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Sunday, 25th October 2009

The Tories now have a monopoly on the language of optimism

Peter Hoskin 1:19pm

So how big a blow was the news that we're still in recession to Gordon Brown?  Well, compare and contrast his latest podcast on the Downing Street website with David Cameron's article in the Sunday Times. 

Brown's effort is necessarily defensive.  Gone is the "we're leading the world" bombast of a few weeks ago, to be replaced with a crude "pledge" to get the economy growing again by 2010:

"My pledge to you is to make reform of the financial sector a reality, and to see Britain's economy return to growth by the turn of the year."

While Cameron's effort is considerably more agressive, and concentrates on outlining a "pro-growth, pro-enterprise agenda".  The concluding paragraph rather sums up the tone of the piece:

"I know that a vision of growth may seem a long way off in the light of the latest figures showing that we are still in recession. But Britain does have the resources to get there. We have got the people, the ingenuity, the ideas. We just need a government that will help them, not stand in their way."

Comparing the two missives, it's plain to see that one of Brown's chief presentational failures has now been exacerbated.  After being in power for 12 years, he was always going to struggle to sell a message of "hope" and "change" - but, in view of the prolonged downturn, that task is now near impossible for him.  In which case, the Tories now have a monopoly on the language of optimism.

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T .England

October 25th, 2009 1:56pm Report this comment

Once AGAIN Brown is proved to be wrong, not having any foresigh, not being capable of the making the right decisions to lead a country into the future.

He just keeps on getting it wrong, he gets it wrong with his judgements over the specialists he has brought in to tell him what’s best to do, he always gets the mood of the public wrong, he’s just ALWAYS wrong, wrong, wrong!

For goodness sake! How many times can someone get it so wrong & have any credibility left?
If he was the Chief executive of a company he would have been got rid of ages ago for the good of the company, unluckily for us we have to wait for the election to dump this unelected incompetent Labour “person”, who’s WRONG for Britian.

jon dee

October 25th, 2009 2:20pm Report this comment

Brown's latest message is so predictable

Would someone tell our prime minister, that if he had handled the nation's finances more efficiently, we would have been out of recession months ago and with a smaller debt.

Darling's growth forecast for " the back end of the year" and now being hedged by Brown's " growth by turn of the year", sounds like an updating of the same bet as the odds are bound to get shorter.

No doubt when it eventually happens we'll be bombarded with carefully prepared spin extolling the heroic achievements of our world saviour and his little helpers.

Ah, happy " christmas " days.

Prodicus

October 25th, 2009 2:41pm Report this comment

Who's paying for Brown's weekly Party Political Podcast? Me? Or the Labour Party?

Liz Brown

October 25th, 2009 3:30pm Report this comment

does anyone actually listen to Gordo, podcast or otherwise?

Verity

October 25th, 2009 3:32pm Report this comment

Look at David Cameron's sly, greedy, not overly bright face. He truly is the Heir, is he not? Blair looks more feral, but other than that ...

TrevorsDen

October 25th, 2009 5:30pm Report this comment

Another brilliantly insightful cutting edge piece from Verity.

"For goodness sake! How many times can someone get it so wrong & have any credibility left?" --- Brown has never been right about anything ever in his entire life.

Paul Hughes

October 25th, 2009 5:59pm Report this comment

My word, Verity, you're so rabidly anti-Cameron that you'd sooner have another five years of Brown, simply so you would be able to brag to the other embittered blue rinses that "I had him right all along."

Go and form your own party and cease the pretense that some santised Griffin will one day arrive to merge rabid anti-everythingism with Thatcherite economics in order to produce a saviour of which you could approve.

Politics is the art of the possible and Cameron is by far the lesser evil. I think you'd sooner see the place in flames than accept anything other than your chosen brand of cantankerous "conservatism."

strapworld

October 25th, 2009 6:33pm Report this comment

Brown issues a 'podcast' from his bunker!!

He could have invited his tame BBC chappie in, you the know the one Marr, with those ears.

But Brown does not want to answer any questions, he is above all that. He believes he is loved by everyone. He is in a world of his own.

The man needs to be given a revolver and a bullet, but there again knowing him he will probably just shoot himself in the foot!!

DavidDP

October 25th, 2009 6:39pm Report this comment

I hadn't realised Verity was that shallow. She must be a New Labour voter.

