Vaclav Klaus signs the Lisbon Treaty

Merlyn

We have all been waiting for Cammeron to deliver "crushing" blows to the labour party"s "policies" for a long time now... too long.
They had a gift in the Andrew Neather expose, and about immigration, but no, nothing.
Sorry, but their silence speaks volumes.
I reckon they are in cohoots and there is something they are not telling us.

Dungeekin

BREAKING NEWS:

The British Government is to be abolished with effect from 31 December 2009, it was announced today.

The shock ruling came from the EU Leader Jose Manuel Barroso, immediately after the Lisbon Treaty was ratified by Czech President Vaclav Klaus bringing it into law.

Mr Barroso said, "with the ratification and implementation of the Lisbon Treaty, we are now full-steam-ahead towards our goal of Eurasia a United States of Europe, in accordance with the dreams of those who have tried the project before. Obviously, as this will require central funding and a centralised approach to governance, it is important that we cut costs and deadwood from the European political process".

He added, "our research into deadwood indicated that because the British Government couldn't be bothered to negotiate, didn't give their people a referendum on the Treaty or even have a fully-briefed Europe Minister, they clearly don't feel the need to govern their country.

"Therefore, with effect from 31 December, Great Britain's Government and Parliament will be dissolved and all legislative decisions affecting the country will be taken by the European Parliament".

Mr Barroso added that he expected to introduce the Euro into Britain by mid-2010, and that by 2014 the UK would likely be subsumed into Germany as an administrative district 'for voting purposes'.

When approached for comment, Germany's Angela Merkel was barely able to control her laughter as she said, "if you didn't want to be part of it, you should have voted - oh, you weren't allowed to, were you?".

Soon-to-be-ex Prime Minister Gollum Brown was too busy getting on with the job for comment.

Vulture

David, It is the mark of a leader to swim against the tide if necessary. Not the popular tide - that has been running ever more strongly against the EU for ages. I mean the bien pensant, Nottting Hill set, chattering classes tide that says 'nothing can be done now' and 'we have to surrender our sovereignity' and 'let's move to post-democracy'. That tide, David . Dave should announce that the Tories will hold an 'in' or 'out' referendum within six months of taking office - ie by the end of 2011. You might be surprised by how many votes the Tories would win as a result. But of course he won't because at bottom he is a snivelling lickspittle like Blair and Brown before him. Goodnight, England; it was nice knowing you - but you're history.

Maggie

Perhaps someone will start telling us soon what difference the Lisbon Treaty will make to our lives.
I'm sick to death of hearing who's for it, who's against, who wants a referendum, who doesn 't want a referendum. I know all that off by heart but I haven't the faintest idea what affect, if any, it will have on the man in the street.

Tiberius

You're right, David, that the charges are being brought against the wrong defendant here. Brown must be laughing his socks off.

Both BBC and independent radio have today been lazily reporting the untruth, and no doubt BBC TV News will be only to happy to join in this evening.

I agree with you that Cameron has to come out fighting over this, and I'm sure he will.

Sue MV

This has nothing to do with who signed our democratic rights away to the EU. This is about democracy. This whole process has bypassed the electorate. I thinks it's a disgusting way to treat us.

The EU monster has turned into nothing but a dictatorial machine.

I shall be voting for whatever party pledges to either give us a referendum in/out or one that just gets us out of this totalitarian nightmare!

Alan Phillips

And now that the mission for Liebour, is complete, Bruin, Meddlesome and Bliar can ensure that the "project" gets more of the socialist tosh that has been inflicted on us since 1997.

The various commentators are correct that its Bruins pledge for a vote on this treaty should be the focus, but hayhoo, when the Titanic started sinking, the passagers didn't look back at the architect for answers why the thing was holed, but looked forward to how to get out of the mess...

Nobody is looking at Liebour for those answers, but if Cameron gives a creditable answer, lifeboats will become available and the vote at the GE will be decisive. Next Weekends newspapers will have the answer to that question, will we find shallow waters or will we sail on to the mid Atlantic???

Bert

Will Flash now retire?

DavidDP

"the UK would likely be subsumed into Germany "

Hang on, why will the UK go, but Germany continue?

Stepney

My Lord, the supermarkets must have sold out of tin foil today.

Never been such news for flushing out the nutters. Can you imagine this lot in 1940?

(Strikes dramatic pose, points to heavens, mutters something about the death of Britain and all she stands for, sob, clutch, wail.)

Verity

Where the hell's our Sovereign Lady?

Publius

I fear that "cast-iron guarantee" is not a phrase that is going to appear anytime soon in Tory political statements.

Nor, I suspect, will Mr Nelson be employing the term "Brownies" with the same gusto.

