Jihadi Denial Syndrome reaches epidemic proportions

Joe Louderback

It wasn't at "Fort Worth."

ed hall

Don't worry, I'm sure Barack Hussein Obama will be leading from the front.

logdon

The madness has begun.

It's like a bad dystopian novel where the nightmare never ends and all objective honesty is curtailed by an overarching all encompassing faceless entity.

The protagonist is screaming, he's behind you yet they don't listen, blinded by the security blanket of falsity and the doctrine of moral equivalence.

Orwellian is an overused term, as is Kafkaesque, but who could argue with those visionary's when we are confronted by the msm's indifference to what is staring them in the face.

The agonised frustration of Lt. Colonel Ralph Peters is so palpable in this clip, it oozes from his pores, yet Bill Reilly plows the furrow of least resistance, almost wilfully blind to what is going on.

This absolute craziness is leading to a whole new ball game.

Remember America has a second amendment, the right to bear arms.

Ironically, in view of what's happening now, designed to aid militias and to prevent the state overwhelming it's citizens, the time is fast approaching where that state is bullshitting its citizens and browbeating them into serf like submission to the orthodoxy's of pc.

The tea parties rained on B. Hussein's little parade. They spoke out in unequivocal terms that they, the Americans who populate America are the enfranchised, that they do care and do have a a say.

Disparaged and sneered at by the Pelosi's and rich, corrupt and controlling Democrats they still stuck to the message. A message so powerful that Obamacare is now in the doldrums.

This is the worst atrocity on US soil since 9/11 yet Obama cannot even give it clear priority in his first speech following the event. He prefered a Native American â˜shout outâ™.

Something is so wrong, so deadly wrong with that one single act of defiance against his own military and by extenuation, country, we have to seriously doubt this shyster's every future word.

It seals our suspicions and you can bet it's not lost on that vast majority of patriotic Americans.

Hereâ™s a voice expressing what all sane and informed people are thinking.

Lt. Col. Ralph Peters to Bill O'Reilly: Ft. Hood Shooter Major Hasan Is An Islamic Terrorist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCY1lsJg8zs&feature=player_embedded#

TomTom

Melanie: Fort Worth is where D/FW Airport is located and together with Dallas is Metroplex. Fort Hood is the biggest US military base of 340 sq. miles near Killeen 90 miles away.

It does remain unclear why he could register guns if he had been deployed from Virginia to Texas without Base Commander being informed. He is after all working on a base where soldiers are unarmed.

Then again Denial is a powerful blindside to facilitate every disaster. What you should know you don't want to know.

YA

That form of moronic Islam that this guy suffered, is clearly incompatible with Western moral.

1300 years old history of Islamic death cult, and no genetic consequences? Sorry I don't believe it. Briefly said, what we Westerners qualify as psychotic behavior, is genetically fixed survival asset in retarded societies. In criminal underclasses, the moral code resembles tribal order. It isn't coincidence that jails are favorite places for Muslim radical recruitment.

In my view, the only viable model that might minimize loss of human lives from both sides, is physical separation. These idiots should be deported and setteld somewhere far from civilization, - call this place International Sharia Zoo, or Free Chalipha Territories, or whatever. Afghanistan, Gaza strip? - OK why not. That territory should be isolated, fenced, monitored, put under strict arms embargo; only police and hunting weapons should be allowed in. No people out.

Or these orks enslave us all (and that is a goal they don't even try to hide), or we find a solution how to sort them. It is known that MI5 has lists of several thousands of that type of Islamic patients. Just declare them all persona non grata and deport them. Do it in coordination with Europe. Way better than the war that they already start on our territory, in our streets.

Humans deserve world free of cannibalism, human scarifices, and slavery. Why don't we deserve Islam-free world?

Ian

Logdon - thanks for that. When was the last time you heard such views voiced through the UK media?

I think it took the best part of a day before I even heard this guy was a muslim on the BBC.

They were still naval gazing for most of the day, pontificating on the motive, when a 5 minute trawl of the web would have given anyone seeking an objective view, of why this happened.

All this an £800 tax-payer funded news machine??