Peter From Maidstone

October 25th, 2009 6:45pm Report this comment

Although I do not share Verity's complete antipathy to Cameron, I am increasingly worrying if the Conservative party has anything to say to the present situation. Will we just end up with a slightly more conservative socialism? Will immigration and multi-culturalism carry on pretty much as at present? Will Islam continue to be encouraged and protected in all its forms and expressions?

If so then it seems that we need more than the 'art of the possible'. If even the Spectator is silent in the face of what amounts to a planned cultural genocide of the English people then we need to look to the 'art of the impossible'.

I wonder what would happen if there were large crowds on the streets demanding that Parliament be expelled and new MPs be elected that have never been MPs before? Would that be terrible for government? Or would we get the same creatures we have now?

There seems to be a need for a new start, and a line drawn. If Cameron will not make the new start or draw the line then I wonder if he is also part of the problem, however much I do hope that he is part of the solution.

How bad do things have to get before the Queen can dissolve Parliament? Surely a treacherous and treasonous Government cannot be allowed an unfettered liberty to destroy our nation?

strapworld

October 25th, 2009 6:49pm Report this comment

Paul Hughes, to think you and I are linked by a name but could not be so far apart on the view of Cameron.

A weak man who is attempting to get into government without telling the people anything! He gives a very vague promise on the EU but refuses to say what he will do if the Lisbon Treaty is ratified (The truth is, as we all know, he will not be able to do anything!) There is one absolute certainty, he will not give the people any referendum which could result in a majority voting for coming our of the EU!!

Then his political correctness for all women shortlists! Next, no doubt, All Black or All Muslim shortlists.

As another Scot he does not want the English to have their own parliament. Just what does he stand for, Paul?

Now with the truth on mass immigration coming out, will Cameron make any song and dance about it? Another safe bet, NO. He will hope this is forgotten. He does not want to alienate the muslim voters. Forget about the English, the Welsh, the Irish or Scots he will not upset the applecart.

I tell you this,without wishing to sound big headed, I do have a bit of experience in team building. I have been highly succesfull in being able to judge character and the 'fight' within individuals. (remember the old adage: It is not the dog in the fight it is the fight in the dog!) I can tell you that your man Cameron would not make one of my teams! A weak man.

Mind you Brown is much weaker- if that is any consolation. The pity and scandal is that we have such weak people in charge and hoping to be in charge of the Country.

So,Paul, Verity has been right on so many occasions and she is spot on with her assessment of Cameron.

The crying shame is that the Conservative Party has chosen this man as leader.

MartSharm

October 25th, 2009 7:23pm Report this comment

Verity, you truly are an enemy of my country. You denigrate the only man who can save the country from utter ruin, repeating the same weak, tired lines like a stuck record.

You are Lady Haw-Haw.

You are a traitor.

Thomas Cussans

October 25th, 2009 7:31pm Report this comment

Tell me, Verity, what does an 'overly bright face' look like?

Verity

October 25th, 2009 7:34pm Report this comment

Paul Hughes, not interested in a sanitised version of Griffin and I would like you to tell me why you intuited that I would be.

I'm a Conservative and I want a real Conservative as our head of government.

Blair Mark II does not fit the bill. Quite apart from the fact that he's a lefty in his soul, no one in Britain seems to like him very much. (The press is now referring to his egregious plan to plant incompetent women in Westminster to even up the numbers as "Cameron's Cuties".)

If the Labour scumbags scuttle back in, I do not think they can last, as I have said 90,000 times, the course. Even if the EU props them up. Even if the manatee-in-waiting, fat Cher, finds some arcane EU law (that she just made up) to imprison the entire Shadow Cabinet, they cannot stagger on longer than 18 months max. The Cabinet looks like the Politbureau just before the collapse. That's the last time I saw so many grey faces.

Meanwhile, we will have an intelligent person who is a Conservative who will probably be handy at wielding a dagger (verbal, that is) and possibly finish off the socialists as a party forever.

With Daniel Hannan, or William Hague, in No 10 and Sarah Palin (or another principled right winger) in the White House, we can get back to running democracies.

To finish off my wish list, I'd like to see Blair and his cohorts tried for treason.

Holly ......

October 25th, 2009 7:34pm Report this comment

Verity,what is it with you and your constant 'put downs' with Cameron?
I have said before, I do believe you have quite have a thing for him.
You CONSTANTLY go on about his face? how come? When you should be listening you are CLEARLY LOOKING!

