The US is so worried about the UK terrorist threat that the CIA has set up its own spying network in this country 

Max Kaye

Can you really blame them?

(Also, the CIA may have noticed that our anti-terror police are apparently too busy investigating tory MPs.....)

Doug

And the situation will never be resolved while we have a Labour government who is pussy footing around Muslim organisations and supporters who are blind to the problem.

Veracity

No wonder the Americans don't want to share intelligence with us any longer. I THOUGHT it had little to do with last week's (Binyan) story.

adrian drummond

Define British?

Jenny

Hallelujah!

Go CIA!

I'd like to say what I felt about the British government and the head of its security service Jonathan Evans but I fear the post would be blocked.

Looks like the CIA already know how bad things are and what I would say anyway.

mitch

Its that terrorist in downing street with his deliberate crashing of the economy they should worry about.They at least learned to fly before attempting to pilot the planes.

Laura

Rejoice, rejoice, rejoice in that news!

They've fully grasped that they cannot trust the British security services - and thank God for it.

zakariyyaazzam

Sorry guys that will not help.
Why?

Because every real jihadi recruit
must prove himself, at least for
six months in actual military
combat at the jihad front in
Pakistan,Afgahnistan,Kashmir or Irak to be accepted in the inner circle of a real western jihadi cell.

That really helps
to clear out the "informers".

In other words, they must demonstrate that they are willing
to be killed and willing to kill,
including "enemey women and children".

Only then will they be accepted
for jihad in the West!!!

The real jihadis are deep undercover and are preparing
mass killing never seen before
since WWII!!!

Hayley

In other words, they no longer trust the British government or its security services. Why did it take them so long?

If the CIA is looking for British recruits to provide information on this traitorous government, I’d be only too willing to help them in any way I can.

Wilhelm

Good, the left has hijacked Britain, turned it into a multicultural swamp, next stop the islamic caliphate of Britain.

I dont blame the Americans one bit.

Austin Barry

How long before the UK is ejected from the US Visa Waiver Program? We have been fashioned into a sad, forlorn, inept little country by a bunch of sad, forlorn and inept politicians. Come the revolution.

mac

Open-door immigration, security policy in the hands of Smith, Coaker and Woolas, operational policing directed until recently by political toady Blair and the anti-terrorism branch run by the impetuous Mr Quick: one can understand American concerns . . . .

TomTom

India has for years complained about Kashmiri terrorists being funded from the United Kingdon so no doubt India has a network of agents here too.

James J

Yes it makes sense. We are also not able, or possibly not willing, to tackle the problem ourselves. The problems may start when the US intelligence agents gather the information and our Criminal Justice System is unable to deal with the problems in a sensible way.

Pete, Scotland

Does Obama realise that Gordon Brown sat and watched the threat to develop and fester over the years without trying to stop it.

Even when many were shouting at him about the danger of allowing known terrorists to live and preach hatred in this country!

Helen J

CIA Allstars 1

British government/security services/judiciary/jihadist Allstars 0

Brilliant.

Anan

Hey Wilhelm, Kaiser, it wouldn't have become a "multicultural swamp" if you had stood up back in the 1800s and told us and also the French that it was wrong to colonalise every part of the planet!

Alice

Way to go, America!

God speed be with you. Save yourselves. All's lost here.

John

zakariyyaazzam,
You sound almost proud of them.

PDS

This is most worrying.

The current government appears to have lost the confidence both of its people and its closest political ally.

There is no action that the electorate can take. We can agree with outspoken political commentators, but are ultimately powerless to avoid the consequences of events.

How do we force an urgent election?

Paul T Horgan

This is the logical conclusion of the Labour-inspired political correctness that has pervaded different tiers of national and local government for decades.

The government should resign en masse in shame.

Exactly whose country am I living in? It is clearly no longer being run by or for the sensible majority.

egh

James J @ 8:18 p.m. - Problems in our being unable to deal with the problems? Not to fret.
The US will be in league with the euSSR (and the Irish, the Welsh and the Scots, who now all hate the 'English' more than at at any other stage in history), so there won't be any problem about sorting us out.

