Leaky government

David

Oh come on, any GCSE history student could tell you that in times of economic hardship crime rises and extremist politics benefit.

Hardly insightful.

Why the Home Office is briefing this is more intersting. More money in the PBR?

Peter Wilson

Momentum building towards the endgame of Broon’s demise I presume, making life difficult for Broon before the conference and also overshadowing his much anticipated economic measures this week?

Austin Barry

"There is evidence that ... experiencing racism is one of the factors that can lead to people becoming terrorists." No chance then that experiencing terrorism is one of the factors that can lead to people becoming racist? Politically correct myopia yet again.

mac

But it's only a draft, so Ms Smith can now tell us that it's not her opinion, the civil servant who drafted it is being too pessimistic, he/she didn't have the 'full facts' blah, blah, blah. "Blindingly obvious", really.

Jumbo O' Reilly

Looks like they're still in denial on the real causes of terrorism then.

GS London

What Autumn Re-launch?

How, and why, is the man who is supposed to be the most powerful in the UK being allowed another chance?

And moreover, why is the press receptive to this idea?

Roland twentyten

David
September 1st, 2008 11:42am

Oh come on, any GCSE history student could tell you that in times of economic hardship crime rises and extremist politics benefit.
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Yeah, but what makes you think the agenda of GCSE history hasn't been got at by the PC brigade? In fact the people who are thrown out of honest jobs aren't likely to quickly resort to crime. The ones who've always been on benefits (no, not all of them, just the criminals) won't need to rob any more. In fact this is a lefty fantasy, that poverty causes crime. A lot of the EU immigrants will go home if there's no work too. I see no need for anyone who isn't extremist/racist already to turn now. The damage is done.

In fact the whole thing is silly, as it stands. Idon't know what Smith is up to, and I don't care. I say again, no excitement here, storm in a teacup, GB will carry on to the end, with support from Labour MPs who stand to gain literally hundreds of kiloquid at the expense of the nation they are supposed to serve. Bastards. Scum...mutter mutter ,,,,,,.....

Trumpeter Lanfried

David @ 11.42 AM. Don't agree. A hundred years ago we had desparate poverty and (compared with today) very little crime.

biggestaspidistra

What if these leaks and admissions are not a 'tremendous blow for Gordon Brown' at all, but that he is complicit in them. We've all known, whatever else we were told, that the economy is in its worst state for probably 80 years and nothing new in Jackie Smith's report. Have they not sent us a letter to tell us what they could not tell us in person? Basically it's rioting in the streets and a long depression. Stand by for a 'leak' about soup kitchens.

Sixty Years

Let's hope team GB don't go bonkers and stuff more debt on the balance sheet. Look at South Korea right now! Is Britain heading onto the rocks?
The Credit Crisis has plenty of miles to run - so get rid of your debt, sell your equities, and if you have a second home or a buy-to-let seriously consider cutting your losses - as it is going to get very stormy and many will lose it all....sweet Cassandra.

David C

Is this a real 'leak' or a planted piece of misdirection, as Mac thinks, or propaganda to soften us up for more laws.

As for 'far right extremism' there is fat chance of a military junta here. More likely is Nazism, which was the child of the disinherited Left.

Nicholas

Hmm, I wonder what the national socialist definition of "far right extremism" is? Coffee House bloggers maybe? Are we all being softened up for 42 days?

Patricia.Jarrow

So the sort of people portrayed in tonights' updated Undercover Mosques programme on Channel 4 play no part in the rise of the far right?
Racism is a two way street, a fact that our Govt. and Police 'Service' seem unable or unwilling to recognise.

Verity

Austin Barry - Well said that man!

Despite the best efforts of the Labour Governmnt, ethnics are still a small minority and they are accorded abnormal - not to say viciously manipulative - amounts of consideration. Minorities who are uncomfortable living among the vast indigenous population should be given £5,000 in exchange for a swab of their DNA and a retinal photograph and put on a transport boat.