Frank P

logdon

Agree with all your sentiments bar one - just one little quibble! I thought O'Reilly midwifed Peters' assertions with great skill; his show of 'balance' was just going through the motions. Wasn't it? He does this all the time. He left us in no doubt in the end of his support for the Lt Colonel's views.

His gentle 'qualifications' were hardly an interrogation by a non-believer.

I understand your concern; because if even you bridled over it then some may have given some credence to the equivocation around Hasan's motivation. But those who did are a lost cause anyway and are on the wrong side.

Melanie

Thanks for breaking your weekend early. I was looking forward to your take on this latest atrocity perpetrated by the US jihadist; one of the many dispersed among us prepared to strike at random to hasten the return of the Caliphate.

Excellent piece and not in the least 'nasty' - was it? :-)

Dixon

"logdon
November 8th, 2009 2:14pm
The madness has begun.

It's like a bad dystopian novel where the nightmare never ends and all objective honesty is curtailed by an overarching all encompassing faceless entity."

Actually, its exactly like "Invasion of The Bodysnatchers", where Our Mel, Robert Spencer, Mark Steyn and a few other people are frantically trying to warn people who simply refuse to believe.

Having said that, it isnt at all like "Invasion of The Body Snatchers". Because most ordinary people do believe, in fact dont need to be told. They can see it for themselves. But its only the deluded "sophisticated" fools of our political-media "elite" who are in denial.

But even they are beginning to acknowledge.

Frank P

Quote from Jim Treacher's Twitter:

If this idiot had been wearing an "I KILL UNBELIEVERS 4 ALLAH" t-shirt, they'd still be going, "Whuh-whuh-why did he do this?"

h/t Gerard on American Digest blog.

Grelisoski

The government tell us one thing like "Islam religion of peace" the muslims tell us something else like Allahu Akbaru we hate you dirty kafirs we want to kill you all, which one to trust?
the lefty jihadi denials or
the jihadists
I don't know

gareth

It has to get a lot worse before things change for the better. The MSM is still gunning for Israel - "because it's the right thing to do" on the left.
We're still living very much in the comfortably warped world of Chomsky and Fisk.

Terry, Eilat - Israel

For the Politically Correct Morally Equivalancy Multi-Culturalist Brigade, well, they wouldn't notice a herd of elephants rampaging down Fifth Avenue. Nothing like willful blindness & ideological blinkers to obfuscate reality.
Can anyone wonder why the mainstream media has zero credibility? This goes far beyond their usual brain-dead spins, however.

Augustus

In this left-liberal politically correct world there are two taboos which may not speak their names. The first is the idea that Islam could be used to justify violence by Muslims against non-Muslims. This must be denied at all costs. Now this isn't only a socialogical mistake, it is also a political one, as it leads to a security risk. How can we assess terrorist motives if the risks can't be mentioned?
In order to maintain this deception all manner of excuses are thought up: Hasan's attack has nothing to do with Islam because Christians also attack people. Timothy McVeigh is cited
as an example. But this argument
is false. It's not the religion of the culprit which counts, it's the flag under which he operates. McVeigh was innocent in this regard because he said,
'I sort of lost touch with God'
whereas Major Hasan's 'Allah akbar!' speaks for itself.

The second taboo is to acknowledge that human beings carry a responsibility for their
own actions. The media doesn't
treat Hasan as someone who was capable of choosing between good
and evil, and chose evil. Why didn't go on hunger strike, for example? Instead he is turned into a motiveless robot, because
under the circumstances it's only natural that such a 'well-
mannered and nice man' should murder people. The fault lies not with the robot, but with the creators of circumstances,
i.e. America.

So what's the reason for these taboos? The answer is that the first is arrived at through fear
of discrimination. Criticizing Islam is tantamount to racism.
And the second taboo stems from neo-Marxism: Man is a victim of
the system. Both taboos are the results of a socialist world view. That's why it's quite reasonable to speak of left-wing
journalism, and left-wing BBC bias. The BBC pretends to be independent. That's not so, and its often illogical and one-sided reporting is immoral.

logdon

I've posted this url before but in view of this blatant example of Islamic aggression here goes, again.

http://www.thethirdjihad.com/911stream/911stream.php?utm_source=a7&utm_medium=email&utm_content=911stream&utm_campaign=911_A7

There's a book, Islamic Imperialism by Ephraim Karsh, which details the expansive determination of this faith.

