CoffeeHousers' Wall 23 November - 29 November

Alun Reynolds

Not much about the Climate Research Unit emails coming to light about at the moment. The BBC News website is focusing on the hacking and whether legal action will/can be taken.

Was covered on Today this morning though. Briefly and with the last word to the Climate Change Asserter (as usual)

Michael Booth

"But, more than anything, we want this Wall to become a means of better communication between the Coffee House team and you, the readers. If you want us to write on anything in particular - add a comment to the Wall. If you want to ask us any questions - add a comment to the Wall. If you have any thoughts about this feature - add a comment to the Wall. The Coffee House team will do its best to get involved in the conversations that you start".

'Thus quoth the Raven, Neathermore!'

Phillip

Where is the debate on AGW going? Given the (unauthorised) release of emails from climate scientists that appear to cast shadows of doubt over the methods and ethics they employed to back up AGW.

Michael Booth

Gordon The Chicken

Trevor the farmer was in the fertilised egg business. He had several hundred
young layers (hens), called 'pullets' and eight or ten roosters, to
fertilise the pullets' eggs.

Trevor kept records and any rooster that didn't perform went into the soup
pot and was replaced. That took an awful lot of his time so he bought a set
of tiny bells and attached them to his roosters. Each bell had a different tone so Trevor could tell from a distance, which
rooster was performing. Now he could sit on the porch and fill out an
efficiency report simply by listening to the 20 bells.

The farmer's favourite rooster was Gordon, and a very fine specimen he was
too, but on this particular morning Trevor noticed Gordon's bell hadn't rung
at all!

Trevor went to investigate.

The other roosters were chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing. The pullets,
hearing the roosters coming, would run for cover but to farmer Trevor's
amazement, Gordon had his bell in his beak, so it couldn't ring.

He'd sneak up on a pullet, do his job and walk on to the next one.

Trevor was so proud of Gordon, he entered him into the London Exhibition and
Gordon became an overnight sensation among the judges.

The Result?

The judges not only awarded Gordon the No Bell Piece Prize but they also
awarded him the Pulletsurprise as well.

Clearly Gordon was a politician in the making: Who else but a politician
could figure out how to win two of the most highly coveted awards on our
planet by being the best at sneaking up on the populace and screwing them
when they weren't paying attention.

Do you know a Politician called Gordon?

David Jennings

Reading left wing bloggers Is like reading the brief of a defense lawyer whose client is guilty. Although they don’t admit it in their writings you can see the giant gaping holes and absolute contradictions that are made.

So after reading several pieces of intelligent commentary and common sense at the likes of “Coffee House”, “Guido Fawkes”, and “Iain Dale’s Diary”; I wound up back at my favourite opinion stomping ground, the infamous lefty blog site www.liberalconspiracy.org .

Sunday's lead blogger “Unity” was in great form. The article in question is http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/22/how-to-commit-a-global-warming-fraud/ .
The article focuses on the hacking of global warming data from the University of East Anglia. The main point made in the beginning is that we must stop the data being published because if not presented in the right way it will not support global warming theory.

I don’t know who hacked this 61MB of data or why, although it seems to me that the said university probably does not have the corner on decisive information that would prove or disprove the theories concerning climate change. That being the case what is this blogger getting so worked up about.

So we have a couple of questions here! What did the hacked data actually reveal? Answer – Nothing of significance. Why do global warming alarmists fear data being revealed to the point that their spin machine kicks into action to debunk any conclusions that have, in fact, not yet been made>

The truth will set you free. We shouldn't fear true information. We shoudn't support hacking computer information. Truth can be inconvenient, it’s the one thing that Al Gore got right. But we should confront truth and deal with its realities.

Unity then writes the following - “There is no single definitive source of evidence that proves that AGW theory is correct, its only when you carefully piece together all the evidence that the global warming trends linked to human activity become evident.
Within that mass of evidence, however, there is data which, if taken out of context and in isolation from the rest, appears to contradict AGW theory.”

Carefully piece together all the evidence. The global warming theory is extremely delicate. A web of lies that has been in full production for almost 20 years. A theory that has to be constantly tweaked in order to fend off solid evidence to the contrary. This is why its supporters are so fearful of uncensored data coming to the surface. Because anything other than the carefully constructed party line will be exposed for what it is – fraudulent.

The days of global alarmism are numbered. Its supporters are flailing around for their final breath.

Frank P

Please see below a petition to keep the British Forces Post Office
from closing. This would mean that all free post (under 2kgs) to Afghanistan
would be stopped amongst other things. Below is a quote from Sky News
in bold.

