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Wednesday, 19th November 2008

PMQs live blog

Peter Hoskin 11:55am

Welcome to this week's Coffee House PMQs live blog.  As always, things will kick off at 1200.  It's expected that the party leader exchanges will centre on the economy - particularly in light of the CBI's prediction that unemployment will hit 2.9 million, and the Tories' announcement on public spending yesterday.  Don't bet against hearing the "Tory/Lib Dem cuts" mantra from Brown.

1200.  Here's Brown now.  First question from Philip Dunne; "Can the PM explain why the pound has lost a quarter of it's value against the dollar in just 4 months."  Brown just rehashes his line of the weekend: "I'd remind Conservative members not to talk down the pound."

1202:
Gordon Marsden slightly stumbles over his prepared line: "Does the PM agree that what we need is an expansion, rather than a contraction, of investment..."

1203: Cameron begins by thanking Brown for announcing an independent inquiry in the Baby P case.  Follows it up with a question on lending.

1204: Brown reposnds by saying that the bailout was the right thing to do and "has been copied around the world".

1205: Cameron says that the bailout isn't loosening up credit for small businesses.  Brown: "We've done what we can, now the banks need to do what they can."  This is all quite muted so far.

1207: Cameron: "Will more taxpayers' money be pumped into the banking system?"

1208:
Brown responds by claiming that we need a fiscal expansion, and that the Tories don't support this.

1208: Things are heating up now.  Cameron accuses Brown of not answering the question.  Follows up by reminding the House that borrowing now means tax rises later.

1209:
Punchier stuff from Cameron, asking how the PM will pay for his "borrowing binge".

1210: Brown's in a punchy mood himself: "Oh yes ... oh yes ... oh yes ... let me tell him about the difference between monetary and fiscal policy."

1212: Cameron pulls out a quote from Derek Scott - Blair's former economics adviser - indicating that the crisis is of Labour's making.  The Labour benches laugh, as Scott's well known as one of Brown's detractors.

1214: Brown's taking shots at the Tories' public spending annoucnement, although he refrains from saying "Tory cuts".  "We're acting, they're faling to act" yada, yada, yada.

1216:
Clegg now. Kicks off with a question about the bailout and lending.  What evidence is there that the bailout is trickling down to small businesses?

1218: Brown responds as he did with Cameron - "Governments around the world have followed our...".  Clegg comes back with "What a complacent response!".  How true.

1220: Gisela Stuart on council tenants in Birmingham.

1222: Brown - responding to a question from Alistair Burt - lists his reasons for why the UK can deal with the recession: 1) Room for interest rate cuts; 2)  High employment 3) Outside of the financial sector, company balance sheets are healthy; and 4) "We are taking the right measures...".  A few Brownies in there.

1226:  Questions on North Sea oil, educational maintenance allowances, and the minimum wage.

1228: Another pot-shot from Brown: "[Helping small businesses] will also cost money.  Any parties that resist fiscal activism at this time are making a very big mistake."

1230:  Brown twists the argument that, thanks to his policies, the UK isn't well-placed to weather the downturn: "Even American regulators agree that the problems started in America.  If the Tories don't understand the roots of the problems, how can they hope to solve them?"

1231: That's it.

VERDICT: A strangely muted affair - perhaps the party leaders had last week's disgraceful PMQs in the back of their minds.  All considered, though, I'd say Brown came out on top.  The questions on the bailout were comfortable ground for him.  And whilst his responses were disingenuous, they had a bite to them that Cameron's and Clegg's performances lacked.

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David

November 19th, 2008 12:58pm

"Even American regulators agree that the problems started in America."

Um, American problems yeah, since the American regulators are only concerned about that. It's not a blanket come and blame us call from them.

Draughtsman

November 19th, 2008 1:09pm

Thank you for the report Peter. I am glad that you have the stomach to watch as I cannot bring myself to look at or listen to Brown any more. The thought that Brown and his flea circus could still win the next election on the back of his performance in this financial crisis fills me with horror and despair.

Michael m

November 19th, 2008 1:41pm

Like a lot of my Conservative friends, we cannot understand Cameron's strategy. Brown is going around with Mandelson not far behind, proclaiming himself as the saviour of the entire world and that his track record and experience as Chancellor are reasons why we should trust him to get us through this crisis

Why is not Cameron and his team hammering the fact that:

Brown sold the Gold Reserves at the bottom of the Market
Brown dithered in 2005/6 when he knew and was told by everyone the Credit boom was out of control
Brown failed to ensure adequate regulation of the Banks- if he had 125% mortgages would never have been allowed
Brown borrowed when times were good
Brown said and promised no more boom or bust/unemployment/repossessions
Brown has only acted now because he had to by the pressure of events
Brown has ruined hundreds of jobs and lives and broken promises

A very simple indictment

Surely Cameron's line should be " This is no time for a proven failure"

I wish those advising Cameron would read this! He should listen sometimes to us out in the country.

oldtimer

November 19th, 2008 2:12pm

Is it not time that PMQs is renamed PMEs - Prime Ministers Evasions?

Verity

November 19th, 2008 3:20pm

Michael M - Cameron's not up to the job and never was. He has handed he socialists another victory at a time when the Conservatives should have been roaring in flattening all before them.

He has given the British public not one single reason to vote Conservative. Dump. him. now.

jennywren

November 19th, 2008 3:53pm

Everyone should stop panicking. David Cameron is doing a fine job. It would be easy to do what Brown has done with our money with Conservative Policy, i.e. use it all up, so that when it is needed ahead of the General Election there is none left. All will be well. Gordon is toast.

Chuck Unsworth

November 19th, 2008 4:38pm

Verity

This is your usual mantra, I take it. Who would you suggest as a new Conservative Leader, then? And what policies should he/she put forward? For that matter should any be put forward?

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