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Saturday, 27th February 2010

The Tories deploy their strongest weapon, the prospect of five more years of Gordon Brown

James Forsyth 6:25pm

If you had a fiver for every time a Tory speaker today has said ‘five more years of Gordon Brown’ you would soon be rich enough to start worrying about the 50p tax rate. All the speakers in the economy debate stressed how the country ‘cannot afford five more years of Gordon Brown.’

George Osborne talked about how the Tories had to win three battles---the battles over the past, the present and the future.  Ken Clarke, who looked like he has taken to visiting Boris Johnson’s barber, was charged both with boosting George Osborne and emphasising that ‘Brown played a major role in making this crisis worse than it needed to be.’ Clarke is the perfect person to deliver this message. He has the experience and the reputation for straight-talking that you need to make this message sound like more than just opposition politician criticises the Prime Minister.  Clarke also had a rather good mischief-making section urging Darling to produce the Budget he wants and dare Brown to sack him.

Overall, the Tory message on the economy was sharper today than it has been in a while. Osborne used the fact that people are worse off now than they were five years ago particularly effectively in his speech. But there is still something irritating about the Tory position on Labour’s plan to increase the tax on jobs. Ken Clarke called it ‘the worst possible choice for an increase in government revenues.’ I think he’s right about this which is why it so infuriating that the Tories will only commit to trying to ‘avoid or mitigate’ it. If it is the worst possible way to increase government revenue, they should scrap it. 

 

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Nash

February 27th, 2010 6:41pm Report this comment

They need to re-label Labour's employer NI contribution as "payroll tax" - a tax on jobs. In fact they should re-label any part of the NI contributions that are not needed for retirement, disability or death benefits as "payroll tax" so we all clear at knowing what it is.

Ken

February 27th, 2010 6:42pm Report this comment

So where is the poster, the Youtube viral vid, twitter campaign and face book group showing deranged, twisted-face Brown above a one liner: "Five more years of this?".
Instead they failed miserably with airbrushed Cameron.
They don't really want to win that is clear.
(Can't blame them, the demented one's legacy is a 1000-year repair job.)

Colin

February 27th, 2010 6:44pm Report this comment

We all know why we should be voting against Gordon Brown and his regime.

How about the tories give us some reasons to actually vote for them?

teledu

February 27th, 2010 6:50pm Report this comment

Spot on Colin. Let's hear something about Immigration, creeping Islamic threat, the EU, the English democratic deficit etc.

John Richardson

February 27th, 2010 6:59pm Report this comment

What about the idea of Five More Years of David Cameron ?
I thought the MSM had realised that Mr Cameron is not an asset to the Conservative campaign.
Perhaps not.

If, after all these years, the best the Conservatives can manage is to point to the inadequate Brown, then they have already lost the next General Election.

The real problem is that Cameron's Conservatives are an exercise in organised treachery.
They cannot mention the mass immigration program as they support it.
They cannot mention the fact that we are now ruled from abroad as they are fully complicit.
They cannot draw attention to the CO2 lie and the massive transfer of jobs & wealth abroad AGW policies cause because they support the lie.
The Cameron cliche calculated that they could abuse Conservatives & their values whilst still expecting them to provide their votes. This was stupid.
They have been rumbled.
Politics is about to move on from the pathetic Party Political duopoly.
Thank goodness.

Alex

February 27th, 2010 7:03pm Report this comment

"Let's hear something about Immigration, creeping Islamic threat, the EU, the English democratic deficit etc." ... teledu - go back to Labourlist, your comments are so transparent

JONNY

February 27th, 2010 7:07pm Report this comment

Perfect. I love it.
We have Ken up there crying for the Total Brown Demolition Job.
Amd then there goes Colin saying we all know that but where's the positive?
And teledu agreeing with him.
And me agreeing with Ken.
Make up yours my friends. Which is it to be? Because in the real world you can't do both.

JONNY

February 27th, 2010 7:22pm Report this comment

'What about the idea of Five More Years of David Cameron ?'

Your best idea yet John Richardson.

Ex-Tory voter

February 27th, 2010 7:37pm Report this comment

I don't want 5 more years of Gordon Brown, but I don't want to replace him with Blair-lite.

Tarquin Superbus

February 27th, 2010 8:54pm Report this comment

Is anyone else sick of whenever the Tory strategic position is mentioned by a CH contributor, about five people jump on to complain about the liberal conspiracy between immigrants, Labour, the BBC, senior tories and the EU? Does it not get tiring to anyone else?