Verity

October 25th, 2009 8:12pm Report this comment

Paul Hughes, this British use of the term "blue rinses" always puzzles me. In the US, in, I guess, the Sixties, little old ladies with white hair used to have a light blue tint put through it, but this hasn't been the mode for decades. At least not when I was there.

Was this the fashion in Britain at the same time? Or just one more example of a Brit using a poorly informed cliché from the US in the hope of sounding, I dunno ... cutting edge? Or salon edge?

I was going to compile a list of these poorly understood, or poorly applied Americanisms once, but it was overwhelming. Just monitoring James Forsythe, Pete and David Blackburn would keep one at the keyboard for hours.

The best to date, from this site, is James Forsythe referring to Westminster Village as "inside the Beltway". Still at the top of my list.

DavidDP

October 25th, 2009 8:22pm Report this comment

Oh no. Not an Americanism. How awful.

Blue rinse, particularly applied to politics, is a British phrase.

Hawkeye

October 25th, 2009 8:55pm Report this comment

Strapworld said (apparently referring to David Cameron): "As another Scot he does not want the English to have their own parliament. Just what does he stand for, Paul?"

Err... Cameron was born in London and grew up in Berkshire. Exactly what kind of Scot does that make him?

Or were you talking about someone else?

TGF UKIP

October 25th, 2009 9:51pm Report this comment

I suggest all those having a pop at Verity listen to Oborne's interview with Dave which can be heard in full over on Guido datelined Wednesday 21st October. It underlines just how right Verity is and how completely Dave is the Heir and precisely why he can "brag" to be such.

The interview sadly answers in the affirmative the qustions Peter from Maidstone asks in the first para of his post.

Those of you who are fondly harbouring the illusion that on taking office (miracles I guess can happen) Dave will morph into a real conservative are setting themselves up for a most cruel disappointment.

emil

October 25th, 2009 10:01pm Report this comment

Well let me see Verity, I would rather like a real conservative to run the country I live in (unlike you I believe), but where we differ is that I'm not praying for another 5 years of Brown in the off chance of achieving this.

In short - give it a rest will you?

General Zod

October 25th, 2009 10:24pm Report this comment

Verity, William Hague would not give you the time of day.

Charles

October 25th, 2009 10:24pm Report this comment

Hawkeye

I tink he is basing it on the fact that his greatgrandfather or something like that came from Scotland. Sounds like the sort of sentiment that Nick Griffin would be proud of.

2trueblue

October 25th, 2009 11:55pm Report this comment

Verity if you are a conservative then realise one thing, Cameron is the only game in town. Accept it and move on. We have 12.5 years of a government that have destroyed everything good and I can not see how rubbising Cameron, who has managed to get the party together is realistic. I don't like his smile, so what, he has the ticket so lets get behind him and get the job done.

Verity

October 26th, 2009 12:00am Report this comment

David DP – Blue rinse is an old American phrase to describe little old white haired Republican voters. It hasn’t been used in God knows how many decades. The Brits, as so often, picked up on the phrase without understanding the background, and therefore use it wrongly.

TGF UKIP refers to Peter of Maidstone’s post, and I went and read it. Very interesting and thought-provoking.

Emil writes: “Well let me see Verity, I would rather like a real conservative to run the country I live in (unlike you I believe)”. I have no idea where your starting point for your comment is. Every regular here knows I am hard right wing. Death penalty for murder and treason (Hi, Tony! I’m watching you!); strong military; minimal welfare and the rest left to churches, synagogues, provident societies and private charities; schools independent of centralist planning; out of the EU except for some treaties yet to be written; concentration on strengthening the Anglosphere; privatizing the health service or switching to the French or Singapore system and getting a French person or Singaporean in to make it work; and so on.

What’s not to like?

Verity

October 26th, 2009 12:57am Report this comment

General Zod – Why would I ask William Hague for the time of day? What a strange concept!

In short, Emil, no, I won’t give it a rest. You are willing to settle for 3rd best because it is marginally better than the communist regime you currently live under. Dave’s regime would be little different; be aware of that. Governance by a ruling quangocracy. Unappointed, unaccountable, dismissive of the electorate. And all women candidates whether you bloody like it or not, because it makes Dave feel like a mover and shaker. One thing Dave is very clear on: He doesn't give a stuff about the Conservative voter. Keep that in mind and watch the evidence pile up.

DavidDP

October 26th, 2009 7:24am Report this comment

Verity appears to have gone from saying it might be an Americanism but she doesn't know, to stating it is.

