Brown does a Darling
Peter Hoskin 12:37am
Just in case Gordon Brown needed reminding that his battle for survival is being fought on numerous fronts, the Telegraph has sifted through the PM's expenses again and discovered a rather juicy morsel. Apparently, around 06-07, Brown claimed the allowance for his constituency home while also charging the taxpayer for council tax and other bills on another property in London. It's not about the amount of money he claimed on the London property - some £512, certainly a mistake - but the principle of it: after all, this is the misdemeanour which Darling was charged with earlier in the week, and the Chancellor had to both explain himself and pay back the extra money. On top of that, there are also signs that Brown engaged in a spot of flipping.
After his Son of the Manse routine earlier, Brown could well do without this. Sure, it's far from the worst revelation to emerge from the Telegraph's expenses investigation, but Brown's very political survival is dependent on his pleas and narratives taking root in the public consciousness. Even the suggestion that he's yet another flipper could be enough to fatally undermine his talk about "cleaning up the system," or about taking on the "gentlemen's club" of Westminster - particularly as Brown is already coming out of the expenses scandal badly. So while this kind of thing won't topple Brown, it does erode his platform at the most precarious of times. And that, in turn, increases the chance of him slipping.



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Tim B
June 6th, 2009 1:29am Report this commentI'm shocked. Shocked. What would his father - of whom he spoke in highly moral terms at his press conference - have thought of his greed and dissembling?
Frank P
June 6th, 2009 2:16am Report this commentWhat makes anyone think that fathers or sons of Scottish manses are not as prone to dissembling or dishonesty as the the fathers and sons of castles or council houses, if not indeed more so. Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much. The whiff of whited sepulchres hangs around the little creep. And moreover he was exposed in yesterday's press conference as a downright feck'n liar on many counts. Everyone among the press corps knew it - as did he know that they knew it. As he slunk off carrying his notes - obviously written by someone else - he had the appearance of a ham actor who had just auditioned for a amdram Shakespearean melodrama, having been told "Thank you, don't phone us, we'll phone you." It was excruciating. His attempts to use Churchillian rhetoric and his rampant megalomania will get him sectioned eventually - but not before he drives the rest of stark staring mad I fear. He reminds me of Nikolai Caucescau in his last days, just before the Mob got to him. He should take note and resign before he suffers the same fate; his poor wife doesn't really deserve it, even though she must be a bit bonkers, too. Imagine what it must be like living with him?
Mike
June 6th, 2009 3:14am Report this commentThe man is seriously mentally ill. David Owen wrote an interesting book about leaders with illness. Time for another chapter - if not a new volume.
mitch
June 6th, 2009 5:15am Report this commentWhen I hear gordon talking about his farther and his vaaalues all I hear is Norman Bates talking to his mother.
The guys a loon.
CCTV
June 6th, 2009 6:08am Report this commentBrown has a track record of self-serving around expenses and it is surprising how quiet he has kept those who could report on his self-indulgence
strapworld
June 6th, 2009 7:19am Report this commentI believe Gordon Brown is suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder.
There is the 'son of the manse' the man who has been brought up to be totally honest. (A rarity!Not seen much at all).
The 'clunking fist' The man who will wipe out any opposition and would finish off David Cameron and Nick Clegg. (Obviously gone for a sabbatical!)
The Iron Chancellor. The greatest economic brain since the invention of the calculus. (Still can be observed acting through his puppet Darling!)
The man who eradicates poverty. (This person has a tactic of taking people from being wealthy into poverty and then 'saving' them- a St.John the Baptist type?)
The Happy Smiling Jolly Gordon (last seen on UTube)
The autocrat, women hating man. (This is seen more often and has been exposed by Ms Flint. His unease when greeting female guests. His pucking lips (I meant pucking!!)his whole demeanour when females are around him. ((Does he EVER take his wife out for a meal? to the theatre/cinema? a walk by the Thames? ))
The Romantic Brown. (Yet to be seen)
Are there any more?
John Page
June 6th, 2009 7:39am Report this commentThat was inadvertent. It's just what happens if your claims get a wee bit complicated and you're poor at numbers with no eye for detail.
The disgusting angle is: what was any minister with grace and favour accommodation doing claiming for any second home anywhere?
Greedy Brown now says no one living in grace and favour accommodation should make a second home claim.
If it is wrong now - and obviously it is - why was it right then?
Stewart
June 6th, 2009 7:48am Report this commentWell, just get Fraser to ask him about it at the next opportunity. Use similar words in the question as you have used above and any honest network will have to report.. Oh wait, I've just spotted the flaw in my plan!
