The no notes speech does the trick for Cameron again

John David Barnett

It will have reassured all but the most inveterate sceptics.

Colin

"The no notes speech does the trick for Cameron again"

What? For who?

If you happen to be a member of the political industry - (tory division), then maybe. As for the rest of us...

We still know that brown is an incompetent, sociopathic tw*t.

We still know that the economy is busted.

We still know that we're over taxed.

We still know that demographic make up of our country is being changed beyond recognition.

We still know that our sovereignty is being ceded to the EU.

We still know that our armed forces are treated with contempt by new labour.

We still know that the state is far too big and intrusive.

We still know that parliament is disgraced and broken.

We still know etc. etc.

But, we have no f*cking idea what exactly Dave and his chums will do about it...

Publius

"a speech without notes"

Haven't you said this now in about 3 different posts?

As for Labour finding nothing to criticise, is that supposed to be a good thing or a bad thing?

John

Hopefully, the Labour trolls have signed off by now; their employer can't afford extra hours at double-time.
If the Shadow Cabinet colleagues were anxious, did you see the terrified look on Samantha's face?
She needn't have worried. Dave was excellent.

Frank Leader

Brown stumbles and stutters when reading a speech. His complete lack of spontaneity is appalling. He is just a Bully who throws his toys out of the Pram. He cries when no one picks them up.

Dennis Churchill

A speech? How many voters will listen or take any notice of a speech? It is the political class talking to the media class.
The electorate are not interested or impressed by speeches with or without notes.

Frank P

'Frank Leader'

That's a thin sobriquet and worse than 'Call me Dave' Mr Cameron. It's also dishonest as you are not frank at all. The whole tenor of your campaign has been, even according to your hack propagandists' based on subterfuge. If they are lying and you really are the real deal, then you are a f****g socialist.

Whichever - you'll lose the election, or rather it will be a hung parliament by default.

EC

Cameron said it all apart from "Go back to your constituencies and prepare for opposition."

John David Barnett, It may have reassured all but the the most inveterate Dave disciples like you but there was little joy for traditional Tories and very probably most of the rest of the electorate wasn't watching.

After that speech, Bruin could do no worse than to take a trip up to Buck House tomorrow and call the election. Now is his best chance. There has to be a break in the weather by March 25th!

Frank P

PS. We already knew what Brown is and is not before your speech. What we still don't know is what you are likely to be in the unlikely even of getting the key to No.10 on 7th May. But we suspect that it would not be good.

denis cooper

Jesus wept.

So Cameron can give a speech without notes.

Invite him to join the Royal Shakespeare Company, put him on the stage with a skull in his hand, and let him get on with it.

But don't assume that his thespian talents qualify him to become Prime Minister, any more than Blair.

Jack R

Few notes, little content.

Dave B

James, did Cameron speak without notes? I don't think you've mentioned it.

strapworld

I missed the speech. I along with Mrs Strap took the grandchildren to Shrewsbury to a performance of Peter and the Wolf. The narrator was Brian Blessed. What a voice, What passion quite, quite brilliant.

I came home and watch a replay of Cameron.

Sorry Mr Blackburn they should have hired Brian Blessed he would have had everyone throughout the country supporting the tories.

There are deliveries and deliveries. Mr Blessed certainly delivered. Cameron simply dithered.

Nothing about immigration! Nothing about the Eu. Might as well give up hope now!

TomTom

A Speech is where you use words and cadence to sway a hostile audience. Very few politicians can do that, most talk to their own as the read a prepared script from teleprompter or rehearsed.

Michael Foot could give speeches, Enoch Powell....but without a classical education most politicians simply talk to their prepared audience, they have no oratory to sway hostile crowds

Doppelganger

He does not need notes because he has nothing worth to say.

toco

Excellent speech.The problem for Labour and the alarmingly erratic Gordon Brown is that even with the likes of Damian McBride,Charlie Whelan,Derek Draper and Alistair Campbell spinning for their pathetic positions Brown is totally incapable of coming across as someone with whom you would shake hands without subsequently counting your fingers.

