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Tuesday, 12th February 2008

They really don't want you to have a referendum

James Forsyth 2:18pm

Labour is clearly rattled by the row over it reneging on its promise of a referendum on the EU Constitution. Not content with threatening to withdraw the whip from Labour MPs who support honouring this manifesto commitment, Labour is engaged in a desperate attempt to discredit the cross-party ‘I want a referendum campaign’.

Europe Minister Jim Murphy is reacting with panic to the planned ballot in his constituency of East Renfrewshire. His local Labour party has sent out a leaflet which is filled with—to put it politely—misleading statements. First, they claim that the ballot has been organised by the Conservative Party—which it hasn’t. Then, they claim that it is not a secret ballot—when it is, run by Electoral Reform Services.

Murphy’s reaction seems positively calm when compared to Andy Slaughter’s. The MP for Acton, Ealing and Shepherds Bush completely lost his rag at a recording of the Week In Westminster last week, storming out of the studio after firing off a choice expletive.

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Faceless Bureaucrat

February 12th, 2008 3:05pm

Andy Slaughter's four-letter explosion says it all - NuLab are on the skids and they know it - even the Conservatives under John Major didn't 'crash & burn' this spectacularly...

TGF UKIP

February 12th, 2008 3:09pm

I hope the "I want a referendum campaign" takes out local Press and radio ads titled "More Labour Lies" and sue the lying sods as well. If they want to fund raise, my hundred quid's ready.

richard j

February 12th, 2008 3:11pm

this government - liars, cheats and incompetent

mart

February 12th, 2008 3:29pm

Also, the Tories and the media should call a lie a lie. Labour and Lib Dems disingenuously claim this is not the Constitution, so that they can say they are released from their obligation under their manifestos to provide a plebiscite. Further to this subject, John Redwood's diary piece today makes especially melancholy reading for anyone who wants to feel good about being British.

David Parker

February 12th, 2008 3:33pm

Let us hope that sooner, rather than later, the general public will become very angry at being treated as complete imbeciles by the present Government, particularly where the EU referendum is concerned. Many people would have been prepared to engage in a serious debate over the pros and cons of the Lisbon Con/Treaty (even despite the attempts of its authors to make it incomprehensible to people and politicians alike),however, the arrogant and contemptuous determination of the Government to over-ride the normal democratic process may well backfire upon Brown. Instead of trying to make a genuinely positive case for further EU integration (if, indeed, there is one), successive labour Europe Ministers have relied upon the limitless repetion of the same lies and false claims, which are so transparently unsupportable that they are an affront to the intelligence of the electorate. So far from making everyone so sick of hearing about the EU, that they would rather discuss anything but this, as was the Government's intention; Brown's blatant arrogance and lack of intergity has now merely increasd public interest in a referendum.

Max Kaye

February 12th, 2008 4:02pm

This is the most important political issue of our generation and it is imperative to keep on the pressure. We should not let the lying bastards lie to us without risking immediate exposure and rebuttal. The new Reform Treaty is substantially the same as the rejected Constitutional Treaty and those opposed to a referendum should be challenged every step of the way.

David Lindsay

February 12th, 2008 5:04pm

You know it's not going to happen (and it would only deliver a Yes vote anyway, after a month of the BBC). So why can't you concentrate on opposing the Treaty itself? Is it just because there'd be no more invitations for you to Black and White Balls with the aristocratic Europhiles who always did run the Tories really, and have now once again stopped being coy about doing so?

Steve the Student

February 12th, 2008 9:37pm

Interestingly, if you look on IWAR's website, there's a little box showing who is backing them, which includes "Labour MPs". So much for it being some kind of dastardly Conservative plot. I wouldn't ordinarily touch anything supported by the Green Party with a bargepole, but desperate times, strange bedfellows and all that.

William Humbold Jr

February 13th, 2008 10:17am

In any case, you can now vote about the EU at www.FreeEurope.info...

Agincourt

February 13th, 2008 1:51pm

The government really are on the skids now if they have to spout lies that even a 3 year-old would recognize instantly as complete falsehoods. Not only does the government seem to have forgotten that the public is watching their outrageous behaviour very closely indeed, but that the annual Council elections are due in early May. It'll be a wipe-out, for certain. And a great boost for non-mainstream political parties, I'll bet. Serves the government, & the sycophantic metropolitan elite that supports them, right - I say!

Terry Stokes

February 14th, 2008 8:06pm

Murphy's mad; stark staring raving mad and clutching at staws to boot. How can a local referendum cost millions - only if the government and the EU "talk up" / exagerate the costs. How come it's a Tory plot when it is a well known FACT that several honest labour and lib dem MP's are involved. It may be a fact that Britain has never had a referendum on any previous european treaty but what has that to do with anything? The Government are trying to ram this Treaty through parliament in the most lieing and deceitful manner possible. They cannot be trusted so the people must be asked to rule on it! This is just another example of the Government's lies and complete loss of integrity for the public! Support the IWAR lobby in London on 27th Feb. and tell them to be honourable men and give us a referendum.

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