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A shadow Cabinet member needs to call Brown on his lies

James Forsyth 11:53am

One of the urtexts for understanding Conservative campaign strategy is a 2004 Times op-ed by George Osborne on what the Tories could learn from the Bush campaign. One section of it strikes me as being relevant to the question of what the Tories should do about Brown’s lies, I’m instinctively uncomfortable with using the l word but I really don’t see what else I can call them. Osborne wrote:
 
“Character attacks on his opponent almost never come from the President’s own lips. They come out anonymously in TV ads or by e-mail from the campaign’s HQ in Virginia…. For Mr Bush knows that in politics the message tells you a lot about the messenger.”

If David Cameron was to come out and call Brown a liar, it would lead every TV bulletin and be splashed across every front page. But there would be a serious risk of blow-back. Labour would try and claim that Cameron was behaving like a public school bully. The claim could do reputational damage to Cameron.

But it needs to be put into the public domain. No BBC interviewer, with the possible exception of Evan Davis, is going to feel comfortable accusing the PM or a Cabinet Minister of lying when they start spouting these claims: if the presenter has it wrong in any respect, it would be the end of their careers. So, the Tories need to put it into the bloodstream.

The best way forward is to have a member of the shadow Cabinet, calmly accuse Brown of lying. A clear statement that the Prime Minister should stop lying to the British people would, as the editorials in today’s papers demonstrate, resonate.
 

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The Bellman

June 30th, 2009 12:03pm Report this comment

Calling the PM a liar - especially in the face of such overwhelming supporting evidence - would not end the accuser's career. Conceivably, massed jealousy from those who lacked the guts to do it earlier might be a hindrance, but there is little else that could be done. Andrew Gilligan is a case in point.

So the fact that so few interviewers are prepared to face down the assembled conga line of thugs that McSnotty troops into the studios suggests either (a) apathy (2) ignorance or (C) cowardice.

Mike, Brighton

June 30th, 2009 12:07pm Report this comment

The problem is deeper - in Brown's personal and alternate version of reality (also inhabited by Balls) that he has so carefully constructed he isn't lying.

cjcjc

June 30th, 2009 12:12pm Report this comment

I think Andrew Neil would do it too...

Irene

June 30th, 2009 12:26pm Report this comment

Yes, I agree 100% with your last paragraph - Brown's announcements in the House yesterday were somewhat overshadowed by Cameron's attack and did actually make the BBC1 6pm news - so it is going mainstream now.
But which shadow Cabinet member? Would Ken Clarke be so bold ? - it has to be a "name" I think.
Also in your third paragragh regarding the word bully - Balls has already used that word against Cameron this morning.

C Powell

June 30th, 2009 12:32pm Report this comment

Why not get David Davis to do it? Not in the Shadow Cabinet but as a former chair of the Public Accounts Committee he has the expertise to be able to point out what rubbish Brown/Balls and the rest of them are saying and to do it in simple language which resonates with voters.

Little John

June 30th, 2009 12:36pm Report this comment

Brown is emerging larger than life from Bliar's shadow

John Page

June 30th, 2009 12:39pm Report this comment

An attack dog? Alan Duncan thinks he's one, but he's embarrassingly harmless.

How Norman would have relished it!

TrevorsDen

June 30th, 2009 12:54pm Report this comment

Andrew Neil is the only BBC person who would recognise the lies and call them so. No doubt thats why laborites do not get interviewed by him.

In an election it has been customary for the party leaders to be interviewd by Paxman - something which Brown has alwys avoided. paxman is a parody of himself these days - its going to be interedting to see how both he and brown cope.

IIRC its usual for some sort of face the public Question Time session as well. Again something Brown has always avoided.

Presumably Brown will spend all the election campaign being accompanied by Alan Johnson.

Every time Balls uses the word 'bullu' someone should throw the word 'McBride' back at him.

Jonathan Cook

June 30th, 2009 12:56pm Report this comment

There is a subtle way of a minister doing this i.e.

If Gordon Brown is not telling lies, then we request that Gordon Brown sits down with Jeremy Paxman for a couple of hours and explains the truth.

Peter

June 30th, 2009 1:11pm Report this comment

If Fraser could have word with his friends at NOTW, who would have word with their friends at the Sun, a Sun from page with nothing more than a Brown mugshot and the word Liar as a headline should do it nicely. Trevor Kavanagh could rip his figures apart in a 'Sun Says'on p2 and the lassie with her norks out on p3 could add a pithy one-liner. Nail started, if not driven home.

Tiberius

June 30th, 2009 1:15pm Report this comment

The Tories need to find their Peter Hain.

Ian Walker

June 30th, 2009 1:48pm Report this comment

Little John - here's a more apt quote for you?

"And as the Captains gazed south to the Land of Mordor, it seemed to them that, black against the pall of cloud, there rose a huge shape of shadow, impenetrable, lightning-crowned, filling all the sky. Enormous it reared above the world, and stretched out towards them a vast threatening hand, terrible but impotent: for even as it leaned over them, a great wind took it, and it was all blown away, and passed; and then a hush fell."

GJTory

June 30th, 2009 2:28pm Report this comment

I did want Ken Clarke to do it - but I prefer C Powell's suggestion of David Davis.

He's not in the Shadow Cabinet and so would avoid dragging David Cameron in but would act as a brilliant lightening rod after the Brown shirts try to respond to the PM being called a liar.

disgusted

June 30th, 2009 3:37pm Report this comment

Trevor Kavanagh has written about Brown Lies.

He quotes an "ex-Cabinet minister" with

"People accused Tony of telling lies but Gordon is the biggest liar in modern politics. "

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/columnists/kavanagh/article2384927.ece

John Smith

June 30th, 2009 3:41pm Report this comment

If the Tory party do not do it soon, the leader of the Lib/Dems will.

Dorothy Wilson

June 30th, 2009 4:19pm Report this comment

The leading comment in the Sunday Times ended with the sentence: "It's [Labour's] current position is dishonest and untenable".

paul holdstock

June 30th, 2009 6:42pm Report this comment

i keep seeing this image.
it's a large steam engine,
with brown's face on the front of the boiler, like the locomotives in 'thomas the tank engine'.
the locomotives' name?
why. the "Lying Scotsman" of course.

David Belchamber

June 30th, 2009 7:41pm Report this comment

We don't take our chances; Theresa May did not contradict Liam Byrne on Newsnight last night when Byrne talked of the 'tories' 10 per cent cuts'. Balls was on C4 News just now and managed quite a bit on the tories 'cutting billions from the education budget to fund IHT perks for millionaires'.

The first thing to do is to refuse to continue with a debate until the Labour minister agrees to use correct facts and figures.

If that fails, then use the word 'liar' more frequently.

Boudicca

June 30th, 2009 10:08pm Report this comment

It would have much more impact if Frank Field or the blessed Vince Cable could be persuaded to stand up and accuse Gordon of lying.

Then Labour as well as LibDem and Tory voters would take note.

On the Tory side, how nice it would be for Norman (Polecat) Tebbit to accuse Lord Putrid ...

wonderfulforhisage

June 30th, 2009 10:21pm Report this comment

Please, please, please, less spin and more honesty. Pretty well all the above, including the comments, is based on how best to spin. Please, please, please, could somebody please, say it like (they consider) it is.

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