Eventually there will be a Boston Tea Party moment. It will come, I suspect, from some unsuspected quarter. But the EU's arrogance will be its eventual undoing.

Vulture

'Sfunny you mention 1940, Stepney. One big difference between then and now is that we had a Conservative leader and a Labour leader working together in No.10 to save the country from foreign domination.

Today the holders of those two posts are working to facilitate the same.

Tiberius

"But the EU's arrogance will be its eventual undoing".

Now I can agree with that, Publius.

Rather like Communism and Islamism, the EU is burdened by the weight of its own contradictions (and as a contrast, Janet Daley wrote a very good piece in last Sunday's ST on why capitalism will survive). The problem is that it can take a long time for the collapse to occur.

Publius

I think, now, we shall see the political tectonic plates being to shift. Mandelson has delivered. He will get his reward. Brown, who up to now held the nuclear option of calling an election if he was threatened, is no longer needed, and Mandy and others can move against him. UKIP can be closed down by the legal activism of the courts and quangos. The British government is now obliged by Lisbon to further the ever-closer union cause of the Eurocrats.

From now on you can choose whatever colour you like, just so long as it’s EU.

Frank P

David Blackburn

" I expect Cameron to deliver a crushing appraisal of government EU policy and its contempt for voters in the Commons tomorrow."

Why, did he promise you to do that? If so I wouldn't hold your breath. Promises from call-me-Dave and his hangers-on seem to have about as much weight as Gozza's. Don't they Fraser?

Billericay Dave

For all you people thinking of voting ukip or bnp just remember if you do the chances are we will get another 5 years of Labour !!! Remember it was Brown that promised a refurendum it was Brown that signed the treaty without one. The torys know that now it is law there is nothing you can do but go in and renegotiate what they can. REMEMBER IT WAS BROWN AND LABOUR THAT STITCHED US UP !!!

Andy

"Hang on, why will the UK go, but Germany continue?" Silly boy, David; Germany is the ruler in Europe, together with their ally, the French. They were both decidedly miffed when we wanted to join their club (after all, le Grand Charles said non, but we persisted so they let us in once they realised how it could be turned to their advantage). They've been waiting long centuries to defeat the English. We should all go to the conservativehome.com blog and look for the survey on European policy then make some suggestions of our own (under Other) re questions that should be posed if we were to be given a referendum.

Frank P

Verity

"Where the hell's our Sovereign Lady?"

Up shit-creek without a paddle if she did but know it. I see her No.1 Grandson is off to NZ. Perhaps to find a nice retirement home for her and the rest of the shortly-to-be-redundant family? I would have joined them if my little bungalow hadn't been stripped of much of its value by the mishandled economic policies of our Marxist oppressors.

Ah, well! I can at least take my constitutional with the t&s in HM's Norfolk Park each day until it is commandeered for use as a weekend retreat for the EUSSR apparatchiks.

Stepney

Thank the Lord for Billericay Dave - a rare beacon of light in what's been a murky and nutty day. Hit the nail full square on the head geezer.

Alas for the rest I cannot help but be reminded of Uncle Jimmy's secret army in the Reggie Perrin books for some reason...

Watt Tyler

@Billericay Dave

Don't you get it son? They all stitched us up. It doesn't and won't matter who has the most seats in the Palace of Westminster because no one there runs anything. We are a province of the EUSSR. Your union flag is but a dish rag now. Bow down to the ring of stars! Your money has just become an anomoly.

If Cameron does not announce an In-Out referendum, I am voting UKIP.

Snowman

In my humble opinion, Stepney (@4.39) describes the most likely immediate reaction to our new Lisbon constitution, and Publius (@4.54) the likely ending of the project. Our Dave must be mightily relieved. Anyone who believed that the Tories would give us a referendum if the Czechs say no, should seek medical help. If the Tories were genuine on their promise, they would have had a plan as to what to do after the country voted ‘no’. If they had such a plan they would have come out with it, it was a dead cert election winner.

The one aspect of the whole project that worries most is the blindness of the European (incl. British) governing elites to the inevitable ultimate rejection by the European nations of the blindingly obvious Sovetisation of the continent. The EU construct as it stands cannot be more undemocratic even if it were designed as such from the start. The shift both in the continental EU member states as well as here towards extreme nationalistic parties is but a start. The enactment of the Lisbon treaty can only give it a powerful push, and bring closer its implosion.

Watt Tyler

@Frank P

Why should the Queen and her brood of idiots need to go into exile? Her wealth and standing isn't threatened. She has just become meaningless. And understaning that this is a nice fate for her if she shuts up, she has knowingly been sigining us away unto foreign powers.