TrevorsDen

The hysterical anti Cameron brigade are I am afraid beyond parody and beyond belief - literally, I do not think they are real.

The plain fact is that no one can satisfy a right wing nut job loony tune; no one with a chance of getting elected.

And theres the rub - only one way to remove Brown's gerrymandered government is to vote conservative. There can be no complacent whinging about policies to remove the debt, halt economic migrants, law and order, blah blah blah.

The tories have got policies a plenty, more than adequate for that - they are Conservatives (!) for christ sake - what more do the nut-jopbs want?

Oh I forgot another 5 years of Brown ....

CG

If Brown wins the election, it will be due to the Tory ideological purists, who want to turn the clock back to Thatcher, the likes of that idiot Heffer and co.

Gawain

Frank P. You have been boring us all day with what you are against. What are you for ? If you can't answer that question the only assumption that can be made is that you are one of Mandelson and Campbell's paid lickspittles.

Cameron made a very good speech today and for the first time sounded and looked like a potential Prime Minister of this country

strapworld

Trevors Den,(Eric Pickles) Did you go to the same charm school as Gordon Brown?

Tony Gee

Erm - are you from planet Zog? Cameron is the Devon Loch of politics.

Holly ......

Last night and again today,trolls have been all over the place.
Ex Tories,'always voted Conservative...but',
'I was going to vote for him...but..'.
They have made up nearly all comments.
Now,if the 'poll' was correct,why would the troll army be deployed?

For those of you commenting on DC speaking without notes,the only people banging on about it are the bloody media...AGAIN!
The next few weeks should be enlightening as DC & GO lay out Brown's record & tear it apart, piece by piece.
Also,just as an after thought,who is Browns right hand man?
Ed Balls.....So who is wheeled out first?
Mrs Ed Cooper Balls.
In order of panic..Cooper-Mandelson-Balls-
Byrne-Bradshaw.
Lib Dems..Huhne-Cable-Clegg.

Beer Moth

John

I think that many of those posting here, who you refer to as 'Labour trolls', are more likely in fact to be long term Conservatives who have quite suddenly found themselves to be politically homeless.

They would never vote red, but find that their traditional party has now turned that paler shade of the same hue.

Edward Sutherland

A good post, James. My goodness me, aren't there a lot of anti-Cameron comments this evening-I guess it's part of the Labour strategy to try and depress Tories. Cameron made an excellent speech that will reassure fluttering Tory nerves. He reacts so well to pressure, which bodes well for his role as our future prime minister. He's never going to satisfy all Conservatives, but then all political parties represent coalitions of interests.

Moraymint

If any of our dumbed-down citizens ever needed a reason for not ever, ever, ever voting for the Brown-led dolts that have been running this country for the past couple of years, they should check out Wat Tyler over at Burning Our Money:

http://tinyurl.com/yzgv2fq

The fact is that there has not been a more catastrophically hopeless and destructive a Prime Minister since the Second World War as our very own unelected, unwanted, utterly incompetent Prime Minister Gordon "No More Boom-n-Bust, I've Saved the World" Brown.

Brown has brought this nation to its knees. He has extended the gap between rich and poor. He has robbed us blind. In short, Brown has made each and every one of us poorer. In so doing, he has set up our society for misery and strife in the coming years.

Brown is nothing less than a traitor. Political historians please note, and get researching and writing now. It's vital that Brown goes down as absolutely the worst Prime Minister and politician in modern British history.

It is vital that we not only remove Brown from power, but also that we destroy him and his reputation. The man has been an ocean-going disaster for this fine nation of ours.

PS That's my (ex-)military mind coming to the fore. Rant ends.

Verity

I saw over on one of the correspondence columns of The Telegraph's excellent blog pages, that Cameron is - this is unbelievable - being advised by Obama advisor American Marxist Anita Dunn.