"When the servicemen and women of our country are fighting and dying for this government's dubious honour, it treats them with the contempt it has shown across the board," he said.

"The BFPO has for decades provided a lifeline that is utterly vital in
maintaining morale and now they want to cut it.

"MPs have granted themselves £7,000 a year postage - but they seem to be happy to put extra costs on service families. How typical, how venal, how vile."

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SaveBFPO/

Please forward this on.

h/t furriskey.

Edward Sutherland

"..means of better communication". Then where's the debate about the Neather revelations which the Coffee House powers-that-be seem to have being doing their damndest to stifle. I really despair of any serious attempt by the supposedly Conservative-leaning members of the Westminster commentariat to hold this terrible government to account for the appalling immigration policy it has imposed on this country.

Haldane

Michael Booth

"Neathermore" very good, but will it prompt a response from the Editor?

You can Neather be certain, but don't hold your breath.

Nicholas

Well done Bishops - more please. Revolt at the PC crap is just reaching tipping point.

http://tinyurl.com/ybg9reu

And you can combine this and your feelings for Lost England by wearing a big red Cross of St George. My new dressing gown is like a Crusader's surcoat and with my tin-foil hat makes me look positively man-at-arms-ish. Ah, yes, the L'homme armé - Dufay - stirs my indigenous roots. Latin. Plainsong. Christian. English. Not to be messed with.

Seacole

Neather was so much denied to so many.

Rhoda Klapp

Nicholas. Pictures. please. The speccy will put them up here, or at least you'd do for an old Daily Express masthead.

Edward Sutherland

Michael Booth and Haldane: I've come to the conclusion that Fraser Nelson and the rest of his team, with the honourable exception of Melanie Phillips, just think we're "nutters banging on about Neather." They don't want to investigate an important matter that might make them look not quite acceptable to their Westminster village friends-you know, the sort that end up getting Spectator politician-of-the-year awards.

Anne Wotana Kaye

I'm reading Evelyn Waugh; some of his novels once again, and many, including his Diaries, for the first time. What a wonderful brain, and no wonder many of the British so-called -universities do their best to ignore his work. I'm reading, for the first time, "Work Suspended" and one line stands out. It is so 'now', so contemporary as to how many of us may feel. "I am a Dodo, and you son are a petrified egg."

oldtimer

The Global Warming debate got an airing today on the Daily Politics (courtesy of Mr Andrew Neill?). The protaginists were Professor Singer (a non believer in the evidence for man made warming) and DEFRA`s Chief Scientist (who does believe in it). The hacking of e-mails at the Climate Research Unit was discussed. I thought Singer was convincing. He studies satellite data (which covers the whole globe) not land based data (which produces skewed and often unreliable samples).

The most practical example I know of how global temperatures can vary is provided by the Franz Josef glacier on New Zealand`s South Island. There is a small chapel downstream from the glacier`s water runoff (the Waiho river). There is a large window above the altar. Back in the 1946 NZ produced a stamp showing the glacier visible through the window. Since then the glacier has retreated out of sight (1954), returned to view (1997) and is now out of sight again. Apparently these changes are caused by changes in snowfall levels. It seems to me that if global warming is indeed the scourge it is claimed to be, then the Franz Josef glacier should not be immune to its influence. Yet awkwardly for the warmism brigade, it oscillates back and forth regardless of their theories.

Linda Smith

Phillip, you asked “where is the debate on AGW going?”

From Nigel Lawson's article, - "Copenhagen will fail - and quite right too" in today’s Times:

"...Moreover, the scientific basis for global warming projections is now under scrutiny as never before. The principal source of these projections is produced by a small group of scientists at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), affiliated to the University of East Anglia.

Astonishingly, what appears, at least at first blush, to have emerged is that (a) the scientists have been manipulating the raw temperature figures to show a relentlessly rising global warming trend; (b) they have consistently refused outsiders access to the raw data; (c) the scientists have been trying to avoid freedom of information requests; and (d) they have been discussing ways to prevent papers by dissenting scientists being published in learned journals.

There may be a perfectly innocent explanation. But what is clear is that the integrity of the scientific evidence on which not merely the British Government, but other countries, too, through the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, claim to base far-reaching and hugely expensive policy decisions, has been called into question. And the reputation of British science has been seriously tarnished. A high-level independent inquiry must be set up without delay.

It is against all this background that I am announcing today the launch of a new high-powered all-party (and non-party) think-tank, the Global Warming Policy Foundation (www.thegwpf.org), which I hope may mark a turning-point in the political and public debate on the important issue of global warming policy. At the very least, open and reasoned debate on this issue cannot be anything but healthy. The absence of debate between political parties at the present time makes our contribution all the more necessary.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6927598.ece

In2minds

Climate change emails, compare and contrast. Bernie Madoff fiddles his figures and goes to prison. Professor Phil Jones of East Anglia University Department of Skullduggery fiddles his and gets away with it!

