Laws is unperturbed by the scorched earth

Fabian Solutions

I’m sick of hearing rich Tories like you bleat about the national deficit and framing it as an excuse for attacking the working class.

What about the massive personal debts working people will incur as a result of job and pay cuts?

The fact is the economic system relies on workers staying in debt so it can squeeze more cash out of them after exploiting them.

The Tories are still in thrall to the completely discredited doctrines of the reactionary Friedman, who was complicit in Suharto and Pinochet’s bloody coups and military dictatorships, and whose ideas were adopted by Thatcher in her ruthless smashing of working-class communities.

You clearly haven’t read Klein, Greg Palast (who studied under Friedman) and Joseph E Stiglitz who effectively debunk monetarism and neoliberalism.

If we need to raise money let’s start by jailing the parasitic bankers, seizing their assets and redistributing them to the people who actually do proper work – the miners, the factory workers, the train drivers and mechanics, nurses and labourers.

Anand

I would argue Laws is well on his way to impressing a lot of Tories. I think he would make a find Chancellor and has the intellectual nouse and career experience to back up his appointment.

One rising star indeed. Osbourne better watch out

GeoffH

At last. Credit where credit's due.

If the other LibDems in the cabinet perform half as well in the Commons, master their brief half as well and look as confident in media interviews, then the coalition will be well set.

Both Gove and Hague today set the standard high for their Conservative colleagues to match.

Cameron we can expect to lead from the front. Now the June 22 Budget will be critical for Osborne. I confidently expect a well-crafted Budget and a solid presentation.

This is shaping up to be a government with few, if any, weak links.

strapworld

Thank you Mr Blackburn. Summed up perfectly. As I wrote earlier he certainly impressed my wife and me. A man on top of his brief.

Doug

David Laws was extremely impressive in the 'House Of Commons' today [Queens Speech Debate].
{And I say this as a long time tory.}
His replies to the opposition speakers were as telling as any I have heard for a long time, fast thinking on his feet and a master of the facts.
I seldom post a comment, but David Laws performance so impressed me he deserves a comment in praise of his performance.

Doug

Re. previous comment:-

Please read 'Urgent Question by Alistair Darling' instead of 'Queens Speech debate.'

Michael Booth

‘And we are looking very closely at all of the decisions that have been made and we will be making further announcements shortly, about the action that we will have to take.’

criminal prosecutions perhaps? one can only hope...

strapworld

Fabian Solutions may have a point. Let us start with criminal proceedings and then, if and when convicted, a long time behind bars. Then I would agree with certain bankers joining them.

But for head in the sand stupidity BT and a 1million pound bonus for the boss is so so stupid. But, there again, who is now on the board? Patricia Hewitt!!! Nuff said.

GeoffH

Please don't feed the troll at the top of this thread.

Ever.

Nicholas

Fabian Solutions - what about poor working class Tories like me bleating? Does that still make you sick or is your prejudice aimed only at the stereotypes of your oh-so-last century class hatred?

Andy Carpark

A chap who used to work for David Laws in Cowley Street, and no slouch himself, once told me he was the smartest bloke he had ever met, capable of switching at the drop of a hat from one highly detailed policy area to another when the 'phone rang.

You don't retire from the City in your early 30s to work at Liberal HQ without being pretty exceptional.

Fabian Solutions

@Nicholas

I don't mean to sound rude but many would describe you as a class traitor.

What would Gideon Osborne - ex-Bullingdon Club member, and heir to the Osborne baronetcy of Ballentaylor in County Tipperary - know about fiscal responsibility anyway?

The Tories are no longer trying to conceal the truth. They are the open class enemy - the avowed opponents of the hard-working families that Gordon Brown gave his life to protect.

Gordon Brown had his faults - but you can't doubt his probity and integrity. Like Ellie Gellard, every time I hear his farewell speech it makes me well up. It makes me weep to think how our country has exchanged his sincere Presbyterian morality for these vacuous, shallow public schoolboys.

