Wilshire: This is exactly how Nazi Germany started

Anne Allan

I'll thcweam and thcweam until I'm thick...............

Tiberius

What a relief!

When I saw the headline, I thought we'd finally got CH's own Neathergate response.

Hawkeye

It just proves it was right to push him out. Silly fool!

Chuck Unsworth

Wishire's grasp of history is almost as good as his grasp of accounting.

Tankus

hmmm ....gas chambers for corrupt MP's ?

Personally, I think that Sir Kelly should keep all his options for punishment open ...!

I'm more in favour of gulags and hard labour for our more dishonourable members .

Maybe Sir Kelly can speak to the Americans , Guantanamo will soon be going for a song , once the anointed one closes it down .
Save the tax payer a few bob , and that's what its all about.

Maybe we can run some experiments on the troughers, just to find out how really bad is sustained water boarding over several years .
In the public interest , obviously.

Austin Barry

Wilshire has a track record of citing mass murderers to support his venality.

Earlier this year with respect to a proscription on MP's second jobs he asserted that "state employed parliamentarians" would be something that "Stalin would applaud".

No doubt Wilshire will soon raise the spectre of Pol Pot in support of MPs' unapologetic trough-guzzling.

Vulture

Wilshire's comparison is as obscene as his fat, self-satisfied Billy Bunter's granddad face.
It does demonstrate, however, how distant is the planet on which MPs live from the lives of the rest of us.

CS

I wonder what his views are on benefit scroungers who sponge off the taxpayer.

Dungeekin

Ooookay. I reckon I can keep my rage under control just long enough to respond.

It's a worthy attempt by the Right Dishonourable 'Gentleman' to assume victim status, but even the briefest of examinations reduces his position to risibility.

Under the Nazis, the Jews were forced to wear the yellow star, clearly marking them to the population. Sadly, Members of Parliament are not forced to wear an armband declaring 'Greedy Thieving Bastard'.

Jews were not permitted to own businesses. Mr Wilshire's own clever spot of creative accountancy shows that Members of Parliament can, and do - and that they are extremely clever at milking public money into those personally-owned businesses. One wonders if Mr Wilshire worked as tirelessly at gaining investment for his constituency as he did for his personal accounts.

Under the Nazis, Jews were forced into camps - not paid vast sums from the public purse for a lavishly-decorated second home. Jews were used as slave labour - one would have to be quite spectacularly deluded, completely deranged or a Member of Parliament to see a backbencher's £64,000 salary, gold-plated index-linked Pension fund and cushy directorships as slave labour.

Finally and most damningly, the Jews were hounded, persecuted and exterminated in their millions simply for their religion. The 646 Little Parliamentary Piggies are 'victims' of nothing more than the realisation in the Electorate that they are, largely, grasping avaricious toads with no more worthy aspiration than to live the high life on the money we pay the State.

Mr Wilshire calls the actions of the Telegraph and those who exposed the expenses scandal a 'witch hunt'. It is not. It is the quite justified exposure of the greed of many MPs, who seem to have spent their time in Parliament acting solely in their own interests - sometimes to the detriment of the country (yes, I'm looking at YOU, Caroline Flint).

To compare oneself to the victims of the Holocaust requires not just insensitivity and tactlessness - it requires an arrogance that quite simply beggars belief, and an overinflated sense of importance beyond insanity, much less imagining. Mr Wilshire - if your dishonesty and avarice was insufficient to disbar you from the House, your crass arrogance definitely does.

Those MPs who feel that they are the victims of a Kristallnacht-esque attack should, perhaps, look at their own actions to understand the reasons. The Jews were blameless in the atrocities they suffered - the House of Commons has brought this so-called Holocaust upon themselves.

Mr Wilshire, kindly keep your self-pitying whinges to yourself, stand down sooner rather than later and crawl back under the rock from whence you came. Because I think after comments like these, there will be plenty of people willing to have a whip-round to buy you some Zyklon B.

Wilhelm

Well its Godwins Law, isnt it ?

What Hitler did was soooo off the scale that this sleazy little guttersnipe David Wilshire fiddling his expenses and comparing himself to Anna Frank and the genocide is well, simply disgusting.