Wrinkled Weasel

Not sure whether to bother any more. My last two posts, one here and one on Martin Bright's have been spiked. Neither of them broke the rules.

Peter From Maidstone

I was looking into starting a website called Traitors Gate - www.traitorsgate.org. I was planning to make it a site where politicians and those spending our money and making decisions that affect us would be called to account and a record kept of those things they have done and which can be clearly documented that have damaged our national liberties and could be considered 'traitorous'.

There are two things holding me back. One is that it seems slightly wrong, as a Christian, to point out the faults of others - though I guess I am not wishing to make personal judgements about them but to criticise the actions they have taken. And secondly I would be concerned about becoming a target for dirty tricks by those listed on the site.

Does anyone have anmy thoughts? Is this sort of list already being done somewhere else?

Beer Moth

Frank P

The thing to do now is for families to send their loved squaddie a pair of socks and his Mars Bar, and two house bricks. Over 2kilos.

Simples.

Cuffleyburgers

Nicolas - mixed feelings about bishops exhorting people to wear christian symbols over christmas - to me it smacks too much of a reaction to the various controversies we have had lately about the wearing of religious symbols.

Whilst deploring the de-christianisation of christmas (wintermass, winterval etc pass the sick bag alice) I would prefer bishops to insist that christians, especially those with children, attend church at least once over christmas.

Be very wary, any obsession with religion in politics is always a bad thing. I can think of no counter example. Some might say the abolition on of slavery was a case where religion in politics was a good thing.

Although Wilberforce's strong religious beliefs are cited as motivating his campaign to abolish slavery, I would say that that may be so but the only reason it actually happened was the fundamental decency inculcated by enlightenment thinking.

We need less religion in public life and more decency and tolerance.

Would today's politicians have the guts and decency to do abolish slavery?

Answers on a postcard please!

Haldane

Edward Sutherland.

Do not despair. I'm sure the editor will respond in a timely fashion with an objective piece, demonstrating Neather fear nor favour.

Nicholas

Rhoda: nice idea but no way. You would all know who I really am then! Besides I don't have any chainmail.

Cuffleyburgers: I take your point but I think the traditional tolerance has been abused to the point where Christians are on the back foot so I can understand this. I still believe we are a Protestant Christian nation that tolerates the worship of all other religions. To me that is different to what the communists are trying to push - a secular society where all religions are equal but some are more equal than others (the 'I' word). Plus, I saw it as a healthy push back against the PC Brigade - they need their arses kicking - long overdue.

Hysteria

Beer Moth - brilliant!

Michael Booth

Edward Sutherland - well if that's the case I am proud to be a nutter

-though all I am doing is pointing out an unfulfulled promise that is of interest to a lot of people. You know, pursuing a line , like journalists did long, long ago in the days before politicians took them out to dinner.

Nicholas

How did the odious Brown manage to suborn the IMF? Was it the bung he gave them in April? They were at the CBI conference telling everyone how brilliant he is. New Labour and the communist bloc are really working overtime to manipulate public opinion.

John Richardson

Mr Frank P.

Sir,
You copy and forward to us details of a petition regarding Service Personnel and the Delivery of their post, free, to Afghanistan.
Fifteen years ago I would have been surprised. Ten years ago I still would have been annoyed.
Now I do not give a toss.
Sorry, but there it is. You relate that 'Sky' said the men were being treated with 'contempt'.
Some say that is only possible when people allow themselves to be treated with contempt.
Anyway, who isn't being 'treated with contempt' by this Government (Yeah, I know Society's dregs).
Arn't 'the Lads' over there fighting for our....er....our...erhm.
It's gone.
There comes a point when you just have to say;

" Those soldiers are not fighting for me. They are not fighting my enemies.
They are not defending my Country.
They have not defended democracy in this Country.
Not defended our borders."
I could go on but it is sad for any patriot.

Tell me I'm wrong, but I just do not care about their free post.
Sad.

St Bruno

I think I remember right, but can’t be too sure that I’m spot on. Little grey cells are getting slack on the memory front. During the Gulf War Mk2 the Royal Mail had a concessionary parcel rate from and to all BFPO addresses in the area. A box up to 10kg was only £10. I found it very welcome for nutty, CDs etc. Maybe some expert, who is in the area now could come up with some info. Could be the introduction just before Christmas would be a polite political thing to do. We also had the ‘bluies’. Today it would be emails and the internet.

