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Friday, 23rd January 2009

Obama needs a new Iraq policy

James Forsyth 7:07pm

If the Iraq War had not happened Barack Obama would not be president. If most Washington Democrats had not discredited themselves in the eyes of the Democratic base by voting for the war, a first term Senator—even one with Obama’s political talents and appeal—would not have been able to win the party’s nomination.

In the Democratic primaries, Obama proposed a 16 month withdrawal plan. The plan owed more to politics than to military strategy; he announced it after John Edwards in a last-ditch effort to stay in the race had produced an absurd rapid timetable for the departure of US forces in an attempt to pander to anti-war voters.

Now that Obama is president and that the political pressure on Iraq is off, he should abandon the idea of a timetable and instead adopt a conditions-based approach. As the Washington Post editorialises today, a 16 month withdrawal—which would need one US brigade to leave each monts—risks the progress made in Iraq since 2007 and will leave the US with too few troops on the ground in a year in which Iraq is having, at least, two crucial elections.

If Obama wants to show that he is now a national leader not a partisan one, he will junk his politically determined Iraq plans and instead work with the generals on the ground to secure the best possible outcome for America and Iraq. It is surely better that American troops come home in two years time leaving behind a relatively stable Iraq than return in 16 months with Iraq at risk of falling back into chaos.

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wonderfulforhisage

January 23rd, 2009 8:00pm Report this comment

So the Iraq war does have a silver lining - Hilary isn't in the White House. Phew.

Austin Barry

January 24th, 2009 12:43am Report this comment

These foreign wars are pointless. The real battle will be in the West's cities and here the enemy redoubts are already established in Leeds and Luton, Bradford and Whitechapel. You sometimes wonder, looking at Gordon Brown and his hopeless cadres whether a military coup might not be the best thing which could happen to this country. A catharsis.

David Lindsay

January 24th, 2009 12:23pm Report this comment

He should just cut his losses and get out. As should we.

Matthew Blott

January 24th, 2009 3:03pm Report this comment

So James, let me get this right here. Barack Obama's emergence is due to resentment of the Iraq War and his ability to tap into this. He makes Iraq withdrawal part of his presidential election manifesto. But now he is elected he should forget this and do something else?

Frank P

January 25th, 2009 2:42am Report this comment

Austin Barry: >"You sometimes wonder, looking at Gordon Brown and his hopeless cadres whether a military coup might not be the best thing which could happen to this country."<

Too late Austin; can you see a senior military figure on the horizon capable, let alone willing, to do what's necessary? The military hierarchy is pussified, the police is now politicised and in the thrall of the Leftists. The MSM is predominately Leftie Liberal. No political party within the country represents those who were once the backbone of Britain, certainly not the Sovereign and her Court - all neutred and the sovereignty dispersed. Something different may emerge from civil unrest and the anarchy that must surely follow eventually, but it would have to get much worse before it could even begin to get better and I don't envisage that the coming generations can possibly throw up what's necessary for a resurgence of the Western courage and culture that existed when we were at our best. Don't know what your chronological vantage point is; but from mine (a vast expanse of hindsight) I can safely state that we're well and truly buggered. I'm just happy that I probably lived through the best of Britain's evolution and I will be spared the worst, as I am overdue for Oblivion as it is. Like most stars, Britain burned brightest just before it began to explode. That seems to be the Universal ‘Scheme of Things Entire’. Luckily, it seems that the Black Hole that will replace it will be devoid of any sensitivity or understanding. But I do weep that my issue and theirs will most probably not be able to experience what may have been possible, before the 1997 election snuffed it all out (the decades prior to it contained the clues - too few picked them up). Then again: “in the long run we’re all dead anyway”. So just keep on enjoying yourself by defaming, with you usual aplomb, Gordon Brown and all who sail in her – and amusing me (probably man many others too who lurk hereabouts) in the process. Thanks for your past efforts; I look forward to your future ones.

Marian C

January 25th, 2009 11:07am Report this comment

Frank P & Austin Barry; Well said to both of you; I totally agree with both your comments

Coeur de Lion

January 25th, 2009 10:42pm Report this comment

I blame the Middle Class for reneging on their duty to insist on proper standards everywhere even in the face of media hatred and political correctness over recent years. Lack of courage.

David

January 26th, 2009 2:23pm Report this comment

"The MSM is predominately Leftie Liberal."

Eh? The largest circulating newspapers are the Daily Mail and the Sun. These are leftie liberal?

Anan

January 27th, 2009 5:30pm Report this comment

Dear Spectator Staff and or James: Please email me what is wrong with this post and I will correct it. I don't see anything that is rude here or unprintable. Otherwise please publish this because I am asking a legitimate question from FrankP.

"I don't envisage that the coming generations can possibly throw up what's necessary for a resurgence of the Western courage and culture that existed when we were at our best."

Oh? Nor should they. By "best" I take it you mean when we were running amock around the world, enslaving entire nations, pillaging the wealth of ancient civilizations, killing any and all honest leaders, and shifting populations from country to country to cause massive racial strife once we left. A truly glorious "culture" of spreading conquest, rape and death around the world on unsuspecting innocent peoples!

That was our "best"?! That was our "culture"?! Dear oh dear, it looks like you are so "overdue for oblivion" that you've gone nuts! Or is it, as I suspect, what you have always believed, since the day your parents explained to you why we were the "best" back in the (good old) days? Then I say good, let each of us Englishmen of this day and age (not those in your never-to-return memory), and every single other human in the world, hope that those days, your time, never returns.

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