A grim turning point for Ed Miliband
Peter Hoskin 11:44am
Yesterday's PMQs already feels like a turning point. It wasn't so much the nature of
David Cameron's victory – comprehensive though it was – but rather the way Labour MPs have reacted to Ed Miliband's defeat. Whatever doubts some of them held privately about their
leader have suddenly spilled out, mercilessly, across the snow. In his Daily Mail sketch, Quentin Letts describes Miliband's excrutiating exit from the chamber yesterday; Guido and the Telegraph are carrying remarks from disgruntled Labour figures. The
volume of hostile radio chatter has risen considerably over the past twenty-four hours.
Of course, there are several caveats to be slapped across all this – not least that Labour are bobbing up above the Tories in the polls. But it does seem that Ed Miliband's honeymoon period, such as it was, is crumbling fast. If his troops' unhappiness becomes, and remains, the story, then he will find it difficult to gain any sort of momentum over the next few months. Particularly as he is currently offering what is, at best, an uncertain policy prospectus.
The real worry for Labour is that this is 2007 all over again. Back then, Brown's unchallenged rise to the throne meant that Labour didn't have the internal debate it required; a debate which might have gone some way to resolving the old Brownite vs Blairite wars. This time, of course, Ed Miliband beat four other candidates to the job – but he did so thanks to union support, and with most Labour MPs backing his brother. For many of them, MiliE will continue to be part of the problem, not the solution. And that doesn't augur well for the stability of this, ahem, new generation.



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salieri
December 2nd, 2010 11:53am Report this commentCouldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Colin
December 2nd, 2010 12:02pm Report this commentHe wasn't any good when he was in charge of windmills, so, what made anyone think he'd cut it as leader of the opposition?
Lovely!
Sally Chatterjee
December 2nd, 2010 12:14pm Report this commentLabour held an election for leader but have not worked out what they stand for. Selecting this careerist who exploited tax dodges to inherit a posh house just because he talked lefty to please the crowd shows there was no fundamental analysis.
mitcheltj
December 2nd, 2010 12:24pm Report this commentthat will teach him for stabbing his brother in the back. I wonder what David is thinking now?
Baron
December 2nd, 2010 12:32pm Report this commentgive the guy a break, he’s as good/bad as the rest of them, the Labour MPs' frustration has more to do with their knowing not where to turn on the political weather map with the Coalition occupying Labour’s old comfort zone.
BigAl
December 2nd, 2010 12:40pm Report this commentBalls and all have been very quite over the last few months. No doubt plotting for the future arrival of MilliD rather than fighting for RedEd. Who persuaded him to use the Thatcher line - it was suicide! Attacking university fees was an open goal.
Kristian
December 2nd, 2010 1:07pm Report this commentThe PM backtracks on school sports funding, simultaneously delivering yet another embarrassing blow to Michael Gove, but as long as conservative circles continue to gloat about a well-rehearsed line (which will ultimately backfire on the PM when his Thatcherite social cuts come in) then it didn't happen. Genius!
GDT
December 2nd, 2010 1:07pm Report this commentMichael Foot MKII.
He's everything I had hoped for.
Ricky
December 2nd, 2010 1:12pm Report this commentAs I wrote yesterday:
Blair was a lucky Prime Minister with the economic cycle coinciding with the political cycle. He won three elections because despite his perfidy he was confronted by a wounded, weak & lame opposition led by Howard, Hague and IDS.
To repeat: the Coalition are entitled to such similar luck.
Ed P
December 2nd, 2010 1:15pm Report this commentWhat is happening to Mildred's hair? Is the white stripe significant, perhaps indicative of the stress he is under in a job for which he is unfit?
Or perhaps it's from bleach, as he tries to remove that pesky red streak!
Moraymint
December 2nd, 2010 1:25pm Report this commentI suppose this is what happens when the unions have extraordinary control over a political party; democracy flies out the window.
That said, since when did the Labour Party ever concern itself too much with democracy? Thirteen years of dictating to the nation from Westminster lay testament to that.
Senor Frizby
December 2nd, 2010 1:26pm Report this commentI am not a Labour voter but do believe in the value of an effective opposition. Yesterday's PMQ's were painful to watch and embarrassing in assessing the quality of our democracy. Ed M was so ineffectual that Labour should boot him into the long grass.
tonyp17
December 2nd, 2010 1:50pm Report this commentLet him be and see his party rot in his hands.