Verity

Catch this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230310/The-old-capitalism-day-says-David-Camerons-philospher-king.html

Vulture, for you especially.

You are (quite rightly) repelled by David Cameron's hen's arse mouth. And I personally feel that no one who still has his baby teeth in his forties will ever make it into No 10.

But in this photo, which I kindly link to, David Cameron seems (seriously) only to have nine fingers. That is quite weird.

(Before we get uppity posts from others who were born with nine fingers or less, it's nothing personal.)

Frank P

The Guv'nor weighs in on Neather:

http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/2661/26/

Read it and eat your heart out Mr Nelson.

Patricia Shaw

You want suggestions on what to write?

How about an ever so slightly analytical look at Israeli settlements and Bibi's two fingered welcome to Obama?

Might such an inconvenient analysis conflict with your House Style, or is there still a vestige of real journalism left at the Home of Snide Spectator?

Vulture

@Verity: Goddamnit, you're absolutely right. This man Blond is truly dangerous.
Didn't Bliar also get his 'communitarian' ideas from some half-baked academic at an Australian University? The 'heir to Blair' apes his master yet again.

You only have to hear that that prize chump Oliver Leftwing endorses Blondie's 'Red Toryism' to know its an imbecilic idea.
Clever-clogs Leftwing was the fool who invited a burglar in to his house in the middle of the night to use his own bog.
It's asotnishing how frequently eggheads turn out to be deficient in common sense.

Blond's main idea seems to be to shove even more of other people's money at the undeserving poor. I'm sorry, real material poverty in Britain no longer exists. So-called 'poor' homes always manage to have
wide screen TVs. It's moral poverty that is our problem.

The fact that Dave even gives this asinine and unpleasant-looking man the time of day tells you all you need to know about him.

And don't you think its odd that we never see anything reported about Dave's real Svengali - the Hungarian exile 'Steve Hilton' these days? He makes Ali Campbell look like a nice helpful neighbour.

Am not qualified to comment on the nine fingers question. I only know that if Dave shook my hand I'd do a quick finger count just in case...

Patricia Shaw

Or here s another one.

Why is there an outcry about two Zionists being appointed to the Iraq Enquiry?

Could it be related to the Zionism that sits at the heart of the Neocon ideology, whose outlook featured so powerfully in the decision to neutralise Iraq?

Andy Carpark

Thank you for the Blond link, Verity. These pictures of Nick Cameron are gradually building up into an hilarious montage. In this article, he is holding an imaginary basket - containing perhaps the 'proceeds of growth'? - with his fingers splayed in bountiful sympathy.

Over on the main CH page, we see Nick in a more saturnine pose, holding his chin and shrouded in shadow, no doubt contemplating the challenges ahead. I have never overestimated the role of rationality and impartial calculation in voting decisions, which are more likely to be determined by baser and more visceral impulses, such as whether one would follow Dave Clegg into the jungle, want one's daughter to marry him, or have him as a son.

Little by little, Nick's clownish poses are working their magic at a subliminal level. When the dust has settled after Cameron fails to secure a working majority, pundits may look back on photos of him riding his bike in the Arctic or shaking his booty to the Arctic Monkeys [is this right?] and loftily claim they foresaw from the outset that Dave would be a walking disaster. Except that most of them didn't.

Verity

Thanks for the Steyn link, Frank P.

Did you read it, Fraser? Might give you some starting points for the post you have twice promised to write.

Wilhelm

Fraser Nelson , I think he is the editor of the Spectator said a few weeks back and I quote

'' Oh all right then, I WILL write about Neather gate, if I really, really have to.'' It was like pulling teeth.

So if Fraser is not going to, why did he tell a fib ?

Edward Sutherland

Frank P: many thanks indeed for the Steyn link. What a fantastic article re Neatherworld. Shame the Spectator can't come up with first class comment like that.

Frank P

Edward Sutherland

"Shame the Spectator can't come up with a first class comment like that."

Shame the Spectator can't come up with a first class journalist like that; particularly as he once plied his trade on these pages. Still we can make sure he keeps being read here, can't we? Shame he can't bill them for the copy. :-)

London Calling

The Chilcot inquiry will be the third enquiry to date on the Iraq. There will be no jury, even though there is evidence that Tony Blair lied and therefore Iraq was an illegal war based on false evidence. The Dutch meanwhile are conducting their own enquiry and are now going through the evidence of the Chilcot enquiry with legal representatives present, whereas we are not…Why Not? This is a shameful travesty of justice.

