Hain’s hollow rhetoric 

Peter From Maidstone

But it's not even clear that the Spectator will engage with people on these issues. It is the whole political class which has failed the people and must be swept away. If the Spectator will not be part of the solution then it is hypocritical to condemn even someone like Hain. We don't need award winning commentary on the collapse of British democracy and society, commentary without action is worthless.

While the Spectator won't even do proper journalism in regard to Neather then it can't criticise anyone in Labour's ranks. Silence on these issues by The Spectator is just as much a failure, and just as much a cause of the BNPs support.

Michael Booth

would have been much better to question Hain on the links between Labour and the KGB/ Soviet Union. I would imagine he knows quite a bit, considering his own political roots. The Chernyaev Diaries point the finger at key socialists such as Jack Jones, Alex Kitson, Michael Foot and Niel Kinnock - with more stuff yet to come out. The Trotskyite/Maoist origins of some of the present cabinet would also be worth exploring with Mr Hain.

Michael Booth

Neather the Hain shall meet?

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When 'good' men do nothing?

Wilhem

I loathe, despise and detest with all of my body this creature, Peter Hain.

Last night on Question Time when Robert Kilroy Silk mentioned Neather and liebours immigration plan to rub the tories faces in it.

Hain squirmed and squeeled '' he didnt say it, he didnt say it.''

Absolute garbage, this joker Hain was born in Kenya, lived in South Africa for 20 years, has systematicaly set out with malice and cunning to destroy the cohesion and frabic of England.

Peter Hain's arrogance and ego on QT was breadthtaking.

Dennis Churchill

The first three posting are connected. Tolerance of agents of foreign powers (what about the Stasi agents whose names we have never been given?)The Neather “Revelations” about changing the ethnic makeup of the country without consulting the indigenous population, come down to a lack of Patriotism.
Yes, Patriotism.A word that is sneer worthy for the British political class but virtually nowhere else in the world.
As I posted on the Afghanistan topic below, Mandelson described the Brigade of Guards, on Irish radio, as “Chinless Wonders”. I was in Ireland at the time and heard the programme. There was silence from his interviewer.It would be unimaginable for an Irish Minister to describe the Irish army like that and continue in office.
There is a hole in our political debate where patriotism should be, and the BNP will fill it.
Hain and others, in our political class, do not believe in the concept of nationality whereas the vast majority of the electorate do. That is why they can’t debate with the British National Party.

TomTom

Every MP should go through a CRB check including MI5 screening so voters can know if they are suited for their employment

Boudicca

I agree with Peter from Maidstone. The mainstream media has collectively failed to properly investigate the revelations from Neather that the Labour Government deliberately encouraged mass immigration in order to produce a multi-cultural Britain that no-one had voted for and with the sub-intent of 'discomforting' the right and making them irrelevant.

Virtually ignoring an important commentary on Labour's immigration policy from someone very close to the Prime Minister just encourages people to turn to the only Party which is prepared to talk about the issue - the BNP.

Hain is just a Labour control freak. He doesn't really believe in free-speech unless he approves of the people and (to a degree) what they are saying. He is one of the reasons why the BNP is gaining popularity.

Michael Booth: very droll. Made me smile.

Beer Moth

But hang on, Labour have not failed, they have succeeded.

Their avowed aim was to flood the country with foreigners, so that we the natives would be relieved of the quaint notion that we belonged. A neat by-product would be the undermining of the trades' wage structure so that the cost of the typical Islington kitchen makeover would plummet.

A spectacular success, for which they will soon be rewarded.

Frank P

Michael Booth

Perfick!

terence patrick hewett

Hain wont share a platform with the BNP because he knows they will bring up the hazy area of his involvement with the Johannesburg Railway Station atrocity.

logdon

I watched him on QT. Same message from the tangerine tit.

Even Dimbleby had to shut the idiot's rant down, quite succinctly reminding him that we do live in a democracy and that as an elected party the BNP is entitled to free speech.

You'll get him banging on about Mugabe, yet here he is, talking of utilising the same methods of clamping down on all dissent.

Somebody should remind him, of all ideologies, the left has slaughtered far more than any other in its drive to envelope the world in grey uniformity.

And moving on, Peter' from Maidstone’s comments encapsulate the whole fraud perfectly.

A politico/media cabal is so scared even of it's own shadow not one mainstream outlet will go near Neather.

The politically correct hypocrisy infecting our establishment has reached rock bottom.

Thank God for the alternative internet where truth counts more than the gloating approval of a cabal of belligerent minorities and their rabid supporters.

Melanie's phrase 'hollowed out' is perfectly apt. Our establishment has become eviscerated by the false Pied Piper of Eternal Loveliness.

Those people are selling us out, both to an unelected new papacy of Europe and a desire to completely obliterate our nationality to be replaced by the Third World and Islam.

That most of the Third World and Islam, is a basket case and they’re actually fleeing this catastrophe in droves escapes the tiny minds of multiculturalist morons.

