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Wednesday, 5th August 2009

Harman-a-rama

Peter Hoskin 11:35am

Harriet Harman is everywhere in today's papers.  I mean, just look at the stories in the Times.  On their cover, they have news that she's clashing with her colleagues and civil servants over new rape laws:

"Labour’s deputy leader used her position as Gordon Brown’s stand-in to demand a more radical overhaul of the law, such as targets for prosecutors and police to secure more convictions. She has the backing of Vera Baird, the Solicitor-General, but Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary and Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, do not want to widen the terms of reference and the review has been postponed...

...According to Whitehall officials, she tore up plans to begin a study of the rape laws after clashing with civil servants. 'There’s been a bit of a kerfuffle over the substance,' said one. 'It’s been looked at again.'"

Inside, there's this snippet about Labour's women-only short lists:

"Party officials complain that Harriet Harman is rigidly enforcing a policy that women should be fielded in half of winnable seats in each area. It means that local parties in areas where there are few sitting women Labour MPs are given little choice over selection as the party’s high command tries to meet the quota."

And Alice Thompson adds a commentary which begins:

"Finally we have a prime minister again. Harriet Harman has filled a vacuum. We have had little leadership for a year, and suddenly we know where we stand. You are probably appalled, you think she is ghastly, hideous, ranting. But, admit it, at least she is a conviction politician."

Of course, Gordon Brown will not be amused.  I'm sure he'd have preferred his stand-ins to just "get on with the job," and not overshadow his own little announcements.  But, instead, Harman has taken to the stage with gusto, and put on a performance for everyone to hear.  To be honest, it's all quite embarrassing: one of the surest signs yet that many within government have completely given up on Gordon, and are focusing on the post-election leadership battle.  And it could well get worse.  After Harman, it's a certain Lord Mandelson; someone who - need it be said? - is not known for shunning the limelight.

UPDATE: Adam Boulton has written a post saying that Peter Mandelson had his turn as stand-in next week, whereas as I thought - and say above - that it's next week.  We've just called Downing St for confirmation, and they say that it is actually Mandelson next week.

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Penfold

August 5th, 2009 11:42am Report this comment

Ye Gods, who will rid us of this turbulent harridin.

Chuck Unsworth

August 5th, 2009 11:48am Report this comment

Mandelson isn't going to allow Harman to lord it over him. He'll be working on her downfall right now.

It'll be fun to watch.

Chris lancashire

August 5th, 2009 12:10pm Report this comment

Slightly off topic, but how can you have TARGETS for convictions? Either the court finds someone guilty or not?

Simon

August 5th, 2009 12:18pm Report this comment

This could all be part of a cunning plan to make us value Gordon all the more. A month of a few alternatives might just improve his ratings - just by highlighting how bad the rest of them are!!

David Cann

August 5th, 2009 12:21pm Report this comment

A couple of links for you:

http://www.harrietharmansucks.com/

http://www.angryharry.com/esrapeillusion.htm

C Powell

August 5th, 2009 12:21pm Report this comment

Surely Harman has to be a Tory sleeper now successfully executing her mission to make sure the Labour party loses all remaining votes?

TrevorsDen

August 5th, 2009 12:23pm Report this comment

Interesting that just as the Tories hold an open primary - we see labour seeking to impose its will on who should be a candidate.

An apt metaphor for the difference between the parties which will not be lost on the electorate - provided the media publicise it.

It would seem Brown is taking Sugar's advice too literally - by lining up his apprentice deputies and setting them the task of running the country. He has to fire himself first of course for there to be a vacancy.

Ray

August 5th, 2009 12:40pm Report this comment

Would you trust this woman with an Enabling Act?

Stepney

August 5th, 2009 12:44pm Report this comment

Fiddle, fiddle, fiddle.

Or to adapt a phrase:

'New Labour Politics: the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it wrongly, and then applying unsuitable remedies'.

Occasional Ostrich

August 5th, 2009 12:46pm Report this comment

A 'conviction' politician?

Well, not yet, but perhaps when the ole bill are freed to use their brains again they'll think of something?

Puhleeze!!!

Grumpy Old Man

August 5th, 2009 12:49pm Report this comment

La Harman pulled exactly the same stunt when she was last left as doorkeeper to No.10. Where's the story? Apart from "Harman Exceeds Her Authority Again! It is, after all, August.

