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Saturday, 7th March 2009

Why isn't Balls being kicked like Harman is?

James Forsyth 4:24pm

I bumped into a Labour MP the other day and he asked me a good question, why is Harriet Harman the only one getting it in the neck for her leadership positioning? Several other members of the Cabinet clearly have an eye on a post-election leadership contest, notably Ed Balls, but they aren’t receiving anywhere near as much criticism. If, as Martin puts it, Harriet is at it so are several others.

Some say that it is the absurdity of the idea of Harman leading the party that means she attracts so much flak. I agree that Harman would not be seen as a credible PM by the electorate, but I suspect that Ed Balls—who is a far worse media performer than Harman—might drive the Labour vote down even lower than Harman would. So, why is he not attracting the same level of vitriol for his leadership manoeuvring?
 

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Mitch

March 7th, 2009 4:40pm Report this comment

Perhaps because no one outside of rampton and Eds tiny mind consider him as anything but a joke.
Say it out loud I dare you."Prime minister Ed Balls" ha ha ha just cant be done.

David Ossitt

March 7th, 2009 4:56pm Report this comment

Because she is a nasty piece of work; he is not but he is married to one.

JimBob

March 7th, 2009 5:05pm Report this comment

Balls, admittedly a nasty piece of work, hasn't yet turned himself into a hate figure with such a wide group of people like Hattie has (i.e. every man in the country).

Robert Simpson

March 7th, 2009 5:11pm Report this comment

I think that Harman wouldn't get any attention either if she hadn't amazingly managed to win the deputy leadership race.

You could make a case for saying that she only won on second preferences on the whole "vote for me because I'm a woman" thing. Still, her victory then makes her a more plausible candidate now, even if she is still a bit of a joke.

Marbury

March 7th, 2009 5:17pm Report this comment

The obvious answer is sexism, although the CH community's own species of political correctness forbids anyone from saying so. The comment above, which seems to equate being a female politician with being "a nasty piece of work", is suggestive.

Susan Hill

March 7th, 2009 5:25pm Report this comment

Because he is Broon`s chosen heir apparent so nobody is allowed to say anything - Harman is there to be walked over.

George Laird

March 7th, 2009 5:27pm Report this comment

Dear James

"Why isn't Balls being kicked like Harman is?"

I think there are sseveral reasons, one of which is that Harman has a proven track record of personal discrimination in denying a man a job.

Harman was okay about affecting the employment prospects of someone based solely on gender.

Finally; she is also a raving nut as she proved in the Goodwin story to the nation's satisfaction.

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

Obnoxio The Clown

March 7th, 2009 5:35pm Report this comment

Because he's so weak?

Obnoxio The Clown

March 7th, 2009 5:37pm Report this comment

PS If you want, I can put my hobnailed boots on and have a go at kicking him.

Dave B

March 7th, 2009 5:48pm Report this comment

Because Mr Balls is perceived to have no chance, while Ms Harman has already won a competitive election for deputy-leader, so is the closest thing Labour have to an heir?

Verity

March 7th, 2009 5:51pm Report this comment

JimBob says Balls "hasn't yet turned himself into a hate figure with such a wide group of people like Hattie has (i.e. every man in the country)".

That is a grossly unfair statement. Women hate her, too. For all the same reasons.

Chuck Unsworth

March 7th, 2009 5:59pm Report this comment

Because whilst Balls is a jerk, Harman is a harridan.

Balls thinks he's clever, but Harman is purely vindictive - and not clever either.

Liz Brown

March 7th, 2009 6:22pm Report this comment

I hate Balls...........does that count?

Max Kaye

March 7th, 2009 6:37pm Report this comment

Because he is sneakier.

But don't worry, Balls-kicking time will come as soon as he puts his thick neck other the parapet.

JONNY

March 7th, 2009 6:41pm Report this comment

Might it help if he changed his name to Edward Cooper-Balls?
Shade more mellifluous?

oldrightie

March 7th, 2009 6:53pm Report this comment

I suggest it's because he does favours for Brown Harman is not capable of? There again make that what he wouldn't want!

David Ossitt

March 7th, 2009 6:55pm Report this comment

Marbury; you write.

The comment above, which seems to equate being a female politician with being "a nasty piece of work", is suggestive.

Where on earth are you coming from; we have had in the past and have now many wonderful female politician.

This nasty deluded, man hating crass, stupid wo-person just is not one of them.

BrianSJ

March 7th, 2009 7:00pm Report this comment

Because if Brown goes off to spend more time with his family/largactil, she is the elected deputy and would have to be at least a stand-in PM.
The ONLY good thing about that is that Betfair will then pay me a small sum of money.

RW

March 7th, 2009 7:00pm Report this comment

I think there are two reasons:

(a) Brown's intense and well known personal loathing of Harman, which gives implicit permission to anyone in the know to throw lumps of ordure at her, metaphorically speaking of course; and

(b) his realisation that she might just win.

Commissar Balls, on the other hand, is the other half of the progressive Brown-Ballsite political consensus. He is above and beyond criticism.

Lichen

March 7th, 2009 7:39pm Report this comment

Because he isn't a woman...

John Moss

March 7th, 2009 7:48pm Report this comment

Because most of the Labour party would be quite happy to have Ed Balls as their leader, wheras almost none of them would tolerate Harman.

I doubt, though, he would change his name. Cooper-Balls would be too much of a target for the sketch writers and cartoonists, Balls-Cooper whould be turned into a supposed quotation from exchanges round the (shadow) Cabinet table. I suppose he could be very NewMan and change it to Cooper, but then he'd just look like a whimp!

RW

March 7th, 2009 9:00pm Report this comment

Harman will be the perfect leader of the Labour Party, in the manner that Moses is said to have led the Israelites in the wilderness, for forty years...

Don

March 7th, 2009 9:30pm Report this comment

Don't worry his turn will come, and it'll be worse.

John Ward

March 7th, 2009 9:30pm Report this comment

The reason is probably Harman's habit of putting herself about a lot in the present context, whereas Balls is being relatively quiet. He isn't presenting himself as much of a target.

Also, Harman really hasn't a clue about how real people think and act, so is always going to be subject to criticism. If one is going to be an elected representative (as I have been myself) one needs to recognise the purpose of the job, which is to represent those people — not a narrow and bigoted viewpoint, such as Harman's.

Alex

March 8th, 2009 8:30am Report this comment

Because Balls is just a joke and isn't even a contender for the leaderhip

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