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Friday, 7th August 2009

Labour contra Harriet

Peter Hoskin 12:40pm

Woah.  The anti-Harman brigade have come out in force today, supplying quotes to the Sun which draw comparisons between her and the Taleban.  Here's the key passage:

"Many Labour figures agree she would be a disaster for the party's fortunes.

One senior figure told The Sun: 'If Harriet becomes leader it would be the end of the Labour Party. A number of us believe we have to take steps to stop it happening.

Harriet is only concerned with number one. She is a fundamentalist, she's like the Taliban when it comes to driving through her own agenda.'"

Now, we're no great fans of Harman here at Coffee House.  But it's still pretty surprising to see a Taleban comparison made by people who are nominally on the same side as her.  It also highlights the problem that Harman has created for Brown: her grandstanding and positioning this week were bad enough in themselves, but they could also have kickstarted a round of backbiting and counter-operations to last all summer.

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Siloh

August 7th, 2009 12:50pm Report this comment

Handbags at dawn.

Hereford

August 7th, 2009 12:56pm Report this comment

Last all Summer? Summer's been and gone. It's global warming you know, evidenced by, well cold wet summers. :o)

Sally Chatterjee

August 7th, 2009 1:01pm Report this comment

Meanwhile unemployment is rising, the national debt soars, the schools are failing and trust in politicians is at an all time low.

It would be nice if Ministers could spare a thought for their country, instead of their party and their career ambitions. It seems the moment Brown goes on holiday, those left on the deck of HMS Britannia can't stop positioning themselves for the top job.

A J Scott

August 7th, 2009 1:02pm Report this comment

Wonderful. These idiots will never learn not to display their idiocy in public - luckily for us, the ordinary people and voters.

parcacelsus

August 7th, 2009 1:02pm Report this comment

If this is their opinion of one of their own colleagues, just imagine the regard their hold for those outside of the Labour Party.

A scorched earth policy against the Tories doesn't seem as unlikely now.

EyeSee

August 7th, 2009 1:12pm Report this comment

She is mad. Tied up with idiotic, ill considered opinions of an adolescent nature, Harman also puts this nonsense into play with socialist ideology -eg she spouts first and then tries to fit the facts to her opinion. Consider; everything about the 'socialist' is based on idea first. And being right about everything (and with purity of motivation in their hearts) emboldens them to talk absolute rot with aloof authority. The only reason to pay a Labour MP £65K (and the rest!) is if they promised to go away.

Rhoda Klapp

August 7th, 2009 1:13pm Report this comment

I went to the doentist's this morning. Naturally there wasn't much to read in the waiting room. I skimmed New Scientist, AGW claptrap for the most part, then I had no choice but Hello Magazine. NOTHING in that august publication was as trivial as some of the August posts here at Coffee House.
Of which this and the one below are prime examples.

Here's what I propose: The day there is no reported Labour in-fighting for an entire 24 hours, put THAT up as a headline. Otherwise, ignore it.

Silent Hunter

August 7th, 2009 1:21pm Report this comment

Perhaps this is why The Dark Lord has taken over the running of Labour whilst Der KlunckenFuhrer is away planting trees and generally trying to persuade people, with his special rictus grin, that he is, in fact, a 'human being' LOL (fat chance!)

Clearly Hatty can't be trusted . . .but isn't it fun, watching the Labour Party 'slowly' imploding!
The vermin are turning in on themselves . . . which is great, because it prevents them biting us with their stupid 'laws' and other assorted farcical legislation.

Labour have ceased to 'govern' (thank God) and are simply using up air and food until they are destroyed at the General Election.

With any luck, after June 2010 - the Labour Party will simply cease to exist.

Austin Barry

August 7th, 2009 1:31pm Report this comment

Game on. I expect though to see the triumph of No. 10's partly laddish, partly fey, culture: while many in the Government are friends of Dorothy, few are chums of Harridan Harpy. Indeed, she may even validate their preferences. So why is the Harmonizer bent on committing political suicide as a shaheed for rampant feminism? Where's Prof. Greer when you need her to explain the inexplicable?

Chris lancashire

August 7th, 2009 1:34pm Report this comment

Great choice, Harman or Milliband.

Occasional Ostrich

August 7th, 2009 1:36pm Report this comment

they could also have kickstarted a round of backbiting and counter-operations to last all summer.

Aw - - - what a pity.

John Lea

August 7th, 2009 1:41pm Report this comment

Oh get a life! Is she any more ridiculous than Alan Duncan? No.

