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Sunday, 28th June 2009

The great office of state

James Forsyth 11:17am

Fraser and Tim Montgomerie report this morning that David Cameron and George Osborne are considering working together from a joint office in government much as they do now in Norman Shaw South. Undoubtedly some will worry about such an arrangement, they'll argue that given the state of the public finances Osborne should be solely concerned with Treasury business. But it strikes me as a sensible idea. First, by having their staffs work in the same place they will prevent the emergence of the rival power bases that have crippled Labour for much of its time in office. Second, with the PM and the Chancellor working together their will be no distance between the two for spending ministers to exploit, This will vastly strengthen Phil Hammond's hand as he negotiates with them.

Finally, Project Cameron tends to be at its best when Osborne is at his strongest. It is no coincidence that the ropey periods for it have occurred at times when Osborne's own influence has been low. To be sure, Osborne can be criticiced for sticking to Labour spending plans for too long. But when the party has needed to move, it has been Osborne who has led. He might not be as naturally talented a politician as Cameron or have as appealing a public persona, but he is an extremely able strategist.    

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TrevorsDen

June 28th, 2009 11:59am Report this comment

I am sure they are considering many things. The first of which will be getting elected.

Instead of speculating about a Conservative future I think it will be better to concentrate on Brown's and Labour's cascade of lies.

Suki

June 28th, 2009 12:03pm Report this comment

Very fair analysis of Osborne's talents. He is not one for the TV.

Rhoda Klapp

June 28th, 2009 12:19pm Report this comment

Yeah, a way to empower the clique and cut everyone else out will be a triumph for democracy and never never never cause factional infighting.

Do you actually read the stuff you write?

TGF UKIP

June 28th, 2009 12:37pm Report this comment

How vastly amusing and encouraging for those of us so looking forward to the predictable nosedive of Project Dave.

What I note neither Fraser nor Montgomerie choose to mention or comment on is the position of the Real Leader - The Mekon.
Indeed it is most noteworthy in the diagram Montgomerie provides of Dave's current arrangements that in the office next door to Dave sits not Boy George but "Head of Strategy, Steve Hilton" with Osborne then occupying the office after him.

As it is I understand the plan was for The Mekon to return to the UK full time in July the better to be able to pull Dave's strings day to day - is this still the case James?

I can just imagine Mandy's wolfish grin when he reads Fraser's piece this morning. He'll certainly be able to enjoy an extra glass this lunchtime.

JGS

June 28th, 2009 12:58pm Report this comment

Actually, I think that Osborne's getting better on the telly. I imagine that the passage of time will sort most of his public persona probs!

Mark C

June 28th, 2009 1:39pm Report this comment

Not a good idea in the medium to long term, I think. No Chancellor should be indispensible and so no Prime Minister should bind himself so closely to his Chancellor.

Verity

June 28th, 2009 2:10pm Report this comment

All this fiddling and bustling about to look busy and decisive! It's a charade.

They don't have to worry about who's going to sit where because they are not going to get in. The Conservative Party under David Cameron stands for absolutely nothing (except A-lists, which have morphed, inexplicably, into lists that include absolutely anyone who feels like standing; and "green" issues and other destructive socialist programmes) so there's nothing to vote for.

strapworld

June 28th, 2009 2:32pm Report this comment

Perhaps they will move this clique to Eton Place.

They are looking more and more like Blair and Brown. Will the British people fall for the same again?

The British want One Prime Minister in Charge not a team. It does highlight my serious concern about Cameron. He is, as far as I am concerned, no leader.

One person has to make the decisions. It appears to me that this arrangement will end in tears, because, sometimes,decisions have to be made immediately.

Cameron has shown a total lack of leadership and political nous by not sacking his shadow cabinet ministers who have been caning the expenses!

Now this! Why not have all the cabinet and their offices in one place all the time. Take over the Dome and make that the seat of Government!

David Davis has GOT to speak out and save the tories from this public school nonsense.

Tiberius

June 28th, 2009 4:04pm Report this comment

Do you want to borrow my tin hat, James?

Julianlzb87

June 28th, 2009 5:26pm Report this comment

TGF UKIP... Topology is
plainly not your forte.
There is nothing noteworthy
about the office layout.
Certainly Hilton is not favoured by better access than Osborne since both have to negotiate 3 doors getting from their office to Daves.

Colin

June 28th, 2009 5:30pm Report this comment

Assuming they win power of course...

Actually, this may be his only option. Once he's gotten rid of the expense cheats in the shadow cabinet, it's not clear who'll be left to form a cabinet in government.

He will get rid of the cheats, won't he? Surely Gove and co. can't continue much longer, can they?

