Hain puts his foot in it
Peter Hoskin 1:09pm
Crude politics has intruded on the Royal Wedding after all, and all courtesy of Peter
Hain. The Shadow Welsh Secretary has complained — on Twitter, naturally — that the BBC's coverage of the event
dwelt too long on David Cameron and Nick Clegg, and ignored Ed Miliband. "BBC airbrushing Labour like the Palace?" he asked leadingly. The Tory minister David Jones has since admonished him, "time, place, Peter."
If Labour have much sense they'll play this down as efficiently as possible. Miliband, it is true, barely featured in the television coverage — but that's really beside the point. It is rarely smart politics to take on the Palace at any time. Yet on the day of the Royal Wedding it's just downright foolish. Hain's outburst may not have been the official party line, but he is still a shadow cabinet member, and his leader could have lived without this embarrassment.



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Sally Chatterjee
April 29th, 2011 1:20pm Report this commentDaft! Does he think a camera shot of a wedding guest will make people change support for a political party?
Once again Hain confirms his reputation as a grubby partisan.
Paddy
April 29th, 2011 1:22pm Report this commentThe country has seen.....and have had enough of New Labour!
jase
April 29th, 2011 1:29pm Report this commenttypical left, always moaning about trival things. never hear the right moan like the left do.
Tron
April 29th, 2011 1:29pm Report this commentI just love the fact that Brown'n'Blair weren't invited. The thought of Gordon being told that Maggie'n'Major were invited but he wasn't has cheered me up all week.
Clear Memories
April 29th, 2011 1:31pm Report this comment"BBC airbrushing Labour like the Palace?"
Cue incredulity. The BBC is Labours media arm and anti-monarchy to its core. And he need have no fear about Labour being overlooked - this nation will never forget or forgive the 13 years of spite, malice and incompetence that he was party to.
I guess he's smarting because of the absence of Bliar and Bruin but lets face it, would you want a money-grabbing war criminal, his offensive wife and a nose-picking Scots bigot at your family do?
Ed P
April 29th, 2011 1:36pm Report this commentLabour are like herpes - you think it's gone away, only for the nastiness to flare up again.
Hain is an unpleasant orange buffoon, with a knack for aiming at his own foot.
bojimbo
April 29th, 2011 1:39pm Report this comment" Calm down , dear " .
alexsandr
April 29th, 2011 1:41pm Report this commenthe could always f-off back to africa so we dont have to see his stupid smug orange face and hear his stupid utterances....
Michael O'Connell-Davidson
April 29th, 2011 1:42pm Report this commentWhat an absolute moron. Today wasn't a political event even in the slightest, the public don't care an ounce if Miliband's on the screen or not.
Nicholas
April 29th, 2011 1:42pm Report this commentTo be expected from this clown. As Labour represent the single biggest threat to everything we hold dear it is nothing less than appropriate that they are relegated on this special day. Their miserable po faces have no place at such a joyous event. They are the party of grim, grey apparatchiks and Red Square.
Message for The Orange One: It's not all about Labour, dear.
tomdaylight
April 29th, 2011 1:45pm Report this commentIt is properly mental that Peter Hain is in the shadow cabinet at all, given what happened last time. Speaks to the serious shortage of talent Ed Miliband's been able to garner on the Labour benches.
toco
April 29th, 2011 1:46pm Report this commentPeter Hain has always indulged in crude politics.Plus ca change.
Woody
April 29th, 2011 1:47pm Report this commentWhat stupid, stupid, nasty,inappropriate comments but so typical of Labour.
I daresay if Labour get in power again, they will get their revenge.
Rhoda Klapp
April 29th, 2011 1:51pm Report this commentBehind the mahogany exterior, in that tiny brain, there is nothing which is not politics. Idiot.
Of course it is not the palace which is to credit for the omission of Ed. The TV producer picks the pictures to show from what the various cameramen focus on. They tend to go for the interesting people. And that's why Ed wasn't on.
TrevorsDen
April 29th, 2011 1:59pm Report this commentAs Cameron said, in earlier delightful put down the sort of one which shows him to be refreshingly normal, 'too many twitters makes a twat'
stepney
April 29th, 2011 2:05pm Report this commentHas there ever been a more perfect example of Hain's repulsive vanity?
Peter, if you ever get round to reading these comments remember this:
IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU.
Bruce, UK
April 29th, 2011 2:19pm Report this commentArse - and on so many levels.
Baron
April 29th, 2011 2:28pm Report this commentThe creepy limpet should shut up, who wants to hear what he has to say.
You’ll kick me for it, that’s for sure, I dislike both of them as much as you do, probably more, the exclusion of the Blair&Brown couple was, however, a snub too far, they were in charge of the country, got voted in by many, the convention, the rules of the game required it for them to get the invite, ignored perhaps whilst there, humiliated by their placing in the corner somewhere, it may have made them feel humble, but aware of the magnanimity of spirit of the occasion, the same goes for the Syrian chap, why give him the brush when only few weeks ago the bald Yorkshireman rubbed shoulders with the top tyrant?