The First Jihad ended at Poitier with Charles Martel, (Charles the Hammer) defeating and routing Muslim forces in Europe.

The Second ended at Vienna and eventually all Islamist forces were removed and indeed all Muslims were either expelled or killed by a populace heartily sick of living as dhimmis under a barbaric yoke.

That's the nutshell.

One of the winning tactics was to utilise or steal the technologies of war from infidels. Gunpowder, fire arms, cannon, mangonels, siege tactics, mining, all pressed into service.

Nothing has changed, only this time the weapon of choice is our liberality.

This is the Third Jihad.

Our political correctness. Our willingness to give the ‘other’ the benefit of the doubt, like a faultline, ruthlessly exploited.

We wring hands. They gloat and the Arab street and their West hating mullah’s pour out a constant tide of vitriol against the unbeliever, especially the US, Jews and believe it or not England.

The disparity could not be starker yet those who should be informing and defending cower like little girls, covering themselves in a shroud of self righteous evasion and dissimilitude.

When this story broke on BBC news the description of Hasan ended with, ‘who happens to be a Muslim’.

Who happens to be a Muslim? Who happens to be a Muslim? What is wrong with these people? When will they actually get it? It was because he was a Muslim.

That’s why he did it. End of story.

Only it isn’t.

As his recovery completes we’ll be treated to such hair wrenching tales of PTSD. And victimisation. And all the false justification these self loathers can pull out of their bottomless pits of pity until there’s not one scrap of reality left.

Our only salvation lies with the Melanie’s and Spencer’s who are here to remind us that sanity still survives.

Just about.

Bathus

Perhaps the most revolting aspect of this series of events is that, as a psychiatrist at Walter Reed hospital, Hasan was allowed to inflict his Islamist claptrap upon injured Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans. (And yet the MSM apparently wants us to feel sorry for Hasan because he was supposedly teased about his religion!)

logdon

Frank P
November 8th, 2009 3:15pm

I understand what you're saying, Frank.

This was one of the breaking reports and I was concentrating on the Lt. Colonel's view rather than the predictable 'ballance' even of a pretty much on-side reporter.

I wonder how they found him or did he, out of a desire to set the record straight, go to them?

I'd like to see how Glen Beck would have handled this. Or Ann Coulter for that matter.

Gracy Fields

Well the signs were there for all to see, weren't they! But no. It can't be militant Islam at work here - neah..the poor chap must be suffering from shell shock instead. Oh, Mel BTW, please put your 'report this comment' option back on or else Ms Patricia Shaw will be after you, waving her "it's so unfair' banner and making use of other blogs to rubbish you.

Tancred

Churchill was right when he said:-

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy."

When, oh when, will will the West wake up to what is going on.

I fear that the only hope for the West is to expel ALL Muslims
as we know that peaceful parents can spawn dangerous terrorists.

We will never know peace as long as they live amongst us.

Augustus

According to Ralph Peters at the New York Post, "it was political correctness that killed those patriotic Americans at Fort Hood as surely as the Islamic gunman did."

I have endeavoured to explain why, but my comment was moderated out. Suffice to say that there are taboos which may not be spoken of, and that this man's shouting 'Allah akhbar!' is a clear sign of his motive.

A few years ago Daniel Pipes coined the phrase 'sudden jihad'
to describe sudden murderous rampages and actions by otherwise normal people driven by Islamic impulses. This is what seems to have happened at Fort Hood.

Nordheim

Debbie, it's pretty bad here, too. The Left is screaming down any attempts to point out Jihad, and BHO is busy looking the other way. Good luck to all of us.

Nordheim

Melanie, it's pretty bad here, too. The Left is screaming down any attempts to point out Jihad, and BHO is busy looking the other way. Good luck to all of us.

Peter A

Thanks logdon for the youtube interview at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCY1lsJg8zs&feature=player_embedded#
Everyone should check it out.It says it all.