Iraq inquiry expert view: A question of legality

‘But what is most revealing about the Dutch inquiry is the comparison between its approach and the Chilcot inquiry. The Dutch inquiry is composed of a seven-member panel, including two of Europe's most senior judges and other figures who have expressed opposition to the war.
The Dutch inquiry, which will report its findings in January, could add further pressure to Chilcot to analyse the question of legality. Both the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats have said they are keenly awaiting the outcome.
"The idea that controversial British legal advice on Iraq may have swayed the view of the Dutch government will be painfully embarrassing for the government", said Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrats' foreign affairs spokesman'.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/23/iraq-inquiry-expert-view

Beer Moth

Frank P

Another here grateful for the Steyn link.

Verity

From Iain Dale's Diary:

"Baroness Ashton - Last week she was unknown in Britain.

"Today she is unknown all over Europe."

Jonathan Calder, Liberal England.

Nicholas

"So if Fraser is not going to, why did he tell a fib?"

A fib or a brownie?

Frank P

I note that Fraser posts far less on Coffee House; why do you think that is peepul?

EC

"A fib or a Brownie?"

No, Nicholas, it was a "half Nelson!"

Alexandrovich

Frank P: having reached the next stage of his career, he's spending more time at the BBC costume fitting department. It must be so addictive, this celebrity status.

EC

Frank P, "Shame he can't bill them for the copy. :-)"

Indeed, he's writer of some class. The trouble with most domestic commentators is that they can't (or won't!) see the wood for the trees.

Austin Barry

Chums, don't let's give up on Fraser just yet.

Any editor who permits Rod Liddle's "Muslim Savages Update" strap still has some residual cojones. I fear however that his enhanced hobnobbing with the political elite will ultimately result in his testicles disappearing along with the canapes at one of those Islington/Hampstead/Notting Hill soirees.

Come back wee Fraser, we hardly knew ye - and bring yon Neather beastie with ye.

Anne Wotana Kaye

The new State school decree: Children as young as five will be taught about domestic violence. In addition to sex education, multiculturalism, etc. when will there be time to teach them the 3 bloody Rs?

Nicholas

Anne, on the BBC Radio news this morning they actually referred to it as "social engineering". The modern nazis have brought politics into school as never before. Truly frightening, because as with everything they touch, the definition of "domestic violence" will be stretched and twisted to fit their preconceptions and prejudices. It will add to the existing environment of paranoia, emphasise the dark side of life, increase tension and add to their capacity to control, coerce and interfere.

And are these decrees being debated? It is increasingly feeling like East Germany here.

EC

Verity,

Daniel Pipes has compiled an album of photographs of the fashion statements worn by some high profile women representatives of the western world in their attempts to interact with the stone age:

http://tinyurl.com/yjdd3cv

Are these women guilty of betrayal?

If head covering is required in order to show "respect" for the natives, or satisfy a dhimmi agenda, then why scarves? If I were HMQ then I wouldn't be seen in anything less that one one my favourite crowns or, failing that, a Barbour hat. That'd show 'em!

Anne Wotana Kaye

Nicholas: As is nearly always usual, I agree completely with you. I just heard on the BBC News that the 'Violence' lessons will involve respecting others, doing no harm etc etc. How much simpler it would be if they restored Religious Instruction and Bible Study, given by teachers with a moral ethos and dedication, that unfortunately today is only for Stasi obedience to the Rule of the Left.

Michael Booth

Found this on someone's (lefty) blog in the comments section: says it all really.

"I'm a Labour supporter, but they still have to work to remove the discriminatory laws currently in place against adult children of unmarried British fathers. The party had their chance during these last two immigration bills, but chose not to.

Please allow children born to unmarried British fathers, the chance to get their British citizenship so they can vote Labour too. Currently, they are the *only* group of children not allowed to get citizenship from their British parents".

Cry, beloved country...

Michael Booth

I too heard the morning news about the requirment for schools to adopt (yet) another government strategy, this one for tackling the 'issue' of violence against women and girls. NB violence against men and boys is largely (but not soley) perpetrated by... men and boys, who therefore only have themsleves to blame. We should all recognise and applaud the stirling work done by Hattie Harperson and Mr Gonads on this one. Just what schools need - a little more social engineering...

Frank P

Michael Booth

"Mr Gonads?" Do you mean Mr Nojones?

Wily Trout

Anne, Nicholas, Michael Booth
The govt sincerely believes that it must 'intervene' early in the life of a child if it is to prevent that child turning into a menace to society. This now includes prescribing Ritalin for 3-year olds.