Until they acknowledge the need for financial management when in power it is vital they are never again reelected.
Chris lancashire
December 2nd, 2010 2:28pm Report this commentI believe MillibandE has been excrutiatingly bad since the very first PMQs. Funny thing is, there was a bloke on here yesterday thought Milliband won PMQs. Quite amazing.
Greenslime
December 2nd, 2010 3:31pm Report this commentI was fascinated by the little flashes of temper when his punch didn't land as expected and the punishment was a quick jab from Cameron.
A nasty little idealogue who doesn't like it at all when people don't see things the way he does.
Has he ever done a proper job?
GDT
December 2nd, 2010 3:42pm Report this comment@ Chris Lancashire,
you most probably refer to Davidk.
He scored it 1-0 to EDM.
He must have been on day release from the funny farm.
AF
December 2nd, 2010 3:53pm Report this commentWell according to Peter Hain being interviewed last night "Ed is doing a fantastic job"In fact he was quite excited how it was all going swimmingly well.
I always thought he was easily pleased.
toni
December 2nd, 2010 5:36pm Report this commentDo give over Mr. Hoskin, really.
Anyone would think that Cameron was a successful Commons performer and loved by his party after he was elected Tory leader, and a bit of an own goal for you as a matter of fact, since comments here and to ConHome were then, and still are now; shall we say....frequently unflattering?
Anyway, I'm sure Miliband and co. will be distraught to be criticised by the lowest elements of the journalistic profession - sketch writers.
Tweety
December 2nd, 2010 5:50pm Report this commentI'd rather be the child of Thatcher line will come back to haunt Cameron very soon. It looked as though he was bragging, and when the cuts start to bite methinks he's in deep whoopsy.
Holly ......
December 2nd, 2010 5:53pm Report this commentEd P.1.15.
Ed models himself on old man Mallen.
The ruthless squire with a genetic yellow
streak...I mean white streak in his hair.
Who fathers numerous illigitimate children.
Illigitimate child-
The illigitimate offspring of unmarried parents.
Ed was also sooooo busy doing something else
he did not put his name on his first born son's birth certificate.
If Ed's will says,'to my children'I leave all my assets to be split equally,the child will have to go,with paternity papers to have them filed in the courts...Blood tests all round then eh?
Ed is not only bad,he IS worse than Bozo has
no personal morals or beliefs,no courage
or character.
He was also far too busy doing something else when asked about why he didn't go and talk to the students on the demos.
If my dad(who was a complete dog by the way)
had given the 'I was busy doing something else'as an excuse for not putting his name on my birth certificate,I would have been offended.
Let's hope the students begin to feel the same way.
A case of 'I support you',but will not put myself out for you.
Unlike our present PM who flew out to Zuric
to champion the England bid,flew back to Britain for PMQ's to respect his duty to parliament,then flew back out to Zuric to champion the England bid again.
Bods like Kristian are more wrapped up in DC
'backtracking' on sports budgets.
Which is really just another look to MAKE SURE it is the right decision.
More proof,if any were needed who has the better personal character and does not have the Labour mentality of 'I'm right,
you're wrong.
Overall,the bad,yet nevertheless correct, press reports about Ed couldn't happen to a nastier,spiteful,two faced,backstabbing shafter.
Oh and did I mention that Ed will prove to be worse than Bozo.Well I did,weeks ago.
Paul T Horgan
December 2nd, 2010 8:01pm Report this commentThe core issue is that Miliband minor leads the MPs in Parliament but he is not the leader they voted for.
So exactly what incentive do they have to support him?
If he is rejected in the same cruel fashion that IDS was, then Labour will be forced to rethink how it elects its leader.
AS soon as there is trouble with the unions in this country. The Tories can portray Miliband minor as the unions' candidate. And he will be unable to deny it.
Silent Hunter
December 3rd, 2010 12:19am Report this commentWith respect to the stability of Labours new 'Generation' . . . I expect he (& they) will probably just. . .f...ff...fffade away!
Roger Davies
December 3rd, 2010 8:27am Report this commentIf this man ever becomes PM then we can officially right off UK's future. It really would be time for everyone with more than two brain cells to leave.
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