For information about Ms Dunn, see the excellent Michelle Malkin here:

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/15/anita-dunn-a-corruptocrat-flack-and-a-mao-cheerleader/

This is unbelievable!

AAE

I know it's picky of me to ask about details, but could James tell me if David Cameron's Conservatives do become our next government, will there be a greater or lesser chance of thousands dying needlessly in distress and degradation in Dave's beloved NHS, and will charges of corporate manslaughter be made against the culpable rather than the £400,000.00 pay-offs currently preferred? And will a father taking a photo of his son still be at risk of arrest and detention by a security guard, while a gang rapist in my neighbourhood walks free on police bail? Will there still be a staff of 800 in the Ministry of Defence press dept.? And on and on. We know the answers. And whilst the staff of The Spectator appear to be relieved and ecstatic by Mr Memory's virtuoso turn, some of us will have noticed how he uses code words like radical to send a reassuring signal to the Left, there is no hidden message to those who would not only like our personal freedoms returned, but, not being any less compassionate than Dave, would like to see those incarcerated in the socialist slums of sink estates by the poverty of their socialist education, maintained by socialist pocket money, rescued from the inevitable hell of that total socialism.
A Vote for Cameron doesn't yet look like a Vote for Change.

EC

"I say, I say, I say, my leader's got no notes!"
"How does he sell?"

"TERRIBLE!"

Verity

Moraymint - Brown is not only a traitor, but it's now come out that they've got militant jihadis within the Labour Party and, I believe, the government. This has been obvious to the rest of us for some time. I think I read it in The Telegraph, but I'm not sure.

THX1138

Moraymaint Throws Insults at 35% of the voters and calls the PM a "Traitor", are you sure? What a load of tosh & hyperbole! No wonder people think that blog commentors are nuts.

And Dave's "patriotic duty" line is going to bite him on the arse too. What am I un-patriotic if I decide to vote Labour? That's certainly the inference and it's bang out of order..

As for "unelected" It seems increasingly likely that you can add Dave name to that list and Take Gordon's name of it.

Edward Sutherland

EC:
One thing's crystal clear: he's not "yourleader"

Baldwin

I agree with TrevorsDen.

Stop belly-aching you right wingers. Do your duty, vote Conservative and concentrate on ejecting this incompetent malignant Labour government.

2trueblue

AAE, I think you are on the wrong blog. All these things happened under Liebore headed up by Brown/Blair. For 13yrs they diminished our liberties massively month by month. We have had our pensions wrecked........ hell if you had listened Cameron gave you the list. Brown/Liebore have spent all this time building their empire and dragging this country down: more children now living in poverty, greater class divide,........

Whenever there was more of whatever under Liebore you can bet it was something that we did not want/need more of...... laws, cameras, fines, taxes, advisers, quangos, advisers, spin doctors, management consultants. All of these cost us more money and they produce very little of value.
Liebore have given us postal voting that has become unsafe and now at the eleventh hour think that we should have AV. Now who do you think that will benefit?

Should Liebore get in again we may not have a democracy.

But why worry, listen to the nutters who think that you would be better served by attacking Cameron rather than look at what the change could do for us. 13yrs of deceit, non delivery, curtailing our liberties, lies and no vote on the EU constitution. Oh forgot they called it the Lisbon treaty so that was ok.

2trueblue

Tom Tom, buy yourself a dictionary.

2trueblue

Verity, that must have cheered you up. You see he's not all bad then?

welease woger

Strapworld complaining about a lack of charm? You couldn't make it up.

JONNY

Advised by Obama Marxist Anita Dunn
is he now?
You've lost me Verity

SUSAN HILL

Beer Moth Absolutely spot on. I have no idea what a troll is, other than in children's stories, but you're right - Traditional conservatives who have now nowhere to go. Oh, and not necessarily 'hang 'em and flog 'em' with blue rinses, I would not want to do a or b and my hair is its own colour.