Frank P

A wonderful demolition of the AGW movement today on American Thinker, by their Consulting Editor:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/climate_fraud_and_the_environm.html

Extract:

>The Green argument concerning renewable energy is that it can easily provide adequate power with the added benefit of creating a "sustainable" economy. The most recent example appeared in the October edition of Scientific American in a piece by Mark Z. Jacobsen and Mark A. Delucchi titled "A Plan for a Sustainable Future: How to get all energy from wind, water and solar power by 2030". (A PDF version is available here.) The authors make the claim that America's energy needs can be provided for by:

490,000 I megawatt tidal turbines
5,350 100 megawatt geothermal plants
900 1300 megawatt hydroelectric dams
3,800,000 5 megawatt windmills
720,000 .75 megawatt wave converters
1,700,000,000 rooftop solar voltaic systems, 0.003 MW
49,000 300 megawatt solar thermal plants
40,000 300 megawatt photovoltaic power plants

This makes for an impressive picture. Unfortunately, it's almost completely empty. Writing in The American Spectator, William Tucker completely demolishes the argument in his customary thoroughgoing fashion. (Anyone dealing with detailed tech policy questions would do well to study how Tucker handles it.) Tucker points at that the amount of space required for the solar plants alone would be in excess of 450,000 square miles, "the size of Texas and California combined". As for rooftop systems, there very likely aren't 1.7 billion roofs on earth to set them up on. In any case, rooftops suitable for the job -- sturdy enough, large enough, and oriented to the south. Similarly, "We would live in a forest of 80-story windmills interrupted by rolling prairies of solar collectors. Every inch of coastline would be girdled with tidal generators while every square mile of ocean was dotted with wind and wave collectors. There would be no place on the planet not dedicated to gathering energy."<

Read it all, it anthropologically warms the cockles of your heart.

Frank P

This piece of footage also adds to the delicious demolition:

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/012722.html

h/t Gerard Vanderleun AND Mark Steyn.
[Why do our hosts never pick up these snippets of wisdom?]

Anne Wotana Kaye

Nicholas,Michael,Willy and Frank, as a young girl I read Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World", and now in my 'dotage' I am actually living in it. Ritalin for the children and tranquillisers for everyone else, and Brown is assured of continuing his regime.

EC

There is no such thing as "renewable energy."

EC

Frank P,

That's a truly cool kat.
pause
Nice!

Verity

Frank P – Be fair. Nelson’s the editor of a national weekly magazine! That is more than a full time job. There’s very little time for writing. But he shouldn’t have twice said he would write about Neathergate when 1) he was probably doubtful that he would have the time; and 2) really didn’t have anything to add because he doesn’t think it’s such a big deal.

Nicholas, agree. I have often read an item, over the last five years or so and thought, “Stazi.” This country needs a Grand Repeal Act, with every single piece of legislation nodded through by these vile, vile people – human rights abusers every one as they have slipped the human rights of every Brit out from under their feet, leaving them subjects of the junta. We need the Grand Repeal Act, that Cameron wouldn’t even understand, never mind execute, and we either need public investigations and prosecutions of the junta – Blair, Brown, Straw, Harman, Smith and others I’m too lazy, or queasy, to think of; or we need piano wire and lamp posts. Or we need The Rumanian Method. The latter being difficult, as Blair disarmed the entire nation.

Or we need the army back from Afghanistan and on the streets of Britain. HM has done nothing to protect us or our country.

AWK – I, too, have referred on these pages to Brave New World. I said we’re now out on the other side of 1984 and have entered Brave New World territory. For Ritalin, read Soma. Babies will be incubated in test tubes next. Mark my words. Oh, wait a minute ...

Frank P

Verity

"Be fair. Nelson’s the editor of a national weekly magazine! That is more than a full time job."

If life was fair, someone else would be the editor.

Anne Wotana Kaye

Verity: Yes you did previously mention "Brave New World". Frightening. By the way, "Ape and Essence" has a horrible approach to women, rather like some aspects of today.

Michael Booth

Now it seems we are preparing to welcome Zimbabwe back into the Commonwealth. Well, that Mugabe-chappy, awfully nice when you get to know him personally, don't ya know. All this reported stuff about human rights abuse and persecuting white farmers? Exaggerations dear boy... Mustn't let things like that get in the way of trade now, must we? And anyway, those farmers were white, after all...

Beer Moth

That Martin Lewis is right: ALL BANKS ARE THE ENEMY

Verity

Frank P - Oh, meeOWWWWW!

Patricia Shaw

Nice One Gove.

The Spectator's very own Zionist Zealot puts his foot in his mouth and embarasses Cameron and the party because his bigotry will always come before his country.

Now we know.

Maximilian

@Anne Wotana Kaye

In case you haven't already read it, don't miss Helena, said to have been Waugh's own favourite among his novels. It's very short, too short really, a fictionalized biography of Constantine's mother, St Helena.