Sergey

Augustus, one thing, it seems, deserves to be mentioned: the man is a cultural mutant. He was socialized twice: first, in his Arab Palestinian family, and second, in his adult life in college, Army, etc., as a regular American middle-class guy. Since these two cultures are fundamentally at odds, there is a basis for a serious internal conflict of norms and values. Under stress, an infantile regression results in ressurection of the first, primitive set of norms and values, and we all know what this set means for a Palestinian: a primitive rage and uncontrolled violent outbreak. This can be a general pattern of psychodynamics behind Sudden Juhad Syndrom. If this is true, we can expect such rampages from every person with such background.

rogerinflorida

logdon, 4.01pm
Some do get it, but they don't want to say it, because honesty about islam is a career killer. An honest analysis of the disaster of allowing millions of islamists to settle in western societies, and an appreciation of the danger of that action throws the whole multicultural, moral-equivalence, PC view into sharp relief as the utter nonsense that it is.

Roger H. Cook

The left has kept most of us unable to stop people like this islamic terrorst and other minorities who are criminals and or killers because of the lefts PC ideas .

Hostile Knowledge

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-us-obama-fort-hood,0,4648895.story
Obama praises diversity in military...

"Diversity" is the creation of "progressives" (socialists). It is a fruit called "peace and love,” but in reality it is a lethal poison designed to silence the heartbeat of a civilized society.

Look at Fort Hood. This is the reality of diversity. This is diversity in practice. And this is just one of an endless list of examples of the insanity of diversity. How many examples of tribulation and death will need to be suffered before a people are sufficiently warned?

Not only are progressives feeble-minded and insane; they are also evil to the core. Even now, as the families and loved ones of the fallen soldiers at Fort Hood are deep in mourning, the diversity crapweasels are already beginning to raise the specter of racial and cultural "intolerance" as reasons why Hasan lost his sanity and went on a killing spree.

Let's be clear. Islam has always been insane and it's been on a continuous killing spree for centuries, showing no signs of abatement in this modern time. In fact, its brutality and homicidal bent are only growing more intense. Embracing its adherents into a civilized society in the name of diversity is nothing short of suicide.

Those of us who treasure freedom must realize that our freedoms are currently under full assault on every imaginable front. Depravity is represented by evildoers as goodness and humanity, while morality is excoriated as being vile and wicked. These kinds of values are served up by the fascist wing of socialism. You may call them “CommuNazis.”

That every logical notion of sanity is now turned on its head should give all of us serious pause about the dire consequences we all face. It is surely true that those of us who do not or will not remember history are condemned to suffer under its repetition.

John Richardson

Sergey 5:27pm

If you analysis made sense there would be similar such violent outbreaks as 'Fort Hood' every 20 minutes.
Think it through mate.
There may be 3-5 million Muslims in the UK and France alone who fall into the lose category you describe.
So where is the mayhem ?
For example, what about backward
African-Tribal/secular-liberal culture clash causing terrorism ?
It don't.African tribalism is probably even more racist and violent than Islam. So why arn't THEY thrashing out with bombs against an alien secular world ?
Intellectually your analysis might seem a coherent construct, but in reality it makes about as much sense as other racial/religious
'There all in it together even if they don't know it' Global Conspiracy Theories.Sieg.

Even the real and growing anti-semitism in our society is most virulent among the educated Godless 'liberals' than among the Muslims.

Civilisation is under attack.That is for sure. Our enemies are evil. Yet who is ACTUALLY taking away our freedoms ?
As they say 'Look Behind You'.

LRaven

Count Google amongst those with the Jihadi Denial Syndrome. FreeRepublic has worked tirelessly to remove illegal propaganda (terrorist videos) from the halls of their child YouTube. Google gives lip service. Dept of HLS despite short spurts of outrage does nothing about it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2381220/posts

DavidO

Perhaps what we are dealing with here is not "Jihadi Denial Syndrome" at all but "Jihadi Dissimulation Syndrome".

It's a scary thought but perhaps our "betters" know exactly what is going on and are happy with it because it is part of the "plan".

