An opportunity to fix the broken society

michael m

I agree- the Conservatives should get really very angry- and show it- about the state of the law and order policy of this Governemnet It is disappointing that yet again we did not have any Conservative front bencher on the media- whilst IDS is ok, we need to beef up the attack- remember how Blair exploited ruthlessly the Dunblane tragedy Brown wringing of hands yesterday in the guise of statesmanship was frankly hypocritical- he has helped to preside over this catastophe I could go on generally about the lack of any front bench reaction to recent news where this Government- which really is the last one in sheep's clothing- should be held to account How many open goals are we going to miss? Where is the front bench?

steve

The public are hopping mad about crime & immigration but the Conservatives aren't. I just heard Cameroon interviewed on TalkSport, he thinks "it'll be difficult & will take time to fix societal problems". A couple of points: (1) He's not angry. (2) It's VERY EASY to fix the problems with zero tolerance + harsh prisons.

Anthony G

'Anarchy in the UK' wasn't Cameron's phrase. It was actually the Sun that used it first and Cameron borrowed it.

Tiberius

Didn't the Sex Pistols elevate the term to new heights originally?

Perry

Yes, - all well and good as far as it goes. But one is tempted to fret that before the *Broken Society* (sic) can be fixed, –the Loyal (well, rather limpid) Opposition FIRST needs attention. Then perhaps we might get progress. AND, - regarding the Hospital nonsense a day or so ago, - who did the research and co-ordinated the presentation? Tamzin? or some kid fresh out of a NooLayba *University* (sic)?

Tariq

I don't know what the solution to this dreadful problem might be, but I'm reasonably certain harsh prisons aren't a part of it. The trouble with prisons is that the public generally doesn't want to know what happens to their inmates. Consequently, prisoners' suffering has no deterrent effect. Also, people who survive harsh prison regimes tend to become heroes, not pariahs, to would-be gangsters.

David

I think what is interesting is that Cameron used the phrase before the shooting. That received coverage, and not in a necessarily positive light, but with the shooting it has obtained something of the zeitgeist.

Teenage boys are territorial. When I was teaching, I made a point of walking around the classroom. I did this to claim the territory of the classroom as my own. I could then stop and talk to the pupils and develop a relationship with them and learn what they were up to. This broke down the them and us relationship between teacher and pupil. The police need to be walking on the streets. In this way they claim the steets as their territory. They can talk to the puplic and discover what they're up to. They can break down the them and us relationship between the police and the public.

James

Teenage boys are territorial. When I was teaching, I made a point of walking around the classroom. I did this to claim the territory of the classroom as my own. I could then stop and talk to the pupils and develop a relationship with them and learn what they were up to. This broke down the them and us relationship between teacher and pupil. The police need to be walking on the streets. In this way they claim the steets as their territory. They can talk to the puplic and discover what they're up to. They can break down the them and us relationship between the police and the public.

John Whitworth

That stuff about teenage territory accounts for the squalor of their bedrooms I suppose. What James says seems to me true and wise. Our police are failing us most abjectly. They are becoming no more than overpaid clerks (and too often jumped-up little jobsworths to boot.)

Chris

Good Lord, nobody's blamed the current state of Britain on 'Fatcha' yet!

John Whitworth

Yes they have. Some nerdy leftie on Any Questions. In Liverpool natch