Stewart
June 6th, 2009 7:51am Report this commentBy continually boasting of his Presbyterian honesty and values is the PM implying that other Christian denominations would not have instilled him with equally righteous virtues?
Don
June 6th, 2009 7:55am Report this commentI'm not surprised, there's one thing that most people can agree on and that is Broon is just a hypocritical bag a wind. A classic 'do as I say' not 'do as I do' politician.
Andy in France
June 6th, 2009 7:58am Report this commentI'm sure the Labour "Star Chamber" will give this their full attention, then ignore it.
Jock
June 6th, 2009 8:00am Report this commentWhen he acquired his moral compass, did claim it on expenses? After all, it is a job-related device.
Andy Leeds
June 6th, 2009 8:13am Report this commentMore to the point what would have father think of his sons lying to the public, and his profligate use of public money over the last 12 years ? He would conclude that his son was morally bankrupt and not fit to hold the highest office of State.
JohnOfEnfield
June 6th, 2009 8:30am Report this commentSlightly O/T... but I was greatly amused by Peter ... sorry Lord... Mandleson's attempts to smear Cameron on expenses earlier this week.
I was equally surprised that no journalist/presenter used the obvious put-down that this particular Lord had to resign over his "mistake" on a Britannia Building Society application form.
DownTrodden
June 6th, 2009 8:32am Report this commentOne day someone is going to stuff that "Son of the Manse routine" so far down his throat he'll choke on it.
Don't give up folks, we'll get the b'stard yet.
Neil Turner
June 6th, 2009 8:41am Report this commentI watched Gordo's press conference live yesterday, and reached the conclusion that he is mentally ill
Is there a professional in the field of mental health out there who might give us all a proper view ?
He looks to me completely exhausted, stressed, in a state of complete denial about reality, and surrounding himself with those who are telling him exactly what he wants to hear.
Help, someone ?
David Ossitt
June 6th, 2009 8:53am Report this commentHe's a shit; a mendacious shit, he is the corrupt leader (just) of a totally tainted and vitiated government.
I loath and detest the man; his government, and his party.
Alfred T Mahan
June 6th, 2009 9:10am Report this commentAren't the best whores daughters of clergymen?
Moraymint
June 6th, 2009 9:19am Report this commentThe man is now an embarrassing international public joke. That press conference yesterday made me cringe. It seems that Gordon Brown's new vision for the United Kingdom involves forming 3 more committees. It's pitiable to watch.
The saddest thing of all is watching the spineless, supine insects around him - his so-called cabinet colleagues - wheel behind the most appalling, incompetent, illegitimate, bullying politician ever to have forced his way into high office.
So, now it all rests on the parliamentary labour party minions: that money-grubbing lot who have also let the Executive get away with blue murder for a decade. Let's see if they have the guts to act. On past performance, I'm not holding my breath.
In which case, what on earth are we the people supposed to do in the face of what is becoming, to all intents and purposes, an unelected dictatorship? This is madness. I never, ever thought I would see UK politics reduced to such a shambolic mess. Gordon Brown will never live this down in the annals of British political history. It's ironic that a man who so craved power, and who was so singularly unsuited for it, will eventually depart in ignominy ... however long he clings to office.
Desparate. Bloody desparate.
Oliver
June 6th, 2009 9:29am Report this commentWhat mandate to make changes?
He is unelected, Mandelson the Deputy Prime Minister (in effect is unelected and has been booted out twice before), Alan Sugar is a thuggish business leader, whose top-down organisation is the epitome of command and control.
He has just lost all county council's and is likely to have no EU representatives.
Fernando
June 6th, 2009 9:33am Report this commentDoes any one see any similarities between the attitude of MPs to their expenses and the views expressed by Brown in 1972 in “Alternative Edinburgh: a city Guide with a Difference”. I went to two universities between 1968 and 1973 and we enjoyed a comparatively privileged existence certainly compared with the experience of my children in recent years. Those were the days before tutorial fees, when there were grants not loans and subsidised meals in college. It was rare to have to work to pay for a course, except during the holidays.
Despite this comfortable existence, Brown’s advice was to claim whatever you could: “whatever the reason the so-called welfare state was brought into being, it can and must be used to the full extent…If you are British and can give an address, free money is available from social security, basic £5.80 per week.” Ignore any moral qualms: “you might think you are guilty but legal advice can show otherwise”.
