Word from inside Question Time: Griffin "humiliated"

Nicholas

"All other parties have a moral compass."

Presume that was Straw. But in the case of New Labour that moral compass is subject to some odd swings.

Wilhelm

''Humilated''

I dont think so .

Wilhelm

Humilated

More like the bias in the media has been humilated

AngloWelshDragon

Unfortunately most people don't want to go where labour's moral compass points!

Anne Wotana Kaye

The programme has just started, and I am interested at the absence of the "Roses and Cream" of British womanhood. Are British, white women too involved with domestic affairs to sit and discuss on a panel, or are they legless down at the pub? Also, Churchill took the time to visit the Oswald Moseleys when they were imprisoned, leaving young children without their parents. Jack Straw's father was also imprisoned, a man too humane to fight against Hitler. At least the Moseleys, whatever their personal political views were, most definitely were not traitors, and given the chance Oswald would have been a brave and loyal soldier for Britain. Straw, it seems has the same, dare I say it, cowardice of his leftist father.

Noa Zrk

An interesting show trial. Full of sound bites and fury, signifying nothing. I feel privileged to have funded such high toned disdain. Has the frighteningly green-tied Dimbelby managed to keep his job as grand inquisitor? Bby the way nice to see that old street terrorist Tariq Ali, suitably camoflaged in the diverse right on audience of is still alive and well and as bilious as ever.

Obnoxio The Clown

I don't think he was humiliated. He had the entire audience and the entire panel and the chair against him and he fought his side very hard.

I think Jack Straw came out of it a lot worse - he was utterly useless.

William de Myers

'Humiliated'? Far from it. Nick handled himself well in an extremely hostile environment.

Non-Prophet Organisation

Keep those comments coming, fellow posters! Those of us out of range of the BBC who didn't see it are counting on you (not MSM reporters).

I find it hard to believe that Griffin was humiliated. I think it was actually rather brave of him to have accepted the invitation, knowing what his fellow panellists would be like, backed up by the baying of the hounds in the audience.

Fergus Pickering

No he wasn't humiliated. Jack Straw would have been humiliated except that NOTHING can humiliate him. Bonny Greer is an ignorant loudmouth, but I knew that already.I wouldn't trust Chris Huhne to tell me the time but I knew that already too. I thought the good Baroness cvame quite well out of it.

Colin

He wasn't humiliated.

I can't recall any other guest on the show, ever being subjected to such a clearly orchestrated series of highly personal attacks. He fought his corner and made some very valid points, particularly on the treatment of muslim women. From the responses of the other guests, it appeared that in their desperation to vilify Griffin on every point he made, they sounded like they were in support of the subjugation of women by muslims.

I thought Warsi was woeful. She was let off the hook in relation to her vile views on homosexuals and same sex marriages. I note that whilst she was spared, Griffin was harangued by Dimbleby and then the audience.

My overwhelming feeling is: Was that it?

egh

As Not Prophet says... thank you Speccie blog responders.

We know we can't trust the media. It is also clear that the studio audience - like the rent-a-mob outside - have been programmed by the bullies who are ganging up on Griffin. From personal experience, I have every reason to suppose that they had a little rehearsal before the show was opened to the public.

What a truly nauseating disgrace they are - these sham representatives of our once wonderful country.

PS: It has, of course, registered that CH (and it's PMQ commentary) is now under the sponsorship of german "tradition" - etc.

General Zod

So we have at least two who have come out in this thread so far.

Just back from a dinner, so I haven't had the opportunity to watch it yet.

General Zod

Five now.

Anne Wotana Kaye

After seeing the whole "Show Trial" in the best Stalinist tradition, I now understand why no white. Enlish women were on the panel. The panel were as carefully selected as the audience. I wonder if it was rather like entering the doors of a trendy nightclub, the entrants having to fulfill certain criteria to gain access. There seemed a large percentage of ethnics in the audience, and those actually allowed to present questions were carefully selected by David Dimbleby. The Baroness, was the only inquisitor who appeared to have any intelligence. Straw as usual, was just Straw, and the others of equal foolishness and ignorant banality.

daniel maris

The Dr Strangelove comment fell completely flat. Not surprising given the film is getting on for 50 years old. Plus Straw mistimed the delivery.

Generally Griffin appeared unconvincing in his dodges. However, I am not convinced that will have done a great deal to detract from his impact with the wider public among those receptive to the BNP message.