Archie

Can we please have mention of David Cameron's speech on Coffee House sometime soon?

Archie

I agree Verity. Incredible, but it explains much, does it not?

strapworld

welease woger. I think you should have a new eyetest. You really are becoming tiresome. Read Trevors Den insulting comments, then re-read what I wrote and you may well understand it then!

As for charm. I know I have plenty. I have certificates to prove it!

Dimoto

Trevors Den:
Haven't you twigged yet, that there just aren't that many "right-wing nut-jobs" or UKIPers out there ?
Iain Dale crows that the Tories have many more netizens than Labour. That's as maybe, but all comment columns on all blogs are just stuffed with Labour dirty-tricks trolls.

What puzzles me is, we are told that Tory coffers are brimming whilst Labour is bankrupt. Just who at Central Office is responsible for hoarding all this cash for the crazy 3.5 week sprint of the election campaign ?
Some of this money needs to be spent NOW, because the Tory case is certainly NOT REACHING THE ELECTORATE !!

Simone

TrevorsDen:
"The plain fact is that no one can satisfy a right wing nut job loony tune; no one with a chance of getting elected"

If you mean traditional Tories, then there were plenty more of those on board a few months back. So I disagree - yes, it is possible to please a greater cross-section of people.
Anyway, there's still time to do that. There's still everything to play for.

Tim W

I think that all the Conservatives should do now is hammer home the 6 pledges and keep asking the question about Change under the Conservatives v Five More Years...

How often when a Labour cabinet minister is being interviewed do you NOT hear the line, "The Tories would wreck the recovery, while we will continue to support our economy by giving help to..blah blah."? Never. Its very boring for people who watch the news etc. but at least it gets through to the voters. We need to do the same and we have the better message. Massive discipline and performances from all of the Shadow Cabinet are needed in the media from now on. Also why not use the better media performers like Grant Shapps and Jeremy Hunt a bit more often unlike Pickles, Spelman etc.

Dean

"Sheena's party - there's a case in point
That right-wing hooey sure stunk up the joint
He's gone - he walks through the old routines
But he's gone - guaranteed
He may be sittin' in the kitchen, but he's
Steppin' out with the Jack of Speed"

Archie

Jihadis in New Labour. "Lord" Ahmed in the Lords, Another several sticks to beat Brown with, and Cameron is doing what exactly?

EC

Edward Sutherland,

What do I gain from voting out the Raj of Scottish Marxists only to replace them with a europhile PR man and his gang of botom feeding old Etonians and clapped out Thatcher wets?

Interesting times ahead folks!

General Zod

Tom Tom, Cameron went to a school called Eton College. He was there in the early 1980s. He could not have avoided a classical education if he wanted to. I suspect you like the sound of the idea, but have not been closer to one than watching "Clash of the Titans".

JJS

"But, we have no f*cking idea what exactly Dave and his chums will do about it..."

And neither does Dave !!!!!!

Percy

@JONNY

Don't worry about most of this lot, they seem to be a bunch of BNP/UKIP ultras who for some reason are looking forward to moaning and 5 more years of Brown.

welease woger

Strapworld:

"I think you should have a new eyetest. You really are becoming tiresome."

Thanks for making my case. No self-awareness whatsoever.

Grumpy Optimist

I have just posted this on my blog. It is my take on what Cameron needs to do to win. And for all our doubts about him he sure as hell is better than Brown. I have not heard or read anyone saying exactly this and I would like you James or you Fraser to try to get these thoughts out there amongst the people who will decide Tory election policy over the next couple of months. This is it.

What we are witnessing in the polls over the past two months is a slow and steady turning off by much of the electorate when Cameron talks of change and being radical. This is not the United States and Cameron is not Obama. We here have had too much change (and for the worse) and so called radical change at that - and where has it got us? And what exactly does radical mean to most people. It is a nominalisation - which is a word that means different things to different people and people just do not hear it when Cameron speaks it.

