Labour and the KGB

Vulture

Liebour was always a coalition between patriots like Ernie Bevin, Hugh Dalton, Hugh Gaitskell and Clem Attlee and Communists and their fellow travellers such as the Webbs, Stifford Crapps, Ian Mikardo and so on.

In the 60s the drunk George Brown lost out as Liebour leader to Harold Wilson, whose murky Soviet-bloc links gave MI5 every reason to think he was a mole.

More recently the KGB defector Gordievsky revealed that Trade Union boss Jack Jones, who died a few months ago - was a paid KGB agent.

Obviously, the Communists inside Liebour mentored proteges and disciples and their poisonous spawn flourishes still. In the end the much derided conspiracy theorists may have the last laugh : a lot of the damage inflicted on Britain by this disastrous party was deliberate sabotage rather than mere fumbling incompetence.

This poison should be thoroughly purged from our system. A good first step would be for you, Fraser, to stop nurturing your Liebour pets like Purnell and make it clear that membership of this nest of vermin is simply unacceptable for decent human beings.

Colonel Cruster

We're not interested - socialists stick together - what's new? Wedgie Benn would love a Soviet style UK. So would a lot of Labour.

It would, however, be interesting to read about Kaufmans allegedly rampant 'dating' over the years. That is a serial thriller begging to be told.PLease.

Peter

So all those who were pilloried over the years for accusing Labour of being Communist bed-fellows have been proved right. And perhaps more frighteningly correct than they ever imagined.

And for how long was Kinnock near the seat of power in Brussels?.........

IH

I'm with Vulture.

oldtimer

A pity the translations only date from 1985. The 1970s would be especially interesting given the many contemporary connections between Communist shop stewards, the then Communist party industrial organiser and industrial strikes. Can you arrange a full translation?

In2minds

Fraser Nelson wrote - “Michael Foot (who welcomed Brezhnev as 'comrade')", I wonder how Peter Mandelson addresses Manuel Barroso? Remember Barroso was a Maoist in his youth.

R King

Communists are ruled by dictators and the people don't get to vote!!!

What's changed with Brown??

Dirty Euro

So the tories are now in alliance with the Latvian SS.

Olaf Rye

This is obscene, but as the article mentions, it has long been suspected. Because of some childish animosity towards the US, which was not sufficiently deferential to the 'wise and cultured' socialists in Europe, they decided to help one of the most criminal states in the history of the world. This just shows how morally bankrupt, treacherous, treasonous, and stupid the Left has always been.

strapworld

Fraser, Twice in two days. Now can I have the promised article please!

Colonel Cruster. Wedgie Benn has had his soviet style UK government for the past twelve years! Look where it got us!

And, you should be interested. Treason is treason is treason.

These labour shi s are an absolute disgrace and should all be put on trial. Those that are dead should be publicly shamed. IF Blair can apologise for the alleged sins of our forefathers, we can surely kick the ass of those that wanted ill for this country!

Now I will sit back and await that nice Mr Nelson's epistle on the Communistic Labour Government and uncontrolled immigration.

Moraymint

Is it any wonder that we're now on our knees after 12 years of the New Labour Third Way, also known as Marxism-By-The-Back-Door, brought to us courtesy of B-Cubed (the Blair, Brown, Balls triumvirate).

The Russians and the Labour Party have at last got what the wanted: an utterly wrecked (dis)United Kingdom and a neutered and rather pointless Conservative Party. Bingo!

I call it treason.

PS Isn't it "all tolled", btw Fraser? Sorry to be a pedant.

Fraser Nelson

strapworld, i am trying to keep back at it. There's so much going on back of shop. I have drafted a Neather piece but I need to get my hands on a couple of charts. Interest may have died down now anyway....

Frank P

Why did it need the prattling of Oborne and the Kauf of precious Gerald to convince you what the commentariat on this blog have been telling you since the its inception (and on other blogs for many years)?

And ... what Vulture says with knobs on.

Moreover, you don't seem to have yet picked up the connection between these revelations and those of Neather. It's a part of a whole and was planned in a prison cell in Italy and by a band of Bastards - the Frankfort School, who were dispersed throughout the West to achieve their ends. Their descendants must have raised a rousing cheer yesterday when Cameron's naive 'plan' confirmed that another stage in The Long March is now in place. We may even get part of the Frankfort mutation installed as its 'Foreign Minister; his genes are replete with Marxist mire oozing from Highgate Cemetery.

What some dissident Russki is prepared to throw into the pot, probably with intentions as layered as the Russian Doll given his antecedents, pales into insignificant when placed beside a welter of evidence that has been in public circulation for years.

