The Tory front five

Think This

Do you really know for sure that Cameron wont bring Davis back? I've been hoping he would be re-installed after the election. I know him and DC don't get on, but he is really much better than Grayling and it would be better from DC's view to keep your enemies where you can see them.

Richard

No George!
Oh dear! Don't expect to see too much of Vague either. Under no circumstances expect to see Shameron on Newsnight.
Liam Fox is the sacrificial lamb, due to his rather large expenses issue - he may not even get back in at all.
David Davis must be furiously chewing on his bindings by now.
Raunsley quote today - If you stand down wind from a senior tory you can small the sweat of fear! Guardian.

Tim W

Grayling was asked about this on Boulton's show this morning. He laughed it off and rightly pointed out that the fact he was on the TV at the time showed he couldn't be that hidden. I've never rated him as much of an attack dog anyway.

Grant Shapps seems to be on Sky News all the time anyway doing things like newspaper reviews. In my opinion he is very good and as both photogenic and politically and culturally astute he should be given lots of prominence along with Jeremy Hunt.

Ken Clarke doesn't look like he's trying very hard but I'll forgive him for his age - he's done enough over the years!

Hague and Gove are good intelligent members of the top team.

Osborne should stay in his office running the campaign. He is not good on telly and is probably quite good at running a campaign - better than he is at his treasury brief.

Liam Fox is great in my opinion and was good on Marr. But I don't rate Caroline Spelman nor Theresa May (although she has a good 'work rate')
BTW I admit I am too much of a media junkie!

Austin Barry

They should add Rory Stewart to show the quality of prospective candidates. He has considerable, helpfully scruffy and affable, charisma, and his cv is remarkable.

Trouble is he went to Eton and no doubt the Labour heavy mob would assert this fact as futher evidence of an Old Etonian conspiracy to run the country for a toff elite.

Noa Zrk

Overall a fair to middling choice of NewCon policies.
No surprise for me than Osborne is shielded from to much public scrutiny. A knowledge of public finance based on a read of "Economic for Dummies" isn't going to hold out under BBC Markist interrogations.

As for Chris Grayling, a man of independent mind, he's out of favour with DC for thinking naughty thoughts. After all there's no need to show a difference to Lab/Con policies if there is no difference. Let Alan Johnson continue represent the Tory view on Immigration and crime. We, like him, need not loose any sleep over such trivia.

John Hodges

Why do you think that stupid headline in the Mail On Sunday is worthy of a comment The word "might " is the giveaway eg. "Pigs might fly". It was a complete rubbish of news space.

Richard Manns

Nurse, "Richard" hasn't taken his pills!

But seriously, the question of whether Davis returns is a major issue: to return him will show that Cameron tolerates loud gestures at the top of the pile, to leave him on the backbenches without an equal for Home Secretary questions Cameron's will to allow independent thought.

One to watch?

annassasin

Did anyone see the shadow DEFRA man interviewed by Andrew Neil on news24 last night, very cool, calm, pleasant, unflapable. One to watch, shame I can't remember his name.

Verityred

'Richard'. Your infantile name calling and repetative drivel would disgrace the walls of public toilets everywhere.

Have you no shame or self respect? Obviously not, just a bargain basement propaganda monkey. How sad.

Vulture

Rick-head:
God, do they make you work Sundays too?
You would do far better to brush up on your spelling, if you have nothing better to do.

Didn't Mr Testicles teach you literacy in the remedial class? It's the 'smell of fear' not 'small of fear'. Smell of fear is what I sniff each time you approach the HM's study for your weekly beating.

strapworld

What a shambles. So near an election and they have no idea who will say what on what!

Well what can you expect when you have a man who has no idea of leadership. Who sacks some for expenses but keeps his pals within his inner cabal.

What Cameron has got to do is eat some humble pie. Walk around to Lord Tebbit's house in Westminster, Take a bunch of flowers for Lady Tebbit and apologise to Lord tebbit and ASK for advice and LISTEN!

Then he should eat a little more humble pie and call on Michael Howard and Malcolm Raffkind and ask them for advice and LISTEN.

He should then call on Baroness Thatcher and seek her advice and LISTEN.

Then call in John Redwood/ Richard Littlejohn/ Jon Gaunt/Trevor Kavanagh and ask them for advice and LISTEN.

Then go back and consider everything you have been advised. Then action that advice.

You may then get a sizeable majority.

BUT, if you carry on listening to the Maude's and Letwin's of this world you have got a really great chance of losing and then never being forgiven by the tory party.

Richard is right, again, One can detect the fear. When Cameron ducked out of taking questions from journalists yesterday in Llandudno that proved to me, conclusively, that he aint up for a fight!