Cameron's speech without notes today was good for the faithful and I for one liked it quite a lot. But Cameron was not directing this speech to me and it will fall like a lead balloon with the great unwashed and undecided. To get back these people (most of whom know pretty well that Brown and Labour stink) is some understanding that Brown will make things worse in the future. That you haven't seen anything yet. And when they get that and only when they get that, begin to tell them that the Conservatives have a better way

Brown has to be challenged for his Plan B. What will he do when we find that there is no recovery that means anything - neither this year nor next? What will he do when the pound resumes it's decline, our credit rating is downgraded and interest rates have to rise? What will Brown do when capital and entrepreneurs begin to leave this country in large numbers, tax revenues continue to spiral downward and the budget deficit rises to 16% of National Income? What will he do when his promised but completely hidden deficit reduction plan goes the same way as every other one of his promises? Will he start to cut then? Or delay cutting until 2012 or 2013 or or when? And as the architect of our bloated bureaucracy, can he really be trusted to know how to cut in a way that can preserve front line services rather than preserve jobs for his friends and his union paymasters?

So take him at his word. Do not go on about his track record. We all know all we wish to know and have made up our minds. But really push him about what he would do when things really go belly up?

Somehow or other the focus has to be put back on Brown and away from Cameron and in a way that the voters are quite clearly wishing it to be.

2trueblue

Dimoto, couldn't agree with you more. The media have spent far too long giving Liebore unstinting support that we hear little positive on Cameron and the Tories. The BBC are bought and paid for, with OUR money, and there is very little real journalism out there to report the facts. Brown/Liebore have wrecked the UK and have had such an easy ride. I really do not understand it.

Frank P

Dim Otto

"Some of this money needs to be spent NOW, because the Tory case is certainly NOT REACHING THE ELECTORATE !!"

Who is propagating a Tory case, FFS? Certainly not the Cameroons! Their spiel is as Gramscian as it can get.

Hardly surprising when, according to the Daily Telegraph (and Verity) Anita Dunn, an Obama apparatchik, is one of Cameron's advisor's. She is a Saul Alinski student and firmly abreast of Rule for Revolutionaries. One of her favourite philosophers is Mao. Cameron's speech today was riddled with Alinski buzz words.

When are you Cameroon adorers going to wake up and smell the whiff of the hopey-changey-thang for what is - pinko bullshit!.

FMOBB! There really is no hope for this benighted Royal Throne of Kings.

Go to Melanie’s latest post; as usual she gets it! Unlike her dim counterparts at OQS.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5806936/blue-obamalite.thtml#comments

Major Plonquer

David Cameron is VERY good at giving a speech without notes.

He is also very good at giving a speech without mentioning the EU.

Or immigration.

Possibly he will become a very good speaking coach after failing to beat big bully bottler Brown?

Verity

This is change-over time for Coffee House, so it's not feasible to post there, so please forgive the intrusion, but ... Alexander died on 20 February and it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the British press?

Major Plonquer

I object to being told it's my "duty" to vote Tory. I thought the way it worked it was for the party to convince me to vote for it and not for me to blindly put an X on a piece of paper the way lefties do.

I'll be perfectly happy to vote for the Tory Party. I just can't find one.

Richard Smith

He doesn't need notes because he never actually said anything.

Andrew S

The narrowing of the opinion polls brings sharply into focus the reality that any vote for UKIP risks delivering Brown and his lunatic henchmen another five year term (and perhaps many more if they can manage to manipulate the voting system). I am no fan of the EU, but to risk this outcome simply to lodge a protest vote about Cameron’s failure to hold a referendum would be madness. You reap what you sow.

Fergus Pickering

Who is this foreign arsehole Gramsci, of whom far too many of you speak far too often? Did he govern somewwhere. Did he DO anything of note? Enlighten me. Or perhaps don't bother. I am a conservative person. Ideology bores me, bores me, bores me. I like things to go on the same as they were, not five minutes ago, but the way I remember them. Isn't that what conservative means? Conserving, don't you know.

