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What BNP Bounce?

Saturday, 24th October 2009

Contra good Brother Hoskin, I'm not terribly troubled by this YouGov poll:

The survey found that 22 per cent of voters would 'seriously consider' voting for the BNP in a future local, general or European election. This included four per cent who said they would 'definitely' consider voting for the party, three per cent who would 'probably' consider it, and 15 per cent who said they were 'possible' BNP voters."

The poll, at least as reported by the Telegraph, does not find one in five voters considering the BNP. It finds that 15% of voters might, hypothetically speaking, consider casting a hypothetical vote for the BNP. In other words: they won't. It is, in any case, a leading question since, asked if you would consider something many people will say that, gosh, yes, they are prepared to consider something no matter what that something might be. People are nice that way.

And so, on the back of their biggest publicity coup, like ever, the BNP's version of a post-conference bounce amounts to a measly 4% of voters "definitely" prepared to consider voting for them. Bully for them!

By my reckoning, this means Britons are more likely believe in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny than to consider seriously the idea voting for the BNP. 


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Sam ARMSTRONG

October 24th, 2009 12:42pm Report this comment

Oh Alex, take your mop head out of the sand. However you scrutinise the QT aftershock, the fact that people are saying they might vote BNP is a definite change from what they were saying this time last week, when HARDLY ANYONE would have admitted that.

PS. You claim to know how many Brits believe in the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny. Source please? If no source, stop childishly deflecting from real events and write a decent piece.

DavidDP

October 24th, 2009 12:46pm Report this comment

"is a definite change from what they were saying this time last week, when HARDLY ANYONE would have admitted that."#

A link to that poll would be welcome.

Noa Zrk

October 24th, 2009 1:01pm Report this comment

And, like Alan Johnson, I assume that you will not be losing any sleep over immigration and assimilation? But feel free to continue playing the man and the party and not the issues and consequences. until, as with Nick Griffin on QT, you find your right to express them denied by the mob.

Ian Davies

October 24th, 2009 1:48pm Report this comment

Oh Alex you muppet, can't you see what is happening in our proud country. The silent majority have had enough of the Loony left wing run media. Your denial shows you up for what you really are which is not a true jounalist but a fat cat multi-ratial anti british Biggot. Read the forums

DavidDP

October 24th, 2009 2:45pm Report this comment

The point about Griffin on QT was that he did express his views. He just expressed nasty ones rather poorly.

John

October 24th, 2009 4:06pm Report this comment

Another foolish piece from Alex Massie.

The fact is that the BNP have received a considerable bounce from the BBC's, blatant but foolish, attempted hatchet job on Griffin and there's no use pretending otherwise.

This bounce will be strengthened by the latest news about the Labour government deliberately deceiving the voters over their covert plans to turn Britain "multi-cultural" through mass immigration.

It's time for Cameron to grasp the nettle before the BNP really take off.

Mr Commonsense

October 24th, 2009 4:29pm Report this comment

Statistical analysis is slightly more logical than journalistic ability which is always open to personal bias.Using your numbers the hypothetical 15% would give the BNP a range of 7%-22% the top range of which is on a par with the Libs and only 5%behind the Labs.Considering the concentration of BNP support in the North maybe the elitists fea of genuine British patriots in Parliament is soon to be reality.

Mike

October 24th, 2009 5:42pm Report this comment

According to the Cambridge English Dictionary a fascist is someone who supports fascism, a person of the far right in politics (whatever that means) and someone who doesn't allow opposition. Additionally, Fascism is a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control and being extremely proud of country and race, and in which political opposition is not frustrated or not allowed. Ring any bells ? Peter Hain, the UAF and other anarchist oppose freedom of speech and would use force to enforce it. That slippery toad Jack Straw had a pensioner arrested on anti-terrorism charges for heckling at a party conference. And Blair, just like Hitler when he invaded Poland, used manufactured evidence to justify his invasion of Iraq. About the only palatable aspect of fascism is being proud of ones country and race something this government is seriously lacking in. There are many facets of fascism but many fascists are very much alive inside the Labour party.

ndm

October 24th, 2009 7:26pm Report this comment

I would love to see the correlation between between BNP supporters and Daily Mail readers. Other than the artfullness of its presentation, I didn't see much difference in the lines pushed by the Daily Mail and the BNP. Of course, it could be that the other tabloids are just as bad.

