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Renewed tension between Brown and Darling

David Blackburn 12:06pm

Alistair Darling did look slightly apprehensive when Gordon Brown gatecrashed the G20 finance meeting on Saturday. And how right Darling was: the Prime Minister’s Tobin tax proposal was met with gawping disbelief; it was as if Bernie Madoff had strolled into the room as the new head of the IMF. It is very telling that only the disingenuous French, who can’t believe their luck, support the proposals.

The FT reports that Darling is livid that Brown would risk alienating the UK by announcing a policy that he knew the US and others would publicly oppose. The ploy may have been a desperate vote grab, but the Global Statesman of the Year is now a Global Figure of Mirth - Groucho Marx with the ability to raise tax - and he’s back-peddling furiously. An aide tells the FT:

“We’re not that massively wedded to a transactions tax. We’re not saying ‘it’s this or nothing’ – we’re saying we need a deal.”  

Thankfully, Brown’s political strength, both in Cabinet, the country at large and internationally, has disintegrated to the point where he can’t conduct further full scale wrecking of Britain’s very fragile future.

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Verityred

November 9th, 2009 12:51pm Report this comment

You would laugh if the bumbling loon wasn't the Prime Mimister of this nation of ours. Every pathetic and self serving thing he does to cling to power just goes off in his face. He is a clown and a failed clown at that. Apologies to real and decent clowns everywhere.

Dennis Sewell

November 9th, 2009 12:53pm Report this comment

it was as if Bernie Madoff had strolled into the room as the new head of the IMF.

Priceless. Do lend it to Osborne for his next speech.

JohnOfEnfield

November 9th, 2009 1:03pm Report this comment

Don't you believe it.

Mad Gord Brown can and will continue his scorched earth policy.

1. QE. Printing money & then borrowing 99% of it back.
2. A budget overrun of about 50% or the national debt he inherited in 1997 in 2009/10 & for the following year as well.
3. A trade deficit of unprecedented & unsustainable proportions.

This man is a menace to our very existence as a solvent nation. He MUST be removed forthwith before the "Gnomes of Zurich" make another appearance.

2trueblue

November 9th, 2009 1:19pm Report this comment

Control freak.

logdon

November 9th, 2009 1:21pm Report this comment

What's happening to his neck?

Is the weight of that enormous intellect shoving his head so far down that it'll be up his arse (from the other end) before too long?

denis cooper

November 9th, 2009 1:53pm Report this comment

Brown may feel the need to be cautious in his dealings with Darling, but he's far more scared of Merkel and Sarkozy.

Don't ask me to explain exactly why that should be the case - maybe it's just because when the two of them work together they become the core of a controlling coalition within the EU, or maybe it's because he knows that they've shared the product of their efficient intelligence services, and have some serious dirt on him.

I can only adopt the empirical approach of looking at his behaviour, without fully understanding the underlying causes, and that study has led me to the conclusion that he'll normally do whatever Merkel and Sarkozy want, even when he must surely know that it's against the interests of his own country.

In effect he's their client; but as he's also Obama's client, there may be conflicting interests. On the other hand, there's no room for conflict with the interests of the British people, as they count for nothing in Brown's mind.

In this case, the happy couple support the introduction of the Tobin Tax, and that immediately explains why their servant Brown has proposed it.

http://www.euractiv.com/en/financial-services/eu-warms-tobin-tax/article-185605

"EU warms to Tobin Tax

Published: Monday 21 September 2009

EU leaders are showing renewed interest in taxing global financial transactions to help poor countries by means of a so-called Tobin Tax. After receiving the backing of France and Germany, the European Commission is looking again at a subject that has been broadly neglected so far."

I won't be surprised if Tory loyalists come on and push their standard, but now rather worn, party line that "It's nothing whatsoever to do with the EU", but that's only to be expected.

The EEC/EC/EU has increasingly become an embarrassment to the Tory party which took us into it and wants us to stay in it, and according to them it rarely has anything to do with anything, even when it blatantly has.

Verity

November 9th, 2009 1:56pm Report this comment

I see that something calling itself Verityred is riding on the back of my name again.

You're not strong enough to establish an identity of your own? Hmmm, judging from the pedestrian quality of your vapid posts, no.

Bunnykins

November 9th, 2009 2:03pm Report this comment

JohnOfEnfield "This man is a menace to our very existence as a solvent nation". I thought solvency involved a modicum of financial competence. I'm afraid Liebour took both the country and the currency into the 'red' some while ago.

Nicholas Hallam

November 9th, 2009 2:05pm Report this comment

Further proof, were it needed, that Brown has not the faintest idea how the global financial markets function.

