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Tuesday, 4th August 2009

By being so cheap, Pound devalues himself

James Forsyth 12:16pm

The Daily Mirror is very exercised by the fact that David Cameron has 12 secretaries. It reports that Cameron has “five correspondence secretaries, two diary secretaries, a personal assistant, two private secretaries, one assistant private secretary and an office secretary.”

This is actually a relatively small number when you consider that Cameron doesn’t, unlike the Prime Minister, have a multitude of civil servants working for him. But Stephen Pound, the quote happy Labour MP, has seen fit to join in with the Mirror’s outrage, telling the paper, "Not even the President of the United States needs 12 secretaries.” Now, a quick look at the White House staff list reveals that the President and the First Lady have a 27 strong correspondence unit and 27 people doing scheduling and advance work for them. In other words, Pound’s comment is misleading and ill-informed. (And no, I’m not suggesting that the leader of the opposition needs a staff as big as the President of the United States. All I’m pointing out is how wrong Pound was).

Pound isn’t the only MP — and it isn’t only Labour MPs — who is happy to lend a quote to any story bashing their opponents regardless of its merits. But with the reputation of politics already so low, shouldn’t MPs be a bit more discriminating?

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Cjamesk

August 4th, 2009 2:27pm Report this comment

It doesn`t matter, no one is listening to this Government anyway.

David Blackburn

August 4th, 2009 2:27pm Report this comment

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David

August 4th, 2009 2:30pm Report this comment

What's more this information has been out there for ages; there's actually a list on the Parliament website of all such staff. And Pound doesn't care about the reputation of politics; he just cares about getting his big, gurning face in front of cameras or in his words into print.

oldtimer

August 4th, 2009 2:36pm Report this comment

It is infantile stuff like this that brings politics and politicians into disrepute. No wonder 99.9% of the public switch off.

Percy

August 4th, 2009 2:47pm Report this comment

I wouldn't worry too much about Stephen Pound, with a majority of only 6,159 I doubt he'll be around after next June and will be rightfully forgotten very quickly.

Kate

August 4th, 2009 2:53pm Report this comment

All these "misleading" quotes smack of desperation.

rmh

August 4th, 2009 2:58pm Report this comment

Stephen Pound is talking rubbish shock.

If you see his lips a moving you knowing he is .....

Conlige suspectos semper habitos

August 4th, 2009 3:04pm Report this comment

The difference is the Conservative Party pays for Cameron's 'secretaries whereas the taxpayer pays for Brown's 'advisors'.

Richard Holloway

August 4th, 2009 3:12pm Report this comment

Where's the journalist checking his quote with the facts and telling the MP he's wrong?

Mike Spilligan

August 4th, 2009 3:21pm Report this comment

Why doesn't Pound highlight the fact that the Cabinet Office alone has 1,279 civil servants, employed at our expense?

Jonathan Cook

August 4th, 2009 3:25pm Report this comment

Is the number of secretaries at any one time, directly proportional to the number of people writing to David Cameron complaining about a Labour government?

Andy Leeds

August 4th, 2009 3:29pm Report this comment

Pound is an idiot. Why listen to a word he says.

And lets be knowing how many staff he employs, and how many he pays for out of his own pocket and how many we - the long suffering taxpayer - have to pay for.

Kevyn Bodman

August 4th, 2009 4:01pm Report this comment

1)It's not a small number.
And:
2)It doesn't matter whether he has 2 or 200. He can run his office as he sees fit.
Unless he is a silly and inadequate man who boasts about many people are working for him because he needs to practise self-aggrandisement then I don't care how big his office staff is.
I am no fan of Cameron because I don't think he is nearly robust enough on policy; but I doubt if he is one of those silly inadequates.

Mirtha Tidville

August 4th, 2009 4:06pm Report this comment

Pound is an arse and a rather stupid one at that.He is, in short, a rent a quote.People like him think this is the way to keep yourself in the public (and voters) eye..Hope he gets booted next May...

Barry

August 4th, 2009 4:08pm Report this comment

Well, technically he is correct. The president of the united states doesn't need 12 secretaries, he needs 54...

Bardirect

August 4th, 2009 4:21pm Report this comment

What's the appearance money for these slots on R4, Sky etc? He does seem to turn up quite a lot.

Tankus

August 4th, 2009 4:45pm Report this comment

never let the truth get in the way of a good sound bite .

Chuck Unsworth

August 4th, 2009 4:54pm Report this comment

Pound again, eh?

The man is a complete clown. I can think of few MPs who one could so accurately describe as a buffoon. He does this sort of faux Mr Angry routine which is neither convincing, nor intimidating nor even particularly funny. Surely he must be able to do better than this? Could we not start a fund to send him to RADA or, as the late Peter Sellers might have suggested, Anywhere?

TrevorsDen

August 4th, 2009 5:26pm Report this comment

Pound is just a rent-a-gob.
I am amazed at the respect he is accorded in some circles of the media.

Bodman - Conservative policy is going to be severely constrained by the need to reduce the deficit. We must hope they are successful in getting more for less. My own hope is that in this first stage we also get a simplification of the tax and benefits system.

The main thing we want is less government not more. Fewer policies are not a bad thing as long as the ones we do have get the state off our back. it seems to me Cameron has been espousing that.

But to be honest I do not care (well I do but other things matter as well) - what our nation needs is the removal of this utterly useless lying and corrupt government.

TrevorsDen

August 4th, 2009 5:37pm Report this comment

BTW - both Pound and The Mirror should realise that Cameron has all these secretaries but (unlike Prescott) he is not feking any of them.

Alex

August 4th, 2009 5:39pm Report this comment

Scary looking bchap, Stephen Pound.

Alex

August 4th, 2009 5:40pm Report this comment

Scary looking chap, Steven Pound.

mitch

August 4th, 2009 5:46pm Report this comment

This fool is just a rentaquote, stick a mic in his face and mention a topic and off he goes.No thoughts just drivel, I just tune him out.

Arthur

August 4th, 2009 5:59pm Report this comment

Cjamesk,

Yes it does matter. Our treasonous politicians lie to us. That matters very much.

Battle 2807

August 4th, 2009 8:09pm Report this comment

Mr Pound would be hard pushed to devalue himself any more than he already has.
Surely no one takes this man seriously any more (apart from Mr Pound????)

Victor Southern

August 4th, 2009 8:19pm Report this comment

Mr Punch conveniently forgot to mention that the taxpayer does not pay the salaries of Cameron's staff.

They do, however, pay for Brown's staff and his host of spin doctors and political advisors - all obviously poor value for money.

Austin Barry

August 4th, 2009 8:28pm Report this comment

I like Pound. He is Mr Punch personified.

2trueblue

August 5th, 2009 12:55am Report this comment

IS this news?

Monkey Chops

August 5th, 2009 12:49pm Report this comment

Grandpa Munster. Back to the crypt with you!

Chuck Unsworth

August 5th, 2009 8:09pm Report this comment

And Pound always reminds me of Sam the Eagle (in so many ways):

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/0/02/Sam02.jpg

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