The Oncoming Storm

I've been really impressed with Laws, he's a true fiscal conservative who knows the importance of balancing the books. The fact that he's the one attacking Labour over their scorched earth tactics makes it harder for them to wriggle out of it as they can't portray him as a baby eating Tory!

Mycroft

Floreat Etona! Since it is one of the best schools in the world, I suppose its products are bound to be vacuous and shallow.

Vulture

Fabian

Your moist-eyed adoratioon of the one-eyed Scottish monster is the funniest thing I have read since the creature's own hilarious resignation statement.

Have you had your first wet dream about him yet? (You come over as an 11-year-old hero worshipping intellectual cock virgin).

Tell me, do you get out much? Have you ever met a real person? Do you, in fact, exist? Or are you a Hologram of Gordon's old mum?

JONNY

I'm getting the feeling Comrade Fabian Solutions
is going to provide us all with
uproarious comic relief during these tense and difficult times.
The Comrade's shaping up nicely.

Derek Green

Fabian Solutions is living in cloud cuckoo land if he describes Brown as having probity and integrity. The man is a proven serial liar. He lost any claim to integrity with his completely mendacious claims about Conservative policies before the election. The country is well rid of this totally incompetent Chancellor.

Cuffleyburgers

Fabian is far funnier than Richard of York and the fat one put together. They are just tedious.

This stuff is brilliant! You don't read it obviously but it's nice to know it's there.

PeeJay

I was very impressed by Laws today, he's proving an effective performer, not overly partisan, no spin, just concise.

Fabian Solutions

@Vulture

Can't you bring yourself to stop the partisan, tribal hatred for a few minutes and thank a public servant - a former Prime Minister, no less - for the services he's rendered to the country?

I feel sorry for you that you feel the need to start using hate-speech. When people resort to personal insults it's usually a sign they've lost the argument because they don't have anything worthwhile to contribute.

Ron Todd

Fabian

I am a far from rich working class Tory. Gordon Brown increased the number of jobs in the public sector far past that required for what was needed to be done. From personal experiance I know that at least some parts of the public sector were well overmaned even brfore Brown.

If more money had been kept in the pockets of employers and workers some of it could have been used to create real useful productive jobs.

Mycroft

Heigho Fabian, do you not see that your ranting about public schoolboys is nothing other than 'partisan tribal hatred'?

Fergus Pickering the Class Traitor

Gordon Brown was a public servant, was he? Didn't mke anything public if he could help it and distinctly unservile. Gordon Brown should be imprisoned next to Blair. And then shot. That's the way we lefties deal with enemies of the state, isn't it? That's long before we start of the bankers. By the way, which bankers have you in mind? Come on, feller, name names.

emil

Fabian

Yes indeed we should be grateful.

Thank you Gordon for selling our gold, stealing our pensions and saddling future generations with mountains of debt that will hurt the people who have to work ever harder to support your deliberately created benefit culture. Thank you so very, very much.

Paul Wakeford

Look everybody. Let the Paleo Fabian whatever he is have his say - then ignore him. Do not encourage him; he is just winding you up. Let him go and plague someone else.
Make your own points without reference to his Pliocene input.

Simon Stephenson

"His observations on the Labour government’s record are more pertinent than George Osborne’s because he is making them in the national interest, not as some party political knockabout"

Oh come on, Mr Blackburn! This is no more than desperate construction of a state of affairs that you would like to exist. What are you suggesting? That Mr Laws' words can be taken as devoid of party-political content because although he's a member of the government, he's also of the minority party in the coalition, and therefore he's been handed a free rein to speak wholly in terms of the national interest.

Codswallop.

Noa Zrk

Fab Sol
"You clearly haven’t read Klein, Greg Palast (who studied under Friedman) and Joseph E Stiglitz who effectively debunk monetarism and neoliberalism...".