Maybe the foul Jacqui Smith could be bundled onto the boat along with them, to spread one-wordler goodwill, gross stupidity and infantile bossiness somewhere else.

The indigenes and the well-settled minorities are all that matter in to our national welfare.

I also agree with Trumpeter. Either Jackie Smith is too stupid to get up in the morning unassisted by carers, or she is speaking of the "minorities". Certainly not the indigenes.

Where is the godawful David Cameron in all thise? Why don't the Tories get rid of this inadequate, over-ambitious nasty piece of work?

Patricia Jarrow. They know. They know. These primitives were imported and given their heads for this specific reason.

Augustus

Leaked warnings to be wary of this and that, but where are the warnings to the trade unions? That's what I want to know.

kinglear

I like the phrase " acquisitive crimes". Surely this lot should be done for their acquisitive crimes of huge pensions and massive payments for buggering everything up.

Hysteria

where are the Tory Party in all this? they are supposed to be Her Majesties loyal opposition - yet they seem curiously silent....or am I not tuned to the correct wavelength?

Verity

Hysteria - my post asking where the hell David Cameon is wasn't up when you posted.

David Cameron is the biggest con in British politics and I cannot undestand whey everyone does not see right through him. He is transparent. Wants his feet under he top table in Brussels. I loathe him and for what he is allowing to be done to my dear country without demur, I wish him personal ill.

TGF UKIP

Hysteria, when the Heir to the Vicar of St Albion is annointed by Polly as High Priest of Political Correctness too, he and Arch Deacon Hilton will regard that as the apogee of the Cameron Tories transition.

mckenzie

So we have had years of easy credit for every man and his dog, which has meant good business for all. Now the credit has dried up, that is to say now pay back time has arrived, everyone is stretched out to the hilt and defaulting like there is no tomorrow.
So the share traders have to divert there exploitative dealings elsewhere, hmm, where can they possibly go? FOOD - ENERGY - WATER ETC.

So we will be heading into a time of no hoc, low production, which means EXPENSIVE! After all there are mega profits to maintain regardless.
Sadly though, this will mean desperate times for the bottom feeders. And there is even a limit to how many they can allow to starve to death, after all, no bottom feeders means nobody to exploit and maintain mega profits!
The last time this happened the only way out was to launch a lunatic upon the world in order to create a fresh start. So here we go again. Even with the opening up of China as an outlet for production, things have still gone tits up. Lets face it, capitalism is a boom bust system. I for one have enjoyed the good years, and cannot for the life of me suggest anything else as an alternative. But by Christ when the cycle reaches it's zenith, the renewal process is brutal. I feel sorry for the younger people, I have had a good blast out of it. ENJOY.

Verity

Hysteria - David Cameron is doing what he has been doing for the last two years. He is keeping his powder dry. So when Labour gets back in, he will have some nice dry powder.

I would prefer Labour back for a suicidal encore than a fresh "Conservative" (to give it its formal name) government bubbling with fresh destructive programmes. Frankly, I think you would do better to go down to any Tory Association and choose a name out of a hat and make that person PM. If they're in an Association, at least they're a Tory.

mitch

Armed police anyone? followed by council workers,dog wardens and uncle tom cobbly and all.

Verity

" ... evidence that ... experiencing racism is one of the factors that can lead to people becoming terrorists."

Let's see the evidence, fat chops. I think you're lying again. Although I do not your sleazy saving phrasing: "There is evidence [WHERE?] that experiencing racism is ONE OF the factors that CAN lead to people becoming terrorists." In other words, this sentence is a pile of horseshit.

Why not mention that another factor that MIGHT lead to people of a specific religion becoming terrorists is the call by the imams for conversion of the "infidel" by the sword. In fact, this seems to lead to people becoming terrorists in countries where the races are almost the same, as in India.

That this moron is a government minister in Britain is absolutely shameful.

Why hasn't HM sacked them?