Anne Wotana Kaye

October 24th, 2009 10:34pm Report this comment

Something interesting is taking place on the BBC's blogger's "Have Your Say". This extremely politically correct mouthpiece of Nu Labour, from which I have been banned for breaking House Rules, seems to be having some sort of nervous breakdown, or at the least a crisis as regards its policies. Overwhelmingly the majority of bloggers are disgusted with the BBC programme on which Griffin appeared. The main bogey man it seems is not Nick Griffin, but the vile Jack Straw. The deliberate selection of audience has been noted, and this is by bloggers not exactly noted for political savvy. The general consensus appears to be that the average British person has had enough of being treated as second-class citizens in their own country. If anybody has a spare moment, it is worthwhile checking it out.

david baker

October 25th, 2009 8:25am Report this comment

Just a few thoughts:
1. Those who have most to fear from immigration are those with below average
I.Q and lack of ambition. Unskilled human labour has never been worth less than now.

2. Those who are reasonably well educated and productive benefit from this,ie products and services are cheaper.

3. Some people are not likely to succeed in this economy. People tend to find a level in life and paying them not to work will not make them more intelligent. It may stop them causing too much trouble.

4. When the BNP wins a seat it tells us all
where we should avoid going to live.

5. After immigrants are succesful they tend to moderate their religious views.

6. Those areas where the BNP are most successful suffer more from a lack of ambitious,productive people than a surplus of immigrants.

7.BNP voters,like many Daily Mail readers, are full of self-pity,resentment and rage at their failure to achieve in life. They
cannot see that many of those who come to this country are just doing their best to further their own prospects. They could do the same if they chose too.

Rhoda Klapp

October 25th, 2009 8:50am Report this comment

1. Those who have most to fear from immigration are those with below average
I.Q and lack of ambition. Unskilled human labour has never been worth less than now.

Well sod 'em, they're poor and thick.

2. Those who are reasonably well educated and productive benefit from this,ie products and services are cheaper.

Because money is the only thing.

3. Some people are not likely to succeed in this economy. People tend to find a level in life and paying them not to work will not make them more intelligent. It may stop them causing too much trouble.

Well sod 'em, they are poor and thick and betrayed by the education system. Let's just have people from the right-hand side of the bell curve.

4. When the BNP wins a seat it tells us all
where we should avoid going to live.

..where the immigrants are? Or where the musims are?

5. After immigrants are succesful they tend to moderate their religious views.

Glasgow Airport? Doctor?

6. Those areas where the BNP are most successful suffer more from a lack of ambitious,productive people than a surplus of immigrants.

Sod 'em....

7.BNP voters,like many Daily Mail readers, are full of self-pity,resentment and rage at their failure to achieve in life. They
cannot see that many of those who come to this country are just doing their best to further their own prospects. They could do the same if they chose too.

Proof? Daily Mail readers? What? Oh sod 'em.

Paul

October 27th, 2009 3:22am Report this comment

Racism begins with our families, parents, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, grandparents, people we admire, respect and love.

However, as we grow and mature we come to the realization that what we were told by our family when we were children were slanted lies base on their prejudices. We realize that most people are like ourselves and not so different and want the same things, like a home, steady work, a Medicare plan and schools for our children (if you travel you will see this). We realize that most people are of good hearts and goodwill.

This reminds me of a parable from the good book where a Levite and Priest come upon a man who fell among thieves and they both individually passed by and didn’t stop to help him.

Finally a man of another race came by, he got down from his beast, decided not to be compassionate by proxy and got down with the injured man, administered first aid, and helped the man in need.

Jesus ended up saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had the capacity to project the “I” into the “thou,” and to be concerned about his fellow man.

You see, the Levite and the Priest were afraid, they asked themselves, “If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?”

But then the Good Samaritan came by. And he reversed the question: “If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?”

That’s the question before us. The question is not, “If I stop to help our fellow man (immigrant) in need, what will happen to me?” The question is, “If I do not stop to help our fellow man, what will happen to him or her?” That’s the question.

This current climate of blaming others for our woes is not new. We have had this before and we have conquered it.

Remember “Evil flourishes when good men (and women) do nothing”. Raise your voices with those of us who believe we are equal and we can win this battle again.

Ralph Musgrave

October 28th, 2009 5:50pm Report this comment

Paul's sanctimonious little sermon above suggests there is something wrong with racism. Racism is defined in the Concise Oxford dictionary as the belief that one race is superior to another. Jews have got far more Nobel Prizes per head of peopulation than some other races. What are we supposed to do: pretend this statistic does not exist? I see nothing wrong with the above belief, as long as it does not lead to unacceptable treatment of any allegedly "inferior" race.

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