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Is withdrawing the whip enough for Conway?

Fraser Nelson 2:38pm

After saying he wouldn't withdraw the whip from Derek Conway last night, Cameron has finally performed the U-Turn and done so now. Good. A night of dithering is better than a decade of it. So all eyes now on Old Bexley & Sidcup Conservative Association (a rather bashful lot, judging by their photo gallery) - will they deselect him? And what do CoffeeHousers think - is withdrawing the whip punishment enough? Or is it time for him to be deselected like Howard Flight was for talking about tax cuts?

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David

January 29th, 2008 3:22pm Report this comment

Oh for heaven's sake.

Time to go

January 29th, 2008 3:26pm Report this comment

My post code is DA5. Conway has to go. If there is a moment for clear blue water this is it. If you can't out-perform on taxes, spending, NHS, Europe, Northern Rock, wherever, you can on this. If people are saying don't shout so much in PMQs now's your chance. It's 100% fraud.

Nicholas Millman

January 29th, 2008 4:19pm Report this comment

Yes indeed! As Taki might say "Get rid of the bum!"

Then ask GB at PMQ why he hasn't done the same with those arch fiends Harriet Harmon & Wendy Alexander.

Idle

January 29th, 2008 4:21pm Report this comment

Sayonara. There is no alternative. Cameron has already muffed it by supporting him last night, but in the fullness the old Con will be remembered as having been fired for dishonest dealing with taxpayers' money, which is a fate that did not befall so many Labour wrongdoers.

Simon

January 29th, 2008 4:30pm Report this comment

He should be deselected too. Just to step back for a minute. In this media driven age we now seem to be in a position where its more or less impossible for a Party Leader not to end an MP's career the minute any wrong doing is uncovered. Is that in the long term interests of the Country? Who on earth would want to be an MP these days? Conway deserves all he gets. But I am not sure this culture of death by media serves any of us well in the long run.

Pete

January 29th, 2008 4:49pm Report this comment

If Conway is guilty, will he pay the money back?

James

January 29th, 2008 4:50pm Report this comment

The BNP are claiming it was one of their members,Michael Bambrook,who first made the complaint. http://tinyurl.com/2v3ej6

John Taylor

January 29th, 2008 5:01pm Report this comment

I agree Conway needs to go. I hope that the local association do the right thing and deslecet him, or he has the courage to do the right thing and announce that he will not be seeking re-election.

David Lindsay

January 29th, 2008 6:02pm Report this comment

The real scandal exposed by the Derek Conway affair is that positions such as those nominally held by his sons are only open, even when they are being filled properly, to people who can afford to live in Central London on pay of only eleven thousand pounds per annum. In other words, to independently rich people. And even the Green Book restricts them to university graduates. Instead, just as there should be a ban on any party funding except of an individual candidate by resolution of a membership organisation (whether the Midlands Industrial Council, the GMB, or whatever) the name of which would appear in brackets on the ballot paper, so there should also be at least a firm expectation that jobs such as this be filled from a pool maintained by that organisation, which would match the public salary of those thus appointed.

TGF UKIP

January 29th, 2008 6:11pm Report this comment

Stand by folks, I would guess that this is going to bring a lot of very similar worms out of the parliamentary woodwork and the knowledge of this accounts for Dave's hesitancy. He's probably now counting on Labour members being found to be even more culpable.

Mr Leatherhead

January 29th, 2008 6:14pm Report this comment

Cameron did the right thing. No instant judgement...he slept on it (always a good approach)) and then acted decisively. Rather a contract to the GB approach. As for Mr Conway, if what we have read is true, he should be deselected by is local association. No ifs, ands or, buts!

Chuck Unsworth

January 29th, 2008 7:36pm Report this comment

Was it not the case that Conway was interviewed by the Whips this morning, after which Cameron acted? In which case then that is exactly the proper process. Cameron would have been unwise to act over the heads of his own people. Although it has never stopped Brown from doing that to his Ministers.

newmania

January 29th, 2008 11:02pm Report this comment

David Lindsay is of course howling at the moon comparing the Midlands Industrial Council with the GMB. One is an organisation which you volunteer to join and is used to donate without having your name known the other is an organisation you have to join and although the political fund is separate gives the Party with access to Job related organisations an obvious advantage . If it does not then they can have nothing to complain about when those donations arrive individually . It is the coercion that is the problem . The way forward is an end to all donations except individuals under £50,000 same for everyone . But while there is the usual moon bat Lindsay blather on Unions he is right about the problem of access to politics. Clearly the unions cannot have anything to do with it but I think 1 A ban on family members …simple enough this is after all public money 2 Yes , proper salaries paid to entrants . I think we have reached a point where Politics needs a career structure to avoid being the exclusive preserve of the wealthy Oh yes taxi for Mr. Conway ..no question

David Lindsay

January 30th, 2008 2:27pm Report this comment

Who is coerced into joining the GMB, Newmania?

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