TomTom

Just read Cameron's speech on Telegraph site. It is just a series of platitudes with pseudo-folksy hot-buttons. Awful. Really not coherent.

It does not matter which minority government forms after the GE. The IMF will deal with either option as the bond markets force Britain into retrenchment.

Healey did a savage job of cutting public spending in his 4 budgets a year in 1976-78, no doubt the IMF will instruct them again.

Vulture

It's incredibly significant that NONE of the Camerloons posting here have referred to the actual content of Dave's speech.

That's because there wasn't any. He's as empty as a wet paper bag.

OK, relax; we traditional Tories who live in dodgy seats are going to vote 'Conservative' to get rid of Bruin.

But that's the only reason for doing so.
A potential Prime Minister who cannot bring himself to mention the two burning issues that are the only ones worth mentioning apart from the economy - viz.
the takeover of this country by an unelected foreign body, the EU; and the ethnic cleansing of its indiginous population by Islamic peasants is not worth listening to and will be a deep disappointment in the unlikely event of him being elected.

As Colin said at the top of these comments: "We still have no f*cking idea what Dave and his chums are going to do about" the crises we face. And what is really terrifying is that neither has he.

strapworld

welease woger. I admit I am slow on the uptake. But yet another guise for our dear critic Trevors Den!!

No self awareness! What a totally ridiculous statement. One made by a rather silly individual whose comments are only attempts at criticism of others comments. Absolutely no original thought or idea's of his/her own. Quite sad.

How can anyone be taken in by the events of yesterday. Starting with the Sunday Times poll, which miraculously changed from one edition to the other -with the same methodology- and the story dominated the airwaves. "Can Cameron make the speech of his life?". And then, political commentators,those fickle people who think they are the ones who can manipulate the people one way or the other, This is politics reduced to a reality show. Big Brother becomes political. This is the modern Conservative Party cynically run by people treating us all as unthinking idiots and there are some, on this blog, who are sucked into it!

Bring on the clowns! WW. TD. EP!

stephen

Oh dear! I do so hope you positive posters are right for the sake of the country! but I am not yet convinced the Tories are anywhere near winning the economic arguments. What happens in a week when Osborne gives his Mais speech the Tory lead collapses to 2% maybe its a rogue poll but!
Mandy called Boy George the weakest link and with his leading on the Economy and running the Election Campaign I have a nighmare of seeing Brown grinning on the steps on No 10 soon!
The Tory party used to a ruthless winning machine not one obsessed with Bunny hugging and gesture poltics. Oh for the days of the old men of the Carlton Club who could give Dave a pep talk!

eeyore

Tories don't seem to have the knack of putting the enemy on the defensive, despite ample illustration from Labour of how it's to be done. You make a big round statement that's almost a lie, force them to deny it, then ignore the denial and keep repeating the accusation. It's surprising that these public schoolboys don't know how to fight rough - they certainly used to when I worked alongside them a generation ago. Perhaps public schools aren't what they once were.

Peter From Maidstone

Andrew S, it is not just about the EU. The Conservative Party does not seem to stand for anything much that could be considered Conservative. Can YOU name any major policy which represents Conservative thinking? If the Conservatives are not actually Conservative then why should any Conservative vote for them? Simply because they are not Labour? But if they are just another version of Labour then we should surely not vote for them.

Chingford Man

TrevorsDen (Chairman Pickles?)

How’s that hopey, changey stuff working out for ya’?

welease woger

Okay Strapworld perhaps a lack of self-awareness was the wrong call, unashamed hypocrisy would be more like it.

I and excellent posters like Trevor's Den are constantly putting forward positive reasons to vote Conservative. Usually this is met only with the same old personal diatribes against others often couched in the most abusive terms. You of course then proceed to get all prickly when someone like Trevor plays you at your own game.

