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Saturday, 3rd April 2010

Osborne confirms that there will be no more Tory cuts this year

Peter Hoskin 10:50am

David Cameron said as much in his Today Programme interview, but now we know for sure: we've heard everything we're going to about Tory spending cuts this year.  George Osborne confirms the news in an interview with the Guardian today:

"In the interview, the shadow chancellor also disclosed, for the first time, that he would not reduce public spending by more than £6.5bn in the current financial year. He said £6bn would come from efficiencies, and £500m from cuts to child trust funds and working tax credits for the better off.

There would be no further 'in year' cuts in his emergency budget, scheduled within 50 days of a possible Tory victory, he said."

It's tempting to point out that £6.5 billion worth of cuts pales beside a deficit of £163 billion and a debt burden of around £1 trillion.  But it's also true that we should really judge a Tory government on the cuts they make in subsequent years.  Not only do spending decisions take a while to filter through the system – but, also, Osborne would have had his hand on the wheel for long enough to properly alter the course of Brown's spending tanker.

I suppose the question now is whether there would be any further "in year" tax rises in that Emergency Budget.  Only an election, and few months, stand in the way of us finding out.

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Ahiata

April 3rd, 2010 11:08am Report this comment

Make it up as you go along. Sad really.

I also want to know what will happen to VAT? If VAT goes up to pay for NIC reduction, then I am not a happy bunny. But I am not holding my breathe to get an answer on that one.

Naomi Muse

April 3rd, 2010 11:11am Report this comment

Hold The Front Page!

If what is revealed in the Times City Diary yesterday is true, there is £26bn more sitting in the Treasury that Broon has apparently forgotten from secret tax deferrals by big corporations caused by the cash crisis in the banks...

Apparently Broon would be too shame faced to admit that he had 'forgotten' this dosh. Worth an FoI query, to reveal all whilst the rest of the world thinks about chicks and eggs.

Tim W

April 3rd, 2010 11:34am Report this comment

Osborne bangs on about producing a 'Credible plan' for sorting out the deficit. I agree with him that £6.5bn may be all that is sensible and possible in the first year (which has already started). But he needs to make it very clear either before the election or in his emergency budget after it roughly what cuts will be made in years 2, 3, and 4. To some extent all parties have agreed that the cuts will be deeper than Thatchers in those years so announcing them early and getting cross party agreement could help with any re-election prospects.

Richard

April 3rd, 2010 11:49am Report this comment

One really does wonder just how the business leaders will feel when VAT rises to 21%.
Osborne may have reversed a part of the NI rise... but for higher earners (management and upwards) it is still in place.

So if NI is a tax on jobs, VAT a tax on sales, seems to me that they will get the proverbial double whammy from the tories.

Perhaps they will look again at the Labour proposals?

perdix

April 3rd, 2010 12:25pm Report this comment

The Tories have said they have no plans to increase VAT. Do keep up!

Richard

April 3rd, 2010 12:52pm Report this comment

No Plans hey.......they have a track record of saying that and doing the opposite.

Follow the rise in VAT and see who increased it.

mike

April 3rd, 2010 1:02pm Report this comment

I understand if elected, the privileged ones will be asking their dads to help out with a few bob to see them through.

denis cooper

April 3rd, 2010 2:03pm Report this comment

To simplify, there's been a gradual convergence between the budget deficit reduction trajectory publicly proposed by the Tories and the budget deficit reduction trajectory publicly proposed by Labour, and the two are now barely distinguishable.

And because for electoral reasons the Labour government hasn't done much in the way of trimming public expenditure during the period of grace provided by the Bank of England creating around £198 billion for the government to borrow and spend, much of that initial trimming has been deferred until after the election.

So we're now about a year behind where we should be, and we'll stay about a year behind unless the gilts market forces the government to accelerate cuts and catch up.

And even then, neither party has stated that their proposed trajectory would be extrapolated to the point where the government actually balanced its books, and then started to run a budget surplus so it would be in a position to pay down the accumulated debt.

Peter From Maidstone

April 3rd, 2010 4:01pm Report this comment

Nicholas, I am in full agreement with you.

I have asked the moderators why they allow trolls to dominate the site so much.

TGF UKIP

April 3rd, 2010 4:03pm Report this comment

Just as some Coffee Housers have been saying for these past few years - Brown Labour, Blue Labour - no difference.

Ahiata

April 3rd, 2010 4:24pm Report this comment

Perdix - I thought the mantra was that nobody could rule out VAT rises. Also extending the scope of VAT is not the same as increasing the rate of VAT.

sandy

April 3rd, 2010 4:53pm Report this comment

Incredible to me that Osborne is not proposing an immediate public sector recruitment freeze on taking office.

Ahiata

April 3rd, 2010 5:13pm Report this comment

Peter, you are so right. To quote Rod Liddle the 'overwhelming' majority of posts are from trolls.

That includes you and me.

mike

April 3rd, 2010 6:45pm Report this comment

Peter From Maidstone "I have asked the moderators why they allow trolls to dominate the site so much."
Sticks and stones Pete, sticks and stones.

perdix

April 3rd, 2010 9:02pm Report this comment

Ahiata 4.24 - as I would interpret it, if you extend the scope of VAT, meaning that something zero rated would have a rate applied, that would also mean an increase.

Snowman

April 3rd, 2010 9:43pm Report this comment

will he also confirm that there will be no more frost this year?

Ahiata

April 3rd, 2010 10:22pm Report this comment

Snowman, you sound like a turkey voting for Christmas!

Snowman

April 4th, 2010 12:16am Report this comment

Ahiata at 10.22

Try, for a change to use your head for thinking rather than putting a hat on. Whoever wins the next election will have to face a five-year stint far worse than the time of the blitz, and without the help from the Winstons of this world. The party, or parties if I’m right that Labour and the sandal wearing bunch are to form a coalition, will be buried forever sorting the mess out. Hopefully, the Tories defeat will also see the end of Dave, and the country will get to choose next between a decent Tory party, and whatever else comes out the remnants of the two losers.

You reckon I wrong?

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