Jeremy
April 29th, 2011 2:37pm Report this commentHer Majesty is famously - and rightly - above party politics. This is important if the monarchy is to function as a unifying influence in our culture.
Bearing this in mind, my own feeling is that Blair and Brown must have done something to personally upset or offend the monarch in order to warrant their exclusion from today's Royal Wedding.
Labour and the republicans cannot have it both ways. They cannot behave in ways that deliberately spite, upset or humiliate the monarch, and then expect to be invited to royal occasions.
Why, in any case, would two republicans want to be invited to a Royal Wedding?
anne allan
April 29th, 2011 2:38pm Report this commentWhy on earth doesn't Hain go back to South Africa? He appears to loathe everything about this country - ah, of course, he's a typical Labour politician.
ROJ
April 29th, 2011 3:01pm Report this commentThis comment thread is just a stream of vilification of Peter Hain and in the interests of balance it is only fair to point out in his favour that, er, ... no. sorry, can't think of anything.
David
April 29th, 2011 3:17pm Report this commentYet another example of how utterly self-absorbed your average Labour politician is. Vain & whinging, they possess zero humbleness towards any occasion where they aren't centre stage. If this country is ever insane enough to vote this shower back in, they'll continue their hatchet job, with relish, on all that's still good here.
Nick
April 29th, 2011 3:17pm Report this commentWhy would the BBC bother showing Ed Milliband when they can show Elton John for yet another time.
stepney
April 29th, 2011 3:26pm Report this commentBlair, Brown = not Knights of the Garter. Not invited.
Simples.
On the plus side they could have been invited but were overlooked. A man who took the country into an illegal war aint going to be invited to an Army wedding anyway. And the goon who blew the economy to kingdom come isn't exactly the sort you want to reward in the sight of the viewing public either.
Whatever the reason it was a damned good decision by someone.
Baron
April 29th, 2011 3:27pm Report this commentNicholas, sir, I bow to your superior judgement on many a thing, here, you sailing too close to the wind looking from where I stand, one may, one does dislike most of what the contemporary Labour stands for, regretfully, one cannot dispose of either the corrosive, misguided ideology or of the fruitcakes carrying the disease unless one becomes what they stand for themselves.
am sticking to my view, both of the reviled characters should have been invited, sat next door to our friends from Zimbabwe, Saudi Arabia, China…. the TV cameras surveying their discomfort. The etiquette would have been served, the censure administered within it, the revenge for what they did to us that much more sweeter.
and another thing: was it the Palace booting them out? Methinks not what with Tony's recent conversion to the faith.
Boyders
April 29th, 2011 3:30pm Report this commentJames Callaghan was definitely there representing the Labour party.
More importantly it would have utterly destroyed Tony (Peoples Princess) Blair to not be there! I wonder if he and the Mrs stayed in to watch it?
Clear Memories
April 29th, 2011 4:06pm Report this commentBaron
April 29th, 2011 2:28pm
There is no place for balance or forgiveness where NuLabour are concerned - in any other nation on the planet they and their supporters would now be being rooted out and hung from lampposts. HM, perhaps more than any other, knows what these two presided over and it is right that she reflects, in a dignified but telling manner, what the majority of this nation feel about Blair and Brown.
I doubt Blair cares but I imagine (and dearly hope) that Brown and the wicked witch are truly, deeply hurt and offended.
As time passes, there will be no forgiveness, only a quietly growing anger that, hopefully, ensures Milliband, Balls et al never again see power and, indeed, that many more of them see the inside of prison cells.
Perhaps Hain might reflect on the vehemence and malice that constitutes this thread and quietly f*** off back to Africa.
Jannie Geldenhuys
April 29th, 2011 4:16pm Report this commentPresumably Angela Eagle and Harriet Harman are next going to accuse the wedding vows of being sexist?
David Ossitt
April 29th, 2011 4:51pm Report this commentThe man is a shit.
On a more pleasant note; a woman who mans a checkout at a Marks and Spencer food hall who we have come to know, said to us as we paid this week, “it has made my day, no it has made my year, when I heard that the chuckle brothers (Blair and Brown) were not invited.
She went on to say “I bet that the wicked witch is furious” no prize for guessing which wide mouthed harpy she was referring to.
TrevorsDen
April 29th, 2011 4:57pm Report this commentIf Cherie cannot be bothered to curtsey, and Tony has deserted to hob nob with the Pope, then why should the old slag be invited to a royal wedding?
Brown? Well that speaks for itself doesn't it?
Hepworth
April 29th, 2011 4:59pm Report this commentWell... I'm gobsmacked by the blatant cheek of this obnoxious oaf.
This fella, incompetent, (by his own admission as he "didn't realise" that donations of nearly 100,000 for a purpose were not supposed to rest in his personal bank account and be forgotten as he seems to have forgotten his criminal conviction and the fact that he was charged with bank robbery) Yet this obnoxious human being has clout in my country???