It is clear that changes of government in the 'UK' regardless of their hues (or camouflage as the case may be) will do nothing to halt the progress of the ugly politics of envy.

Our only hope now is that the fight back in the US, which started yesterday, will change the geopolitical landscape.

I recommend that any youngsters under 55 who value freedom, go West to assist in the struggle to eradicate the pernicious slow-acting Marxist toxins.

Great Britain is already done for; England is merely twitching in its death throes, as those of us at death's door refuse to go gently into the dark night.

The EUSSR will now return to its natural course of internecine warring, as the militant Islamic jihad moves inexorably onwards and inwards.

The sheer stupidity, vanity and personal ambitions involved in our surrender is mind-numbing as the days of Dhimmitude draw nigh.

And all against a backdrop of a handful brave patriots, under-funded and under-equipped spilling their blood, while attempting to thwart the murderous Muslim militants, as Nero Obambi fiddles and sucks his pearly-whites and Gargoyle Brown, the megalomaniac claims to be the saviour of the world's finances.

Robert Eve

No surprises there then.

Why do people vote for these traitors at each election?

The Puppet Master

Ironically Pravda has an article out today comparing the EU to the old Soviet Union. The mystery is, why would anybody want to follow a failed system, given that we know it will eventually collapse under its own bureaucratic weight? I wonder how long we will have to endure this socialist nightmare before the people will finally rise up.
We've been betrayed by all our politicians, labour just did it more deviously. Hopefully they'll all be executed in the near future.

Danny Young

So Gordon Brown was given his first safe-seat as a gift from the T&G union, who itself was being run at the time by communists & KGB infiltrators??

Interesting...

Andre

This piece is so poorly written with such appalling grammar and syntax that I cannot take it seriously.

CS

Talking of bits that have yet to be translated from the original, please could someone translate Frank P's above post to the planet Earth.

Verity

No, Fraser, it hasn't died down. Interest in the intent to murder our country by the infusion of millions of toxins into our national bloodstream is still of compelling interest.

Wily Trout

...and Kinnick STILL couldn't get himself elected.

Nicholas

From the article in Pravda likening the EU to the old USSR and specifically discusing East Germany (the blueprint for ex-Marxist student Brown & Gang's vision for Britain):-

"The Stasi, inheriting brutal, effective Gestapo methods, was keeping tabs on most of the East German population. Under the pretext of fighting terrorism, it listened in on all telephone conversations, opened all envelopes and read all letters. It kept controls on anyone entering or leaving the country. An army of almost 100,000 secret agents, helped by 200,000 civilian collaborators, spied day and night on East Germany's 16 million citizens. Most European governments today are using time-honored Stasi techniques to keep their citizens under surveillance."

New Labour need destroying.

Jez

Verity,

FN; "Interest may have died down now anyway...."

He's winding you up.

Olaf Rye

Tories in an alliance with the Latvian SS ? What utter nonsense ! How can a coalition with multiple parties in the EU possibly be comparable in treachery to Labour MPs colluding with agents of an hostile foreign nation for ideological purposes ? I think the monstrosity of the USSR and its attempts to enslave Western Europe must be emphasised over and over again, before socialists can suggest some sort of moral equivalence between the treachery and possibly even treasonous behaviour of their antecedents and the expediency of political coalitions in the European parliament.

The USSR was, indeed, an evil empire that was just as criminal as Nazi Germany. Those in Western Europe that made apologies for it demonstrated their stupidity, poor judgement, and general animosity towards an open society. This is true of the apologists for Cuba, too. Socialists love to stomp on individual rights and freedoms and will gladly seek partners abroad to achieve this.

Michael Booth

"Fraser Nelson wrote - “Michael Foot (who welcomed Brezhnev as 'comrade')", I wonder how Peter Mandelson addresses Manuel Barroso? Remember Barroso was a Maoist in his youth".

How about 'Caro mio'

Alexandrovich

Of course you're rushed off you feet Fraser. So, chuck the draft up and we'll make do with that. Capitals are obviously not important and don't worry about SMS style or transatlantic 'newspeak'.
We can wade through it, and just think - you may break the comments record.

Alexandrovich

As an afterthought, I don't suppose Dave would consider an in/out referendum on an 'if you really want one' basis.
Although "Interest may have died down now anyway...." might seem too tempting.

Noa Zrk

Labour and the KGB. How refreshing it would be to see some wet work on these demonstrably proven traitors.

JohnAnt

I wonder if the KGB - or any other Communist secret service - recorded any dealings with that young openly maoist communist firebrand, Manuel Barroso, who later changed - or simply camouflaged? - his spots in order to grasp political power.

