YouGov: the Tories on course for 150 majority

C Powell

Please tell us some of the names (ones we might have heard of) who will lose their jobs. We need something to cheer us up during this Indian summer (not).

Susan Hill

Don`t get too excited.. remember Dave is in the mink- lined pocket of Zac globally-warmed Goldsmith.

Tiberius

It is true that the swing needed for a Cameron majority is very large in historical terms. But it is also true, in historical terms, that no Government has been so utterly useless. New Labour is reaping the rewards of its duplicity and vacuity, and without the Blair-coloured lipstick (to borrow a fashionable phrase), the pig merely has a distasteful Brown appearance.

David Lindsay

Who cares?

In senior positions behind the scenes, and thus conveniently outside the parliamentary process (unless, which cannot be ruled out, peerages were created in order to confer Ministerial office), any Cameron Government would certainly now feature:

Matthew Taylor, Head of the Number 10 Policy Unit under Blair, and mate of Ed Vaizey’s;

Julian Le Grand, a former Blair adviser on health policy; and

Ken Anderson, another old Blair adviser on health, now based at UBS.

It would also very probably feature Geoff Mulgan, a former Downing Street Director of Policy, before that Director of Demos and a writer for the Independent, and throughout it all, right up to the present time, an utterly unrepentant old Trotskyist.

George Osborne has just given an interview to the Guardian practically offering James Purnell his current job, and openly offering Andrew Adonis the position of Education Secretary.

It is inconceivable that any of these people either would have been approached or would have accepted without the permission of Blair and those behind him: Mandelson, Campbell, and all that crowd of old Communists, Trotskyists and fellow-travellers; the European Commission, of which Mandelson is now a member; Murdoch, who now employs Campbell; and the old Trots at the American Enterprise Institute and the Project for the New American Century.

Whether in intent or in effect, there is absolutely no difference whatever between what we now have and the physical rigging of elections by such means as the stuffing of ballot boxes.

It’s a fix, such as would provoke riots in the streets if anything remotely like it occurred in, especially, football.

Teledu

How can anyone over 18 but under 30, vote zanuLabour at the next election?
They've yet to experience any other kind of gov't but this inadequate bunch. Surely they'll vote for anyone but Brown and zanuLab.
I'd be interested to know if this age group have been polled. I don't think this generation are as politically tribal as previous ones, which is bad news for zanuLabour.

Trumpeter Lanfried

My pension is going up the spout, my fuel bill is going through the roof, the IMF's suits are checking the times of overnight flights to London, and yet, somehow, I am enjoying this. Must be schadenfreude.

Verity

David Lindsay - Well said, that man! The socialist one-worlders are in charge. It doesn't matter which party is in; the unelected Nomenklatura, viz the foul Peter Mandelson, or in charge of you.

Anglica

Yup: David Lindsay and Verity.

All the more reason for hoping McCain and Palin succeed.

alan

Bropwn will pull a rabbit out of his hat. He will declare that he will hold a referendum on the UK being IN or OUT of the EU! He will promise to accept the decision and make policy changes following the result!

SUCH a policy, such a move would instantly wipe the smiles off the Tories as we will have the spectacle of Cameron/Osborne etc in the IN camp and forever losing their eurosceptic labels!

Brown knows that being out of the EU will bring in massive investment and also save the country billions.

Expect this in late Autumn.

Matt

Alan- love to know what you're on so that I can get some in too.

Quite apart from anything else, what's to stop Cam/Os taking exactly the same position that Brown would putatively have and also agreeing to abide by the will of the people?

Given the number of times Brown has defended the EU (not to mention signing the Lisbon Treaty) how would he convincingly be able to put himself in anything other than the In-Camp as well? I've seen some pretty desperate suggestions for what's going to come riding to Labour's rescue, but that is going to take some beating!

Nicholas

And how do you know this alan? Are you a Gefreiter in Herr Braun's Propaganda Kompanie engaged in the usual national socialist pre-announcement, pre-parliamentary debate spin?

If true, it would be desperate and risky politics from the Bottler who was so keen to ratify the Lisbon Agreement after the Irish 'No' vote. He will literally do anything to stay in power won't he?

David C

I don’t believe Brown could or would offer a referendum on Europe.
I have said before (and nothing he has done has changed my opinion) that Brown is an iconoclast. He is seeking to remove all possibility of the UK returning to a pre-1997 social framework.
One method would be to destroy the Conservative Party, which he has tried and failed to do. The alternative is to subsume the UK within the EU to as great a degree as he can accomplish and sideline, and render redundant, as many remaining UK institutions as possible.
Thus Britain becomes irrevocably intertwined with the Statist, Centralised, Socialist EU and Politics in the UK is effectively abolished.
His problem with a referendum is that it takes away his control of events – the people, for a moment in time, become their own masters.
One tell-tale would be if Brown goes on bended knee and begs the ECB to let the UK into the Euro. At parity, the coinage could run side by side in these islands for quite a period, making it a nice gentle introduction. Hmmm.

As for the Conservatives, they are an essentially pragmatic party and faced with a referendum, Cameron could quite easily do a ‘Harold Wilson’ and place himself above the fray, riding whichever horse comes out the winner.

John de Finchley

Alan - you've posted this fantasy all over the web this morning.

Why would Broon offer a referendum on being in or out of the EU when he won't even offer one on the Lisbon Constitution?

Why would he enter yet another poll in which he's going to be eviscerated?

David Parker

Alan, that would indeed put the cat amongst the pigeons!
Brown is probably now so unpopular that he would still be thrown out at the next election, but imagine what might happen if Frank Field were to replace Brown and follow this policy and the Cameroonians were, as you suggest, to be in the IN camp!

In practice, I suspect that the political hierarchies of all three parties are so europhiliac that none of them would be prepared to risk a referendum offering the chance of a complete withdrawal. Even outside the EU Parliament there are already far too many lucrative EU funded quango and quasi-political posts within the UK occupied by political apparatchiks and failed members of the new professional political class for this self serving bunch ever to pay more than lip service to the possibility of leaving the EU.

Verity

David Parker, d'accord.