Bonnie Greer was pretty ineffectual. Chris Huhne was unconvincing donning the garb of opposition to EU migration! Baroness Varsi was quite impressive but in the bits I saw she got an easy ride from Griffin.

Generally the scoffing at Griffin's point about indigenous populations. He said no one would dare call the Maoris a non-indigenous people. The opposition to this statement however seemed to be contentless.

The political elite need to address this issue. Is the concept of indigenous populations valid or invalid? Valid or invalid in all contexts or some contexts?

We need some clarity on this important point.

JohnAnt

Better be careful about 'humiliating' anyone. History has a funny way of making them stage a startling comeback.
Just thinking idly of Lenin, Stalin, Ghandi, Mao and Pol Pot.

Amadeus Plonquer

Latest Score: BNP 1 Labour 0

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Another backfire coming on I feel.
Well done BBC.

TrickyDicky

Who exactly told you this Fraser?

You were sold a pup. Griffin got away with it largely - he landed two or more punches mainly at Straw's expense - coward father and indigenous population. Whilst he bluffed his way through his denials.

The overall impression though was of an unbalanced audience, unbalanced questions and an unbalanced panel - are they too frightened to debate on equal terms?

The liberal metropolitans may well be patting themselves on the back in their Islington townhouses, but the impression in the neglected real world may well be somewhat different......

Richard Lowles

Nick Griffin may not be the most articulate of men, but what was clear from last nights “Question Time” television programme is that he is at least a man of conviction and indeed some courage.

Confronted with a partisan host, belligerent panel and a hostile audience, no doubt hand picked by the BBC for their “ethnic diversity” and ability to “enrich” the viewing experience of the British public, Nick Griffin remained calm and dignified. Answering the questions, while perhaps not with the forcefulness or eloquence of Enoch Powell, with a directness and honesty that was so severely lacking from the rest of the panel and indeed British Politics today.

With the UAF baying for his blood outside the BBC buildings in their predictable attempt to stifle free speech and debate Mr Griffin put up a worthy performance.

When Jack Straw attempted to smear Nick Griffin with a banal “Nazi” Slur. Griffin responded with the fact that while Straws father was languishing in Prison, for refusing to fight Hitler and the Nazis during World War Two, his father (Griffin) was serving his country in the RAF.

Jack Straw the proud to be “a third generation Jewish Émigré on his mothers side” was left speechless and humiliated with the extent of his argument exposed as groundless and defamatory.

When Griffin referred to the “indigenous people” of Britain the panel rounded on him like rabid dogs shouting, “What do you mean “indigenous people”? You mean white people don’t you? Yes white people”. With the "ethnically rich and diverse" audience howling like hyenas in support, Griffin spoke calmly and reasonably.

Stating that he was referring to the English, Scots, Welsh and Irish, the people who had populated these islands for thousands of years.

The panel and audience continued to berate Griffin. Screaming what exactly did he mean by “ the indigenous people of Britain?”

The leader of the BNP asked them simply if they would go to New Zealand and deny the Maori people the right to call themselves “indigenous” or to north America and deny the Native American Sioux the same right?

No they plainly wouldn’t.

Why then do they continue to deny the British people that same right?

The heckling and howls ceased to a murmur, and no one needed to reply, because the answer was simple. Nick Griffin wasn’t the racist. The “ethnically rich and diverse” mob, that made up the panel and audience were the racists.

David Ossitt

The audience had very few middle aged or older people; a high proportion of non-white, and a higher than the average number of homosexuals.

Nick Griffin was bullied by his fellow panellists and hounded by the chairman.

He was not allowed to speak without constant interruption from the rest of the panel and the chair.

All in all he kept his temper and he came out of the ordeal very well.

Anne Wotana Kaye

Richard Lowles: I read your blog with interest. Earlier I posted my own, stating taht Straw's father was too much of a humanitarian to fight Hitler. As a Jewish woman, UK born, I do not consider Straw as either really Jewish nor British. His ethos lies in the old Soviet Union, and of course his father would not fight when Stalin was in league with Molotov. I would liek to send Straw a white feather to place on his father's grave, but he would probably think it was a token of approval and stick it on his hat. His rear would be far more appropriate!

Anne Wotana Kaye

Sralin was in league with Hitler, Molotov was Stalin's Foreign Minister;. A horrible typing error.