Will Nick Griffin become a victim of his own expense claims?

TomTom

He is an MEP and we don't hold them to any high standard as they are "European"; that means the EU accounts are 'qualified' annually, and officials at OLAF the EU Anti-Fraud Office harass journalists like Tillack who expose corruption.

So no reason to expect transparency at all from EU institutions or MEPs.....mind you it does sound a bit like the House of Lords....or is that The Commons ? !!!!

David Ossitt

MEPs' are paid allowances; not expenses, somebody is trying to have a go at the BNP.

Jez

I predict around.... er, 60 comments... no between 50 to 60.

Ooooooo' let's see!

Beer Moth

Hang on. "...tentative signs" that the mainstream parties' reluctance to talk about immigration, is being addressed?

How and in what way - to what extent?

And even if this is correct, why has it taken so long? We are 12 years into the Labour plan to flood the country with immigrants, which carries on apace with nothing from the other parties to argue for its end.

All this, in addition to the constant if lesser stream of the previous 30 years or so.

John Adlington

None of the things you list seem particularly extravagant and his lack of expertise in documenting his expenses can be put down to a lack of experience and a feeble party machine to back him up; let's face it, most of the party are only borderline literate.

Face it. Nobody who reads the speccie votes Nazi anyway

TrevorsDen

Sadly beer Moth is right.

Expressing surprise at Griffins expenses is a bit naive. He is thick after all (though not as thick as those who vote for him) and cannot be expected to see what conclusions people might draw. Surely he will have drawn all is subsistence expenses?

Jez

Hi,

I like to contribute to my prediction of 60+ posts for anything BNP related (thus keeping the hit-stats happy regarding much needed advertising rev'- due to hard copy sales crashing across the fleet-street board- due to mainstream media attitudes being laid bare- due to the internet- maybe)

***I did NOT write this.... but if you have a spare 5 mins, flick through... it's very interesting.... and topical;

"The Failed State of England

Rarely in our world have we had the opportunity to watch, first hand, as a major Western power came crumbling down on itself in such a spectacular fashion as we are about to see with the final collapse of the now empireless Britain. Only the eventual collapse of the USA will make for a greater show than what is about to transpire on...or rather just off, the European continent.

For England is a failed state in all manner of levels and realities, from a total lack of freedom in the pseudo Stalinist prison camp, to the collapse of the economy, society and military, a physical collapse linked as a Siamese twin to the spiritual or moral collapse. A Godless post Christian enterprise, morally corrupt, economically penniless and over run by the most vile and foul and blood thirsty of modern world savages.

The failure is now most visible in the financial sphere, overshadowing other just as vital areas. England is a print happy, debtor nation, who while lecturing the failed economies of Iceland and Greece is itself running a 12.6% deficit, as opposed to the equally unsupportable one of Greece, at 12.7%. Worse, England is running a 0% interest rate, ruining the retirement of millions of its pensioners, even as its medical system goes about the task of dispatching them off in drove, to the other world, in a "dignified" manner, of course. At present, on average, one in 8 stores has closed down, leaving many areas abandoned, and the rate is continuing to accelerate.

Furthermore, the Stalinist state of England has forcably nationalized all major banks on the island, while spiking taxes on everything. The final blows in this financial alchemy are the proposed VAT on food, which will bring back the old misery of the 1700s and a tax on garbage, through smart garbage cans, able to judge the weight of the trash and charge accordingly, that is after a general tax that already is supposed to pay for the garbage. The final nail will be the green laws destroying what is left of England's industry.

Control wise, the government of the proto-Stalinst Blair/Brown and their shills of a Tori "Menshavik" so called opposition, have installed twice as many cameras as people. Everything is cataloged and tracked, from personal movements, to transactions to drives on the autobahns. Informants are everywhere, neighbor snitching on neighbor, friend on friend, family on family. Now comes the news that the police state will even keep dossiers on children as young as five who use or exhibit "racist" or "intolerant" behavior. What police actions will follow from this tyranny is yet to be determined. Of course this is Stalinist in the extreme, very similar to what that mad bastard did during his various great purges. The only things that are missing are the camps...for now.

