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Wednesday, 16th December 2009

PMQs live blog

Peter Hoskin 11:45am

It's snowing in Westminster; Gordon Brown's off saving the world; and PMQs will see Harman facing off against Hague and Cable.  Stay tuned for live coverage from 1200.

1200: Have MPs gone on holiday already?  There are plenty of empty seats in the chamber...

1202: Here's Harman now.  Condolences for fallen soldiers, first, and then a status update on Brown in Copenhagen.  I imagine we'll hear more about the Danish summit today...

1203:
Harman says that she hopes a settlement is soon reached in BA negotiations.

1204: Plant 'o the Day: Labour MP Judy Mallber hints that the Tories' allegiances in Europe will impact their ability to tackle climate change.

1204: And the bigging up of Brown begins.  Harman says that he's at the "centre of events" - and contrasts him with the "shadow Foreign Secretary, so can't get his party's MPs to believe in climate change".  Hm - bit of a weird dig at Hague.

1205: Here's Hague now to fight back.

1206: Hague's first question is a slightly long-winded one about the climate change fund, asking whether it will be viable.  You can see what he's trying to achieve: undermining Brown's actions in Copenhagen.  But it doesn't quite hit home.

1208: Oh dear, this is unedifying stuff.  Harman has just flung the term "climate change deniers" in the Tories' direction.

1208: Hague asks if Britain can help further the Middle East peace process if Israeli politicians are threatened with arrest if they come to Britain.

1210: Harman: "My colleague David Miliband is working to..." etc, etc, etc.  This is low-key stuff so far.

1211: Another change of topic from Hague.  Now he's talking about Iran, "possibly the biggest threat to world peace in 2010."  What would the government do?  Again, Harman refer to her collegaues and waffles about the UN.

1212: Oh, there's the bombshell which Harman had prepared.  She says "today's the day that we've seen the number of benefit claimants fall ... I'd have though today would be the day the Tories got it wrong."  So the government's "green shoots strategy" is rearing its head again.  Will it connect with those people who are still feeling the effects of one of the worst recessions in British history?

1214: Cable now.  He leads off with a point about tax evasion.  Harman uses it as an opportunity to have a dig at the Tories.  She says that the government will bring forward legislation to make sure there can't be non-doms in Parliament.

1215: Harman: "no representation without taxation".

1217: Oh dear, Labour MPs will not be happy.  Harman was getitng into her stride over non-doms and had just started: "Has Lord Ashcroft....?"  But John Bercow cut her off, and said that she needn't continue with that line of questioning.  Good on him.  Although the Tories could still do to clear up the Ashcroft situation, PMQs is not the forum for it.

1220: Backbench questions.  Harman responds to the first with a lot of Brownite copy-book stuff about not reducing "investment" now.

1221: Another plant about an "inheritance tax cut for millionaires".  It's suddenly turned super-political, this PMQs.

1223:
Questions about MPs' pay and transport.  Labour MPs seem to be enjoying themselves.

1223: Mark Francois raises the issue of homeless ex-servicemen.

1224: Harman: "We are legislating to put knife crime on a level with guncrime."

1225: Harman has some party political praise for the government's Building Schools for the Future.  "We have not pulled the plug on investment in construction."

1226: Anne MacIntosh asks an odd question, meant to be funny: "What is [Harman's] favourite fairy tale?"  Harman responds by saying that we'd get the "Brothers Grimm" were the Tories elected.  Tragic.

1231: Harman does a good line in unspecific answers...

1231: Nigel Evans says the PM should call a general election.  Harman: "I don't think that turkey is going to fly."

1233: Harman on the government's "help for small businesses".

1234: And that's it.  Verdict coming up.

VERDICT: An odd PMQs, which will leave Harriet Harman happier than any of the other participants.  None of Hague's questions really connected, which left Harman able to bat them away with dull generalisations or Labour crowd-pleasing quips.  It all threatened to spill over into fireworks when the issue of non-doms came up, but John Bercow put a stop to Harman banging on about Lord Ashcroft.  All in all, today will have done nothing to deflate the upswing in Labour morale over recent weeks, but nor will it have them soaring into the Christmas break.  It didn't really amount to much.

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Kevyn Bodman

December 16th, 2009 12:06pm Report this comment

I assume you are joking;either that or you are off message.
It cannot be snowing in Westminster;we are suffering from global warming which must be dealt with by raising taxes.
Do try to keep up.

DavidDP

December 16th, 2009 12:09pm Report this comment

"Harman says that he's at the "centre of events" -"

Yeah. I wonder why the opposition aren't at a Government level conference.

