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Worse than the Major era?

Peter Hoskin 5:59pm

Here's one for Coffee Housers: is this government sleazier than John Major's?  Asked that question on the BBC News channel's Straight Talk with Andrew Neil this weekend, Martin Bell has no doubts.  "I think this one is worse," he says.

But that's not the end of it.  The former independent MP thinks that the parties need to start looking towards their front benches if they're to properly cleanse the taint left from the expenses scandal:

"But I do think it is going to require the assisted departure of all frontbenchers of both parties who have claimed unreasonable and disproportionate expenses.  And if you look back over the dramas of the last four or five months, not a single frontbencher has been removed.  The Conservatives have used this to get rid of the backwoodsmen; Labour have used it to get rid of Ian Gibson who was a prickly rebel.  Let’s just say it’s a work in progress."

It's revealing that Bell, a respected outsider, should have pretty much the same view on this as many backbenchers from each of the main parties - i.e. that their more exulted colleagues have got off lightly.  Of course, those backbenchers have their own agenda to push.  But the problem comes if the public feel strongly the same way.  If that's the case, then the relatively intact front benches may be causing more anger than most politicians realise.

P.S. Just in case you're wondering, Bell also says that he's "unlikely" to stand at the next election.

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Noa Zrk

October 23rd, 2009 6:27pm Report this comment

The implications of 'New Sleaze', same as the old sleaze but better is a diversification of the GE vote as the electorate calls a plague on all the houses,(and flats, back rooms, kitchens and tellies) and votes UKIP, BNP, or whatever is the current version of the Monster Raving Loonies. We may well see a hung Parliament, with an odious Salmond leaping for joy. Though not in the well hung sense that the public would like to see.

TGF UKIP

October 23rd, 2009 6:29pm Report this comment

Dave, being above all things, The Heir is, like the original, a complete hypocrite so Grayling, Maude and Osborne are completely safe.

No wonder they are all so loathed.

strapworld

October 23rd, 2009 6:46pm Report this comment

"But I do think it is going to require the assisted departure of all frontbenchers of both parties who have claimed unreasonable and disproportionate expenses.

Well that says goodbye to "Wisteria Way" Cameron and most of the shadow cabinet does it not.

But the fact that Cameron has been highly selective and kept his close pals within the tent says it all!

The man has no backbone!

Peter

October 23rd, 2009 7:37pm Report this comment

I didn't think there was much disagreement about this. From Blair's last couple of years to now the current Labour government has been a total embarrassment. A group of sleazy, deceitful, hypocritical incompetents.

Next to this lot the Major government stands tall.

Verity

October 23rd, 2009 7:45pm Report this comment

TGF UKIP and Strapworld have Cameron nailed. I might add weak, a non-achiever, very greedy for power, a very controlling individual because he is insecure.

In other words, not a leader.

alkaline

October 23rd, 2009 7:54pm Report this comment

jaqui should be tried in court for fraud, let alone kicked out of office.

dearieme

October 23rd, 2009 7:57pm Report this comment

Bell was elected, was he not, as part of a rather sleazy Labour stunt?

DavidDP

October 23rd, 2009 7:57pm Report this comment

"I think this one is worse," he says.

That's why he's once again campaigning against a Tory.

Has he ever done otherwise?

Gawain

October 23rd, 2009 7:58pm Report this comment

Major's Government may have been sleazy but at least, once they got the ERM monkey off their back, they managed the economy reasonably competently. This Labour Government is not only sleazy it is probably the worst government this country has had since the Stuarts. I am struggling to think of a worse one. There isn't a single element of current policy in which they can now claim to be competent or successful.

Dorothy Wilson

October 23rd, 2009 8:11pm Report this comment

The real sleaze in this government is the way in which they are clinging on to power, smearing anyone and anything that might get in the way, when we desparately need a general election for the sake of the country and democracy.

Bell should be making a case for a 4 year fixed term parliament.

Dorothy Wilson

October 23rd, 2009 8:12pm Report this comment

Strapworld: If Cameron has no backbone where on earth does that put Brown. No bones at all?

naomilangfordwood@hotmail.com

October 23rd, 2009 8:38pm Report this comment

Elizabeth Filkin forecast all of this.

Martin Bell is right. All but the white suited should go, and go now.

... ..

October 23rd, 2009 8:54pm Report this comment

The three main parties have had their spending spree on us the taxpayer and IF any of them get a majority it WILL be by LUCK and NOT their individual reputations.
UKIP and the BNP will get together and form a government.
We are disgusted with the Lab/Con/Con attitude,arrogance,lack of policies,naval gazing & point scoring between themselves.
The general election can not come soon enough.
D E F I N I T E L Y GOOD FOR BRITAIN.
Kick the lot of the scumbags OUT!!!

