The Tories will have waves of dirt thrown at them

AuldCurmudgeon

"The Tories will have waves of dirt thrown at them"

I think this is something the Tories had better get used to.

Vulture

It's time that the Tories marshalled their own dirty trix brigade to start counter-attacking Liebour. (I thought this was what Andy Coulson was hired for, but he seems to be asleep.)

Get some of the lowest-hitting reptiles on board (eg. Jon Gaunt and Richard Littlejohn) and go for them - there's plenty of Liebour lies and crimes material to work on.

>Like its destruction of our economy.
> Like its refusal to honour its EU referendum promise ( Oops! Perhaps we'd better not go there...)
> Like Liebour's non-doms.
> Like Liebour's softness on criminals.
> Like Neathergate and its open-doors immigration policy.
>Like its scandalous betrayal of our soldiers in Afghanistan.
> Like its matchless record in starting illegal wars and then faking the reasons for doing so.
>Like its chummying up with Islamist loons who want to kill us all.
> Like its shooing into safe seats of left wing Trade Unionists who will put the clock back to the 1970s.

And so, endlessly on. Come on you Cams.
Let's see the colour of your fangs as you sink them in.

Carroll Barry-Walsh

Easiest way to infuriate them is to list out in the comments all those journalists at the Guardian - and they are very many - who went to public school (J Freedland included) with a special mention for those, like La Toynbee, closely related to the English aristocracy. If you want to be especially cheeky, include a reference to the Guardian's own tax arrangements (its companies incorporated in the Caymans, for instance) and how it minimises the tax it pays in the UK, together with a reference to the very large bonuses earned by its editor and the number of journalists it has had to make redundant as a result of the losses it incurs year after year. The moderators will eventually remove your comment, but it's free fun while it lasts.

John Lea

I suppose if it's a choice between Blue Labour and actual Labour, I'd vote for Dave and co. But if anyone - and I suspect there are a great many blinkered, anyone-but-Brown, Cameroons on this site - are still tugging unthinkingly at the hem of Princess Dave's garment, they should have a look here:
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

EyeSee

In a slanging match Labour's main weaknesses are; criminal acts by individual Labour MP's, criminal acts by the Labour Party, fabulous incompetence in implementing policies and pursuing legislation of no utility. For a specific though, can we get answers to questions over the Dome (now O2)? We know it turned into a pile of rubbish, fairly reflecting the qualities available in Lord Goldsmith and Mandelson, but a more serious issue remains. In the corner cutting rush to put the thing up, very little effort was made to clean up a site that had 100 years of gas production and oil contamination. Naturally Blair lied that he could easily sell the site and then couldn't. But investigations show toxins and heavy metals go down 30 feet. All that was done was 18 inches was scraped and a membrane put down. Planning permission allowed this, if the site was only in use for 12 months. Now, I may have missed something, but I don't think the site has been cleared and I believe the year 2000 was more than 12 months ago (though you can't be sure, bearing in mind how Labour use numbers). What has been the governments role in this and why no clear up of the carcinogenic chemicals and toxins on a site regularly used by large numbers of people? Has there been a 'deal' with the current owners or are health and safety requirements being ignored?

Nash

The Guardian article is pure class-warfare. Surely that must be some sort of "hate crime".

The sooner that public sector job adverts are on the internet the sooner we know the government is serious about using taxpayer money properly and the Guardian can fade into obscurity.

Jayu

The Tories the anti-establishment party? When did that happen then?

Moriarty

@Jayu

It happened in the course of what Hitchens called New Labour's "slow motion coup d'etat" in the course of which they assimilated the institutions of government to those of Party.

Ken

@Vulture: Include his appalling, wreckless indeed actionable economic record since 1997, the statutory incontinence of 5000 pieces of often badly-drafted new legislation since 1997 and Liebour's surveillance mania and cavalier disregard for civil rights.

Stu

That's right, James. It's just mud-throwing. Don't engage with his central point that to detoxify a brand you have to actually change rather than just move the mannequins around at the front of the shop.

Trafalgar

Interesting that Freedland stopped at the border of Somerset. If he'd continued into Wiltshire he would have had to mention the prospective candidate Wilfred Emmanuel-Jones. But he's black - so doesn't fit his Tory stereotype. He does have a double-barrelled surname though - perhaps something to get his red claws into.

And on the subject of Ashcroft not paying his share - let's not forget that the Guardian Media Group itself has used the strategy of using an off-shore company to make its acquisition of Emap with joint venture partner Apax tax-efficient.