Erm no, and I don't think I'll bother thanks, but if they are the inspiration for your beloved Big Ger, they can take due credit for inspiring the massive national debt we now have.
He should of course be tried for malfeasance of office, as the worst Chancellor and Prime Minister in living history.

But your humourous post did brighten my day, so thank you.
It's nice to have a wild eyed young leftie old school trotskyite blowing a breath of red hot air into these hallowed capitalist e-halls.

Nicholas

Fabian: "I don't mean to sound rude but many would describe you as a class traitor."

Er, because I exercise my democratic right to support a legitimate political party in a free country? So, what do you think should happen to me? Re-education camp or down in the cellar with one in the back of my head?

I don't mean to sound rude either but when I read words like "class traitor" being written in 2010 a cold shiver goes down my back and I think of the millions of people persecuted, tortured and murdered by regimes which promoted the same agenda as you. Have you people learned nothing from 20th Century history?

Your stereotyping of human beings by their class and the creepy mantra that goes with it are far more dangerous to this country than a Tory Chancellor. I feel ashamed on behalf of my class for people like you who are keeping alive a bigotry, prejudice and class-divisive negativity that belongs in the early 20th Century and should stay there.

2trueblue

The best thing aboutthe coalition government is that someone else has seen the books and we do not have to listen to 2 parties bleeting that it is rubbish now that we have discovered that 'there is no money left'. Laws is very clever and also very lucky. Were it not for the coalition he would still be some sort of clever chap with no profile or opportunity. The coalition has offered us all an opportunity and if it can make this country stronger then we will be ok. We have had a bunch of lunatics running the country for 13yrs and anyting has to beat that. Any idiot who thinks that Brown acted in our interests is deluded. He stole our future and our childrens future, there is no bigger theft.

bartimeus

@Fabian Solutions

Whose riches are you going to re-distribute ?

Anyone with "riches" has already left the country. Keep taxing EVERYONE into the ground (Gordo McStupids policy) 90% of the bankers in this country are non-domiciled, they'll just leave taking their assets with them. Then you will have a "Fabian Solution" , a bankrupt country with the class warriors baying for blood of the rich , however by that time being rich will mean being a couple (unmarried ofc) and drawing two dole cheques and 6 or 7 lots of child support.

Money is earnt , it doesn't come from thin air. If you are so concerned you and gordo can start off by donating your money to charity ( no sign of that from Gordo yet though , what a surprise).

Gaelforce9

Please don't discourage Fabian from posting on here; he is doing a wonderful job of exposing the threadbare nature of Labour policies, and the meaningless, dated nonsense that underpins it.

Anyway, he's fast becoming a daily treat - any change of him doing a few stand-up gigs?

Holly ......

I watched Laws run rings around the opposition yesterday and again was very impressed.
The 'Labour's fault' dig either at the beginning or end of EVERY question & answer was a joy to hear.
Cuts are coming get over it.
Some on here still back Bozo????
'A public servant'?
Thank him for services he's rendered to the country'????
Useless schools,filthy death wards,cardboard
police,H&S,bin police,child killers/abusers
wrecked pensions,Lisbon treaty,troop betrayal,backstabbing,lying,smearing,mass
immigration,Balls, Mandelson,the MASSIVE debt...the list is endless with the stuff to thank Bozo for.
Time to take defeat and sod off.
The Conservative/Lib Dem GOVERNMENT has knocked the spots off Labour so far and Labour bods need to acknowledge they are exactly where WE the people put them.
Out of government...surplus to requirements and out of power,for at least five years.
HAPPY DAYS!!! as someone used to say on here.

Tom Burroughes

I agree. We should encourage Fabian to keep posting his comments, to remind folk of the nightmare of the previous administration and to keep the current one on its toes.

YMT

Blimey, Fabian is obviously some sort of Labour online strategy pseudonym, this "poster" appears on practically every single site and blog spitting out the Labour line. Get over it fool, you lost.