Kevyn Bodman

June 28th, 2009 6:10pm Report this comment

Who is The Mekon?

TrevorsDen

June 28th, 2009 6:17pm Report this comment

I see now TGF why you are in UKIP -- delusional as ever.

Verity

June 28th, 2009 6:27pm Report this comment

Well said, Rhoda K and TGF UKIP. I think Project Dave is already taking on water, yet he and the clique are paddling ever more furiously with ever more moonbat ideas.

Yes, who is The Mekon? Return from where in July?

Tory Girl

June 28th, 2009 6:49pm Report this comment

I don't know what it is about Osborne but he just doesn't connect, however he is getting better. Although Cameron is the Old Etonian Osborne comes across as the one born into privilege. In fact it's the other way around. Recently I was reading an interview with Osborne and he described his upbringing as well of but urban/metropolitan, whereas David Cameron was brought up in luxury in the shires. Yet the perception is the other way around, strange really.

Laura

June 28th, 2009 6:53pm Report this comment

I think criticism of Osborne is unfair. It's a shame that even Tory supporters seemed to buy into Labour personality destruction propaganda about him. Have you ever wondered why Labour hate him so much. Look at the big picture for once.

Tory Girl

June 28th, 2009 6:56pm Report this comment

Kevyn Bodman
June 28th, 2009 6:10pm

Who is The Mekon?

Steve Hilton

Oscar

June 28th, 2009 8:13pm Report this comment

Well said Laura. One of my predictions for 2009 was that Conservatives would learn to love Osborne. Doesn't seem to have happened yet, but I'm still hopeful. I get the impression he's more effective (and more popular) behind the scenes than in front of cameras. But he should never be under-estimated. A very perceptive, canny and creative politician. Labour have reason to fear him.

Tiberius

June 28th, 2009 8:20pm Report this comment

Anyone who is unsure about the term "Mekon" should google it.

I presume it is this characterization that TGF UKIP would have us believe best fits Steve Hilton, who is currently on a sabbatical in California.

He has been instrumental in formulating strategy to rid us of the dastardly NuLab blight.

Jamie

June 28th, 2009 8:36pm Report this comment

It seems only right for the First Lord of the Treasury and the Chancellor of the Exchequer to be so close - hence why they have houses next door. It is only in recent history that the Prime Minister has become delatched from his primary responsibility of managing the nation's finances.

Annunziata Palmer-Tomkinson

June 28th, 2009 8:57pm Report this comment

Frankly James, it would have been a lot more helpful had you suggested that 'Call me Dave' and 'Der Kluncken Fuhrer' shared an office in the bunker. Such a common-sense arrangement would doubtless assist the efficient and seamless transfer of power from 'Fake Labour' to 'Blue Labour' when the appointed moment finally arrives. You know it makes sense.

TGF UKIP

June 29th, 2009 12:35am Report this comment

Tiberius is of course right, as in all things other than in his political judgements.

The Mekon was/is The Green Shaven-Headed One and the original Mekon was the sinister and evil enemy of Dan Dare and his faithful henchman Digby back in the comic The Eagle (I believe he has since been replicated in a more recent comic, 2000AD.)

It seemed a perfect name for the modishly green, shaven-headed and equally sinister Hilton who appears to be the string-puller behind Dave and the other marionettes in The Clique.

And as I recall, it was James who advised us some months back that The Mekon was due to return to the UK full time in July.

No doubt James will correct me if my memory is deficient.

Verity

June 29th, 2009 5:12am Report this comment

Laura, a newcomer here if that is her blogname, writes: "Look at the big picture for once."

Thank you, Laura. What makes you think you can identify the big picture better than anyone here?

Further to Tory Girl: " Who is The Mekon?

"Steve Hilton".

OK. Who is Steve Hilton?

jose garcia

June 29th, 2009 8:41am Report this comment

"I think criticism of Osborne is unfair. It's a shame that even Tory supporters seemed to buy into Labour personality destruction propaganda about him. Have you ever wondered why Labour hate him so much. Look at the big picture for once."

Laura

have you seen Osborne expenses ?
he has flipped houses and claimed as much as the labour party MP.

I am a conservative too but i was disgusted when i saw it, those 2 dont stand for anything

After the state of the goverment/economy and the expenses scandals
they should have walked out of parliament(the whole party) and demanded a general election.

they are the same as labour, i am sorry but it is the truth

Verity

June 29th, 2009 4:14pm Report this comment

Trevor's Den - As has been mentioned several times before, TGI UKIP is not a member of UKIP. He/she is simply expressing gratitude that there is a party other than one of the ghastly major parties to vote for. And a party that appears to put British interests before other considerations.

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