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Sunday, 10th May 2009

The Telegraph on the Tories

James Forsyth 6:56pm

The Telegraph has posted a preview of its coverage of the shadow cabinet’s claims, which will feature in tomorrow’s paper. Here are the key points:

"Tomorrow the Telegraph will disclose instances where Conservative MPs have gone to great lengths to ensure their country properties are maintained at taxpayers’ cost.

One shadow minister has had piping repaired that stretches under his tennis court. Another leading front bench Tory has claimed thousands of pounds for the upkeep of his garden.

A senior member of the shadow cabinet claimed for 25 light bulbs to be replaced in his second home in West London.

Another has used his designated second home allowance to upgrade a property just prior to selling it."

We’ll have full coverage when the Telegraph's investigation goes live. My initial reaction is there that this nothing the Telegraph mentions here which is career-ending. But we'll see soon enough.
  

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Tiberius

May 10th, 2009 8:54pm Report this comment

None of the revelations will be career threatening because all of these claims will have been rubber-stamped by some patsy with licence to interpret whether they are "within the rules".

strapworld

May 10th, 2009 8:57pm Report this comment

Mr Forsyth. Do you truly appreciate the anger amongst we, "ordinary people" as the chipmunk Blears calls us??

Not a sacking offence. Every bloody one of them, from whatever party, should be sacked and never allowed to stand for Parliament or Council again!

This is our taxation they are taking. Soldiers are losing their lives because this bloody crowd have not protected them properly.

They give OAP's over 80 84p a week extra for food!! and themselves £100 a week ON TOP of their salaries.

Those that are found to have abused the system should be thrown out of public life by their parties.

IF David Cameron does not throw those named this week out of his party, then he will not win the General Election, that will go to the Liberal Democrats.
I have never known such ill feeling and anger. If this was France there would be riots!

We will be watching David Cameron's actions! and he had better treat everyone the same -and not one law for rich boys in the shadow cabinet and another for backbenchers!

Guido Fawkes

May 10th, 2009 8:57pm Report this comment

+++ Gove Claimed for Nights at the Garrick +++
+++ Osborne Claimed for Chauffeurs +++
+++ Cheryl Gillian Claimed for Dog Food +++

Guido’s turn to do a spoiler on Telegraph. Now we’re even…

mitch

May 10th, 2009 9:09pm Report this comment

"claimed for 25 light bulbs"

well that puts Hazels 3 houses to shame doesn't it?

golfwidow

May 10th, 2009 9:11pm Report this comment

Cameron could do himself and his party a favour by a)making an example of Duncan and b)acknowledging that such behaviour is morally indefensible rather than "within the rules" of a "flawed system".

And where on earth are the Balls/Cooper expenses?

Ronnie

May 10th, 2009 9:12pm Report this comment

I'm going to stand for Parliament and then claim a large yacht in Monaco marina as my second home.

Humpty-Dumpty

May 10th, 2009 9:25pm Report this comment

Career threatening? OF COURSE they should be career threatening, indeed career ending!! Claims should be wholly necessary for the commission of Parliamentary duties - that's what everyone is overlooking! Pipes under a tennis court, servicing a ride-on mower, mock beams on a house, prams, dog food, 17 cushions??

There are NO excuses for this profligacy - I despair!

Kittler

May 10th, 2009 9:32pm Report this comment

What has not been covered by yourselves, and most of the media, was the recent conviction and the jailing of six Tories for a total of 14 years for ballot rigging. This behaviour strikes at the roots of our democracy. This was a serious matter and should be of far more concern than 25 light bulbs or the like.

TrevorsDen

May 10th, 2009 10:01pm Report this comment

Duncan's £4k over 3 years for gardening is not much different to browns £6k for cleaning.

Hard to see that its really bad for the Tories. The scale of labour sleaze is not going to have (or should not) a real effect on Tory position.

Cameron should take a strong stance - especially if as reported its Maude who has been doing the 'flipping'.

golfwidow

May 10th, 2009 10:20pm Report this comment

Well, he's said sorry - I guess that's a start.

Ken

May 10th, 2009 10:21pm Report this comment

@Kittler
Agreed. But both parties have been through the courts on this one (as a little Googling will reveal).

Postal voting is a scam and needs to be thoroughly cleaned up. It is particularly concerning where it is abused by tribal families in heavily ethnic constituencies.

See a recent post on Craig Murray's blog

Don

May 10th, 2009 10:43pm Report this comment

Not much here, but are the lovely Ed 'n' Yvette to be served as a sort of splendid pudding at the end of this feat of greed; most of the country hopes so!

Dirty Euro

May 10th, 2009 11:00pm Report this comment

I think the tory expenses scandal will help the tories.

Cheryl Gillian Claimed for Dog Food = Well other Mps eat human food, she is so careful with our money she goes for dog food.

Gove claiming for the Garrick = Most people do not even know what the garrick is. Who cares!
Osbourne = People know he needs a driver, so what. How is he supposed to wave at passers by if he is driving.

logdon

May 11th, 2009 10:02am Report this comment

Today's obsession with moral equivalency? Looks like the Tories have attained nowhere near the same level of productivity of udder manipulation techniques as their erstwhile, up to their eyes in dung colleagues on the opposite benches yet the BBC is trying it’s best to create the image of a mutual pot pissing society.

Listening to Marshall Andrews this morning confirmed that Labour are still smarting and riled that the Telegraph has revealed all. His chiselling away at Andrew Porter about source and payment just did not wash. And Porter’s pretty terse replies to Mair who was patently itching to support Andrews flattened his argument also.

I've heard the term 'Tory supporting Telegraph' coming from the BBC too as if the paper was being glaringly partisan. Imagine if the T retaliated with Hamas or Taliban supporting BBC?

Cameron has to adopt a diametrically opposite position to the ghastly Labour troughers who plainly still see no wrong in their kleptocratic ways. The longer they whine about ‘rights to a family life’ without the nous to realise that that privilege is open to all without the need to rob taxpayers to fund it, the longer they expose themselves to an irate public.

And isn’t that the whole core of this sorry tale? It’s not just the money but the sense of entitlement. When Gorbals Mick spouts that he didn’t enter politics to not accept every perk going, whither his rabid ‘class system’ then? Chauffeur driven cars to football matches? The hypocrisy is quite rancid.

Porter promised even more. We’ve yet to hear details of the Balls Cooper nice little earner yet.

Bring it on and wring ‘em out!

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