TGF UKIP

Coffee Housers may wish to go to bbc.co.uk/today and listen to the final segment timed at 8.55 to hear the BBC's attempt to sanitize the revelations.

Humphrys, predictably in his best "ho, ho ho!" style, "all a bum rap then" to the BBC's choice of Soviet expert, Professor Robert Service of Oxford. A quick wikipedia on Service gives a good indication of precisely where he may be coming from.

These diaries really need to be taken in conjunction with Gordievsky's naming of not only Labour Party people but an alarming number of the leading trade union leaders of the time, including some who were categorized back then as moderate or even right wing.

Back in the seventies and eighties the Labour Party National Executive, comprised of politicos and union leaders, held great sway in the Party and in the Labour Government when they were in power. The question, therefore, becomes one of just how many of them were either active Soviet agents or were at least categorized by the KGB as Soviet sympathizers.

What would be of at least equal interest, though, is the degree of Soviet influence or control over the BBC. Given that the Soviets were pastmasters of propaganda the country's paramount organ must have been a major target for the KGB London Rezident.

Indeed, Fraser, if this week and next week's diary revelations in The Speccie prompt a "thundering" leader, Today's 8.55 attempt at sanitization might not be a bad place to start.

Peter From Maidstone

I'm with Alexandrovich. Just post the draft of your piece here and let us have a read. Its the argument that matters not the style. And will you be extending the interesting work on the Soviet influence on the Labour Party to include a major piece on the backgrounds of the present Labour leadership?

Any Colour but Brown

One wonders what a young James Gordon Brown was up to vis à vis the USSR?

Dirty Euro

Frank PA What do you mean England is twitching its death throes it is already part of the UK. You cannot have it both ways. Either England is dead already as it is not an independent state and in the UK or it is not dead and it part of other unions or are you one of these oafs who think England is another term for the UK.

David Lindsay

Ted Short? I mean, we all know that there was a large pro-Soviet faction within Labour. And some of us know that it, with the Communist Party itself and with the Trots, created New Labour, having followed academic Marxism's transition from economic to social, cultural and constitutional means, like the American Trotskyists who surrounded Bush, or the Portuguese Maoist who, via a rabidly "free"-marketeering and pro-Bush Premiership, is now the President of the European Commission. But Ted Short was decorated by Franco, is a Compnaonion of Honour (in the personal gift of the monarch), and is or was a Vice-President of the Prayer Book Society. Just ask any Hard Leftists who go back to the Wilson era what they think of Short. Please don't spoil a good and important story with something as silly as this.

biggestaspidistra

FN:"Interest may have died down now anyway...."

My trust in the Spectator is down, but interest in the Neather revelation as high as ever.

Gargoyle

Vote Traitor , Vote Labour ?

Marin

The revelations don't surprise me; I've suspected that this may be the case by simply listening to the rhetoric and noticing the policies of New Labour (they are, in my opinion, culturally at the very least, far to the left of the policies of so called socialist regimes in the former Eastern Block countries). These people have never accepted to defeat of the Communist ideology and, quite simply, seek once again to implement it by the back door. And, if you wonder, I know all this from personal experience.

Noa Zrk

Nicholas
November 5th, 2009 5:15pm

From the article in Pravda likening the EU to the old USSR and specifically discusing East Germany (the blueprint for ex-Marxist student Brown & Gang's vision for Britain):-

"The Stasi, inheriting brutal, effective Gestapo methods, was keeping tabs on most of the East German population. Under the pretext of fighting terrorism, it listened in on all telephone conversations, opened all envelopes and read all letters. It kept controls on anyone entering or leaving the country. An army of almost 100,000 secret agents, helped by 200,000 civilian collaborators, spied day and night on East Germany's 16 million citizens. Most European governments today are using time-honored Stasi techniques to keep their citizens under surveillance."

Now we can understand what Brown means when he waffles about protecting public services

Bunnykins

Those of us who lived through the horrors of Seventies Britain knew all this anyway. Blame Labour for treason by all means, but don't forget how it was ably abetted by the sneering members of the Cambridge Footlights and suchlike whose sole mandate was (and still is) to scoff at anything they considered reactionary. Attitudes which were given direct access to the public domain via the BBC. I imagine, given the general way of things, reaction to this 'revalation' will be predictable. Chernyaev will be called a liar who's sold out to the US, and in the blink of an eye, the media will move on to more pressing matters such as "Britney Spears - was she miming or not." And we sit back and let this happen over, and over, and over again. I'm afraid de Tocqueville was right... we have got 'the government we deserve'.