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Despite Pundits' Best Efforts, Afghanistan Stubbornly Refuses to be Obama's Vietnam

Tuesday, 6th October 2009

So, you see, Barack Obama is a Democratic president just like Jack Kennedy and LBJ and, right, there's a war going on in Aghanistan which is in asia, just like Vietnam! So the parallels are just uncanny. Right? Wrong.

It's time, people. for a comprehensive ban on making facile comparisons between Afghanistan and Vietnam. Prospect's Tom Streithorst is only the latest fellow to warn that Afghanistan "could destroy Obama’s presidency, as Vietnam did Johnson’s."

This seems extremely unlikely. Let's trot through some of the reasons:

1. 50,000 Americans died in Vietnam. The current figure for Afghanistan? 796. There may be quite a number of troops involved but Afghanistan is, by the standards of these things, a small and non-deadly war. US deaths are running at a little over 100 a year. Absent soaring casualty rates body bags aren't going to end the war.

2. Anyway, the US military is the most respected institution in the United States. This was not the case in the 1960s and 70s. More importantly, it's an all-volunteer force. No-one is being drafted to go and die in the Hindu Kush. You want to make Afghanistan really unpopular? Reinstate the draft. Not gonna happen. At the moment, however, and for most people it's someone else's war.

3. One of the ugly secret truths about the war: elite opinion is much more engaged with and concerned by what's happening in Afghanistan than is the general public. Most people don't care that much about it. The war doesn't make the news every night. It's a very long way away and not much ever seems to happen. There are few battles, only the day to day grind of counter-insurgency. For a war, it lacks drama. Most people just aren't that into it. This is true in Britain too: when was the last time you talked about Aghanistan over dinner? And how much attention did it receive at the party conferences? Precisely. Seen any mammoth anti-war demonstrations lately? No, me neither.

4. One way or another and in some shape or form, the US is going to be involved in the region for years to come. No-one is enthused by this, but nor is anyone surprised. Heck, we're still in Bosnia. The argument, in as much as there is one, concerns the scope and scale of that involvement in Afghanistan, not the involvement itself. At the moment, as Marc Lynch says, we're muddling through and that's not so very terrible. Or at least, it's not the worst thing.

5. Public concern with the war may be rising but while wide it's not, I think, deep. But while Osama bin Laden remains at large there'll still be some residual support for the conflict. Voters get the link between 9/11 and Afghanistan. They also understand the propaganda consequences of abandoning Afghanistan. No-one can be happy about what's happening but not many people have many better, plausible alternatives. This is not like Vietnam. Afghanistan is not tearing society apart at home, is it? No.

6. If anything is going to "destroy" Obama's presidency it's jobs and the economy. Unemployment looks as though it may reach 10%. That's not good. We're returned to an era in which it is, once again, the economy stupid.

Anyway, if you must compare Afghanistan to previous conflicts then Vietnam provides an almost comically inapt comparison. Much better - and more original! - to note that it's much more like the counter-insurgency war and occupation of the Philippines more than a century ago. Even then it's not an exact comparison. But it is at least a better one than the tired, cliched, inaccurate and endless comparisons with Vietnam.


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Mailman

October 6th, 2009 2:08pm Report this comment

Perhaps a more apt comparision would be between Carter and Obama.

Actually, there are some differences. Obama, unlike Carter, was handed victory on a plate in Iraq. Carter had to deal with the fall out from Vietnam.

On the other hand, unlike Carter, Obama has been given a battle hardened and experienced army capable of great things...whereas Carter had a demoralised, run down army incapable of dealing with Iran.

Yes I agree that comparing [insert war here] with Vietnam is what lefties like to do to justify never going to war.

The problem for Obama is that for the first time in his life he has to show some real leadership. The time for pretty speaches ended back in January...now he needs to make the tough decisions and either support the General HE put in place to review the Afghan strategy or go with what his VP is telling him.

What he cant do, is dither any longer because the longer he dithers the more soldiers will die.

Also interesting is that Obama has only now found time to speak to the General HE put in place...but only have HIS General gave a speach in London at the start of the week.

What does this tell you about Obama? Remember that he thought it far more important to go to a meeting with the IOC to pitch for Chicago than to meet with the chap HE put in place to review his resourcing requests.

Regards

Mailman

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