John Adlington

They should take the whip from the poor deluded fool.

Walsingham Ghost

@ Tiberius

Ha ha ha ha ha......

WG

Culverin

What a certifiably paranoid thing to say.

I always find most Tory members and MPs a bit odd but Wilshire has got to be having a serious off day.

Olaf

Do they not realise that none of the public wouldn't shed a tear if we hung the whole political class and left them to rot in the streets.

Starting from scratch is not a bad idea.

JGS

The man's a pompous ass. Withdraw the whip, please, Mr Cameron.

The Puppet Master

Gas chambers? Now there's an idea.

Alan Douglas

I'm curious - does anyone DISagree with his first sentence ? :

“The witch hunt against MPs in general will undermine democracy. It will weaken parliament - handing yet more power to governments."

To be very pedantic about this, his 2nd sentence is also true. He does NOT specifically link the two.

"Branding a whole group of people as undesirables led to Hitler's gas chambers.”

Perhaps he is not really much of a politician then ?

Alan Douglas
PS Not to be extrapolated that I support troughers please.

Walsingham Ghost

Wilshire is a fatuous a*se.

Hitler was swept to power because the German electorate of the day felt their mainstream political Parties were out of touch with (and failing to listen to) the ordinary voters. As such, in desperation, they turned to an extremist Party in the belief that their voices would at last be heard.

Oddly enough, I am getting the strangest feeling of déjà vu......

Mirtha Tidville

He was caught with his large snout in the trough and in the manner of juveniles, is stamping his feet, whilst overbaked in self righteousness. I really dont think this greedy oaf should be given any more publicity.

Moraymint

Every time a new story like this comes out, my view is reinforced that the gulf between our political class and us mere mortals is much, much wider than I ever imagined.

The more that idiots like Wilshire speak up, the more damage is done to the politicos and the greater will be the public's fury.

Starting all over again with new and far fewer MPs would be the best thing that could happen to our democracy (well, what's left of it).

The Labour Party's epitaph: "We were an insult to democracy".

se1man

please please please withdraw the whip from this arrogant idiot.

TomTom

Time for David Wilshire to appear on Question Time....maybe with Bonnie Greer ?

Ian Walker

@Dungeekin: Outstanding riposte, well done.

Alexandrovich

Please tell me that this man does not really exist.

Any Colour but Brown

"John Adlington
They should take the whip from the poor deluded fool."

No, sir, they should take A whip TO him.

charles hercock

Let's have a constituency vote of no confidence in friend Wilshire.These folk need to know we the public will not tolerate this twisted arrogance.He may not be recontesting but send the maessage to others.

Alexandrovich

Walsingham's Ghost: I'm sure you've told us that before.

terence patrick hewett

Branding a whole group of people as undesirables. Yes, that is how the Labour Party Neathergate conspirators regard the English.

DavidDP

Ironic really, as this chap had a hand in the thoroughly nasty Section 28, which is arguably closer to "this is how Nazism started" than the opprobrium heaped upon MPs.

The Gateless Gate

What a silly bunt he is! Send him to the saltmines of Cheshire for some corrective therapy.

Marcher Baron

After 12 years of Labour we are all victims now. It's Blair's legacy. I do get a sense of déjà vu about the current political situation, though. I'm reliving the thirties and the seventies at the same time!

anne allan

Dungeekin,
Why don't you say what you really think?
The poor sod's beyond satire.

Olliver Cromwell

Too long the jack-boot of this government has subverted freedoms and truths long held dear by the British peoples.

Media management, spin, control, handing away freedoms without votes, abolishing ancient positions without due process, undermining legitimate protest and complaint, controlling, subverting its people.

At the same time they had their fingers in our pockets.

Well, time for a change and if they do not get it this time, sweep the whole lot out and start again.

Nick

He seems to be a one-man Godwin's Law:

"In 2000 Wilshire threatened legal action against a Labour Party member who wrote in the Heathrow Villager that the MP was scaremongering about a local hospital. Wilshire received criticism as the author of the piece was a cancer-suffering pensioner who was being treated at the hospital. The Guardian newspaper, which had previously been compared to the Third Reich by Wilshire, described him as "Britain's stupidest MP" as a result."

irate

Dungeekin: Thank you!