Austin Barry

August 5th, 2009 12:52pm Report this comment

Harridan Harpie with her cheeky little dimples and games mistress charm deserves her hour prancing in the limelight, trilling inanities before the curtain descends on the Labour panto probably for decades, possibly forever.

Fergus Pickering

August 5th, 2009 12:55pm Report this comment

RA-RA Hatty. Stick it to them, Baby. Here usa a list of Labour Leaders since Callaghan

Michael Foot
Kinnock the pillock
John Smith (for about a fortnight befoer the Grim Reaper etc)
Tony Blair
Gordon Brown

Now why exactly is Hattie out of place in this list? Is she less mad? Less dishonest? Less of a drain on the public purse? Less physically repulsive?

Angela

August 5th, 2009 1:01pm Report this comment

Harriet Harman is amazing! Not only has she alienated men, she's alienated any sane woman. Long may she reign! Our Dear Leader is making sure Labour won't get re-elected, the Dear Deputy Leader of the Labour Party is backing it up in spades! I worry about her, I really do. Shouldn't she be on meds or something?

Chris Gilmour

August 5th, 2009 1:05pm Report this comment

Interesting too that in the Tory's open primary they freely chose a woman.

Richard

August 5th, 2009 1:12pm Report this comment

Harperson is just a gift for the Tories. I doubt they can believe their good luck. She's well on the way to becoming the new Michael Foot, but without the charm... I just love equality from the St Pauls educated niece of Lady Longford, scion of the Chamberlain family (as in Joseph) etc.

Clerics used to have the best line in hypocrisy. But their non-theistic heirs and successors have outdone them.

logdon

August 5th, 2009 1:19pm Report this comment

"Party officials complain that Harriet Harman is rigidly enforcing a policy that women should be fielded in half of winnable seats in each area. It means that local parties in areas where there are few sitting women Labour MPs are given little choice over selection as the party’s high command tries to meet the quota."

I notice the 'winnable seats'. Mustn't make it to hard must we? And the laughable bit is they'll still lose.

And how many of the original Blair Babes are still in position?

She is crazy. If snatching catastrophic defeat from the jaws of acceptable defeat is her plan, so be it.

In the immortal words of Alfred E Newman, why should we worry?

mac

August 5th, 2009 1:25pm Report this comment

Whom the Gods would destroy they mischievously inflict Harman . . .

logdon

August 5th, 2009 1:27pm Report this comment

Chris lancashire
August 5th, 2009 12:10pm

Slightly off topic, but how can you have TARGETS for convictions? Either the court finds someone guilty or not?"

Not if the goalposts of conviction are manipulated.

Say if more credence is afforded to a victim statement than the defendant's, as in our hate crime law, it's bound to affect outcome.

This is nothing to do with guilt or innocence, it's just numbers.

logdon

August 5th, 2009 1:32pm Report this comment

And remember of course that she's Lord Longford's niece.

Yes, that Lord Longford who was the only person in Britain to think that Myra Hindley was an innocent babe in arms worthy of redemption.

A case indeed, proving that barking insanity can be hereditory.

Tiberius

August 5th, 2009 1:39pm Report this comment

Chris L: you have identified the problem with Harridan's cunning plan and no doubt she will, in the fullness of time, spot it too.

Evidence.

So the next diktat from Headmistress will be to jail all men, only releasing them if either a) they can prove they've never thought of copulation with a woman, or b) they have their scrotum, complete with contents, surgically removed by a former female Gestapo interrogator. (And let me tell you there aren't too many of them around).

Jeremy

August 5th, 2009 2:05pm Report this comment

She's like one of those mad, axe-wielding women from a Friday the 13th flick. You know...Jason's mother...or perhaps in this case "The Mad Hattie" might be a more appropriate title.

"...such as targets for prosecutors and police to secure more convictions."

Targets? For rape convictions? Do you mean irrespective of whether or not the people banged up for it are actually guilty or innocent? What planet is this woman on? Don't tell me....Planet Hattie.

"Harriet Harman is rigidly enforcing a policy that women should be fielded in half of winnable seats in each area. It means that local parties in areas where there are few sitting women Labour MPs are given little choice over selection as the party’s high command tries to meet the quota."

The Mad Hattie strikes again. Does it not occur to her that a measure like this will simply reinforce gender apartheid? Or is that in fact its intention? Has it not occurred to her that candidates ought not to be selected on the basis of their gender but on the basis of their merit and ability? Let Labour follow her insane and destructive policy if they wish - the voters who can see it for what it is will simply come over to the Tories. In their droves...

"...and suddenly we know where we stand."