It's not, regardless.

strapworld

October 26th, 2009 8:50am Report this comment

Hawkeye and Charles. Sorry about the delay, Evensong was followed by bible class and I did not return to the computer last evening.

Charles is right, save for the fact that Cameron has made comment that he is from Scottish blood.

But Charles. What did you make of Lord Tebbitt's view then? In your view he too, must be racist, as that is what you are intimating, is it not?

But you are now adopting the standard answer of the left. Call anyone who may argue against your view a racist. Has this been adopted by the Cameron supporters now?

If Calling for an English Parliament and an end to uncontrolled immigration is racist, then I am a racist.

If wanting a referendum on the totalitarian EU is racist, then I am a racist!

If calling Cameron Scottish, then I am a racist.

But a more infantile argument I have yet to come across. The man, Cameron, is a weak man who will do nothing to bring back pride into our country.

General Zod

October 26th, 2009 9:49am Report this comment

For one who accused another of a sixth form debating technique, Verity, it is rich of you to descend to prep school level by pretending to take literally a figurative phrase.

You know William Hague would repudiate you as an undesirable loon.

Ian Walker

October 26th, 2009 10:43am Report this comment

Did someone knock over a tower of empty vessels this morning? Good grief.

Verity

October 26th, 2009 12:13pm Report this comment

Troll David DP – “Blue rinse brigade” is an Americanism, copied by the British left, who liked the sound of it because it sounded mocking of little old Conservative ladies. You may insist, touchily, that the British thought it up all by themselves if you wish, but if you do, kindly tell us its genesis. You cannot.

It’s a bit rich to read someone who calls himself General Zod insisting that he can predict what William Hague would say to someone he’d just met.

2trueblue – “Verity if you are a conservative then realise one thing, Cameron is the only game in town.” Incorrect.

Emil – “Well let me see Verity, I would rather like a real conservative to run the country I live in (unlike you I believe).” Wrong. I very much like a real conservative running the country I live in. President Calderon is a fine conservative thinker and doer. It’s just Britain, Venezuela and the slag heaps of Africa these days that are run by old Commies.

Any Colour but Brown

October 26th, 2009 1:01pm Report this comment

Verity,

according to two different US sources, "blue rinse" is a British term, not American.
One is Encarta and the other is Word Web Online (a dictionary from the Princeton University). I'll take their word over yours.

Verity

October 26th, 2009 1:58pm Report this comment

Any Colour But Brown - don't accept it. Give me the genesis of the phrase and I might.

General Zod

October 26th, 2009 2:56pm Report this comment

If he were to read your oeuvre, Verity, his response would be quick and short.

DavidDP

October 26th, 2009 8:47pm Report this comment

"but if you do, kindly tell us its genesis. You cannot."

We've had someone cite an encyclopaedia and Princeton. Perhaps you could provide the American genesis of the word, since you seem so sure.

DavidDP

October 26th, 2009 8:48pm Report this comment

Oh, and stop sponging off hard working Mexicans and go back where you cam from.

2trueblue

October 26th, 2009 10:01pm Report this comment

Verity, don't hold us in suspence, tell us who he is then?

Graham Clark

October 28th, 2009 11:52pm Report this comment

I am definately optimistic about the economy when the Conservatives gain office (assuming Mr Brown and his Pseudo-stazi Commie friends allow us a General election when the time comes).

Every Labour administration, including this one under Teflon B'Liar and Gordo McRuin-Broone always leave office leaving the Public Finances in a mess. Even without the 'Credit Crunch' and the Banking Crisis, Brown would still have left the UKs finances in a mess.

I sense a period of 'Deja Vu' in the current situation, it is in some way reminicent of the Callaghan Labour government. Times are different, but the results will be the same - "All Labour Governments eventually run out of other people's money'. This is true today as it was in the late 1970s.

History may be kind to Brown, but I think not. Labour, or 'New Labour' will go down as the worst ever post WW2 government, even worse than the Wilson one. Both Blair and Brown, certainly Brown, will have the unhappy epithet of the "Worst Ever UK PM"

Poor old stubborn so-and-so that he is. He like many PMs with a large majority, end up believing their own lies and propaganda. The Conservatives fell into the same trap under Thatcher and Major, and New Labour are no different.

I for one will cheer 'Hurrah!' when we see the back of 'Neues Partie Der Arbeit ZaNu-Pf' (New Labour). An incoming Tory administration may give the boost to business confidence that the UK desparately needs. It won't find it under a Labour Government with Brown amd Mandelson in charge -- no way Hosey!!

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