhaps. But us 'christains' used to do appalling things to each other and, unless we want a repeat in which us 'humans' treat each other in appalling ways we might want to find a positive solution to the problem. At the very least we might try to go beyond Muslim = Bad.

Integrationist

I'd just like to reiterate, I'm not with the Muslim bashers: I'm just not with the syrup Massie doles out viz what the consequences of Irish Catholic, more or less internal migration to Scotland were either. It didn't lead to civil war, but it did change, sans consent, Scotland, and not - pace curry houses, or even music, art, science, letters or public morals - discernably for the better.

I appreciate why the milder souls among you will see what I've written as being nakedly anti-Catholic, or at least, anti-C19th Catholic *Irish* at any rate. It's not meant to be, and any such failure of perception is of course, in truth, a failure of expression on my part. To be more pedantic still, what I'm trying to say is not that the whole thing - that wave of migration, and its still evident effects - has been bad. Rather I want to try and rebut the tosh from Massie, childish when it's not just sentimental, that the whole thing has been Good.

Given a.) a choice & b.) a practical, humane way to implement the exercise of that choice, who actually contends that C19th Scots wouldn't, with our hindsight, have said, 'so that's what's coming? Thanks, but no'?

[PS not Massie's Gig, but for the love of God (Presbyterian or Episcopalian in the first instance ....), could the Barclay's not possibly invest in marginally better IT tech? Specifically, how about a 'preview' box?]

Lord Falmouth

What a silly comparison. Have you lived in a large muslim community? I have. Friendly they were but mix and blend? Hardly.

Ian C

The 'liberal' attitude to immigration is not much use to those who live on the planet, today, when it tells us all will be well in 80 years time.

However, you do have a point that in the main integration will happen successfully.

The difficulty for Britain is multi-faceted. There are two main issues: -

1) Quality of life today. Adding cities of 5m people every decade is simply impractical and has already had a devastating effect. Why can't we tone down our ambition and stop trying to be one of the largest economies in the world. Lets shrink the size of the population to one that fits a better quality of existence. In English cities, at least, there is no more room.

2) Challenging our own population to do the work that immigrants are happy to do that some among us are not. Why do we tolerate our own not getting 'on their bikes' and make it easy for them by importing those who do? It is a very strange way to run a country. And not in its long term best interests.

Alf Tupper C.R.O.F.

Dr Massie.

Maybe a horse-drawn Ireland of 4 million people just didn't have the capacity to do what 160 million Pakistanis can do and are doing with ease and with airliners and with 'diversity'.

Not to mention the many other 'communities' we now host?

This is to cite just the vast imbalance in numbers which you fail to account for in your analysis.

Do we need to go on to compare the differences in intent between the two movements of people and the very different world political stage?

Please wake up.

Linda Smith

Unlike Muslims, Catholic Irish immigrants did not profess a religion that required its adherents as a religious imperative to seek to replace the existing Law of the Land with a discriminatory legal system, Sharia.

John Gillman

Numbers and proportions (of Muslims and migrants) in many English towns and cities now make those centres answer to the description, ''swamped''. Check the ''Migration Watch'' website. Note that we are in the vortex of a process, getting far worse. The English are moving/have moved out. Why should they be subjected to this social force? What interest for them, what purpose served? Utterly foreign people in mind and spirit who in such huge numbers are fashioning a different society altogether. Taking exception to this monstrous invasion is not bigotry but common sense. Why on earth is it virtue to want to see one's towns and cities submerged by something unwanted and inimical to one's own way of life? Do we have to go back to philosophy and history books to tell us that ''civilistion is a thing of the mind'', not genes or skin colour, and that mankind is emphatically not composed of one mind, or culture, or religion, or politics, or ambition, or vision, or morality, or language, or art, or set of manners, or code of behaviour? Well, apparently, we do, for the ''liberals'' amongst us seem to know no history or anthropology, and ignore the passionate and bloody struggles, or the bitter tensions, between nations and peoples, that go on up to this very moment, around the world, because they have these (philosophical) differences in belief and determined vision, and find their particular post worth fighting and dying for.
For us, reasonable, law-abiding, decent, liberal, souls, obedient or subservient to outrageous government policy, find ourselves the victim of our very virtues, of tolerance and niceness. The prime task of government is to protect us (its citizens) from harm, whether originating without or within the nation. Yet, government is the very agent of the assault. It has conscientiously ignored the interests of those to whom it owes a duty of protection. And what of the civilised standards of those who have come in in such numbers? What to teach us? What philosophy, what manners, what arts, what science, what skills, what new morality, what new pastimes and games, what insights into the human character and its predicament? To ask these questions is to evoke a grim smile. And wealth? That is usually the clincher for the modern perspective. Alas, the recent report from the Lords put that at no advantage. And disadvantage? Billions must in fact have been spent in housing, teaching, hospitalising, paying benefits to, millions of newcomers over the past 12 years. And in this huge demographic and social upheaval, what public discussion, especially from our representatives in Parliament. Alas. All are struck dumb. Nothing to say, or completely unable to say it. Terrified of being called nasty names, because they have not the wit to think their way through this shocking impasse. ''Why, obloquy will follow if I am thought of as racist''. Well, as the term is now thrown around, not as one who looks to eugenics for a better breed of man, or who is determined on persecution, but as one who generally though not fanatically, prefers his own kind when it comes to ordinary living, it seems that all mankind is in fact ''racist''. Immigrants when they come congregate with their own sort..so, those from Bangladesh find themselves with others of the same community, and Pakistanis, Somalis, and so on. All then, by our analysed definition, racists. And of course they congregate in this way, because they want the very people they can immediately understand, speak the same language as, interact with in a natural fashion. That is how mankind is shaped. So, if this process of mass immigration continues at its present rate, we shall soon be faced with a country balkanised by fragments of cultures from around the globe, all demanding their own segment of political power. It will however be a nation no longer, because it will have lost all idea of itself as a unity, all notion of what holds it together and makes it cohere. The process of bringing minds and spirits together to create a sense of belonging, of sharing a common civilisation, takes hundreds of years. Does anyone in ours any longer think it is worth standing up for?