Bring it on. Let them in. Let them behave precisely as they did in the lands they are fleeing. Remember as that historical genius, Bonny Greer pointed out, there is no such entity as the English.

So robbed even of the birthright of nationality, we’re meant to lie back and think of God knows what, certainly not England, as the rest rapes us?

That’s what it all boils down to.

Barbara

Hain does not like free speech, he tries to stop others expressing their views, his tirade against the bnp is a fine example. Anyone who's a citizen of this country is entitled to free speech he seems to lack that thought, and his arrorgance is not lacking in suggesting on QT this week that the bbc promoted the bnp by letting them on the programme. He was given short shrift from DB, and rightly so. Has for the bnp, what they have proposed in their manifesto's seem to be coming true, and perhaps that's what Hain cannot stomach, the truth is out. Labour have politically engineered immigration for their own ends, and to many that's betrayal of the worst kind. We now have the other betrayal of no vote on the Lisbon Treaty, which they have signed without consultation and by an unelected PM, it gets worse by the day and their position is untenable by the hour. They should call an election, so we can bring in a party who will speak for us the people of these islands, and that goes too, for all papers in this country who enjoy the support of the people. Its about time we put US first and the rest second. HAIN is wrong on may things and looks foolish by the day too and he knows he's had it like the party he belongs to.

Alexandrovich

Peter From Maidstone: on the money.
Bang on the money!

Frank P

Logdon is in top form. Why is he not writing the posts?

David

" Labour’s, and indeed the other main parties’, rhetoric still rings hollow; sadly, infuriatingly, the BNP will prosper. "

There is only only other main party, viz. the Tory Party. Is naming it in critical mode verboten?

Number 7

I can remember this character and his "friends" on the South Stand at Twickenham in the 70s (SA vs England). They thought that the police were protecting the crowd from them!

He still has that same sense of self delusion - ZanuLiebour are in serious trouble in his own back yard where even the monkey in a red shirt has a problem (see Blaenau Gwent).

As an aside WRT expenses - Is he still employing his mother as his secretary?

Quote from his expenses:-
(Source - Daily Telegraph)

"Iemploy my mother, Adelaine Hain, as part-time Secretary.”

Surely she's over retirement age!

So you've got your nose in the trough with the rest of them.

It's amazing what comes round on the blind side!!!!

Noa Zrk

Hain. He wasn't made to sweat much for a fat man by Bimblebilly was he?

gareth

thanks Logdon.

Moraymint

" ... sadly, infuriatingly, the BNP will prosper".

Sadly, infuriatingly, for as long as our mainstream political parties refuse to acknowledge that we are fighting on all fronts - including the home front - a medieval culture that has the potential to overwhelm us if we continue to ignore it as we do, then the BNP will flourish.

http://tinyurl.com/yajf322

The problem is not the BNP. The problem is the likes of Peter Hain who insist on ramming "multiculturalism" down our necks, whether we like it or not.

They just don't get it, do they?

Amadeus Plonquer

I for one am a great Peter Hain fan. In my eyes Hain is the political equivalent of Michael Jackson (albeit in reverse). Hain began life as a white person and over the decades has visibly graduated into a black man. But his greatest achievement is surely his 'HainWalk' - where he claims to be a progressive but is fact is going backwards.

Astonishing.

Wilhelm

Peter Hain the pain was a little shit stirrer , excuse my language and trouble maker in the 1970s.

When he was 19 he rioted against the South African rugby team and he started the anti nazi league and is chums with the dopey Unite Against Facist knuckleheads.

Archie

Well, no surprise that NuLabour couldn't scrape a team together to debate Nick Griffin after his revelation about Jack Straw's father, who knows what dirt he has on Hain and the rest of the ghastly shower?

Archie

@logdon: perfect, as usual.....but, by God we WON'T take it! I see a terrible retribution coming to those who sold the pass!

Roger Davies

When I see Hain I visualize the BNP, but without the racism. When I see Hain and his Cronies, I see the same spiritual emptiness of Honecker and his Communist thugs. Given a free hand Labour would consign democracy to the dustbin of history and in signing the Lisbon Const-Treaty they are making good headway.

AngloWelshDragon

If only the MSM would proclaim Neather from the rooftops. If this betrayal were widely known among labour's so-called core vote, most white working class Brits would never vote labour again. Maybe if the Speccie did a little piece on Neather the rest would follow (oh go on Fraser.. you know you want to!)

Martin Sewell

I think Marr could properly raise Labour's KGB associations by asking whether the Prime Minister, having been sponsored into his seat by 2 KGB agent Union bosses. is in any position to criticise the Conservatives allies in Europe.

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NEXT!!

Nicholas

Amadeus Plonquer. Priceless!

Roger Davies. Correct. New Labour and their front bench most resemble Honicker's regime. They came to power on the pretence of a move to the centre (making Labour electable again) but their policies have betrayed the totalitarian communist extremist roots most of them sprang from and have certainly betrayed England.

