Are the knives out for Osborne?
Peter Hoskin 10:35am
How much have the Deripaska affair and the Tories' flimsy response to the economic and financial crises affected George Osborne's standing within his party? A fair bit, if this survey of party members by ConservativeHome is anything to go by. I quote from their findings:
Osborne currently enjoys the support of David Cameron. But - in the absence of a coherent Tory message on the economy - surveys like this make one wonder whether that will last."...support for the Shadow Chancellor has also plunged among the Tory grassroots. Our latest survey of over 1,600 rank-and-file members found that 49% were satisfied with Mr Osborne but 47% were dissatisfied; a net positive rating of just 2%. That is a huge shift since last month when George Osborne enjoyed a net positive rating of +70%."



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strapworld
November 7th, 2008 11:16am Report this commentMr Hoskin, where have you been?
Osborne disgraced himself and in so doing brought the Conservative Party into disrepute! Now in any other organisation Osborne would have been escorted out with the contents of his desk.
As it is, because he is a toff and a close friend of Cameron he is still there doing his inefficient best. He should, as a so called gentleman, have resigned. That he has not has shown the true nature of the man. He is weak.
As is Cameron. He has proved that he is not up too the task and should consider asking David Davis to lead the party with Kenneth Clarke! We need big hitters who will take no prisoners.If Cameron has any sense he will realise he will not be shoe horned into the job. He has to fight. He knows he aint got the ability to fight, so he must stand down.
Personally I think the time is right for Ken!
David
November 7th, 2008 11:20am Report this commentHurrah! Infighting prompted by ConHome yet again! That will really take it to Labour! Woohoo! Go Tim!
Anthony
November 7th, 2008 11:24am Report this commentI'm sure the knives are out for Osborne. I watched him at last PMQs and he just sat there like some useless lump of lard. No animation, no emotion as lie after lie was trotted out.
And if Cameron doesn't shape up pretty soon, the knives will be out for him too.
Punk Economist
November 7th, 2008 11:51am Report this commentOsborne will be moved to Chairman as part of the election preparation ("Cameron puts party on war footing and promises to get tough with Brown" etc). Herbert or Grayling to Shadow Chancellor, Shaps to Shadow Chief Secretary, Hammond to shadow Work & Pensions (he seems to swap between the two jobs in a continuous loop).
luke
November 7th, 2008 11:59am Report this commentCameron has a much meaner streak than people give him credit for.
I think Osborne will be the real casulty of glenrothes.
Dalesman
November 7th, 2008 12:03pm Report this commentThe "yachtgate" affair damaged Osbrone badly, and he should have resigned.
Having said that, I was saying long before that episode that he is a light-weight. Cameron needs the likes of Clarke and Davis in his shadow team.
Rhoda Klapp
November 7th, 2008 12:29pm Report this commentForget Corfu, it doesn't matter. What matters is how ineffective the whole crew have been. They seem to think they are just waiting for their turn.
Should I be expected to vote them into what passes for power in this country on this showing?
How would they take on a threat from abroad while they won't even face down the BBC or the Guardian.
So, Peter, how about a thread for the top ten policies the tories could adopt but don't?
Austin Barry
November 7th, 2008 1:07pm Report this commentOsborne and Cameron were irreparably damaged by the economic Sturm und Drang. Instead of mounting a robust attack on Brown they stood aside like a pair of Pre-Raphelite nancy boys in a laudanam trance. Time for the Conservatives to call time on this catatonic couple.
TrevorsDen
November 7th, 2008 4:36pm Report this commentDon't be so pathetic Strapworld.
What has Osboirne done?
Not accept a donation?
What a pathetic load of toss. What the conservatives did at a time of acute national catastrophe was put the country first. They actually suggested recapitalisation and state support long before it actually happened. They have been calling for low interest rates. Osborne pointed out that the massive drop is an indicator of the depth of our mess.
There IS no easy way out of this mess just wait for the unemployment figures to rise.