TAKE ADVICE TODAY. IT costs nothing and, you never know, you may learn from it!

DavidDP

"According to the Mail on Sunday"

Uhuh.

Walsingham's Ghost

O/T , but in his latest outing on TV is M'Lord Tebbit using coded language to urge Conservatives in Buckingham to vote for UKIP's Nigel Farage and not Speaker Berkowitz?
His comment that effectively Conservatives in Buckingham don’t actually need to vote Conservative in the GE, but should vote for the candidate who best supports true Conservative values (which in Buckingham means centre right conservatism) sounded suspiciously like it...

WG

Richard

Advise for Shameron from the late Michael foot.
"There is of course the fall back position...we could tell the truth"
Mr Pickles is absent by the way because he is sitting his mocks at the new Right wing School for Facist wanabe's.
Hope he has found his tooth brush!

Richard

Message to those who choose to bite the poster and not the post.

If you can't handle me on here how you going to handle the public without enforcing the view that the Tory party are still the nasty party......same old same old.
Just listening to the radio .....song playing..."let the sunshine in"....got to laugh or it would make you cry.

Smell the sweat
smell the sweat
smell the sweat.......

I will continue on the back of my who's who of the Conservative party.

When last inspected Ofsted report. The Royal warrant "Cabinet makers to her majesty's government" has still not been installed in the dinning hall at Eton.

General Zod

Richard, just remind us how many times your Dear Leader has faced Paxman.

denis cooper

The most pressing and serious problems acing the country - the economy.

The man who'd have to do most to deal with those problems in a Tory government - Osborne.

The man who'll be hidden in an office running the Tory campaign, rather than touring the country and getting on TV to explain the economic problems and say how a Tory government would deal with them - Osborne.

So what sense can be made of that?

JONNY

Richard may be an illiterate pubescent
but he sure has a hold on strapworld.
Wonders never cease.

Chuck Unsworth

And the Peter Wright of the Mail on Sunday is responsible for Conservative campaign planning? I expect he thinks so.

stephen

Good news that Boy George has been put in the "broom cupboard"[as one Coffee Houser calls it]. Better late than never! Let's hope Dave kicks the Boy out of the open plan office they share so Dave is not distracted by a stream of the Boy's ill thought out ideas which to date have largely undermined the Tories financial managemet credentials. Let's hope its not too late!

paulg

Rawnsley quote today - If you stand down wind from a senior tory you can small the sweat of fear! Guardian. Yer Right! it wasn't the tories who stabbed gordon brown in the back it was rawnsley, the guardain and the labour cabinet!

If Gordon gets back in he will wreck furious vengence on all of them.

They have all burned their boats with gordon Brown and, ...the night of the long knives will look like a tea party, when he is finished with them. Thats why I have been saying for months they will all vote tory!

London Calling

Enid Blyton's best-loved characters, including the Famous Five, are to make a comeback in a new series of adventures in The Faraway Tree and Malory Towers, with Julian, Dick, Anne and George.

I make that four…wheres David Davis? Still in the Tower….:)

strapworld

John Bercow was on the Politics Show this morning decrying ‘personal abuse’ in politics. He must have been reading the comments by the abusive Jonny!!

Jonny no mates!

Doppelganger

Well said Strapworld. As some of us have predicted since the first day of his election, Project Cameron is going down the toilet. At the moment it is just on the edge of the U bend.

Holly ......

Richard,
You sound like a jolly bloke to go down the pub with,so let's imagine we're down the pub
chatting about stuff and I ask you "how are Labour going to half the deficit in four years,yet square it with the public and the city that they will continue to spend and not cut for the next year"?
Then I ask you,"how are we going to improve primary education so the country and parents
don't have to pay again for extra tuition on reading writing & basic maths"?
Then we might get on to immigration and I ask you,"what are this limp wristed set of fools going to do about the porous borders,
fake uni's and illegal immigrant prisoners"?
Why did they allow so many in from outside the EU in the first place?
Then we could go onto the left wing punish the victim not the criminal,justice system.
Or the binge drinking costs to,the top heavy,NHS,or why,after thirteen years in power an entire generation are thrown on the scrapheap with mickey mouse exam results and in the middle of the worst recession...caused by Labour....since the war and why they are putting FAKE shop fronts on high streets instead of lowering business tax rates to encourage small businesses?
We could discuss the troops and the way Brown 'misled' us at the Chilcot enquiry,or how he boasts about a percentage of increase
in,say helicopters,turns out to be a load of bollocks,because in reality the numbers were so low to begin with.
We could then talk about the NHS and how targets have resulted in filthy death wards,yet Labour brag about the money they have chucked at it with no checks on how it was spent.
Yup you sound like a jolly chap and all in favour of Labour being re elected,so it is heartening that you must also believe in a god,angels and miracles.
I don't so just answer my questions.
I already know what my party are going to do,so I would like you to take your troll hat off and tell us what you KNOW your favoured party will do.
As for all the 'can't handle you on here cr@p',save it for those who give a hoot,you say Tories bad,Labour good...I am saying put some meat on your very lean bones.