FFS.

DavidDP

December 16th, 2009 12:18pm Report this comment

"It cannot be snowing in Westminster;we are suffering from global warming "

I suppose it wouldn't help to point out that the latter does not preclude the former?

No?

Thought not.

Patricia Shaw

December 16th, 2009 12:23pm Report this comment

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to replace you with a radio?

Peter From Maidstone

December 16th, 2009 12:23pm Report this comment

If it's turned super-political why are the Conservatives not ready? Why has Hague not crushed this woman?

Peter From Maidstone

December 16th, 2009 12:36pm Report this comment

Is that the end of the coverage? At 12:26?

THX1138

December 16th, 2009 12:36pm Report this comment

PMQs sponsored by the Germans, what is the world coming to!

MisterE

December 16th, 2009 12:39pm Report this comment

Harman: "I don't think that turkey is going to fly."

Did he walk to Copenhagen then?

Rory the Deplorable

December 16th, 2009 12:47pm Report this comment

This looks like a Tory drubbing two weeks on the bounce - what's going on? Have the Cameroons forgotten how brutally ruthless the Brownite machine is. As Sir Liam might say 'we're all doomed!'

wrinkled weasel

December 16th, 2009 12:52pm Report this comment

"It didn't really amount to much"

Were you being ironic? There is more commitment to justice, truth and the British way in the X Factor than there is in Parliament.

Olaf

December 16th, 2009 12:53pm Report this comment

@Kevyn : It's not Global Warming anymore dear boy, it's Climate Change.

With CC we can be taxed for 'green' issues no matter what the temperature is.

Might as well call them 'weather taxes'.

Big Al

December 16th, 2009 12:53pm Report this comment

Presume number of jobless claimants fell as they have completed their 6 months of benefits. The increase in unenemployment figures are the key here.

Peter From Maidstone

December 16th, 2009 12:55pm Report this comment

If the Conservatives don't win then they lose! Labour just need to keep plugging away at the Conservative Party and their support will continue to fade. Hague should have wiped the floor with this political creature. That he did not means that the Conservatives have lost big time.

Tankus

December 16th, 2009 1:33pm Report this comment

pathetic

Michael Booth

December 16th, 2009 1:39pm Report this comment

Agree with Peter from Maidstone - if Hague can't wipe the floor with the Harpy then there is no hope! Brown's made sure he's at the centre of events by arriving early in Copehagen and then announcing more billions for Africa (if anyone has been watching Gerry Robinson's documentaries on Care Homes for the Elderly I would suggest there's a better investment for Taxpayers' money, i.e. helping the very people who worked all their lives and paid their taxes) OK sorry, it is a hobby horse and I need to get off it.

Marcher Baron

December 16th, 2009 1:59pm Report this comment

A fall in benefit claimants? On the day when it's reported that the level of youth unemployment has never been higher? Green shoots? More like fiddling the figures.

JONNY

December 16th, 2009 3:07pm Report this comment

It won't swing at the very best 5 votes in 5 million.
So why are you bothering even to mention it?
Hague clearly agrees.

Verity

December 16th, 2009 3:07pm Report this comment

Could the little morons who write "Thought not" with a triumphant flourish, as though they were delivering a witty coup de grāce, please stop it? Surely there is a blog called Trite Postings, or similar, where you would feel more at home?

JohnAnt

December 16th, 2009 4:02pm Report this comment

I'm wondering about this casual 'Have MPs gone on holiday already?'
I mean, do they simply decide on a whim whether to bother to turn up in the House? Have they any instructions from Party or Speaker, any code of behaviour, anyone to whom they must justify their salaries by listing their work and hours for the day?
If they feel like bu**ering off early, does anyone point out, 'Oh I say, you simply mustn't, there's work to be done?' Do their voters get any feedback about their performance?
In short, do they have any idea what working life is like for the rest of us?

Michael Booth

December 16th, 2009 5:01pm Report this comment

"Do their voters get any feedback about their performance?
In short, do they have any idea what working life is like for the rest of us?"

No and no. Our function is to pay taxes.

TrevorsDen

December 16th, 2009 5:10pm Report this comment

life must be miserable min Maidstone.

'political' PMQs?
Thats the point innit
PMQs are pointless. Brown and Harman just lie and the 'procedures' of the House do not permit anyone to be called a liar.

Peter From Maidstone

December 16th, 2009 5:58pm Report this comment

TrevorsDen, you have nothing to say, but you do insist on keeping on saying it!

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