To boot, the Islamic mass migration, into what is now a Jihad exporter, the UK, has been staggering, and now word has come out that the ruling elites and their shills did this on purpose. Image, a national elite that on purpose has taken radical steps to in effect, exterminate the very society that allowed them to climb to the level that they are at. In most societies, there would be pitch forks and fire brands, but not in England...only mildly worded letters of protest from the general public, as the Islamics rape and murder at will and the all watching and all knowing police state never seems to know what is and when this is going on...but God forbid you light up in a bar and refuse to put it out, they will sent an entire riot squad to get you.

Or God forbid, you fight back. Vigilantism will not be tolerated, smacks to much of individualism and must be crushed. Thus the Islamics and the half feral yobs, who will one day be recruited by them, get to run wild and victimize the rest of the population. The London metro system, smaller than Moscow's and serving a city and surroundings of half the population of Moscow, had 33 murders in 2009, as opposed to Moscow's 10. And the English write about crime in Russia?

Hang a few dozen of your hooligan and jihadist scum from trees and lamps and they'll get the point rather quickly.

But this should be no surprise, when considering that the Church of England is itself post Christian and leading the lost and be-fumbled population down into Hell and damnation and most Englanders are more than happy to follow along and spit blissfully into the eyes of God...after all, their masters have convinced them that they are humanist man-gods themselves.

Meanwhile top bishops in the Church are pushing for gay marriages and are more busy defending the Islamics that seek to Shari the Christians into extinction than in leading their flocks to Christ. Is it any wonder that the Orthodox Church is growing quickly in the UK, while whole congregations have petitioned the Catholic Pope to join Rome/ The Devil definitely has a play ground in the Church of England.

Even the vaunted English National Healthcare System is broken and killing, both by design and my neglect, possibly hundreds of thousands of people a year. In 2008, 6,000 women gave birth in corridors, lifts and taxis, when lack of beds and doctors forced them away at the last minutes before birth. A new report, just out, but apparently in the hands of the elites for over half a year, shows that some 50,000 or more a year are dieing from direct neglect in the hospital systems, and this is even without the Satanic Pathway in effect. What is the Pathway? Why the Pathway to Dignified Death, where they take sick or sickly elderly and not so elderly, pump them full of morphine and allow them to starve and dehydrate to death. The evil of such as system and the fact that the English tolerate it and have not risen past indignation and strongly worded notes, shows one how befitting of total collapse English society is.

And where are the Royals? Where are the God chosen defenders of English faith, culture and law? Where are those, designated by God to rule and veto this insanity? Why drunk, drugged and debauched into a stupor, where else? Why rule when you can screw and drink your way through life, without a care or worry and the Devil take you, and he will, what happens to your own kingdom. A sorrier lot is hard to imagine.

So what will it take to finally bring the last of this rotting wreck of humanity down? Why the upcoming war with Argentina, over the Falklands, of course. England is stretched bare in Afghanistan, yelping like a good lapdog to the yanks, the very same yanks who are obviously siding with the financially broke and corrupt Latin Argentinians over the financially broke and corrupt Anglo English. There simply is no way that England can keep the Falklands and the oil wealth there and this loss may finally tumble the rot down, a shock that the system will not survive.

But to be honest, there is some hope, in small parties, steadily gaining ground, like the English Defense League. Labeled everything under the sun that rhymes with Nazi, just like Geert Wilders and his Freedom Party, these chaps have their work cut out for them and frankly they may be way to late.

Good luck lads, you're more than going to need it."

.... mind you guys Peirce (?) Morgan is pushing into politics... celebrity shining through there.... and PMQ's, someone pulled a funny... and the Conservatives say that Unite is Labour influenced (what a newsflash that is- not)...

Vulture

What Beer Moth said : in what way, precisely is the immigration issue being addressed.

It certainly is never addressed on the Spectator thanx to Fraser's vow of Omerta on the plan to swamp this country with alien migration.