Holly ......

The late Michael Foot?
Never PM,never did much that I can remember.
Forgotten by the masses until he died
Forgotten by the masses in a few days.
YOUR comment quotes Michael Foot as saying..
"There is of course the fall back position..
we could tell the truth".
I presume he was,at the time,talking to the Labour party. How bizarre it is still accurate today as Labour still do not know how to be truthful.
It is a fact that Labour are the same old liars and still useless at governing the country.
You would be more plausible if you advised Labour to take heed of Foot instead of putting yours in your mouth by quoting things like this,as it is a timely reminder of the lying zombies in the Labour party in 2010.Thanks for reminding us any road up,much appreciated.
Who says some trolls are thick,I disagree...

stevie

Oh, poor Little Richard. Never heard of Zanulabours complicity in torture? No? How's about lying to take the nation to war? No? Alistair Camp Bell? McBride? Draper? You're deluded lad, Brown is trying to get re-elected by telling lie after lie after lie and you are thick enough to swallow it.

Richard

@Holly

Blimey" where to start....I take it you favour the swappimg response to debate!
I would love to go to the pub with you but I do not drink how about a coffee instead?
I won't attempt to answer that long list its not practicle in this forum but I would take up the challage were it possible another way.
For all your positions you do seem incredibly certain of your parties postions which I think is a bit too trusting and very unwise.
Break your points down and lets try a bit at a time.

TGF UKIP

James, you can spin away all you like after that Downing Street job (some hope, matey, unless you too went to the very right school) but the Osborne absence is of more than just presentational consequence. As the Mail indicates, the Tories own polling shows the voters as having a very negative view of Osborne which is something many CHers have not required polls to tell them.

Where this becomes of serious consequence is if The Cameron Tories, despite themselves, actually by some miracle manage to win. Then Osborne becomes the man who will have to sell a very unpalatable menu of measures to what will be a hostile, and hostile to him in particular, disgruntled public. I know full well you neither like to accept nor face up to the consequences of Cameron's nepotism, James, but I would suggest it is becoming ever more difficult for you to do so as the disasters unfold before your eyes.

What this story also indicates though is the dearth of presentational talent there is among Dave's shadow Shadows. The ability to sell policy or required measures is more of a necessary skill for a frontline politician than developing policy is and the Tories are woefully short here.

Just think of those who they dare not let onto the screens - Spelman, Gillam, Loopy, Two Brains!, Maude, Herbert (worst media performance by any frontline politician I have ever seen when he appeared on QT.) Most of all though, James, I am puzzled that you express no surprise at the absence from the fit-for-TV faces of your favourite Tory, The Clique's tame oik, Polly Clark. Is he too at Herbert level in the presentational stakes or perhaps they just want to stay very clear of the climate change scam lest they infuriate their core even more - if that were possible.

Richard

@stevie
You talk like you know for a fact all those things are true! wow
As for the war I was one of those on the street trying to stop it where were you?
I don't think we were lied to but I think TB was wrong. He did it for what he felt were the right reasons. I do think he came to the wrong conclusion.....it happens and he has paid his price. Can I forgive and forget?...its really not for me its the Iraqi people! some will thank him and some wont so how can I judge I have never lived under a tyrant like SH.
For every Alistair Cambell there is an equivellent in the "New Cons" same with DM.
If you think Shameron has not told one lie to you and the people then you are the fool...this is politics after all not tiddly winks. At the end of the day we are all members of an interest group and the lesser of the three evils suits my interests can't be any fairer than that can I?

David Smith

Chris Grayling very apparent on TV today, Sky News and elsewhere.
Story about as accurate as the Mail's splash on Sam Cam. That was rubbish too!

Boudicca

They should be using Baroness Warsi. She is articulate - and as a Muslim woman, is the best person to talk about immigration.

I also think Dominic Grieve should get a slot. He is a calm and controlled speaker.

Major Plonquer

I think we are all agreed. Richard is a Dick.

RKing

Is "not drinking" the only thing that Richard has in common with Al'iar Cambell?

Richard

@ Major P

This from a person who calls themself a plonker...wow!