The attitude of getting what you can, working the system, scrounging if you like, does appear to go back a long way. Brown doesn’t seem the sort of person to be trusted with reforming the expenses system.
oldtimer
June 6th, 2009 10:09am Report this commentThis is just peanuts when set against the millions in bribes paid to the jobsworths who have lined up to sing his praises and accept jobs in his new cabinet - millions of pounds in patronage for salaries, pensions, expesnses, chauffeurs, cars, offices, fawning flunkies - all at our expense.
Moreover, he will be at it again on Monday when he fills the boots of innumerable junior ministers. What is the betting that the payroll vote will account for the whole of the Parliamentary Labour party?
The Representation of the People Acts, 1867, 1885 et al, might as well never have been passed; we are back to the worst type of 18thC politics. Will Labour backbenchers attempt to redeem themselves and remove this mendacious turd - just as they helped remove the Speaker? I doubt it.
billericay dave
June 6th, 2009 10:18am Report this commentGood god labour have just committed political suicide Kinnock as a minister and the other one on sky spouting his old labour crap ! How low can brown get before he sees the light and understands we don’t want him as he seems to think losing over 300 council seats and every council the British public supports him, no wonder he was a rubbish chancellor if he cant understand these simple sums.
Boudicca
June 6th, 2009 10:35am Report this commentStrapworld: Narcissistic Personality Disorder also sounds very plausible.
Whatever 'syndrome' he has, he is obviously delusional and mentally unstable - as all the reports of his uncontrollable temper verify.
He should not be Prime Minister. It's dangerous.
logdon
June 6th, 2009 10:42am Report this commentThey're all in the land of the white coats and largactyl.
Watching the procession on BBC news and Newsnight as they dissembled and dissembled, drearily on and on or screechily indignant as if this were all a bit of bubbly, inconsequential froth brought on by a Tory Telegraph.
Hain at his oligenious orange hued, used car salesman worst, tripping over his contradictions with no apparent regard for probity as if he just didn't care.
Or an overexcited northern female MP attempting to oil her way into Gordo's good grace with such an outrageous disregard of reality you had to wonder what planet she inhabited.
Not getting it is such an understatement. They’re still lying and lying as if they think those lies, piled upon all the rest will fool the public.
This is the reality of New Labour. Built on scheming and what they can get away with, now rumbled and still at it. It’s all about them. All positioning and narratives and news cycles whilst a groaning populace is completely ignored.
Even when those voters rise up with the throat ripping message of total rejection only an election can display, it’s as if none of that counts. Their, ‘what the people want’ mantra is churned out at every turn, outrageously at odds with our obvious message of what we really want yet the nanny knows best mindset refuses to budge.
We all know the game. Stagger on until the spun ‘green shoots of recovery ‘ message takes hold and we’ll all bovinely forget the last three months. What arrant contempt!
A British public has been reduced to mere voting fodder. All we’re good for is that X in the Labour box and sod the rest. Promises are designed to be renaged upon. A manifesto is meaningless. Words are amorphous and empty dribblings from mouths so accustomed to the sharp practice of sophism that truth is a mere concept to be manipulated at will.
The only reason why Brown is staying is because a change would mean a general election. And a general election would mean wipeout. That’s the reality of ‘what the people want’. It won’t go away, yet we are completely ignored and the blather goes on.
Welcome to Gordo’s dream. The Socialist Republic of Great Britain where democracy is what he says it is.
Martyn Thomas
June 6th, 2009 12:06pm Report this commentI watched yesterday's press conference with open mouthed incredulity. When questioned directly about whether he ever had any plans to move Alistair Darling he said no and denied that was his plan. The whole of Westminster knew that he wanted to move Darling. Later he invoked his father (yet again) saying how he had been taught the importance of honesty. Unbelievable! Is there anything this man will not do or say to remain in power? Once again he has been exposed as a liar. Plain and simple. A liar.
jon dee
June 6th, 2009 12:34pm Report this commentAs the Telegraph reveals Dr J Brown alias our hapless prime minister, fiddles his expenses.
Clearly with enough time on his hands to arrange cleverly the payment of certain bills by the taxpayer, he shows a studied understanding of "the rules".
Add to this his status as a "flipper", he takes hypocrisy to a new level of "unacceptable behaviour".
Its no wonder his colleagues have him by the Balls.
Frank P
June 6th, 2009 1:22pm Report this commentlogdon
Thank you, I was just about try to express my extreme frustration and anger about yesterday's events, but having read your last post, you have said it all much more articulately than I could myself.