Nicholas
April 29th, 2011 5:10pm Report this commentBaron, I take your point, but my pendulum swings proportionately to that of New Labour and their gang. We need a period of relentless persecution of everything left and lefty - as the BBC's lefty "comedians" have done to the right for decades. A purge. A catharsis. As Clear Memories so rightly observes, they would be hanging from lamposts if there was any justice. The least I can do is offer them not a shred of balance, impariality or the fairness they gob on about so much but know nothing about.
Of all that repulsive, skin-creep crew, Hain is one of the worst. He seems to be on QT a lot, a dissembling, arrogant, egocentric reptile in human guise. As the camera panned across their front bench during Cameron's famous quip, I almost threw up. A row of mean, ghastly faces betraying so plainly the ugliness of their souls. And there amongst them, like an orange beacon to deceit, Hain. I'd happily see the lot of them put up against a wall and Britain would be the better for it. Cleansed.
annassasin
April 29th, 2011 5:11pm Report this commentNo bigger snob than a socialist snob. Hain is the worst of the lot. Imagine people walking out if Blair turned up. & mrs Brown again acting as chief bodyguard to Brown, who would guarantee rain. Does Hainsay queen is a bigot, imagine queen's expression when she finds out.
ollie
April 29th, 2011 5:17pm Report this commentPeople would have been repulsed if Miliband had been given air time. That's why he'll never be PM - he's not a middle Englander - he's a geeky student union cheerleader.
Fergus Pickering
April 29th, 2011 5:34pm Report this commentMy wife thinks that Blair and Brown are excluded because of their betrayal of the armed forces - invading all over the place (Blair) and then not giving them equipment (Brown). Since William and Harry are both fighting men I think she may have it. Tehy're lucky toget away with doors slammed in their faces. Hang the traitrous dogs!
Baron
April 29th, 2011 5:40pm Report this commentNicholas, Clear Memories, boys, am back in the fold, I’ve e been of two minds anyway, the wife disagreed, you see, not any more, it was better for the wedding to have the two creatures, who hijacked Labour then wrecked the country, sulking, raging in the privacy of their abodes, agreed.
and as far as the kicking of the left crowd goes, I’ve been always as willing as you to oblige, no fear on that score.
Occasional Ostrich
April 29th, 2011 5:42pm Report this commentBryan Gould had the sense to return to his origins before Labour ever tasted government.
TGF UKIP
April 29th, 2011 5:47pm Report this commentI would have thought it helped Labour a great deal by the camera being absent from weird visage and so, it would seem, did the BBC.
From the Tories' point of view, probably quite a pity, as it could well have been a Redwood moment when the congregation were singing.
Captain Christy
April 29th, 2011 6:20pm Report this commentClear Memories
To prove the BBC anti-royal bias, did anyone here Radio 5 Live Sheila Fogarty's interview outside the Abbey with James Hewitt about his affair with Diana? TIME and PLACE !!!
Gary Williams
April 30th, 2011 2:12am Report this commentEd who?
Dennis Churchill
April 30th, 2011 11:01am Report this commentLabour’s weakness is their Tin Ear for popular British, in particular English, culture and values.
Possibly because of the rather shallow roots in this country of many of them they seem puzzled by the natives.
The Conservatives should study and exploit this, maybe Cameron’s “spontaneous” anti-P.C crack at Eagle was the beginning.
If the BBC is considered a serious threat neuter it. In these hard times a reduction in the licence fee would be appreciated.
dapplegrey
April 30th, 2011 12:52pm Report this commentHain is a republican. Why was he watching a wedding which he disapproves of?
Nicholas
April 30th, 2011 12:55pm Report this comment@ Dennis Churchill I agree wholeheartedly. Cameron needs to give the leftist PC mob the verbal equivalent of Napoleon's whiff of grapeshot to the Paris mob and keep giving it. I am so fed up with the hold these people have on this country and the gobshite they come out with. It requires a sustained assault and sustained civil disobedience of all their petty rules, regulations and red tape.
John Bowman
April 30th, 2011 3:24pm Report this commentEd Milliband was in shot loads of times it's just that hardly anyone knows what he looks like and who he is.
alexsandr
May 1st, 2011 1:26pm Report this commentand then on marr this morning after laughing about marrs hypocracy re super injunctions, we had lipman and sharma chuntering on about how it was wrong blair and brown were not there. They were not there becase the hosts didnt want them there, cos they are shits.
Minekiller
May 3rd, 2011 4:06pm Report this commentWhat do you really expect from this venal trash? It has been quite a bank holiday weekend period....Royal Wedding, which was great then the slotting of Allah the Bed Linen and then when you think nothing more amazing can happen, St Tony Bliar beloved peacemaker to the Middle East (currently aflame) pops up on the BBC (mais naturellement) to give us his words of wisdom of the death of Bed Linen....but hey, thank god Peter Hain is keeping abreast of the important stuff......
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