They like to dish out the "extremist" label. Well, they are extremists themselves and should never be trusted with power in this country, ever again.

The way the media treat them as a respectable, parliamentary party disgusts me. A party in cahoots with our deadliest Cold War enemy? There are many skeletons in Labour's closets, old and new, and one day I hope they come rattling out with a noise so loud that terms of imprisonment for these nasty, corrupt traitors become inevitable.

Robert Eve

Marr is part of the problem.

biggestaspidistra

Did Fraser ever post on Neather? I know he got as far as the draft a while back.

Alan Douglas

Your headline is too long.

"Hain’s hollow"
would have been enough.

Is he still employing his 80+ year old mother on our behalf (and with OUR money ?)

Alan Douglas

Vulture

Lest Coffee Housers be puzzled by Terence Hewitt's reference to Hain's links to the Johannesburg railway atrocity, let me explain.

In July 1964 John Harris, a close friend of Hain's family, left a time bomb in Jo'burg station. It killed one person and seriously injured 20 others. Harris was hanged for the crime. Soon afterwards Hain and his parents left South Africa to continue their mischief here.

Hain is an inveterate and bitter enemy of Britain and always has been. He is also a liar, a faker and a fraud. He pollutes
British politics by his oily presence.

Frank P

Vulture

A very fine reprise of history with a just assessment of the heinous Hain. The sneer on his face is as fixed as his Permatan.

Laban Tall

There was a revealing comment by Roy Hattersley in the Guardian in July, about his 30-odd years as Sparkbrook MP.

"For most of my 33 years in Westminster, I was able to resist Sparkbrook's demands about the great issues of national policy – otherwise, my first decade would have been spent opposing all Commonwealth immigration and my last calling for withdrawal from the European Union."

By the end of his 33 years, Sparkbrook had been transformed.

Noa Zrk

Obviously there's a burgeoning interest in the pre-history of the curiously hued Marcher Lord who is obviously trying, like Dracula, to resurrect a dead career.
For those seeking further enlightenment the following link will assist.

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/10/former-bank-robber-suspect-accuses-bnp-of-breaking-the-law/

Ivy Eileen

@Wilhem - "loathe, despise and detest ".

Sorry, Wilhem, you'll have to take second place. I was born in Neath and my aunt (although a Conservative) was Donald Coleman's secretary. He was one of the old school Labour M.P.'s .... then, when he died, this jerk was dropped in to this safe seat by Kinnock and Foot without a by-your-leave to the local Labour party.

Hain is a vain opportunist of the first order. As with Brown, lamp posts and chicken wire come immediately to mind.

Marcher Baron

"Obviously there's a burgeoning interest in the pre-history of the curiously hued Marcher Lord who is obviously trying, like Dracula, to resurrect a dead career." Hain the Odious is NOT a Marcher Lard - sorry, Lord - Noa Zrk. I should know, I live in the Marches, which, sadly, like the rest of England, has been totally trashed by Labour's ethnic cleansing policy, as admitted by Neather. To think that Magna Carta enshrined that in the Marches, Marcher Law would hold sway! I wonder if we could declare independence from the rest of the country and restore our traditional rights.

Noa Zrk

Marcher Baron.

I stand corrected, the Welsh Secretary is not a Lord, at least not yet, though no doubt a Gorbals Mick pension will be his in due course. Much more of an outlaw really and you should apply the full rigour of the law.

2trueblue

The electorate have themselves to blame. The 2 most discussed things right now apart form the economy, are the EU and immigration. The tories went to the polls on the EU and the last time they went on immigration. What did the electorate do? On both occasions they returned Labour to power.
So we now have a totally wrecked country governed from Europe and an immigration policy that will now be set by Europe.

This government have had a very easy ride form the media and there has been no real challenge allowed. Real information has been very hard to come by and the list of initiatives announced are never followed up or tracked to see if anyting actually happens. That is the tragedy, it has been allowed by an electorate that did not bother to get out and vote.

Dennis Churchill

2trueblue
Another way of looking at voting patterns is reported in today’s Mail where the relationship between rates of welfare dependency and voting patterns is shown.
Have a look at:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226031/EXPOSED-How-Labour-depends-votes-Welfare-Britain.html

2trueblue

Thanks D Churchill, will read. It took 29,000 votes for a Labour sat in the last election and 42,000 for a tory seat. It wil eb interesting to see if that has changed!

Dennis Churchill

Now we have the revelations about “Operation Brace” allowing virtually unchecked immigration.

Hepworth

During his straight talk interview, Mr Hain stated that the BNP broke up his meeting with "violence."
Now I attended this meeting with three other members (out of curiosity) and oddly enough one off our number asked, "what happened to the 100,3000. Peter.
That was the extent of BNP "violence".
On the video below is proof that the only violence on view that day was offered by Mr Hain's office manager. How odd Mr Hain should tell a blatant lie, Thats not like him...Is it?

Hepworth

The truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBN9fMO_iks&feature=channel