It's the new version of fairy tale: Several females have a pretty rival; so they put spiders nearby that bite the rival's face - poisonous...leave permanent marks. So the first females say to everybody else: ooh, look, ooh, she's a prostitute and riddled with disease and etc. etc. So everybody boots the rival to death, takes everything she has, marries the prize guy - and they all 'live' .... ever after----

George Steiner

Don’t blame your politicians. You had a say in the mater.

Juliana

Yet I just saw Joe Biden in Munich claiming global warming was as big a threat as terrorism. What planet does this guy live on ?

HacyonDays

Picking up on Austin Barry's comment re: the visa waiver programme, it has been looked at by the US authorities back in 2002 and again after 7/7 in 2005. However, the US has decided to maintain it, with beefed up hidden security procedures. The disruption to US/UK political and commercial relationships is probably too severe to end it. Of course, an attack in the US implicating the UK is a different matter, and all bets would be off. For now, there are many hidden profiling techniques and security/monitoring measures being undertaken today for UK to US flights and their passenger lists, especially those of Pakistani origins and some other countries as well. To be fair, the UK authorities are as active in this work as the US ones, and there is close co-operation, how ever much the media may like to play up the differences.

Verity

"... a bunch of sad, forlorn and inept politicians". No, Austin Barry, they are not inept. They are very ept indeed. Look what they have accomplished in 12 years. Demolished 1500 years of our history, our traditions and our familial civil society.

They are not inept.

The Americans are correct to look after their own. We no longer have this ethos in Britain so in that sense, we are outside the pale anyway.

Chris

Traitorous bunch, the commenters on the Spectator website. If the CIA are spying here without British permission, they should be thrown out. That should be the end of the "special relationship"

Frank P

Bwaahahahaha. The CIA have been spying in Britain since shortly after WWII and will continue to do so, I suspect forever; just remember that a great wodge of our Secret Service was directly in the pay of Moscow from the 1930s through to the 70s and I doubt they have cleared them out completely now. It's the Game - the Circus. Everybody spies on everybody else. Are you suggesting that Obama has suddenly had a new idea? Double O Bama perhaps?

I just hope the CIA are lock-stepping several from the Cabinet in the UK, they are in deriliction of duty if they aren't. Spies have managed to infiltrate government many times in recent years. It's not the Yanks you have to worry about. Rest assured that jihadists have infiltrated all areas of Government and bureacracy in Britain. This is all old hat James. Still, I suppose it's better than having another crack at Carol Thatcher. Wait - perhaps she has been recruited by the CIA, can't you weave that into the scenario? All this Golliwog business is just a smokescreen
to divert attention from her real mission.

Mind you, it's all a bit pointless now; look who is President of the United States -game over! Bring on the clowns.

Frank P

Bwaahahahaha. The CIA have been spying in Britain since they were formed after WWII and will continue to do so, I suspect forever; just remember that a great wodge of our Secret Service was directly in the pay of Moscow from the 1930s through to the 70s and I doubt they have cleared them out completely yet. It's the Game - the Circus. Everybody spies on everybody else. Are you suggesting that Obama has suddenly had a new idea? Double O Bama perhaps?

I just hope the CIA are lock-stepping several from the Cabinet in the UK, they are in deriliction of duty if they aren't. Spies have managed to infiltrate government many times in recent years. It's not the Yanks you have to worry about. Rest assured that jihadists have infiltrated all areas of Government and bureacracy in Britain. This is all old hat James. Still, I suppose it's better than having another crack at Carol Thatcher. Wait - perhaps she has been recruited by the CIA, can't you weave that into the scenario? All this Golliwog business is just a smokescreen
to divert attention from her real mission.

Mind you, it's all a bit pointless now; look who is President of the United States -game over! Bring on the clowns.
Don't bother they're here.

Roy

It wouldn't be a bad idea for the Americans to watch Canada, Australia, and New Zealand too. All heavily under the influence of the left and sinking.

Verity

George Steiner
February 7th, 2009 10:23pm
"Don’t blame your politicians. You had a say in the mater." George Steiner, whose mater was that and who elected her?

Verity

Chris - As the flea said to the cat.

