The Republicans debate
James Forsyth 1:03amTonight, the Republican presidential contenders—minus Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter—hold another televised debate here in New Hampshire. Last night, John McCain, Fred Thompson, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani all piled on to Mitt Romney. In the spin room afterwards, their surrogates continued to unload on the former Massachusetts governor and so the big question tonight is whether Romney will face another sustained assault. At the Huckabee event today it was noticeable that he was still, even if not mentioned by name, the major target of Huckabee’s criticisms with Huckabee making cracks about Romney’s hunting bona fides and the amount of his own money that he is pouring into his campaign. While on Fox News Sunday, Huckabee talked about the sense of “brotherhood” that existed between him and McCain because of the “negative ads” that Romney has run against both of them. I’ll be live blogging so check back for updates throughout the debate.
The first question is on tax cuts and Romney takes up the moderator’s invitation to critique McCain and Huckabee’s record on the issue. McCain responds by stressing that he believes in tax cuts but they have to be matched by spending cuts. Romney then rattles off his record as governor of Massachusetts on both spending and taxes. Huckabee and Romney then get into it over whether Huckabee was a tax raising governor and Romney’s purity on the issue. It’s clear that Huckabee really doesn’t like Romney but also that after last night Romney is determined to stay on the front foot. Giuliani endorses supply side tax cuts. Thompson, who clearly has contempt for this whole circus, lays out his social security reform programme. Romney, clearly determined to dominate this debate, chides Thompson for being politically naive. Overall, Romney is coming out of the gate strong but is setting himself up against the other competitors—it’s a risky strategy but with his campaign in trouble he has to roll the dice.
Next up is the economy and Huckabee and Romney go at it again over the whole populism question. Giuliani turns the question round to talk about how he brought people out of poverty in New York. His New York record is impressive but his failure to talk about anything else can make him look small.
The debate then moves onto which Republican can best bring about change. McCain talks about the change in strategy in Iraq that he brought aback but his answer needed to be crisper. Romney, who is beginning to make up for last night’s car crash, strongly pitches his outsider creds. McCain adroitly brings the debate back to national security and wins the exchange on a subject where the Romney campaign were hoping to—and needed—to score.
Romney is then questioned about his statement that the president doesn’t need foreign policy experience. He pivots to talk about leadership and again emphasises his ability to get results, it is a similar strategy to the one that Bush adopted in 2000 after his New Hampshire defeat when he branded himself as a reformer with result. McCain emphasises his impressive national security creds but shies away from taking any harsh shots at Romney. Huckabee is pressed on whether he really understands foreign policy. He comes back with a strong answer which should reassure some voters worried about that. Interestingly, Huckabee also gets McCain’s back over some criticism of him that Romney had made, the “brotherhood” strikes back. Giuliani talks about the foreign policy aspects of the New York mayoralty. Thompson goes after both Huckabee and Romney. McCain rounds off the segment by stressing his military and POW experience. A slight verbal fumble, only slightly reduces the power of an answer that leaves the others on stage looking rather small.
Up comes immigration, an issue that is probably the biggest obstacle to McCain winning the nomination. McCain is clearly tired of the whole issue and produces his now standard answer on the topic which by talking about how he doesn’t want to deport the mothers of those serving in Iraq probably appeases all but the most fervent anti-immigration advocates. He’s helped by the fact that Fox News helpfully puts a quote from Romney which sounds favourable to the McCain approach on the screen. Romney and Huckabee then go at it again. Romney, burned last night, is on aggressive form tonight.
The last section of the debate starts with the tone of the campaign. Huckabee, who is not having a good night, gets a little mixed up in his answer and ends up sounding too sorry for himself. The other news is that McCain rejects the idea of standing for only one term—with Huckabee coming to his aid on the age question; McCain will be 72 come election day. In the final question, McCain—who was the last to answer—praised New Hampshire for its role in the process.
My instant reaction is that it was a good night for Romney and one where Huckabee failed to capitalise on his recent advances. Looking at the latest poll which has Obama up 13 over Clinton and McCain leading Romney by four, one thinks that McCain would feel better if Clinton managed to land a glove or two on Obama and push some independents back towards him.



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Frederick Paxson
January 7th, 2008 3:26am Report this commentFRED THOMPSON is the best person to lead this country. He is a true conservative and has been his entire life. All one has to do is check his record to see this. During my time in the Army as an Intelligence Analyst, I served under both Presidents Carter and Reagan (as my commanders in chief). Without argument, President Reagan was the best commander-in-chief a military person could ever have served under. Fred Thompson possesses the same qualities and vision as President Reagan in that he is strong on national defense and sees a dire need to secure our borders and control immigration. I can think of no better person to lead this country and fix the problems we have. He is the only candidate from either party who has specific and detailed plans on border security and immigration reform; revitalization of America’s armed forces; saving and protecting Social Security; and tax relief and economic growth. These are detailed on his Web site at www.fred08.com . I challenge you to find any other candidate who has laid out specific plans to fix anything. Fred Thompson has published his first principles, some of which are mentioned above. In addition to those, he strongly believes in individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, federalism, traditional American values, the rule of law and is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment — all concepts established during the birth of our country and documented in our Constitution. Again, try to find any candidate who has laid out their plans to “fix” this country. You will find they all speak in vague and abstract terms on their plans. For those who have heard Fred Thompson speak, you will usually hear him say that the Fred Thompson you see today is the same Fred Thompson you saw yesterday and is the same Fred Thompson you will see tomorrow. He stands by his principles and values and doesn’t shift his positions based on polls or public opinion; in other words, he doesn’t say what the voters want to hear just to get elected, but remains steadfast on his views and convictions. During his time in the Senate he focused on three areas: to lower taxes, strengthen national security and expose waste in the federal government. Fred Thompson has foreign policy experience, having served as member of the Senate Foreign Relations and Senate Intelligence committees. As chairman of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, he opened the investigation in 1997 on the Chinese government’s attempt to influence American policies and elections, and this investigation identified connections with the Clinton administration (documented in the committee’s report). As a member of the Finance Committee, he worked tirelessly to enact three major tax-cut bills. Fred Thompson remains steadfast and even though a person may not agree with all his views and he understands some may disagree with him, you can count on him to be consistent and unwavering. Don’t be fooled by his laid back approach and what critics call his “laziness.” As a former assistant U.S. attorney, he earned a reputation as a tough prosecutor and he possesses the toughness this country needs in order to tackle today’s and tomorrow’s issues. I ask that you take a hard look at what this country needs, then take a hard look at all the other candidates’ views, policies, their records and their track record on consistency. Fred Thompson possesses integrity, loyalty, commitment, energy and decisiveness, all traits of an effective leader, and will emerge as the best person to take this country boldly forward. Please help Fred win in South Carolina: https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791
TGF UKIP
January 7th, 2008 10:53pm Report this commentJames, have now just watched my Fox recording of the debate which included the reactions from the Fox panel (Barnes, Easton, Kristol and Kondrake) and a Frank Luntz N.Hampshire focus group. The latter gave a virtually unanimous thumbs up to Romney (who I too thought very impressive) and an emphatic thumbs down to Huckabee. Thompson I thought looked not just semi but completely detached but Giuliani, I thought, did better than the panel gave him credit for (they were virtually writing him off.) McCain did enough but certainly lacked what was on the night Romney's "star quality." I suspect the result in the primary may depend on how many voters actually watched the telecast.
UcantMakeThisUp
January 8th, 2008 7:41am Report this commentRon Paul was excluded, even though he beat Rudy Giuliani, this is what he did instead at Manchester Town Hall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxldrCsVByA
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