Tankus

November 9th, 2009 2:06pm Report this comment

"has disintegrated to the point where he can’t conduct further full scale wrecking of Britain’s very fragile future."

You are so wrong . I'm just waiting for his invite to the four horsemen for caviare and champers at Chequers. Demanding a box of matches , a supertanker of petrol , and a fiddle, for gifts.

Jonny B Good

November 9th, 2009 2:33pm Report this comment

Gordon is a Moron.

Frank P

November 9th, 2009 3:19pm Report this comment

logdon

"What's happening to his neck?"

The Godfather of the Tartan Mafia is beginning to look like his counterparts in Cosa Nostra: refrigerators without wheels.

Verityred

November 9th, 2009 3:31pm Report this comment

I see Verity has risen from the swamp to fire off a limp insult. Shame you didn't post one of your droning and predictable posts. You know, the sort that gets many a commentator here to say, 'Change the record for god's sake'. Now back to gazing at your picture of Simon Heffer and living in the past!

Paul L

November 9th, 2009 3:41pm Report this comment

Oh Verity, you truly are the Norma Desmond of the Coffee House.

Bunnykins

November 9th, 2009 4:40pm Report this comment

Verityred. Are you lashing out for any particular reason?

amanfromMars

November 9th, 2009 5:33pm Report this comment

It's all part of the grand old socialist, New Labour stealth plan to collapse the Capitalist money system ......

Fact is stranger than fiction and much more effective for Real Lasting Revolutionary Change

Here’s an interesting thought which is easily transferred from the war theatre [and in which it was first shared] to the civil stage ……. A MultiTasking Intelligent Enigmatic Device and Decoy Ploy/Mole Role Play…….. and crashing Parliament with QEFunding being Lost and Unaccounted for/Trousered and Off Shore Loaded is something waiting in the Wings too.

[quote]If the UK was invaded, bombed and occupied by another Nation’s forces? What would you do if this Nation then went on to change the very fabric of society in favour of their own particular political model? Would you try to repel the invaders, would you fight for the country of your birth or would you welcome them with open arms?[/quote]

You would probably be best doing exactly what Gordon Brown and Tony Blair and Peter Mandelson and Alastair Campbell are doing with their New Labour Party Trojan Worm and work to destroy the Capitalist System which supports the invaders from within, and use a lot of spin to make it seem as if you are doing the exact opposite ……. and hope that no one guesses your real agenda and realises the Games you are playing for the Socialist cause. These guys are real heroes.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kelly-reforms-are-merely-assumptions-and-may-be-rejected-1816574.html

Bexleyite

November 9th, 2009 6:24pm Report this comment

Thankfully, Brown’s political strength, 'both in Cabinet, the country at large and internationally, has disintegrated to the point where he can’t conduct further full scale wrecking of Britain’s very fragile future'

Where did you get that idea from? He's got at least 5 months to go yet.

Frank P

November 9th, 2009 6:39pm Report this comment

This Daily Mash post sums it up:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/god-is-a-banker-200911082211/

.... .... ......

November 9th, 2009 7:16pm Report this comment

Paul L.
Re ND.GOOGLE...IMAGES...THE BLUENUMBER..
ENLARGE IMAGE....YIKES.
Alfie G

Simon Denis

November 9th, 2009 10:51pm Report this comment

It's clearly the nature of the beast - he seems to feel a titanic need to be at someone or something's throat - Blair, Darling, the British taxpayer, Oxford University, national independence...

Amadeus Plonquer

November 10th, 2009 3:38am Report this comment

I have a suggestion - and I mean this in all seriousness.

HAS ANYONE CHECKED GORDON BROWN'S SIGNATURE ON THE LISBON TREATY?

There's a good chance he may have spelled his name wrong.

jon ryan

November 10th, 2009 12:32pm Report this comment

Denis Cooper said:
"Brown may feel the need to be cautious in his dealings with Darling, but he's far more scared of Merkel and Sarkozy.

Don't ask me to explain exactly why that should be the case..."

Aw,please explain. Psychic powers? You have an insider feeding you hot information? You are in fact Angela Merkel?
C'mon, Dennis. We could all do with a laugh.

I'm therealVerity

November 10th, 2009 12:45pm Report this comment

*sigh* if only we had more of those nice people from abroad living here, things would be so much more in harmony.

Peter From Maidstone

November 10th, 2009 3:22pm Report this comment

Gordon Brown's signature is on the Lisbon Treaty here....

newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44301000/jpg/_44301896_brownsig_203.jpg

Although it does look like Goodo Buwww.

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