Doppelganger

Putting aside that its is the Monarch who is the fount of all honour, and that she is not just our head of state, please can you explain why the award of honours should be limited to persons domiciled for tax purposes in the UK? What about foreign nationals who do great service to our nation? British nationals receive honours from foreign nations. Your view makes little sense to me.

Ian C

If the comments made are kept to the Guardian, then no voting volume will read them anyhow. It is only you journo's who read it along with a few teachers, luvvies and civil servants - but most of the latter can't read anyway. If they're made in the Mirror they are not likely to a)influence the direction of anyone's vote or b) be understood!

Greenslime

Who is Jonathan Freedland and what is the Guardian?

Mr. Green

"the Tories who will devolve power not to another layer of government or a panel of experts but to people."

Power-to-the-people being chanted at a mass gathering of Conservatives?

Wolfie Smith of the Popular People's Front would be turning in his copy of the Morning Star!

Verity

Doppelganger - I totally agree. I thought that was a strange post. There are many foreign nationals who have been awarded honours for services to our nation. His name slips my mind at he moment, although I can see his face, but an American in, I believe, the Reagan administration was given a gong for services which benefitted our country. He couldn't use it in the US, of course, but he used it when he came over to Britain. I think it was a Jewish name beginning with W --- arrgh! - if anyone knows, could they please post it or it will drive me nuts all day.

Also lots of Indians, Aussies and Kiwis have had honours and titles awarded for services to Britain the Commonwealth. Sir Edmund Hillary, for example.

Michael Booth

Mmmmmm how does Labour's class war approach reconcile itself with it's flagship policies of community cohesion, recognising diversity and anti-discrimination towards minorities?

Senor Frizby

I've been following John "Oy Toad Face, another G&T please steward" Prescott on Twitter and find his rhetoric massively offensive but strangely he gets traction with all the nerds gobble up negative spin like maggots on a corpse. That is the flavour of the election that I am seeing.

strapworld

Vulture and I speak the same language. You cannot fight filth with a pretty smile a=or by turning the other cheek. Oh that one could. It may have worked in the eighteenth century but not now.

I have written that Cameron should go, cap in hand, to lord Tebbit and ask for advice, and listen. I also suggested he ask Micheal Howard and Malcolm Raffkind. I would listen to them, also I suggested he bring in Littlejohn and Gaunt and Trevor Kavanagh and seek their advice in speech writing etc,

I would then ask Lord Tebbit to head a rebuttal unit, with David Davis, John redwood. and, if they would accept, Kelvin McKenzie, John Gaunt and Richard Littlejohn.

Cameron has got to realise that if this is a fight for the Country, he has to show some bottle and be willing to kick arse!

I thought William Hague was on Planet Zod todat at PMQ's. He looks a terribly unsettled man. It is time, Cameron, to get him on board and if that means ditching the liberals like Maude, Letwin and two brains all the best for the rest of us.

IF you cannot Cameron. please step aside.

Dorothy Wilson

Nash: Of course the potential loss of the revenue from public sector job adverts is possibly one of the key reasons why the Guardian is so abusive in its comments on the Conservatives.

JohnT

Not much point in restricting political honours and peerages to British taxpayers, when a citizen of any Commonwealth country (or the R o I) can vote here regardless of where - or even if - they pay tax.

John Ware

take on the vested interests? But they ARE the vested interests

Doppelganger

Verity

It was Caspar Weinberger

Verity

Good post, Strapworld.

BTW, I've remembered the name of the American who got a gong. Caspar Weinberg. (I think.)

Yosemite Sam

@ Verity
Caspar Weinberg, Secretary of State, honorary knighthood

denis cooper

The award of an honour, including a life peerage, should be just that, and not the award of a lifelong right to vote on our laws.

John David Barnett

Ken

Reckless.

TGF UKIP

Yosemite, not quite, CW was Secretary for Defense and the honour was in gratitude for the intelligence and weapons (sidewinder missiles among other stuff) supplied which made a considerable difference to the the Falklands Expedition. He was a genuine anglophile who also believed it was imperative that Argentina's adventurism did not succeed. This was in complete contrast to Reagan's UN Ambassador Jeanne Kirkpatrick who took the Argie side and lobbied Reagan vigorously to do the same.

Secretary of State Haig took a lofty and ambigous stance, in public at least.

TGF UKIP

Vulture and Strapworld, I couldn't agree more but one reason why so much shit is going to be shovelled is because Dave seems to be meekly willing to let it happen.

As I've posted previously, act like a bunch of limp wimps and you'll get treated like a bunch of limp wimps.

Archie

Sort of like this, I suppose Mr. Forsyth? Although it has to be said the gentleman gives a good account of himself, unlike his leader!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r9823
Starts about 13 minutes in. Thanks to Guido