Miliband's back with another vision

Malcolm

When politicians start talking about "vision" you know full well there isn't any - especially where Miliprat is concerned.

Chuck Unsworth

They're all halucinating, aren't they? Is it the drugs or what? All these 'visions' everywhere. I mean I knew that Brown was getting 'the voices', but now Millibeep is getting 'visions' as well. Next up, Manifestations and Ectoplasm.

Liz Brown

has he been at the magic mushrooms again? All these visions are quite worrying

Hereford

Yeah! Pickles should be one of them.

James J

Is this the start of a “Post Political Party” age to go with the Post Democratic E.U model?
Why should anyone join a political party if they have no more influence on candidates or policies than a non-member?

Publius

He's such a tedious lightweight.

George Laird

Dear Peter

"Miliband's back with another vision".

Must have been to specsavers!

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

Mike, Brighton

Yawn, as my teenage daughter would say - It's just so over David, your leadership chances are just so 2008

John Page

What next? Is Bananarama going to publish a book called 'The Plan'?

Chris lancashire

This bloke's had more visions than a medieval saint.
And a Labour Prty lead by a geek instead of an egotistical bully, that's a vision.

Milliband is the best advert yet for banning professional, full time politicians.

sarahsmith232

if miliband genuinely had any interest in listening to the British voter and not just dismissing us as a nothing more than an annoying irrelevance he'd have done something about Labour's shameful immigration policies years ago. Labour has handed enormous great swathes of Manchester - where i'm from -over to hostile, fundamentalist Islam. the area where i live is now just drowning in Somalian's. the area where i live is, or was, a relatively affluent area. absolutely every single housing association flat is given to an asylum seeker. it's a 20yr waiting list for Britons.
absolutely disgusting. miliband isn't interested in listening, we've been screaming out about this for years.

HJ

How is Millipede's "Vision" different from that which Gordon Brown promised when he refused a general election on becoming PM on the grounds that "I need time to set out my vision".

We can't tell, of course, because we have no idea what Brown's "vision" is, other than a government of lies, incompetence and vacuity.

Denis Cooper

"... why not a system of registered voters as in the US to create the basis for primaries?"

Because the state has no business inquiring into the political views of individual citizens, or recording their membership of or support for a political party, unless there are strong grounds for suspecting that a political party is in fact a criminal conspiracy which merits investigation by the police or secret services.

And if such information was routinely available to state bodies, then inevitably it would be abused by the state; and it would be leaked, and abused by others.

And therefore far from increasing voter engagement with political parties and parties, it would deter many people who value their privacy, and possibly their jobs, or even in the extreme their lives, from joining or assisting or in any way getting involved with any political party.

This is one reason why we have a secret ballot at elections: so that electors can vote without fear of reprisals if they vote the "wrong" way.

Of course if the Labour party wants to compile its own list of people who are registered as party supporters, even though they are not actually party members, then it is perfectly free to do so provided that it complies with the legislation on the protection of personal data.

Gile

John Page: please don't tarnish Bananarama with the taint of NuLabour.

Fearless Frank

The three 'v's of the true mystic - Visions voices and visitations.

We know about the visions, he's probably hearing voices - now how about a visitation? Preferably from the men in white coats, who'll have their work cut out in the Downing Street area.

Mrs Proudie of Barchester

And the Boy David, having thought about denying the Gord at least thrice but repeatedly bunking it at the last minute, took himself into the wilderness where, after 40 days and nights of blue-sky thinking he dragged himself out-of-the-box and had a vision of the Virgin Mandy The vision spake unto him and said, 'You are not the Messiah - I am. You are just a very naughty boy who should be chastised with rods.'
(St. Blair's Gospel Chpt. 4 v 3-6)

mac

" . . dipping his toe into the leadership water . ."

What again? After the first time when he dipped the same toe and backed off afeared to take the plunge? Or the last time when Mummy Mandy wouldn't even let him approach the water's edge to follow little Jimmy Purnell?

Miliband's an arch-bottler, a perennial sixth-former who likes the sound of his own voice. He's better suited to lecturing in an ex-Polytechnic seat of learning (the New Labour "everyone in two shall have a degree" variety) rhapsodising about Gramsci, the Frankfurt School illuminati, Marx or whoever else stimulates his 'visions'.

Sevo Slade

And in the meantime the British Ambassador is sent to Ahmadinejad's coronation ceremony whereas real Foreign Ministers (like Germany's) kept their ambassadors away. One wishes aparatchniks like Millepede could at least take a stab at competence in the day job before claiming "visions" left and right....

2trueblue

Hasn't Milly heard that we already have Gordy, Mandy, and Harmy?

David Lindsay

What is Tribune coming to, giving house room to David Miliband? It cannot be out of loyalty to the memory of his father. Tribune is not The Morning Star, any more than The Red Flag (not sung at the funeral either of Donald Dewar or of Robin Cook) is The Internationale (sung at both of those funerals).

Anyway, his conversion to primaries would be rather more credible if it were not for the fact that, as told to me by a constituent of his and erstwhile member of his Constituency Labour Party, even the local council candidates in South Shields are not chosen locally, but by Milly’s London office.