Steve.W

Integration just happens, all you have to do is wait? Alex Massie should read the history of Quebec, then take a trip there.

Dirty Euro

CCTV : It is not racism. I am white you idiot. I can say what I like. How on earth is it racist to say Yorkshire has a brutal rudeness issue? Grow up.
Is it it now racist to question manners. You are an idiot.
How odd that people are allowed to make racist comments about other people's races. When I cannot say stuff about my own race. Grow up. No wonder there is so much racist bullying when you are called a racist if you questionn bullies.

Lee Jakeman

Immigration is a real threat. Stop trying to water it down.

Salamanda Palagandafan

Dirty Euro.

I am a Yorkshireman you have never met. Yet without experience of me as a person, you see fit to credit me and everyone in Yorkshire, with negative traits.

How does that work then?

HairyNoddy

I've also lived in Bradford and can confirm that immigration has ruined it. Before I lived in Bradford though, I was one of those idiots like Dirty Euro. I would have scorned anyone who criticised immigrants or immigration as being 'racist'.

The likes of Dirty Euro (and my former naive self) assume that they would be able to handle living in a 'ethnically diverse' place like Bradford better than the 'racist' whites who currently live there and protest about what's been done to their city. This is because they bestow upon themselves superhuman levels of 'tolerance' and 'intelligence' and a 'love of diversity'.

If only the whites of Bradford as 'intelligent' and 'tolerant' as Dirty Euro, then racism would cease to exist, right Dirty?

If immigration had been subject to a true cost/benefit analysis, it would have ended long ago.

Blenkiron

You should have read Buchan a bit more: in GREENMANTLE, he writes the following:

"Islam is a fighting creed, and the mullah still stands in the pulpit with the Koran in one hand and a drawn sword in the other."

"Once we know what is the menace (Islam and Jihad) we can meet it. As long as we are in the dark it works unchecked and we may be too late. The war must be won or lost in Europe."

As to some prophets being wicked, I'll give you that one. The question is, is the the Spectator up to exposing the most wicked of false prophets --- Muhammad?

If your magazine can't, or won't, print the facts about Muhammad and Islam, then Britain is finished and the war lost because Britain is 'the canary in the mineshaft' of Western civilisation.

Jask

Yes indeed, those Irish catholics have integrated very well, haven't they?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8121131.stm

Dirk

Ireland and Scotland were invaded by the British NO? Thus their hostility was normal, when did England invade the countries that Muslim Immigrants come from??

Multiculturalism kills the host's cultural, that's what the socialist want-- to kill your culture and replace it with marxist ideology and the Nanny Nation mindset. If they kill British Culture they can replace it with inferior cultural practices that require vast government agencies to administer to. Socialism needs society to feel victimized, thus they find perpetually aggrieved groups to pander to ergo the Islamists are naturals at sniveling and being perpetually offended.

Good luck Englandstan, a day late and a dollar short in the debate because NuLabour sold England's culture to the ME to ensure Eurabia rises out of the ashes.

Bob

You truely ruely miss the the point completely, eh Alex....

Dirty Euro

Dirk : Scotland is an integral part of Britain. How can we be invaded by Britain. It is like Paris being invaded by France. Plus Britain did conquer Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and many other muslim nations. I thought everyone knew that, the Empire.

HairyNoddy You are an idiotic offensive individual. I have no doubt you would be racist to many other groups all your life.

mary karas

not so much a comment as a question-
with reference to the recent "Harem Law" ( multiple wives can be brought into Britain and will be eligible for benefits") Can anyone tell me please how I can get a copy of the actual Act of Parliament on this
thanks

marisol

It is annoying when people blame the Catholic schools for the segregation in Scotland. The bigotry and racism existed before the Catholic schools so how can the Catholic schools be to blame? Catholics were not welcome in Protestant schools - the article kind of gives that idea away. Also what about the migration of Protestants to Nothern Ireland from England and Scotland. They have also caused a few problems - wouldn't you say?