How was a creature like Wilshire ever allowed to stand for election as a representative of the Conservative party?

Who vets these people? Who said: "oh, yes, good solid sort of a chap; he's just the type we want." ????

It's no good agonising about a good or bad performance at PMQs - one idiot like Wilshire does incalculable damage.

If there are more of him out there, feeling hugely sorry for themselves and still calculating the best way to massage their incomes, the party managers should find a way to lose them -- publicly and quickly.

Peter From Maidstone

Why was Section 28 thoroughly nasty? I certainly don't want my kids indoctrinated by the state. In fact there should be a whole load of Sections which prevent the state insisting in schools that AGW is fact, and other socialist myths.

Rainer Unsinn

Nazi Germany started because of the failings of the encumbent regime. The economy was in ruins, the money was valueless (it was cheaper to paper the walls with banknotes than to buy wallpaper). The populous had lost faith in the Govt, which was seen to be totally out of touch with common man.

There are many more reasons, but the parallels to the current gang of incompetents, running Whitehall, are too spooky to list in full..............

Naomi Muse

Oh dear!

This was one occasion when an MP should have known not to put his foot in his mouth.

Didn't think the problem arose through elected representatives at the Reichstag taking too much in expenses....

A J Scott

Dungeekin: brilliant. Should be inscribed with hot irons on the backsides of all troughing MPs.
And Mr Cameron: if you can't sack this stupid criminal clot, you don't get my vote.

logdon

Dungeekin says it all.

Holly ......

BEWARE!
We are getting 'nazi'd' and 'jew'd' to the extent that we will get 'tired'of hearing about them.
The government are Nazis, the Tories are in cahoots with 'Nazis',holocaust deniers etc,
etc.
By doing this we undermine the true horror of the holocaust.there was a story on the radio this morning doing exactly that,and I amazed myself by saying I am sick of hearing about Nazis and Jews.
The stinking glassbacked,bollockless(even Hitler had one),mildgreen fairy liquid,moisturising,manicured,pampered,girlyso called MP's know bugger all about what it was like and they should STOP using the horror of that time in history because it's 'the in soundbite'.
Some poxy politician moaning about being hounded for being a leech has absolutely NOTHING to do with Jews or Hitler! This sniveling little creep would be the first to surrender if confronted by a German soldier of WW11 ilk.
We are supposed to remember the inhumanity of man, NOT some jumped up thieving,gutless
arsewipe.

mac

Wilshire's appearance and brain make him the perfect choice to play Pooh in a PCP pantomime. (and Cash for Eeyore?)

Moraymint

Dungeekin ... "Hear, hear" from Fort Moraymint; more like that please.

Lee Jakeman

The hearts of Jews all over the world are bleeding in sympathy for Britain's poor, oppressed Members of Parliament.

Ben Elford

Section 28 thoroughly nasty? Surely, it was a necessary piece of legislation to deal with a thoroughly nasty propagandist movement.

And Dungeekin: fantastic post.

2trueblue

That any of the MPs think they have been hounded or badly treated is truely unbelievable. They have spent so much time hiding what they were up to because they knew it would not stand the light of day.

And frankly we do not know half of it.

They are on a totally different planet, they are egotistical, and akin to a bunch of hugely indulged spoilt brats. They made their own rules and abused them, they had a ball, they bought houses on the taxpayer, they flipped them, they think we have to feed them as well as pay them, they bought tvs, furniture, kitchens, and all these things were neccessary for them to conduct their business that we elected them to do. We need to check the fine print on their contract.

They are in the wrong and there are very few of them that have had the balls to stand up and do the right thing. We have had half baked apoloies, and with bad grace. What do they think we think of them, or are they interested?

JohnAnt

They'll be able to retire to their various properties: 'Dunthievin', Mon (deuxieme) repos' etc etc.

Victor Southern

This is the sort of MP that gives fools a bad name.

He also illustrates the ridiculous extent to which buffoons have inherited safe seats. Rotten boroughs get rotten MPs.

anne allan

BTW - where is Spelthorne? Is it one of those cobbled together constituencies named after an obscure hamlet? Is the mention of Heathrow any guide to its location?