Instead of this tedious crap, how abt a post on that...or on the fact that Gordon Bruin has admitted lying in Parliament.

Allan Sharp

The 'expenses' are for expenses, which is to say money spent on political activities as an MEP. I hope that Nick Griffin will claim a further £60,000 for costs imposed on the BNP by an Establishment 'Judge' just before an election. Coincidence?

Maggie

These figures are utterly meaningless unless you tell us what every other MEP claimed so that we can compare them.

Yow Min Lye

Don't blame Griffin. Blame the profligate EU parliamentary gravy train that allows him and hundreds of other MEPs to live high on the hog at our expense.

Moriarty

The treatment of Griffin by Dimblebore was hilarious. It's very easy to stand up to a buffoon when there is no comeback. He's not so brave when it comes to fawning all over Martin McGuinness et al.

Maybe Mr Griifin's PR problem is that he hasn't killed little boys in Warrington. If he did then the BBC would be all over him.

Manxman

Thanks for that Jez. Very sad but very true. Here is my contribution, but I would suggest just 15-20 comments as the article is a pretty boring no news type story.
Nick Griffin could have made a career move and set himself up for life as a Labour/Tory MP if he so wished. Instead he chose to be a man of principle, he speaks the truth and consequently has spent many years in the political wilderness. He is the first prominent politician in many years to put his country's needs ahead of those of himself and even his family, [he has 4 children and it can't have been much fun for them over the years seeing the hatred and danger their Father is subjected to]. Smear stories and lies may keep the BNP down for a while, but not forever.

Pete Hoskin

Vulture: do you mean Brown's defence spending claim, exposed in PMQs? If so, we've mentioned it in two separate posts. And, also if so, Brown made the claim in the Chilcot Inquiry - not in Parliament.

Kennybhoy

Hi Jez,

Many thanks for the Russian fascist rant!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1505817/posts

Beer Moth

As far as the comments on Griffin goes: is there anything in his accounts which is unlawful? Anything which is morally out of order?

No, and no. He is a working politician, entitled to money which is used in the course of his work.

Such detail neither helps nor hinders his effectiveness. What hinders him is the seething resentment of an entrenched media cabal.

What helps him is the fact that the existence and depth of this arrogance and wickedness is now common knowledge.

Moriarty

I have no idea as to the merits or otherwise of this party because the bien pensants commentariat have decided on my behalf that I'm not intellectually capable of hearing their views.

I might vote for them at local government level for that reason alone.

paulg

what a stupid post the BNP membership don't care Nick Griffin rips of the E.U.
You must still believe in santa claus!

George J

Membership of the three main parties has been in steady decline for years, despite the millions they receive in political donations. BNP membership is rising, and they're doing it on a shoestring in the face of universal hostility from the media. Do you honestly think attacking Griffin's lack of transparency about his expenses is going to damage his cause?

What was that phrase Dennis Healey used in the UK House of Commons in June 1978 on being criticized by Geoffrey Howe? It'll come to me in a minute...

Judy

What interests me is the references in the accounts to the "English Fair Fund" including a "salary tithe" from Griffin of £5,000+ towards this campaign. Presumably what that means is that he uses a top slice from the EU funding he receives to fund a racist campaign (according to the latest Court rulings on the membership criteria of the BNP).

That's our taxes contributing towards that. I hope the electors of NW England who stayed home because they were too pissed off with the mainstream parties are really proud of themselves.

Roll on compulsory voting. A cynical, racist rip-off merchant like Griffin will stand no chance of getting elected if everyone is required to vote.

Jez

Hi Kennybhoy,

I didn't actually think it was....

The piece of material isn't mine... i had a quick flick through adjouning material to see if it had anything hard racist / anti-Semetic near it... and it didn't.

If it had, i wouldn't have used it.... because i don't like that sort of thing.

The thing is this though;

Think of a dumb animal walking the forest. The dumb animal walks ito a bear trap and its leg is trapped.

Hypothetically, that is you.