Yes. We stand beneath the sway of The Mad Hattie, grinding her bloody axe...

Marbury

August 5th, 2009 2:09pm Report this comment

Can I suggest a moratorium on Harman posts? They seem to bring out the most revolting strain of misogyny amongst the CH community.

Verity

August 5th, 2009 2:55pm Report this comment

I rarely agree with Chuck Unsworth, but I think his comment above is astute and on the mark. Mandelson will be working on the end of Hattie Hormone as I write.

Marbury - or may I call you Holier-Than-Thou-And-Twice-as-Stupid? - You seem to be of that facile, barely sentient, mind-set whose simple-minded philosophy is, if one dislikes one person it cannot be a rational judgement about that person's qualities. It must be something to do with the group that person belongs to.

I don't like John Bercow. This does not mean that I am prejudiced against short men. I do not like Barack Obama. That does not mean I have an senseless dislike of black or bi-racial people.

I loathe Harpy Hormone because she is an irrational, nasty, controlling piece of work. Some of the most vivid descriptions of Harpy here have come from other women.

Conclusion: you're a troll. You may even be Mr Harpy. If so, my condolences.

John Lea

August 5th, 2009 2:59pm Report this comment

Marbury: I don't detect any misogyny in the above posts at all. Perhaps you could quote examples. I think, as Angela hints, Harman is a unifying influence in British politics: she's viewed with utter contempt by both men and women.

Raffles

August 5th, 2009 3:01pm Report this comment

If there is a more incompetent politician in the UK, and we are not short of candidates, i would like to be informed. Harman is a joke and though i am generally not one for conspiracy theories, there may be something in the idea mooted that she is a Tory Trojan horse.

Chuck Unsworth

August 5th, 2009 3:09pm Report this comment

@ Marbury

It's not the posts that do that, it's the woman (advisedly!) herself. And far from 'bring out', her actions engender such responses.

JohnAnt

August 5th, 2009 3:28pm Report this comment

Targets for Prosecutors??
So that's 'Innocent until proven statistically under-represented in guilty-verdict delivery.'

Verity

August 5th, 2009 3:41pm Report this comment

That said, I'm warming to the notion of Harpy Hormone for Labour Leader. This will leave mainstream British voters with a choice of two malign people who wish to finish off the nation state and build a brave new world of One Worlder government. Harriet and Dave.

So far, I like the narrative. This would mean millions of votes sluicing through to UKIP and the BNP. Labour would be stone dead. Hopefully, once free of Dave and the gang, the Tories could revert to Conservatism.

David Cann

August 5th, 2009 3:46pm Report this comment

Jeremy said "Does it not occur to her that a measure like this will simply reinforce gender apartheid? Or is that in fact its intention?"

Yes, that is exactly the intention. Harman is a feminist. Feminism's declared intention is the destruction of patriarchy which, in day-to-day terms, means getting rid of fathers, marriage, families and demonising men. Most people seem to think it's all about fairness and legal rights for women. In truth, feminism is darkly psychotic and deeply destructive.

I would prefer it if comments on Harman were less childishly nasty and reflected the serious danger of her ideological obsession.

Matt

August 5th, 2009 3:54pm Report this comment

The more of Harperson we get on the front pages the less votes Labour will get. So let's all get writing to the dead tree press urging even more coverage of this highly unappealing harpie of a woman now please.

mac

August 5th, 2009 3:57pm Report this comment

A rare but predictably condescending visit from Marbury to remind us how high he sits astride his spavined charger . . .

Tiberius

August 5th, 2009 4:08pm Report this comment

Marbury could be pushing out the boundaries of irony, of course.

Fergus Pickering

August 5th, 2009 4:48pm Report this comment

Come on, Marbury, I ALWAYS come out on my white charger in defence of Hatty and the little red rodent. Misogyny is the natural state of the ageing male, but me, I think I'm in love. Move over Dromey.

Tiberius

August 5th, 2009 5:04pm Report this comment

http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=148993703

Do you think Harridan has seen this story?

james

August 5th, 2009 5:30pm Report this comment

This is how Harriet Harman works ...

She makes up some phoney or highly-exaggerated claims to suggest that millions of women are being 'abused' by men in some way; physical, sexual, emotional, financial etc etc.

Indeed, she will do anything to keep this idea of, "men forever abusing women," in the headlines.

By doing this, Harriet Harman inflames many millions of women into feeling antagonistic towards men. And then, of course, she gets their support for her own alleged endeavours in battling against these wicked men.

