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Sunday, 14th February 2010

Tories put the decimal point in the wrong place

James Forsyth 10:11pm

The Tories are facing embarrassment tonight after a document they released claim that 54 percent of young women under 18 in poor areas get pregnant when the actual number is 5.4 percent. It is easy to see how a mistake like this is made but it is still damaging and made more so by the fact that it gives Labour the opportunity to claim, as they are doing tonight, that the mistake shows that the Tories have no idea how the country actually lives.

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Grenville

February 14th, 2010 11:19pm Report this comment

This is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time!

toco

February 15th, 2010 12:00am Report this comment

So if they had placed the decimal point a further place to the right it would suggest 540% of girls of this age become pregnant.James you should try and get a non virtual life.

tim

February 15th, 2010 12:03am Report this comment

Is this why Cameron is busing students in to his speeches in poor areas, he thinks the audience would otherwise be pregnant and wouldn't fit in the seats provided?

Richard

February 15th, 2010 12:09am Report this comment

semms that if you vote Cameron you get the Marx brothers as well for a cabinet....oh dear.

John

February 15th, 2010 12:12am Report this comment

Yawn. So what?

Paul Danon

February 15th, 2010 12:40am Report this comment

The decimal place, eh? Shome mishtake, shurely.

Paul Danon

February 15th, 2010 12:41am Report this comment

It is an immutable law of nature that all articles about mistakes will, themselves, contain a msitake.

Verity

February 15th, 2010 1:55am Report this comment

"It is easy to see how a mistake like this is made".

No. It's not.

Derek

February 15th, 2010 2:50am Report this comment

Yes, and in the text of Mr. Cameron's speech in Scotland,linked in Mr. Nelson's blog a couple of days ago,there is a reference to "the straightjacket of the euro". I imagine this as a zoot suit, or should that be "Zut!"?

Sally Chatterjee

February 15th, 2010 7:31am Report this comment

Surely all press releases get vetted? A researcher should know their facts, the shadow minister should vet the release and then a PR handler should review the paper. If all three of these people can't spot the mistake then it suggests people aren't doing their job properly.

On the other hand, opposition parties do not have the luxury of the civil service to mine data for them.

Charles

February 15th, 2010 8:59am Report this comment

Typos happen. They shouldn't in an ideal world, but life isn't and can't be perfect. Accepting that fact is one of the basic premises of being a conservative.

Horshamite

February 15th, 2010 9:10am Report this comment

The key point here is not the mistake - they happen - but that nobody seems to have applied simple common sense before using it. In the real world everybody gives "facts" a reality check before using them. If the leading Tories demonstrate such incompetence there must be doubt about their fitness to run the country.

Yam Yam

February 15th, 2010 9:19am Report this comment

What with all those zeroes on the end, it's easier still to get the national debt wrong. But, hey, what's ten million quid here or there.

Chris lancashire

February 15th, 2010 9:21am Report this comment

If Labour are clinging on to misplaced decimal points they really are desperate.

Richard Blogger

February 15th, 2010 9:33am Report this comment

Sure mistakes happen, but the fact that this figure was released shows how little Mr Cameron thinks about us. He actually thinks that we are that bad. He has no compassion for his common man/woman if he did not think: "this cannot be right".

Nick

February 15th, 2010 10:17am Report this comment

The document also claimed that 19% of teenage women in the ten most affluent areas of the country also got pregnant.

This is also wrong by a factor of ten. SO evidently another typo.

The central premise though is that the teen pregnancy rate is still three times higher in poor compared to rich areas.

TGF UKIP

February 15th, 2010 11:44am Report this comment

I'm sure Tiberius will be even more understanding of the Cameron Tories' cock-ups than usual - if that's possible of course.

Mac Walker

February 15th, 2010 12:04pm Report this comment

As this is such a glaring mistake, the fact that it was not picked up right away confirms Brown's comments on "the Tories not being in touch with the people". They had better get in touch PDQ.

Tom

February 15th, 2010 12:13pm Report this comment

This adds to the Grayling data-fudging technique which wilfully misuse data for political reasons. Missing a decimal point is stupid, what Grayling did was far worse.

Piers Fallowcherry

February 15th, 2010 12:16pm Report this comment

A small but essential general point: numerical literacy is just as important as the, um, wordy kind. Editor Nelson understands this well.
It does seem that too many people can spot an impertinent apostrophe from 50 yards yet are oblivious to a rogue number in a column.
This mistake would have been spotted by anyone with a head for figures (as distinct from being able to toss off a stat in blink of an eye).

John Smith

February 15th, 2010 12:29pm Report this comment

Running out of news stories. How about writing on the great success of the big push in Afghanistan. 12 dead - sorry only civilians - oh it was a mistake !!!

EyeSee

February 15th, 2010 1:13pm Report this comment

Of course Labour would spot the mistake straight away. If it had really been 54% they would have hit one of their targets.

Anne Wotana Kaye 1

February 15th, 2010 5:16pm Report this comment

So it's not just Oiks that make little mistakes!

Verity

February 15th, 2010 6:10pm Report this comment

Dave's a pr man. Surely he wouldn't let an annual report, or a press release on earnings, go out without several proofreaders and several fact checkers having gone through it with a fine tooth comb.

The reason it's rare to see spelling or actual factual errors in newspapers and magazines is because they have sub-editors and proof readers. There is no excuse for this mistake other than a total lack of respect for the target audience, who the Tories clearly think will believe anything.

wolfi

February 15th, 2010 7:38pm Report this comment

Even in the USA the correspondingfigure of unwanted pregnancie is only about 7 % - there is a satire on it in the Onion

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