Grumpy Old Man

August 7th, 2009 1:45pm Report this comment

Harriet is the true face of "progressive" politics. Long may she be given print space to remind us of the true intentions of the Left.

Hawkeye

August 7th, 2009 2:10pm Report this comment

Sod Harriet. Why are you not reporting this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8189293.stm

"Business Secretary Lord Mandelson has taken over the day-to-day running of Britain, although he is still abroad."

Fergus Pickering

August 7th, 2009 2:11pm Report this comment

My summer's been very nice, thank you very much, lots of sun and butterflies and quite a lot of bees. Kent's the place to live.

Oh, if Harriet becomes leader of the Labour Party then that means the end of the Labour Party. Sounds good to me RA-RA Hatty! GO! GO! GO!

Ray

August 7th, 2009 2:14pm Report this comment

She's the 'Peckham Candidate'.

Born into a respectable and privileged family, unbeknown to those around her she was kidnapped one weekend whilst barely out of the elite St Paul's Girls School and subjected to extensive brainwashing by researchers from Conservative Central Office.

The young Harriet was then released as a sleeper agent to participate in all manner of trendy left-wing causes before being elected as a Labour MP in 1982.

Eventually she would rise all the way to the leadership of the Labour Party itself - there to finally execute the Tories' long-term goal of transforming this once formidable political movement into a complete and utter laughing stock.

James J

August 7th, 2009 2:26pm Report this comment

A battle between socialist Aristos—Milliband umpteen generations of European Marxists and Harman from one of our own eccentric aristocratic families: the Longfords.---“The Working Class can kiss my…”

Karla

August 7th, 2009 2:29pm Report this comment

Given the choice, some could opt for the Taliban.

logdon

August 7th, 2009 2:46pm Report this comment

"Now, we're no great fans of Harman here at Coffee House. But it's still pretty surprising to see a Taleban comparison made by people who are nominally on the same side as her. "

The left and it's allies always reach for the most stretched and ridiculous superlative, hence Israelis are nazi's and any critisism of immigration is fascist racism.

Now, just like maddened lab rats sensing a rodent armageddon, they're even chewing chunks out of themselves.

Any casual glance at CiF will confirm this linguistic trend. It's as if they've just managed to learn a word then it's used, time after bloody cliche'd time until you just don't go there anymore.

Too boring. Too monomanically tribalist. Too juvenile. Too completely wrong.

It's what they do. And why? Because it used to work. Every time.

Not any more.

Right now a bit of a turf war is going on on the west coast of America over the Joker/Obama/ Socialist posters which have sprung up in LA.

First reaction the Obamaniacs reach for? Yep, you've guessed it! It's Racist!

The most convolution known to man of how semantics operates is employed in defending that stance, but it's not working.

The whole thing is reaching an well deserved opposing discredit.

And about time. We've had enough. Orwell as fiction is mesmerising reading. As a Government operating system it reinforces his prescient warning and obviously stinks.

By the way this post is in no remote way any furtherance of Harman's innocence. Just that there are far better ways of expressing our disdain than this dullard and repetitive socialist cant.

Malcolm

August 7th, 2009 2:53pm Report this comment

"One senior figure told The Sun: 'If Harriet becomes leader it would be the end of the Labour Party."

We live in hope.

chris

August 7th, 2009 3:01pm Report this comment

She behaves as if the last 12 years has not happened. Is she thick as well? I say bring it on, you never know, the party might be interestingly different under her. And she will have the brilliant Jack Droney (who?) to guide her along. Who would she choose as shadow chancellor? Amy Winehouse? And for Archbishopress of Canterbury?

Jack

August 7th, 2009 3:24pm Report this comment

'Daily Mail' today on Harman as PM (by David Thomas):

"My Government will bring forward legislation at the start of its first parliamentary session to ensure that a man may be prosecuted - with a minimum 100 per cent conviction-rate - for any 'romantic' act not preceded by a full risk-assessment, a signed contract of consent - and a Breathalyser test.
What's more, any man who tries to seduce a woman by means of sexist gifts such as flowers, chocolates, jewellery or poems, shall be arrested for unfair inducement.
"Over time, following appropriate consultation with a broad range of women's groups, we will also be seeking further ways of preventing men from having their wicked way with women.
"These may include putting bromide into drinking water instead of fluoride, and precautionary sterilisation of all males at birth.
All my policies will, of course, be reasonable and proportionate."

logdon

August 7th, 2009 3:50pm Report this comment

chris
August 7th, 2009 3:01pm

You give Amy Winehouse a bad name. She may be a victim of her own addictions, or putting it more plainly, a pisshead junkie but at least she has talent.