TGF UKIP

February 27th, 2010 9:28pm Report this comment

All v well to ask who wants five more years of Brown, James, but your problem is that Colin,Ken Teledu and John Richardson are bang on. The sad situation for you is that the opinion polls make abundantly clear there is precious little appetite for five years of Dave.

The other problem you've got is that if Brown is so bad where are the Tory attack dogs ripping him to pieces.

As I asked on a previous post, if they are this crap at opposition, just think how much worse they'd be in government.

Poor, poor Britannia.

Colin

February 27th, 2010 9:44pm Report this comment

In my view, all the downsides to Brown have already been "priced in", in relation to how people regard him. Nothing he can say or do now, will cause anyone to change their view of him. That's why the tories should be really worried.

I sat through an interesting presentation the other day about what lies behind the current tory election strategy. I have to say, that, like many other people in the room, I was left with the following impressions:

1. That, in terms of policy, it was all a little too subtle for ordinary people outside the political industry to appreciate.

2. Either, by accident or design, they seem to be taking for granted the support of those who voted for them in 2001 & 2005.

3. They're not yet prepared to tell us the whole, unvarnished truth about the potential for economic armageddon.

As I've written here before, either they give the electorate some compelling, positive reasons for voting for them, or we may take a better the devil you know approach.

2trueblue

February 27th, 2010 10:28pm Report this comment

Anyone awake? Thought not. What do you want? Another decade of Liebore, because that is what is coming if you can't get it. Lets keep our eyes on the ball. For 13yrs we have had Liebore, and at the heart of that government we have had Blair/Brown/Balls/Campbell/Mandy/Whelan/McBride/Mandy again/Millies 1 and 2, and Milliband, just to name a few. Not all elected you note.

Liebore have wrecked the country,

the BBC are Liebores machine,

the media in general are on Liebores side

we have a greater number of children living in poverty than when Liebore came to power

our literacy rate is lower since they came to power

we have a more divided society

our pensions have been decimated

our culture has been wrecked and diluted

our freedoms have been curtailed massively

we are less prepared than any other major player to face the financial crisis

postal voting is just the start of what Liebore can do to interfere with democracy

Liebore are fantastic at spinning, talking about initiatives, non-delivery, skuldugery, and generally pinching other peoples ideas. They are also fantastic at destroying other peoples reputations and shifting the focus away from their numerous failures.

I am willing to see what the alternatives are. The media line is not to look atthe results, what we already have and what they have done is unacceptable. The media prefers to spin it that the Tories will be no good at any of it and spread negativity to blind people to the fact that Cameron never said he was perfect. He has made some idiotic mistakes but he is not the sum total of what the Tories have to offer. It is great sport to keep the public uninformed about what Liebore has done and we do have a poorly informed electorate. That is not the fault of the Tories.

I have read a variety of newspapers over the years and the stunning thing is that anyone who goes up against this current government has had their reputations and lives totally destroyed. Think especially of David Kelly.

I will vote for the only party that can deliver the end of this current government, to do otherwise is too much of gamble.

Frank P

February 28th, 2010 11:04am Report this comment

2trueblue

"I will vote for the only party that can deliver the end of this current government, to do otherwise is too much of gamble."

You'll do that?? Even if the party of which you speak has not even a scintilla of 'true blue' conservatism spread among its entire nepotistic 'hierarchy'? Re-labelling the same poisonous package of welfarism and Eurocentric, Islam appeasing, policies will make no difference to the accelerating decline of Britain in general and England in particular.

Mass abstention would be preferable to that.

Our Monarch and her advisers have betrayed us. She should have ordered the dissolution of Parliament and insisted on a General Election immediately after the collapse of the banks and the full extent of Brown's madness and deceit had become obvious to the public at large (as opposed to the handful of punters on this blog and the Daily Ablution blog before it who have been screaming it for the past seven years or so).

It is no overstatement to aver that HM QEII and her corrupt and odious Parliament have loaded this septic island on to a effluence barge and launched it from Barking Creek in the direction of Brussels to fertilise the internationalist socialist agenda. And the Captain is pissed on his own importance and propaganda.

Can someone reassure me that Daniel Hannan has the wherewithal and means to rise like Phoenix from the flames after the impasse that will result from the next election. Did anyone manage to get to Brighton yesterday and witness the sowing of the seeds of a velvet revolution? I can't find a sqeak about it in today's media coverage (or non coverage perhaps)?

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