You disagree with something that is (as an opinion) more to the mark than anything in the corrupted MSM.....

and you scream *FASCIST!*.

I aren't a fascist, mate.

You are.

mandeville

Most people will view this latest attack on Griffin as little more than "methinks they doth protest too much" and put it down to the mainstream media huddling together for fear of stepping out of line. It seems the Spectator is no exception to this herding instinct.
However, most will also remember how accurately he predicted the London bombings and even where the perpetrators would come from.
If he's costing the tax payer some thousands of pounds in "research & consultancy" fees I recon that's good value, so let's hope his predictions get even more accurate the closer we get to the general election.

Joseph Gibson

Smear Story!

I would like to see the expense sheets of the other MEP's & MP's. I would like to know what allowances they have spent too!
Oh...
Atleast he's not deciding to cost us more by fighting not to be soo transparent!

Kenny Dee

This is not expense claims. This is from his allowance which is allocated to all MEP's and is very different from the lib/lab/con expense saga, which ripped off the UK tax payers.

Is the Spectator bound by the NUJ rules on reporting on the BNP. As you would have thought they know the difference from a allowance and a expense claim.

Roy Smith

Contributors here are correct in anticipating a record in replies. This is a good thing for Nick Griffin and the BNP as well as the profitability of the news machines, since it shows a good following. The pertinent point is this: the BNP (choose how Nazified they are) they tell the truth about the country! While every other party perpetuates the lie and keeps us Englanders in the dark, they express sympathy and have the only policy that can work. Given the gross mess the country finds itself in, it is somewhat ironic that such as John Adlington can say they are; "borderline literate". It doesn't say much for the crowd who have taken us thus far into the abyss.

terence patrick hewett

It really doesn't matter how the BNP behave. The whole point of the BNP is that the working classes have found something that scares the giblets out of the political classes and success breeds success, so expect more of the same.

chirs

I am a little dissapointed in you Fraser. Although common purpose trained you should know the difference betwen £175k between 8 people is still a small wage. I am sorry you have joined the ranks of the real Nazi media.

I hope you can find it in your heart to stick to real reporting and not Labour and Searchshite smearing of a party on it's way to putting this country back in front of the world. Not at the back which your Ethnic mates Brown and Darling have done. Or Or are you really that blind???

Vulture

@ Pete:

I would have thought that the fact that the PM admitted lying was worth a post on its own - not just a 'mention'.

And I know that he lied to Chilcot - I mean he admitted lying in Parliament.

Also, you failed to answer my question on how, exactly, the mainstream parties are addressing the immigration issue.

SarahPollard

Griffin is such a hypocrite. A man who says he wanted to get into politics because of the expenses scandal is now doing what all other politicians do, stealing from taxpayers. £2,800 for office furnishings is just ridiculous. Griffin only published a loose account; I for one would like to see the full account. For a man who championed transparency, Griffin has really undermined himself by not publishing a full account. In order for politicians to be more transparent the Jury Team proposes that politicians should be forced to operate under the Nolan Principles of Public Life. These include openness, selflessness and honesty, three things Griffin doesn’t seem to have heard of.

Bouchard

to george

denis said about howe it was like being ravaged by a poodle lol

Herbert Thornton

Two interesting things about the 29 comments that have appeared so far are that -

1. Only four of them are unfavourable towards Griffin and the BNP, and

2. Those four consist of little more than personal abuse directed at either Griffin or the party's members.

Kennybhoy

Hi Jez!

Is it just a coincidence that you tend to turn up on posts relating to the BNP man? LOL!

The Mat Rodina site is classed as a hate site by even the most permissive of internet filters!

Incidentally, do you know what Mat Rodina means?