She and her feminist friends have used this tactic for over 20 years. And it is a tactic that has worked very well indeed.

stereodog

August 5th, 2009 5:36pm Report this comment

Verity,
To clarify is it just coincidence that out of all the people on your list of dislikes it is only Harriet Harman that you give an unpleasant nickname to? I wouldn't dream of accusing you of misogyny but I think that you demonstrate Marbury's point that a lot of criticism aimed at Harman is wounding personally as well as politically. Seeing as I will be accused of being holier than thou anyway I'll go out with a bang with "Do unto others as you have done unto you".

Verity

August 5th, 2009 6:59pm Report this comment

Stereodog "is it just coincidence that out of all the people on your list of dislikes it is only Harriet Harman that you give an unpleasant nickname to?"

Yes. It is.

"a lot of criticism aimed at Harman is wounding personally as well as politically."

What on earth is wrong with wounding Harman personally? She's a nasty piece of work and is using her position to try to strongarm the electorate into an abnormal belief system.

However, in defence of my ability and willingness to be wounding to all my enemies, which is socialism and the left, I mentioned once that cameron means 'shrimp' in Spanish, but it was weak and sank without trace.

Moraymint

August 5th, 2009 7:42pm Report this comment

I read somewhere that the set of Westminster politicans' salaries and their lavish expenses (valid amounts and those theived from us) comes to over £90 million pa.

With Harman carrying on like this, the value-for-money offered by politicians becomes more questionable by the day.

It's as if the MPs' expenses scandal and the general furore that accompanied it never happened. What does it take to get our political class to realise the utter contempt with which we hold them?

stereodog

August 5th, 2009 7:48pm Report this comment

Verity,
Consider my aspersions on your consistency withdrawn!

Andy

August 5th, 2009 8:46pm Report this comment

Targets for convictions? How can you do that without the incentive to find people guilty regardless? A general election can't come soon enough before we're all jailed for daring to breathe!

Andrew

August 5th, 2009 10:00pm Report this comment

I have to say that Harriet has my vote for next labour leader. If she took over they would never be re-elected!!

JohnAnt

August 6th, 2009 1:39am Report this comment

Harriet knows that she cannot be defeated in Camberwell and Peckham except by an Act of God. She sees herself as the lone survivor in the bunker, the tricoteuse at the guillotine at the end of the Reign of Terror, and she's obviously decided to go for broke by promoting whatever Red Duchess policies she chooses ('Off with his head! And all the other bits as well!') as she knows she can't be sacked before the election.
She is indeed completely bonkers, a toxic compo of Rosa Luxemburg and Corrie Aquino. But - to use the NuLab catchphrase - she's relaxed about being bonkers.
A true case-study in malign influences, Watson.

Karla

August 6th, 2009 4:08am Report this comment

Those who God wants to destroy first make them mad. Now, where did
I hear this last time?

john miller

August 6th, 2009 5:39am Report this comment

I feel sorry for Jack.

Surrounded all day by the crumpet that dominates the trades union leadership and then coming home to this.

No wonder the £3.5 million escaped his attention.

Nicholas

August 6th, 2009 2:07pm Report this comment

"New Man" Marbury: "They seem to bring out the most revolting strain of misogyny amongst the CH community."

So what? That's just on a blog and fortunately not yet subject to the thought and speech control facilitated by useful idiots like you. What's this? We should have a blog where posts conform to Marbury's of what is and what isn't acceptable? You must be a New Labour cabinet minister.

This government has managed to bring out many far more revolting strains of things than misogyny but have imposed them by coercion and legislative guile on the whole population - one being Harmthenation's personal and potty views on passive-aggressive feminism. I have commented before on the New Labour hegemony's sanctimonious tendency to translate their individual personal belief systems into aspirational government policy to be imposed on everyone else. Harmthenation is one of the worst offenders - but they are all at. They have no real concept of the responsibilities of state, impartiality of judgement, putting the public interest before their own, etc. To them the end - communist totalitarianism - justifies any means.

I'm more concerned about the revolting strain of lefto-fascists currently in power - so can we have a moritorium on them instead please?

Jock

August 6th, 2009 4:14pm Report this comment

Harriet's idea re the unacceptabilty of a male only leadership duo could be said to be a neccessary but insufficiency proposition. What about condemning heterosexual only leadership duos?

Given Harriet's recent high profile utterances and her cry for gender euality, is she a cow in a china shop?

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