Now please would you do me another favour and address the extreme insult of the diplomatic outrage of failing to ascertain that the Monarch of the country that first decided to liberate Europe from Hitler and his military might and was alone in that task for many months; the Monarch who lived through that war and contributed to it in uniform herself, but was not invited to a ceremony that was allegedly meant to respect the sacrifice of the dead of that war and honour its remaining veterans on the 65th anniversary of the commencement of the final push; an occasion that has in fact been hijacked by a crypto-Marxist American President and a French upstart to cement a new Anglo-French alliance that demotes Great Britain to minor role in World affairs. As I have said often, we should never have returned that patch to the surrender monkeys. They did not deserve to have it back. As for Gordon Brown's role in this: well, the mental health issues have already been fully discussed, so perhaps he may have a clinical immunity from culpability. But the arse-lickers around him haven't!
Écrasez l'Infâme!
Bocephus
June 6th, 2009 1:54pm Report this commentAs Richard Littlejohn has pointed out in recent weeks Gordon Brown's expenses claims would shock the public if the media would bother to point them out.
A London property was basically paid for and renovated by the taxpayer for 15 years - for most of which he had 2 grace and favour properties at his disposal - then shortly before he became PM he transfered it into his wife's name. This will allow him to keep around £500k profit tax free. He then flipped to claim expenses on his Scottish home even though that was now officially the only property he owned or paid rent for.
This is probably the greatest example of "playing the system" of any MP mentioned in this scandal, yet it has been given virtually no publicity at all. Why is everyone in the media so frightened to tell us?
JohnAnt
June 6th, 2009 2:23pm Report this commentOne important point hasn't received enough attention:
How can Brown justify claiming expenses for a second property that was rented out and occupied by another person? He received the expenses, he received the rent. How morally justified is that?
David Ossitt
June 6th, 2009 4:59pm Report this commentLest any of you forget; this is the man who in his youth whilst he was a student wrote a pamphlet, the subject was, how best to fiddle the benefit system.
Things have not changed much.
logdon
June 6th, 2009 6:52pm Report this commentFrank P
June 6th, 2009 1:22pm
Thanks for the compliment and I agree absolutely with your sentiments on the D-Day outrage.
There's not much to add to your take on this gross insult to our Royalty and remaining survivors.
For Obama and his pint size Gallic buddy the war is a mere opportunity for a bit of a photo op back slap. Sod the dead. Sod the superhuman courage. Sod the fact that it ruined Britain. All that counts is their own self regard and hubris.
These petty little men are hollow historical illiterates bending facts to suit their grubby ambitions.
Gone is that quiet reticence which the veterans always display as they play down their own individual tales. Now it's all talk and if the facts do not suit they're bent and manipulated until they do.
Fortunately for us as we reach the fag end of this monstrosity of a Goverment, our public has decided enough is enough. The Americans have got another three years of the Obamination they so crazily voted for.
Caveat emptor is all that comes to mind.
Frank P
June 6th, 2009 9:35pm Report this commentlogdon
The trouble is that the buyers who didn't beware and bought the whole NuLab project (and renewed their warranty twice) have lumbered the rest of us with the product we didn't want. And they call that democracy.
If the PLP won't start the process of ridding us of this monocular addled-brained twat on Monday we must organise a massive protest in Central London that will eclipse any other ever held. I'm up for it, even at my advanced age and creaky old frame. I think our blog hosts should start the ball rolling: how about it Pete? All this prolix invective on paper won't shift the mad J Arthur. I reckon we could get a million angry souls to march and make a fuss that would shake him to the core. If a wipe-out in the local elections and in the Euro elections hasn't done the trick, then let's bring Central London to a standstill for a few hours before the summer recess. Something to screw up the holidays of him and and his
cabal.
Obama Beach indeed! I've banged up saner f****ers in St Bernard's than this Berkeley Hunt. Haven't been on a good demo punch-up for years. A couple of bus-loads from each town/village in England would make a start and I'm sure there are enough enemies of Mad Don Bruno of the Scotia Nostra in The Smoke to top up the numbers. Somebody has to do something. As I said yesterday, remember Caucescau! It's the 20th anniversary of that uprising this year in December. He didn't 'get it' either until it was explained quite explicitly.
Paul B
June 6th, 2009 10:53pm Report this commentBrown reminds of Gollum, from Lord of the Rings,my precious. Substitute Browns yearning to be PM, for Gollums yearnings for the ring, the source of power. Brown is/was eaten up by his lust and desire, he`s taken the country into the furnace of hell, like Gollum, and now will fall to his political death clutching/clinging onto power/the ring, my precious. He has been driven mad by his lust for power once in hands though, he hasn`t a clue what to do, being in posession is enough. The only difference between Gollum and Brown, is that Gollum is better looking.
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