Growing distrust of the Beeb

David

I doubt it. This'll be forgotten in a matter of weeks, save only for the frothings of the morality brigade so bloved by the Mail (expcept of course when it publishes similar things).

bill

Well done to The Daily Mail.

I have longed for the day for BBC to be taken down and not just a peg or too.

It should be flogged off as quick as possible.

strapworld

This is an open goal for the Tories.
There is so much disquiet about the BBC. They themselves acknowledge that they are politically biased and their staff do not reflect the make up of our great nation.

The Tories have asked for a debate....They should tell the country just what they intend to do when they are elected.

The BBC has got to be reduced in size. many parts could be privatised or obtainable by subscription.

I have suggested a Royal Commission. But I do believe that Cameron could make himself very popular by saying he will look at the Licence Fee and whether it is appropriate these days! etc.

But will he do such a thing? Has he got the balls?

Ben Elford

Is objecting to public obscenity and elder abuse to be dismissed as 'frothings of the morality brigade'?

The BBC is now distrusted and disliked on many levels. The Brand/Ross scandal may prove to be, not the straw that broke the camel's back but the last Barnes Wallace bomb that finally breached the dam.

Moosbrugger

In reply to David I can do no better than paste in a comment from the relevant Guardian CiF thread.
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Hipposandwich
Oct 30 08, 12:24pm

A few themes seem to be emerging.

1) Kneejerk opposition to the Daily Mail. whatever line it takes on any issue ever. Because two wrongs always make a right in guardianworld, and the Daily Mail is the great satan.

2) Anyone who objects to malicious phone-calls to the elderly is a daily-mail reader and therefore scum, who should always be ignored.

3) Georgina Baille is a burlesque dancer. So she is a bit of a slapper and therefore fair game for mysoginistic abuse. This is somehow extended to excuse abuse of her grandfather.

4) Andrew Sachs once played a dopey spanish waiter, which makes him a racist, and therefore worthy of abuse.

Well done the left.
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On the whole, squeals of "Daily Mail! Daily Mail!" are quite encouraging because they are a sure-fire sign that the complainant is a bit stumped for a refutation.

James J

The BBC has always been protected by the fact that Conservative voters were as likely to support it as Labour voters. For the Conservatives to move against its current status it will be necessary to convince these Conservative voters that it no longer can be trusted.
The Conservative party should ensure the Corporation’s bias is exposed and question whether a State Broadcaster is necessary if it just duplicates low brow commercial channels.

Nicholas

Moosbrugger has summed up very well the nasty characterisation indulged in by the Left when people disagree with them. They are institutionally bigoted and always find something or someone else to blame for their own mistakes. Their naive approach divides society into victims and villains. If you are pigeonholed by them in the former group everything is excused, if in the latter nothing is excused. Their hypocrisy is breathtaking.

David

"In reply to David"

I subscribe to neither one, two, three, nor four.

I am saying though that the idea expressed here that there is somehow this great mood to want to get rid of the BBC as it is, and that there should be some sort of moral code, is not widespread and restricted to a core who tend to try and refer to themselves as the silent majority in order to justify themselves.

I think that the abusive call was wrong because it was a harassment.

I do not think however this means that rude jokes should be stopped, nor should the BBC refrain from pushing the boundaries of taste.

Fergus Pickering

Thank you, Mossbrugger. had wondered what Andrew Sachs had done or said to make him a racist. Ihad thought it was perhaps his Jewishness. You jnow- all Jews (including, presumably, JC himself) are racists, just by being Jews. But it's actually even sillier than that.

Summer

Moosbrugger, Nicholas, I entirely agree with you.

The left say they want respect and tolerance - but not for Daily Mail readers (or the BNP) who need a good kicking whenever they dare to oppose 'the left's' prejudices.

Playing dopey Spanish waiters is hateful; but writing off 30,000 plus people as 'Dail Mail' readers - that's not hateful that is what they are, contemptous people who don't deserve a view.

If Jade Goody calls an Indian actress names - she is howled at by 'the Left' who bay for her blood for her obscenity. But real obscenity a la Ross and Brand - well that is 'edgy'!.

You try making a joke on the BBC challenging the moral 'norms' of the left about black people, Islam, or homosexual. Think they would see the funny side? No, the only approved list for jokes are English/American, Christians, men.

If it was suggested that prisoners deserved to be punished, and the feckless deserved to be poor - well can you just imagine the hours of debate on the BBC about this appaling lack of humanity!! But Georgina? Naaaaahh she deserves everything she gets!!

There was one more 'lefty' excuse missing from the list above. 'Can't we talk about more serious things like the corrupt Tories, now back to George Osbourne and Corfu'!!!!! Yep I really have seen this as well.

'The Left' are disgusting, and the BBC are the cheerleaders. If people have at last seen them for what they are, all I can say is Hallijulia. I hope with all my heart this is the beginnng of the end for them. Never, have I wanted to see an institution destroyed so much. And when the Labour Party falls as well, I will be sooooooooooo happy. Perhaps we can get back to a decent, tolerant, respectful British way of life and start rebuilding our shattered country.