The bear caught in a trap is an interesting choice of imagery in this context! A couple of years back there was a TV documentary, on Channel 4 I think, about the state of Russia. It was not, but it could have been the TV accompaniment the Mark Steyn article I linked to. It had a splendid trailer ad which used the image of a dying Russian bear, it's foot caught in a trap and trailing blood, painfully dragging itself across a snow covered landscape. I cannot for the life of me recall the actual title of the documentary. I would love to find a vid of the trailer to post on that nasty wee FSB funded site that you seem so fond of! LOL

Barbara

Its so easy to belittle the BNP, everyone's on the bandwagon, and it's boring. At least the parties faced the issues of this country with courage, that's more than the main three. They don't mention immigration they're to scared. We now do talk about it, thanks to them bringing it to the public domain. They are organised have a good setup, and have gone to great lengths to be honest about their intentions, again that's more than most political parties we have today. Do we want the EU, no we don't and they say quite plainly they will give us a referendum on it. Do we want to stay in Afganistan indefinately, no we don't, again they state they will withdraw. All what the British people want. Quangos will be dismantled, again money wasted which we need urgently. What more could any country ask for a party that gives it's people the chance to choose, and put it's own first. They're are many who deride the BNP, but they should first rethink whom and what we have in the three main parties.
This week Mr Griffin held a meeting hi-lighting the plight of Cockermouth residents from the flooding, with pictures and the private companies who have caused the flooding problems. No money off the EU for our people at all. He has done good work within the EU, for the short time he's been there, people should get their facts right. Name calling, abusive comments won't wash any more we now know it's time for change, it might not be the BNP's time just yet, but they will get stronger has we see the same sort of politics we've had for the past 12 years repeat its self in the next parliament. Lets face it how could any new party do worse than the last century and this with what we've endured. I know where my vote will go.

Jez

Hi Kennybhoy!

Coincidence?

It might have been a few years back, 'Man'... but when the BNP is brought up in this publication (and others like it) then it's probably the only interesting thing that's said.

You see, i can't really (sensibly) focus on what the f*** Peirce Morgan thinks.... or what tax break the over 90's may get if the Tories get in this time..... because i find these subjects- and the avalanche over other time-wasting rhubarb a load of bullsh*t.

I have absolutely no feelings of pro or anti Russian sentiment..... (blow me though- you must! Strewth.)

er, LOL?

I'm going to let you into a little secret here Kennybhoy.... i was in my late twenties when the race-riots hit our towns up here... before then i had absolutely no concept of culture difference, the way we were being sold out or how the memories of the fallen in two world wars were being shafted (time to switch of now liberal elite on hearing that- i know the score).

So- i thought that we were just going to get steam rollered out of the way....

and that the media, esablishment sorts- the people 'out of this' who could actually do something were unaware....

In my opinion, it'd only take a little time for them to realise this- and a happy compromise would be afforded to all parties.

Hey, it could have happened- and all would be sound.

But alas; 'Bullsh*t Mr Hangman' it would be ok...

The elite want to see us taken out. Full stop.

Global Citizens don't care about nation states..... that's why the liberal elites hate places like Israel.

The BNP gets two MEP's.... surely to God the machine will at least listen?

No.

It just increased it's manipulative destruction of the country as we know it.

So i gave up with waiting for that- and now focus 100% on my beautiful, ace family.

The white, mixed race communities- that are British in Culture aren't going to get taken out as i origionally thought all that time ago.... (i strongly suspect) but they'll come together (as it seems to be where i live).

So there you go.

A message to the people that are terminally failing on all fronts in the establishment regarding .... er, everything?

It could be happening to a better bunch.... pity you're dragging us all down with you.

Tarra.

Jez

Hi Kennybhoy... again,

I can remember the trailer....

Does Mat Rodina mean 'Mother Russia'?

But let's face facts,

If the western-media coverage of the Beslan massacre or the 'angle' of reporting regarding the Ossetia conflict is anything to go by.... er, i don't think i'll be taking much notice mate of a Channel 4 'documentary'.

May i repeat (again)... i have not enough interest (or knowledge) of the inner workings of the Russian Federation to be taking sides.... although i will make up my own mind on news reports by our media when they are presented to me on primetime TV.

Man.

Jez

I win!

Great.

(Although 25 shy of my prediction... DOH!)