Nicholas

Comrade Patricia, "Zionist Zealot" is racist and unacceptable. Report for re-education at once.

Comrade Blog-Monitor Nicolai

Anne Wotana Kaye

Maximilian: Thanks. I am going to try and get it on one of my trawlings through the bookstores. Great fun!
Patricia Shaw: Felt sure I saw your face above an article here entitled "A Charisma Free Zone" about Baroness Shaw. Being objective, I am sure it is all the fault of the Zionists. Or are you really so vile?

Anne Wotana Kaye

Sorry, the name was Lady Ashton, not Shaw, THEY are at it again!

A. MacAulay

Beer Moth: The 2 bricks are to help get the camels to drink? Right?

And Vulture, there are still poor people in Sweden, would you believe it? I've caught a number of lefties on the back foot with that one.

Frank P

A MacAuley

Mind your thumbs!

Nicholas

Uh-oh. Going to have to give QT a wide berth tonight. Edinburgh which means an audience stuffed full of communists and/or bolshy Scots. Opinionated Leftie comedian Marcus Brigstoke with the weirdly shaped head who is not the slightest bit funny and who I detest beyond belief. Ken Clarke, Tory big beast who tends to crash through the woods haphazardly, trumpeting and roaring in all directions, including to the right.

Anyone with the slightest admiration for the party of Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher and/or who loathes trendy Leftie comedians will need to look away.

Derek

Those interested in the management of the Spectator Subscription Department, which appears to consist of outsourcing the responsibility to Sittingbourne and then forgetting about it, may like to hear the good news and the bad news.

The good news is that I received a copy of the magazine yesterday,26th November, and was in that way made a happy man.

The bad news is that the record of issues delivered since July is now:

1st August

17th and 24th October (together, so a sop)

14th November.

Is there a pattern forming? May I hope to receive every third issue now...?

Anne Wotana Kaye

Is it possible that The Great Leader will be bailing out Dubai's failing businesses and banks at the expense of the UK taxpayers? Of course, he may just administer a "sticking plaster" sending Lord Mandy to offer comfort in their hour of need.

Maximilian

@ Patricia Shaw (yesterday at 12:15 am)

Presumably your "zionist zealot" remark had to do with the government providing funds to a school which is indoctrinating young children in the fascist ideology of a subversive Islamist group, Hizb ut-Tahrir. If you care to examine the issue more closely (the link below would be a good place to start) I think you will find that the accusations made by Cameron and Gove are substantially correct. Their only mistake was to name the Preventing Violent Extremism (PVE) Pathfinder Fund as the source of the government money rather than a different Pathfinder fund.

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/11/26/ht-membership-%e2%80%93-to-be-or-not-to-be/

Lucy Jones

Anyone interested in Neather's revelations might also be interested in a piece in today's Mail.

(extract)
"Countless red dots scattered across the world map on the wall of a NHS hospital reveal the story of the changing face of Britain.
Each dot denotes the background of a mother with a baby in the neonatal ward of London's Chelsea and Westminster hospital. The map was put up by hospital administrators to 'celebrate the ethnic diversity' of the sick children treated there, each at a cost of £1,400 a day.
It shows dramatically how the NHS now treats patients from every corner of the globe.
The 243 mothers are from 72 different nations. They include Mongolia, the remotest regions of Russia, Japan, Africa, South America, swathes of Asia, Australasia and even Papua New Guinea.
Only 18 mothers said they were from Britain. "

Here

Anne Wotana Kaye

Lucy Jones: Hi, Lucy
So now I know why when I watch BBC 6 o'clock News, the London News at 6:30 has interviews with mainly ethnic people. Some are very charming, nice people, but I wonder where all the white UK citizens have gone? Also, Lucy, please tell me how you produce RED print that can appear on this blog. Thanks

Anne Wotana Kaye

Didn't want to write anymore, but just learned that the hacker has been refused the right to remain here (his borth country) and must be deported to the USA. Foolish fellow he should have worn a nightgown, had a hook for a hand and poked one of his eyes out. Hamsa remains here to this day. Damn this government to high hell!

Lucy Jones

Hi!

To include an embedded link (in red!), you need a bit of HTML code.

I don't know if I can get just the code to display, without it tuning into a link, but here goes:

"Example"

Remove the outer inverted commas. Put the web address you want to link to in place of example.com, and the text for the user to click on where it says Example.

Hope this helps.

Anne Wotana Kaye

Many thanks Lucy,
Will try it out later.
Have a gopd weekend!

David Ossitt

As is our custom my wife and I listened to the BBC television news program whilst we enjoyed our evening meal.

