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Wednesday, 26th November 2008

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Lisa Hilton 12:40am

Despite its increasing resemblance to ‘Heat’ magazine, I was reassured on Tuesday morning that my beloved Guardian has not lost the courage of its convictions. Running an ill disguised-spoiler of next month’s Tatler cover (ha ha, vile toffs, we know who Daisy Lowe is, too!), Hadley Freeman pondered “that almost parodic monthly recorder of Britain’s class system’s” new best friendship with Peaches, Pixie and co. – that’s Bob Geldof’s daughters for those of you who have lives- over more traditional aristocratic totty. The Guardian seems a teeny bit obsessed with the Tatler at the moment; Charlie Brooker was banging on about its list of  “waddling bags of arseflesh” aka eligible bright young things on November 17, while Hadley was at it again on October 20th, wondering whether the blazer trend was a form of class treachery.  The problem with Tatler’s apparent show of meritocracy, Hadley concluded, that it was all about money, which has replaced breeding as a criterion for entry into the beau monde. Er, yes. Tatler is gleefully unapologetic about being more interested in cash than coronets. It’s only the dear old Guardian that still believes in Norman blood. Or at least that there is something inherently virtuous about being working class, and that it’s perfectly reasonable to sneer at people because of where they come from- so long as it is a castle rather than a council house. 

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John MacLeod

November 26th, 2008 1:06am Report this comment

Please make this stop - I don't doubt Ms Hilton is a very fine woman, and a very able one (were she herself), but I don't visit the pre-eminent political blog for this sort of thing, and two doses of inconsequential, affected commonplaces in one evening strains my tolerance.

Verity

November 26th, 2008 1:53am Report this comment

Dear God! So many words! So many commas!

The density! The moronic assumptions!

Kevyn Bodman

November 26th, 2008 2:01am Report this comment

I have commented on other threads that I suspect you sometimes play an internal office game of who can put up the silliest post.

This takes the joke too far.

Ms. Hilton might be a good writer, she might be writing stuff that some readers of other magazines and websites want to read.
And she puts her name to her pieces.
I think this is important; I think one of the problems we have in the UK, particularly in the public sector, is that decisions are made by anonymous people who avoid accountability.

So, I would like the person in your office who has so misjudged your readership and who thinks this kind of piece is appropriate for CoffeeHouse to come on here and say 'Yes, I authorised this.'

It's a misjudgement that needs to be corrected.

Then pay Ms. Hilton, give her a good reference and let her go somewhere else.

skooch

November 26th, 2008 3:33am Report this comment

What?

TPR

November 26th, 2008 8:13am Report this comment

Isn't there a financial crisis on somewhere? At least I thought so.

Kev G

November 26th, 2008 8:15am Report this comment

Inflicting this young lady on the coffeehousers is about as sensible as cold-mailing free Girls Aloud CDs to the clientele of Bayreuth.

Can you encourage her to showcase her talents somewhere else, please.

Austin Barry

November 26th, 2008 8:26am Report this comment

This illiterate arch nonsense is surely a joke.

Chris

November 26th, 2008 8:41am Report this comment

I have nothing to add. Neither does Ms Hilton. That's why you don't need her witterings. Neither do your readers.

idle

November 26th, 2008 8:45am Report this comment

I second Kevyn Bodman -

'the person in your office who has so misjudged your readership and who thinks this kind of piece is appropriate for CoffeeHouse to come on here and say 'Yes, I authorised this.'

Michal Boneswill

November 26th, 2008 8:50am Report this comment

Thank Heavens somebody's focussing on the stories what count, eh?

Marbury

November 26th, 2008 8:55am Report this comment

This post is a somewhat desultory sneer. Still it was worth publishing if only to provoke the retired officers and stockbrokers who seem to constitute the CH readership into such entertaining explosions of pomposity. Keep it up, Lisa! And you too old chaps!

John Page

November 26th, 2008 9:02am Report this comment

I have no idea what this post is about. Is that good or bad? Has someone sneaked into your office and put this up while your backs were turned?

GS London

November 26th, 2008 9:04am Report this comment

Comma ridden, like the face of a pubescent teenager it is, but it is not grammatically incorrect. And actually, it makes a fair point - that the snobbishness involved with the class system has now largely reversed, promoted by its erstwhile antagonist.