If I was the Monarch of the terrotories of Great Britain, I would have gone out with a fight. When the revolution comes (and this isn't a Left Wing revolution either) she may end up on trial - in case she thought she was safe.

Verity

Frank P - Fraser Nelson has morphed into Peter Pan and gone to live in Never-Neatherland.

Verity

Billericay Dave - Where have you been? The idea is to let Labour stagger back in on its knees, clutching the wall for support in order to get Dave sacked. A new Leader will eat Gordon Brown's, or whomever's, lunch and bring them down in a vote of No Confidence - as I have said until people are sick of reading it - in a year or 18 months max. Two birds with one stone. We get shot of Dave and New Labour all within 18 months and can start with a clean slate. Possibly with a vote on what the British want to do about this EU crapola.

2trueblue

What is peculiar is how this has become a story about the Tories.....

Spot on. B Brogan has a lot to answer for. Bang goes my subscpirtion to the Telegraph.

The tories went to the electorate on the EU and then later on immigration. Guess what? The electorate voted in Labour for the 2nd and 3rd time. The electorate can't say the opportunities were not there. Says a lot about what is going on.

Labour prodmised us a referendum, they got back into power and did not honour their pledge.

Mandleson returned from his commissioner post for one thing and one thing only, to hold the Labour party together and prevent an election prior to that event. Now it has been ratified lets see what happens.

Holly ......

Long winded folk don't last long on here?
You lot are fed the same three stories over and over again with different headers? That's why!
How cool is that?
Neather????Has your 'fave' site replied to any of you? Do the people you think you are talking to actually care what you think?
The only people taking you seriously are YOU!As long as you are on here you are NOT talking to anyone else.

Fergus Pickering

Verity, who is this new leader? Since he will be with us in two or three eyars max he must already be visible. Do you know but you aren't telling? Naughty girl. 'Come on' as an ex-Prime Minister said, give us a clue'. Could it be.... Lord John Redwood!

2trueblue

Forgot to say PMQs will be interesting tomorrow.

Tiberius

Verity: I've asked you a number of questions over time, some of which you've been kind enough to answer. But now, I have to know, what is this elixir you're taking that brings on such outpourings of fantasy?

Verity

After Palin is elected President in 2012, we should secede from the EU and petition the US to become the 51st state in the union.

What's needed is a clean sweep of all this detritus that has crept in to our national agenda since Blair slithered into office singing "Thing Can Only Get Baddah" (I think it was supposed to be "Better" but sung in a fake American accent; he had had aspirations to be a rock star, if you remember. His group was called Ugly Rumours. How prescient was that?)

General Zod

Ha! Final proof that Verity is some clever person conducting an elaborate wind-up - she is a Palin fan.

JohnAnt

I'm confused - how can Palin become President?
He's not even an American.
Surely John Cleese would have precedence, even if only by marriage and residence.
The whole project is doomed, IMO.

Verity

Read Perry de Havilland on Sarah Palin at Samizdata.com

Verity

Let us never forget that Tony Blair was an unknown, low-achieving MP and came out of nowhere with his message of "things can only get better". No one, outside his constituency, had ever heard of him before he got elbowed onto centre stage.

He had no history. No achievements. He was an unknown. Knowing that Blair is hardly the brightest light in the harbour, how did he do that?

Who was backing him?

Cameron has no history in the House. No achievements. At least Blair, creepy as he is, was called to the Bar. Cameron doesn't even have that. He is a nowhere man. He was a pr manager. And he was catapulted from that to party leader? How?

Why?

Why did Blair get catapulted from his constituency wherever to leader of a party?

How did these two individuals come from absolutely nowhere and walk onto the national stage with a huge, managed, surge behind them?

They were both totally undistinguished
blank slates, and became party leaders.

Two blank slates.

Why?

DavidDP

"They've been waiting long centuries to defeat the English"

Ah. So the entire EU project is about getting rid of Britain. All the other countries will remain. Uh-huh.

It's nice they let you have internet access at the asylum.

Tankus

NO.... the whole EU choo choo is nothing but an old boys club for expense fiddling troughers, so that they can have another bite at the cherry .Job creation for the political class .

All aboard ! .......and so they are !

Nothing more , and certainly nothing less.

How else could utter F&%@wits like kinnock and mandy "earn" over £1m plus for just a few years "labour" .

Everything is 100% planned and carried out (along with the loot) by some very devious and seriously corrupt @£%$ers only intent on personal gain.

The Mafia aren't the only organised international crime syndicate that has gone global, ignoring international boundaries.

The EU has franchises everywhere.

EC

"The EU has franchises everywhere."

Common Purpose!

General Zod

Verity - "Read Perry de Havilland on Sarah Palin at Samizdata.com"

read and you are either a wind-up merchant or a loony.