EyeSee

October 23rd, 2009 9:00pm Report this comment

I didn't realise you had been in a coma Peter. I think it became apparent sometime in May 1997 that Tony Blair had brought a new style of government. one that institutionalised sleaze, lawbreaking and lying instead of leaving corruption in the hands of individuals, as per Major's Tories. I mean, it is not as if Blair bothered to hide his friendships with the, at best dubious such as Italians and F1 bosses. If you start thinking about Labour corruption, you had better allocate a lot of time. There is a website that has tracked it and it runs to pages and pages.

2trueblue

October 23rd, 2009 10:28pm Report this comment

The question hardly needs asking. At no time in Labours reign have any MPs resigned or been brought to book for any misdeed or mistakes. All we have heard is 'lessons have been learned' so quit giving Cameron a bashing right now.
We have the most corrupt government in power and have a man at the centre of government who was thrown out twice and has been brought back to get them through this patch and see the Lisbon Treaty through.
Dont be so shortsighted, this lot are very much worse, get over it, accept it and get them out.
None of them are going to be prosecuted for stealing which is what has been going on. There is no other situation where people would have ben allowed to behave like this and get away with it. As said before they spent our money hiding the facts from us, turned up in their hundreds to vote to keep the details secret and even now we are simply talking about peanut amounts claimed in cleaning etc.

Never have so few helped themselves to so much of our money and look likely to be getting away with it.I do not care what party they are with, they must all be investigated thoroughly, and not by their own.
They still don't get it. If it was not for the explict purpose of doing their job they were not entitled to it, not difficult to understand. Flipping your home and making a killing on the taxpayer does not fit that profile.

Ben

October 23rd, 2009 11:23pm Report this comment

Tory sleaze: Brown paper envelope handed over to ask a question in House of Commons

Labour sleaze: £100,000 to change the law via the House of Lords

That just about sums it up!

The Laughing Cavalier

October 24th, 2009 9:50am Report this comment

There can be no doubt that NuLabour's sleaze is by far the most egregious. Sleaze, such as it was during the Major years was confined to a few bedroom misadventures and allegations of cash for questions by Al Fayed. By contrast we have the institutionalised, systemic dishonesty and corruption of the Blair Brown axis. From the secrecy and dishonesty of policy to the waging war on the flimsiest of evidence, the ministerial parachute into lucrative directorships by way of abuse of power and position we have endured a government even more rotten than that of the old Soviet Nomenklatura.

Liz Brown

October 24th, 2009 10:48am Report this comment

Liebour has been sleazy from day one F!, Robin Cook ditching his wife from the airport. Who now remembers "junket" Jack Cunningham? Then we have Mandelbum's mortgage, Mandelbum's Hinduja passports - more recently we have Peter Hain's ilegally funded run for Deputy Leader (and paying his 80 + mum's expenses) etc etc etc. the list is endless. Major's lot were positively virginal by comparison

Peter

October 24th, 2009 11:08am Report this comment

EyeSee - |I cannot argue with any of that. I must have been in the coma you ascribed to me.

Yup - just a bloody shower from Day 1.

Sam ARMSTRONG

October 24th, 2009 2:15pm Report this comment

Were not the revelations of the Major era engineered by NuLab anyway? So you could say that sleaze began when the NuLab project was launched in embryo and hasn't ceased since.

No wonder people are voting for fringe groups.

Chris

October 24th, 2009 4:13pm Report this comment

If snything could persuade me that Nulab were whiter than white, it would be the comments of that puffed-up, over-rated and narcissistic windbag, Martin Bell.

David Ossitt

October 24th, 2009 4:20pm Report this comment

Worse than the Major era?

Of course it is; a thousand times worse, Major had three ore four individuals who were guilty of crimes and offences.

This lot have lied; cheated, embezzled and behaved disgracefully from the very start.

Remember junket Jack Cunningham the day after the 1997 election saying we are the masters now, we can do and have what we want.

Anne Wotana Kaye

October 24th, 2009 6:31pm Report this comment

Worse than the Major era? I don't know. Edwina Currie mocked Major's blue Y-front underpants. So far, none of the females in Brown's cabinet have reported on what or whether he wears any.

Noa Zrk

October 25th, 2009 3:07am Report this comment

Anne Wot...

My God. The thought of the Cowdenbeast going commando, in the Cabinet, at PMQ, on QT, even on the QT is utterly...bizarre.

Anne Wotana Kaye

October 25th, 2009 9:26am Report this comment

Noa,
Things can only getter stranger....

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