Verity

August 7th, 2009 3:56pm Report this comment

I wonder if she's called her cousin Dave for assistance, given that he has made such a spectacular success of running the Conservative Party.

Austin Barry - Does Dorothy have a lot of friends on the Labour benches? I didn't know that.

Chuck Unsworth

August 7th, 2009 4:05pm Report this comment

I heard her being 'interviewed' by Jenni Murray on Woman's Hour the other day. Now, most of it was predictable - the sycophancy, the grandstanding, the stance that all men are habitual multiple rapists etc. But what was remarkable was the astounding lack of any intellectual depth to anything Harman had to impart to the nation. Worse, much of it was factually wrong - and disprovable. In short it was just a litany of wild assertions. So here we have a Deputy Prime Minister (or whatever the Title is these days) openly lying - without the slightest contradiction by Murray, who is either complicit or incompetent.

Is this at all unusual, I ask myself.

Loathsome bigot that she is, who would change places with Mr Dromey, eh?

logdon

August 7th, 2009 4:39pm Report this comment

And, as if on cue? didn't take long, did it?

http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2009/08/obamas-healthcare-reform.html

Obama, healthcare and swastikas

The longer a debate goes on, the higher the probability that a comparison with Hitler or Nazism will be hurled into the mix.

So states Godwin’s Law, and so, this week, followed the healthcare debate in the US.

Nancy Pelosi upped the stakes on Wednesday by accusing protestors against Obama’s reforms of wearing swastikas.

"I think they’re AstroTurf, you be the judge," she said. "They’re carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare."

logdon

August 7th, 2009 4:47pm Report this comment

"Chuck Unsworth
August 7th, 2009 4:05pm

I heard her being 'interviewed' by Jenni Murray on Woman's Hour the other day."

Enough said. The image is creating an embolism in my head.

Jack

August 7th, 2009 5:08pm Report this comment

An update: Harman's husband Dromey is, of course, an exception to her anti-men discrimination:

'Daily Mail'-

"Harman gets a House husband: Deputy PM's other half lined up for safe seat."

"Harriet Harman has spent her two weeks running the country moaning about the competence of men in public life.

"But perhaps her husband Jack Dromey is something of an exceptional case.

"Senior Labour sources say he is being lined up for a safe Labour seat at the next Election.

"They claim the Unite union boss will be parachuted in at the last minute as a reward for supporting Gordon Brown."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1204739/Harman-gets-House-husband-Deputy-PMs-half-lined-safe-seat.html#ixzz0NVuVfBJD

DSR

August 7th, 2009 6:23pm Report this comment

Verity - I shall assume that, for once, your comment is not tongue in cheek.

Welcome back to The Conservative Party, 2009

Verity

August 7th, 2009 7:42pm Report this comment

DSR - Not while Socialist One Worlder Dave's in charge of the Tories!

Greavsie

August 7th, 2009 10:04pm Report this comment

Rod Liddle is WRONG! It's not the sexist name Harperson - it must be the non-sexist HARPERCHILD. And he keeps using SHE and HER. Please! IT is the correct non-sexist term that should be used. Typical M*n.

Tyranosaurus

August 7th, 2009 11:27pm Report this comment

Please tell me how this is different to what we have now - the labour party is already heading for disaster with more than 60% of its vote dissappearing in Norwich North. GB is only concerned with number 1 and retaining office. the only difference that I can see is that Harriet has and agenda that involves policy (albeit a wrong one) Gordon does not.

Fergus Pickering

August 8th, 2009 5:12am Report this comment

Oh, I don't know, Chuck. She might be very nice at home. Perhaps Hatty has no intellectual depth. That makes her wildly different from all those men, does it? Which men? Oh, Jack Straw, John Prescott, Alistair Darling, Ed Balls, old Uncle Tom Cobbley and all. Thosemen. About the mad axeman Broon I do not even speak. But of coursewe've lost that intellectual Titan, the sainted Tony Blair. I was forgetting him.

James J

August 8th, 2009 9:55am Report this comment

The legacy of “Feminism” may be half the boards of our PLCs having women directors, by law, but any of them that have children may live to see their granddaughters in Burkas.

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