As Wilde said, "we are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."

Anthony Gibson

November 26th, 2008 9:04am Report this comment

Yes, the Guardian should stop carrying class and Tatler obsessed articles. Take this one for example:

"After a party held by Tatler magazine at which I seduced an old Etonian, I definitely felt a chip fall from my shoulder, while at the other end of the social shagging scale, any man who actually works with his hands, and, God, gets dirty doing it, can carry a huge, ahem, allure."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2007/jul/08/familyandrelationships6

Obviously that must have been written by a different Lisa Hilton.

Andrew Zalotocky

November 26th, 2008 9:07am Report this comment

Is this a political blog or a showbiz gossip column? Get Lisa Hilton to write about serious issues or get rid of her.

RK

November 26th, 2008 9:59am Report this comment

Please can someone have a word with Matthew d'Ancona and say 'please, no more of this'.

Marian C

November 26th, 2008 10:50am Report this comment

The whole article is total drivel.

Fergus Pickering

November 26th, 2008 11:17am Report this comment

If you don't like it then don't read it. I've had enough of letters and percentages to last me a lifetime and it doesn't do to get TOO hung up on politics.Other thinhgs do matter, or if they don't matter they are of interest. Prime Minister Balfour: 'Nothing matters much. Most things don't matter at all.' There is a place for trivia. Too much macho stomping and huffing and puffing and bloody SUMS is not good for the soul.

CS

November 26th, 2008 11:18am Report this comment

Please get rid of this society drivel.

MJ

November 26th, 2008 11:19am Report this comment

skooch is right, but I go further.

Who?

Why?

William Norton

November 26th, 2008 11:20am Report this comment

I'm enjoying this run of Lisa Hilton articles tremendously, and I want it to continue. This is post-modern irony at its finest. Isn't it?

Kev G

November 26th, 2008 11:33am Report this comment

Will, you old contrarian, you! Ever the sucker for posh totty.

Victoria

November 26th, 2008 11:38am Report this comment

TO ALL:

Agreed. Society news, better left to Tatler and well, Heat Mag (HEAT MAGAZINE Pron: Hat. Mag. Def: 21st Century publication providing neo-social commentary relating to somewhat celebrity status and images of about town 'celebrities' showing perhaps too much flesh. Reputed for enthusiasm with one too many a Greek tragedy in middle-class urchins, Jordan and Kerry Katona being names mentioned in previous issues. See contacts for further information) - but why the reaction that likens Ms. Hilton to a sardonic feminist?

Yes we know we're all short of a few pounds at the moment, whether in cash or conviction. Lets hope we're not short of a sense of humour; it's hardly a cover story.

Trammer Swinny

November 26th, 2008 12:37pm Report this comment

Amusing that this has got by far the most comments of any of today's CH posts. Hats off to Lisa.

Austin Barry

November 26th, 2008 3:05pm Report this comment

If this is the Speccies new direction then let's all discuss the celebs in the jungle. I mean, that Martina, phew, grrrr....

Verity

November 26th, 2008 3:15pm Report this comment

Is it post-ironic?

skooch

November 26th, 2008 7:02pm Report this comment

Or post-finest, in its most modern irony?

To quote Waldorf, and then Astoria:

'Who knows ....?'

'Who cares ....?'

The Dandiprat

November 26th, 2008 8:44pm Report this comment

More of this please to alleviate the Westminster drivel.

And take no notice of the sideswipes: commas is fab.

Puncheon

November 26th, 2008 8:49pm Report this comment

Lisa, darling, I didn't understand a word of your article, but you seemed to be making a reasonable if obvious point about the inverted snobbery of the liberal trendy lefties. More amusingly you have flushed out the latent pomposity and self-importance of the Coffee House readership. If people don't like this sort of thing then don't read it, but don't try to impose censorship on others because your prejudices are offended. That is very authoritarian/lefty behaviour, in my view.

Chris

November 26th, 2008 10:40pm Report this comment

Excuse me. My pomposity and self-importance are NOT latent! They're proudly displayed for all to see and admire. And it's not a question of censorship; if the Speccie wants to pay good money for this cr*p, let it. Then we'll exercise our right as free-born Britons to gather round and go 'ner-ner-ner-ner-ner' at it.

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