Just what has Glenrothes got to do with the conservatives. The credit crunch proved that all the blather of the Scot Nats was so much wind and hot air. Scottish Independence is dead Dead and Buried. THATS what Glenrothes was about.
phil
November 7th, 2008 4:37pm Report this commentWhat a shallow world we have descended into -either the man is competent or not -our rotting culture allows anyone who has achieved nothing to jump on the back of someone who has for the slightest mistake -do I care if G O took wine with a zillionaire -no I do not !I care if he was corrupt and he was not -you guys want to slip down to southern Spain and there you will find what corruption is all about .Would you prefer the likes of norman baker or john prescott running our economy ? answers not necessary -wake up . there is a little heat for you Pete :)
mac
November 7th, 2008 4:46pm Report this commentOver the past 4 weeks we've had variations on butterfly dancing but no bee stings from the Tory top pair; they seem incapable of landing effective punches.
@ Austin:
" . . . a pair of Pre-Raphelite nancy boys in a laudanam trance."
A memorable phrase, and much more expressive than the regulation Bullingdon boys or Tory toffs!
seb
November 7th, 2008 5:05pm Report this commentAt this rate, Labour's only substantial political opposition will be provided solely by the dream duo of Nick Clegg and Guido Fawkes . A small number of bloggers on other sites have voiced the concerns of many that our deceitful oaf of a leader may call an election - and win it - within the next few months. If I did gamble, I'd now be prepared to wager a few pounds on there still being that same deceitful oaf in Number Ten in 2014. Jesus wept!
Paul B
November 7th, 2008 5:16pm Report this commentI agree with Rhoda, what matters is how ineffectual Osborne has been over the past couple of months, during the biggest financial crisis for many a year. There has been a gaping chasm through which the Tories posse should have charged, obliterating the Bungling Brown gang, taking them dead or alive. However they have escaped,gone,skedaddled, vamoosed,in short,they have got away with it.
Now we have the unappetizing witch hunt of the banks,conducted by the Brown, forcing them, at the point of a smoking p45, to reduce interest rates, in effect to continue the same disastrous policies, that brought us to the point of ruination in the first place.
DC & GO have missed their chance, the ship has sailed, the train has left, Brown is winning by elections again and he is re-arming (fast) for the next battle. The Tories need a shake up. They need low down dirty attack dogs, modern day Tebbits. Liam Fox should have his gonads twisted, starved for a week and then set off the lease, likewise DD. KC should be brought in -somewhere, somehow. All hands to the pumps now, its time for Rooster Cogburn politicians, to take a strong nip of the Scottish fire water and to charge the Brown gang with both barrels blazing. C`mon DC, get your act together, otherwise its will soon be high noon for you and your mob at the OK Millbank Towers.
TGF UKIP
November 7th, 2008 9:18pm Report this commentRhoda Klapp and Austin Barry get it dead right. The Osborne (sly and shifty looking sod)parrot has been long dead and the Cameron one is rapidly dying as well.
By any reckoning Osborne must be the worst holder of the office of Shadow Chancellor within living memory. Even when Labour were self-destructing and Gordon all but dead the Tory lead on the economy was mostly in high single figures and the best I saw was 16%. Overspent, overborrowed, overtaxed, over-regulated and finally bust Brown and the best these two political titans could manage was this!
As to who should immediately replace Osborne the obvious answer would be David Davies but as Dave is obviously (and rightly) terrified of DD and as DD manifestly has no further wish to touch this apology for an opposition with a barge pole, there is no obvious answer.
As for all those Coffee Housers who clamour for the return of Ken Clarke, all I can say is YES PLEASE DAVE as I can thing of nothing more that would lead to the death and destruction of this appalling Cameron Tory Party.
The Dandiprat
November 7th, 2008 10:44pm Report this commentAt least he'll be able to pick up work pretty easily when he gets the push.
It's nearly panto season and he would make a very good Widow Twanky. Very little make-up required.
phil
November 8th, 2008 5:31pm Report this commentThere are so many smart alec.s here who have memories like sieves -am I wrong that DC and GO said they would not make political capital during the crisis ?Do you have any solutions ?or do you just enjoy putting people down ,I mean those that have achieved something ?-dandi prat I would offer you the main job in the panto minus the T-
TREVOR we waste our time rowing with a ship of fools -grade-A,s in insults and fails in both economics and common sense -George if you happen to read this I will vote for you whilst these fools are on their tenth lager .
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