There is very little discussion of the points of these blogs because every one is met with the usual repetitive personal attacks on anyone who is not a paid up member of the Enoch Powell/ Margaret Thatcher fan club. A non-stop stream of anti-Tory propaganda from the Conservatives who don't vote Conservative.

At least Vulture and Verity post with some humour and appear to be able to take it as well as give it but I'm afraid I find your unrelenting arrogance insufferable.

I shall be ignoring your worthless contributions from now on and as the feeling is clearly mutual I suggest you do the same.

Ghengis

Pardon me, but I saw David Cameron making his entire speech, he was standing on a raised platform behind a desk, between sentences for the whole of the speech he looked downwards at the top of the desk which was out of sight to watchers. What makes you certain that there were no notes upon the desktop?.

Simone

Welease Woger:
"...a non-stop stream of anti-Tory propaganda from the Conservatives who don't vote Conservative."

Personally, I would love to vote Conservative again, and I only add my voice to the criticism because I'm hoping that someone somewhere in the Conservative party will listen occasionally.

I read David Cameron's speech and I liked some of it and hated some of it.
For instance, I liked the parts about education; I hated the identity politics.

I think the identity politics are a big mistake. Ethnic minorities would be keen to vote Tory if the policies interested them
eg. Tony Blair used to bang on about "education, education, education".
That appeals more to those immigrant groups who value education than token gestures of
a promised seat at the top table of the Conservative Party.

welease woger

Simone, that is an entirely reasonable position. There are parts of Cameron's programme I don't agree with either but this has always been the case with any leader.

I do think it is important at this point for the right of the party to acknowledge that in the interests of a Conservative victory it is time to concentrate 100% on a positive message for the election. The Conservative party will continue to evolve and adapt as it always has and there will still be a chance for all shades of conservative opinion to have a say and influence policy. We have tried core conservatism unsuccessfully for three elections. We have a chance now, let's grab it.

Ghengis

You just don't get it do you?. The electorate have already decided, they are angry with Westminster, every thing it stands for, the "parties" are generally seen as "toxic" with the leaders who have done little but play lip service instead of cleansing their parties of miscreants. Had one of these leaders acted in the interest of the electorate and cleared his party of flippers regardless rank etc he would have gained the full support of the voters. As it remains so does the voters anger and disappointment, Nothing has quite upset as much as seeing the westminster tribe carrying on from day to day nas if nothing had occurred.

Catosays

I'll give Cameron six months after the election whether he wins or not.

Then he'll be out on his bum and rightly so.

He's no more a Conservative than Joe Stalin was a Czar.

John Mackie

I'd MUCH prefer a speech read FROM notes, thanks. At least we'd know the 'conservative' principals were 'carved in stone' so to speak - rather than made up on the fly to appease some focus-group polling. Cameroon is way to the left of any previous conservative leader ever.

Furthermore,WHY is that all about DC? Have we constitutionally decided to become a presidency as opposed to a parliamentary democracy?

I GIVE up on this country. I really do.

UKIP is the only logical vote to make for me. It will at least be a patriotic vote for my conscience, the only way to end up a moral winner in this fcuking LibLabCon 'democratic' charade.

John Richardson

'Vulture' 1-03-10

I am honestly surprised that you are going to vote Conservative.
This is because I regard you as a sound thinker and honest contributor (this is not a snide inverted insult).
Everyone is familiar with the many well rehearsed arguments both for
(couldn't be worse than Lab.)
and against
(they are not actually Conservatives, they have hijacked the Party ).

I would admit readily that if Cameron transformed into a right wing politician after the election; then my analysis and my vote (UKIP) has been potentially disastrous.

Would you concede that if he does not; then you, and his other (reluctant) supporters have effectively given electoral support to the final destruction of democratic, self governing Britain ?
I do not mean that to sound hostile but that seems to be the choice before us.

I'd be interested in your answer.
Reg.s

John Richardson

'Vulture' 1-03-10

I am honestly surprised that you are going to vote Conservative.
This is because I regard you as a sound thinker and honest contributor (this is not a snide inverted insult).
Everyone is familiar with the many well rehearsed arguments both for
(couldn't be worse than Lab.)
and against
(they are not actually Conservatives, they have hijacked the Party ).