At the half way stage the news went regional and we were both gobsmacked to hear that totally useless woman Rosie Winterton MP, who is the Minister for Yorkshire, rabbiting on about the Leeds City Region.

The television screen then showed a vast area of Yorkshire that we were told was now the Leeds City Region.

We were incandescent with rage; Leeds is already in West Yorkshire or as we prefer to think in the West Riding of Yorkshire.
What was this all about?

I googled and found the following.

Please take note of the gobbledygook that follows the list.

Leeds City Region comprises the 10 local authority districts:
„X Barnsley
„X Bradford
„X Calderdale
„X Craven
„X Harrogate
„X Kirklees
„X Leeds
„X Selby
„X Wakefield
„X York

which reflects the true area of how the economy of Leeds and the other cities, towns and rural areas in the city region functions.

For example, 95% of people who live in the city region also work in the city region.

Whoever wrote this crap should be tarred and feathered, the first sentence (which reflects the true etc) is pure jargon but the second, what crap, what he/she is trying to do is to state the bleeding obvious, that 95% of the people who live and work, work in the region but this retard this cretin thinks that over 95% of the population actually work.

Regions ban them to hell.

Verity

David Ossitt - There is nothing as stupid as a socialist. Some of them have dull animal cunning - for example Jack Straw, Tony Blair, Jack Straw, Ed Balls, etc., but socialists are not clever people.

The reason they have been able to take over the UK is because people let them. They wouldn't have stood a chance if voters had militated against all their programmes.

Wilhelm

'' Regions ban them to hell.''

Tell us what you really think, son.

egh

Oh, David Ossitt - that is a huge region!! Totally unmanageable for even an efficient Council (or County Borough); but with that lot running it how absolutely impossible!! And where does it place dear Barnsley, Calderdale, Harrogate, and even Wakefield - in relation to the foreign masses who occupy Leeds and Bradford, [and I guess, Dewsbury]??

I do a fair bit of reflection about it all in the Anglo-Saxon/ Celtic context. The present day reality is such a horrible contrast!!

EC

Barnsley is already part of Thurgoland!

EC

In the Sunday Times today...

Dave Cameron as you've never seen him before! Man Of The People(II) gets an "official portrait." Hooray!

http://tinyurl.com/yzujzhl

Anne Wotana Kaye

Does anybody wonder why, or even care, that this government is ready to deport Garry McKinnon, 43, who has Asperger's syndrome, yet allows that vile Hamsa (Hookhand) cur to remain here in the UK, leeching off the taxpayers? Shows where Nu Labour's sympathies and interests lie.

Frank P

EC

DC's portrait: the eyes of arrogant privilege set in a blank page of inexperience. Let's hope that he learns on-the-job and both features adapt appropriately as the enormity of the task of inheriting the scorched earth remnants of our sovereignty strikes home. Only time will tell.

Frank P

Another great article on the CRU and AGW from J R Dunn on American Thinker blog:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/global_warming_fraud_and_the_f.html

and yesterday I posted a link to Mark Steyn's latest contribution on the subject on a dead-end thread on CH tagged "Nudging us to go green" by James F.

Both the Dunn & Steyn pieces put to shame the Speccie and our MSM generally.

Maximilian

EC, thanks for the Cameron portrait. Where did he sit for it, do you know? At home? In his office? Wherever it was, that wall behind him hasn't been cleaned since Disraeli's day, if not earlier.

The face is good, though.

Verity

Frank P - "DC's portrait: the eyes of arrogant privilege set in a blank page of inexperience."

Perfect!

Verity

AWK - Well, Hookhand Hamas has Islamic Syndrome.

Wilhelm

Garry McKinnon should have converted to islam then liebour wouldnt have deported him to America.

Im being deadly serious.

Anne Wotana Kaye

Verity: the whole damn lot of towelheads have got it!

Austin Barry

Congratulations to the Swiss. Just think if we had mandatory referenda on foot of 100,000 signatures.

egh

Austin Barry - seconded. Btw: I love that poster they used.

I note how our eu-ized mouthpieces - er media - quote everyone who opposes the result: especially the u-no-whos. Nothing much about how the Swiss feel: except for their vote!!

So I say it here. All Hail to the Swiss!! A Beacon on High, A Light in the Darkness.

We ought to hold a demonstration in support of their stand for Freedom. But, unlike them, we're gutless, and mindless, and totally intimidated: aren't we?

Anne Wotana Kaye

Auston Barry - Thirded!

Anne Wotana Kaye

Has anybody else noticed how like Goering Ed Balls is becoming? All he needs is the lipstick and jackboots!