SW11

Indeed. The US did want to end the waiver, and also looked at making people who travelled to Pakistan apply for a visa. The Government wasn't having of course, but the waiver system has already been tweaked.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c6266782-e0af-11dd-b0e8-000077b07658.html

Labour's grovelling to the Muslim lobbyists (eg ending the primary purpose rule) and turning a blind eye to visa overstaying and the abuse of education visas has resulted in very significant under the radar migration.

You only have to see the latest figures for Muslim family births and the rise of non-Anglo children at primary school to see what has happened over the last 12 years. Never mind the undesirables.

In the end, we just don't know who is in the country. So the CIA will have to find out for us.

Archie

Who voted for these people who have destroyed our country and poisoned its indigenous citizens?

Nicholas

"Look what they have accomplished in 12 years. Demolished 1500 years of our history, our traditions and our familial civil society."

Absolutely, and some sad. deluded fools consider this "progress". It has been a long march for the burrowing leftofascists since the 1960's but under New Labour they have managed to do more lasting damage to our country than all the Labour fools of the previous 60 years and the Luftwaffe combined.

Neil Turner

A fascinating piece - thanks

I would be most interested in an overall audit of the net effect of 11 years of New Labour on the UK

This would cover

- the economy
- our armed forces
- democracy (powers lost)
- the Law (laws changed, introduced, and repealed)
- the state of the Countryside
- education (education, education)
- the impact of political correctness on society (imposition of minority will over that of the majority)
- the rise of Islam
- the erosion of our Christian heritage

I am sure that such an audit would reveal why the USA feels it can no longer trust us.

However, as Obama and Blair are cut from the same cloth, the "gap" won't exist for too long, and Islam will rise in the "Land of the Free"

hilda

Got something to hide, Chris (11:19p)?

Or were the CIA here long before you were ... and with permission?

Really, I suggest the truth to be that the 'special relationship' is unpalatable to the euSSR and the Caliphate. It's not that fragrant, either, to all the euros etc. who constitute the US populace, and who are as doped up with franco-german claptrap as you are.

Furthermore, GB is no longer free or independent; so it now has no power or authority to have relationships or to let anybody in or out of what used to be our country.

The commentators on here know what's really happened - maybe you don't. Or maybe you're on the side of the real traitors: the ones who've been so treacherous as to put us in this situation.

Marc O'Polo

Pete, Scotland: Well said. They were like rabbits caught in the headlights (of a multiculturalist juggernaut.) Multiculturalism's an ok idea if done over time and intelligently applied. Wholesale immigration and being sh*t scared of standing up to backward nutcases is despicable cowardice. This Gov't: Guilty on both counts. (Tiresomely, the Tories were no better.) The rot set in with The Satanic Verses debacle: the Gov't of the day should have nipped all that nonsense in the bud. Spineless (Tories, of course.)

AndyLeeds

Depressing. I'm sorry to say that over the last 25 years all our Governments have not taken a firm enough line with radical Islamic organisations. The cases are too numerous to even list but you can all real them off.

drakes drum

Verity is right.

When will the Spectator do an in depth investigation into COMMON PURPOSE?

mckenzie

The Islamification of Britain: Muslim Gang Attacks Christian Church in Rochdale:

http://mckenziefly.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/the-islamification-of-britain-muslim-gang-attacks-christian-church-in-rochdale/

mac

@ Chris:

There might not be formal 'permission', as you put it, but you don't seriously think it's being done without British government acquiescence, do you?

JohnAnt

As these jihadis are also Labour (and Libdem) voters, it's doubtful that much will be done at that end to expel them.
The whole thing is so depressing - and it was so predictable, from the mid-1960s onwards.

Florence Nightingale

Take a look at the last series of Spooks, episode 6. This show always seems to be one step ahead of events in Britainistan and has a lot to say about our American friends and their distrust of us. Of course, this being the BBC the Yanks are portrayed as the bad guys ,but I sure am glad they are here.

ID

Blinking flip, with those brilliant coves at the CIA on the case, we're all safe! After all, they did such a magnificent job stopping 9/11! Carried out by, er, muslims domestically resident in the . . . *US*.