I would admit readily that if Cameron transformed into a right wing politician after the election; then my analysis and my vote (UKIP) has been potentially disastrous.

Would you concede that if he does not; then you, and his other (reluctant) supporters have effectively given electoral support to the final destruction of democratic, self governing Britain ?
I do not mean that to sound hostile but that seems to be the choice before us.

I'd be interested in your answer.
Reg.s

Verity

Jonny 9:57 says, in relation to Cameron's American Marxist advisor, "You've lost me, Verity."

I posted a link on the post that lost you, so if you are able to click on it, the story will come up. Dave's taking campaign advice from a noted Marxist.

Verity

Of course he was reading from notes! I didn't even see the speech, but I know instinctively that this man's a cheat. And he's being advised by one of Obama's dyed-in-the-wool Marxist advisers. A putative Conservative prime minister! Why would anyone have watched his speech?

Verity

Cato - What do you mean? What do you think will happen if he wins that will limit him to six months?

Pramston

HAving spent some hours this afternoon listening to various BBC programmes demolishing the Conservatives I have come to realise that a hung parliament is probably the best that people of a conservative view can hope for in the forth coming election. We are in one party state territory here, Cameron can't win whatever he does, every minor draw back is portrayed as a disaster and every hiccup as a scandal Compare this to the treatment that Labour get and you realise how corrupted our state broadcaster has become, if the Tories are lucky enough to win they will not be allowed to rule and I think the game is up for the right now, even among themselves they fight like cat and dog, evidence of that is all around these posts. We are about to wake up to the nightmare of Brown's smug grinning face on the dawn after an election and frankly we deserve all than we are going to get.

George Steiner

I wager a fiver that your political pigmy will loose the election.

michael

DC doesn't have to say anything.

The pound says it all.

After a baker's dz a half baked GB is still up for cooking the books.

John Law

Not a bad speech, but in the next few weeks he has to dump the spin doctors and in old fashioned political campaigning just set about the job of demolishing Brown and the Labour wreckers, plenty of ammo, see Moraymint 8.29.

It is unfortunate for us Eurosceptics, but it looks like; if we don't vote for Cameron, we will get LIb/Lab and we will all be shopping with Euros in 3 years time, if we have any money at all.

John Law

Verity
February 28th, 2010 8:56pm

"Moraymint - Brown is not only a traitor, but it's now come out that they've got militant jihadis within the Labour Party and, I believe, the government. This has been obvious to the rest of us for some time. I think I read it in The Telegraph, but I'm not sure".

It's true but not a problem Verity, I think you will find they are pretty main stream Labour people.

Al

So many here with their fingers in their ears.
I have read my Tory PPCs interviews and leaflets and I honestly cannot find anything that does not sound like our Labour incumbent.
I want; small government, sound money, localism, local taxes, freedom of choice, freedom within the local education and health systems. Local police accountable to ME not whitehall.
There are very few Con PPC who shout about these things and little sign at the top.
LibLabCon = all the same.

Herbert Thornton

Fergus Pickering -

There's a description of Gramsci here - http://reds.linefeed.org/bios/gramsci.html

So, in answer to the question whether Gramsci governed somewhere or did anything of note, I think he's best described as being very similar to Karl Marx.

Marx never governed anywhere but certainly did something of note, in the sense that he wrote Das Kapital. Gramsci was - and continues to be - influential in a similarly disastrous way.

2trueblue

Welease woger. No one agrees totally what Cameron says, but I totally disagree with what Brown says, hence I shall vote for the Tories. You are right we have to grab the opportunity.

Fail to see that Verity has a sense of humour. Mostly her comments are saved to insult Cameron, whilst missing the point that the head is simply that, not the whole entity. To be continually negative about one main aspect of the Tory party is hardly counts as humor.