It sounds like a paranoid fantasy, I know, but isn't it just as plausible as the belief that so many highly educated, highly intelligent, politicians and media commentators could be so stupid.

After the Neather revelations, nothing would surprise me about our treacherous ruling elite.

Woody

I complained to the BBC today about their 6pm TV World News coverage of the Fort Hood shootings. This is a big running story, yet when a US Army officer had made a statement about the incident and asked reporters to put questions, the film was cut abruptly. The BBC didn't want us to hear those questions, possibly because it might offend Muslims, followers of Islam, "the relgion of peace".

sebastian

I suppose what distinguishes this mass murder from many others that the US has suffered is that it's no ordinary crazed gunman. It appears, instead, to have a religious motive. There's a "philosophy" behind it. Much like that which persuaded an American marine to throw grenades among his own fellow soldiers. Like the 9/11 attacks. Like the London and Glasgow attacks. Like the Madrid bombings. All with a religious dimension that makes them more than mere criminal deeds. Separate locations; different times; but same creed. Same determination to kill infidels with holy glee. And that religion? Mohammedism. At least, that's what we think. That's what the perpetrators think. That's their boast. But there are mohammedans who dispute this. On the contrary, they argue, this has nothing to do with the religion of peace at all. So one group says it's an islamic deed driven by duty to al'lah; others say the opposite. Muslims sincere but muslims disunited. Unable to agree about what their peculiar beliefs actually require of them or will approve but all righteous to the marrow anyway.
And it's this conflict, this paradox or inconsistency between self-declared mohammedans subscribing to the profession of tolerance, that is the most troubling for it makes any sort of coherent or consistent address of it impossible. If mohammedans can't agree about what all this is - an excuse for a killing spree or something else entirely - what chance have the rest of us got?
So we don't know what we're up against; or where it's believers' loyalties really lie. Their doubts about themselves become our collective uncertainties about how to engage with them. Their own intrinsic religious schizophrenia where it can be one thing as easily as another thing, is disconcertingly foisted on us. In tormenting itself with an identity crisis, it torments all around it.
This killer will face the law. If the courts are sensible, they'll deny him the chance of gruesome martyrdom by lethal injection. Under his rules, such death would be a gift. Don't give that to him.
But more than the issue of how the law should sensibly react, is that of how we should respond to islam. We're still working that one out. In the meantime though, more utter scepticism and a greater willingness to see it as the twisted and troubled system it really is, would be entirely in order.

Chris

TF for Twitter! I was up late when the shooting happened and straight away turned to Twitter for news. I guessed right away what kind of attack this was. While the liberals started soul-searching about stress & PTSS (the guy hadn't even served overseas) his name appeared on Twitter and confirmed my suspicions ('Malik Nadal Hussian: unlikely to be Amish' quipped one tweet).

Meanwhile we're told 'Don't jump to conclusions' at the same time as hearing the killer shouted 'Allah Akbah'.

The establishment must think we're all completely stupid. Please.

logdon

DavidO
November 8th, 2009 6:49pm

And talking of Neather here’s yet another blockbuster.

Will the Speccie cold shoulder this one as well? Or will it now dawn that all is not well in our multicultural paradise?

We should be told.

By the way, I’ve mailed it to The Speccie, Melanie, Miliband, Woolas, The Lib Dems, Con Home and other related media outlets.

Let’s see who picks it up and runs with what is the worst tale of social engineering for political gain I’ve ever heard of.

Jack Straw must be shamed and dismissed.

Here are the key paragraphs.....

“Whiff of a smoking gun

Why did new Labour secretly open Britain’s borders, while pretending to control the numbers under its so-called “managed migration” policy?

Two weeks ago Andrew Neather, a former speechwriter for Tony Blair, wrote an article saying Labour had allowed immigration to rocket in order to turn Britain “truly multicultural” and “to rub the right’s noses in diversity”.

The heart of his claim was that uncontrolled mass immigration had been a deliberate, covert policy to change the country’s demographics.

But Labour’s core vote, the white working class, were drawn to the BNP at the resulting pressure on jobs, homes and schools.

Alan Johnson, the home secretary, has said Labour was “maladroit” on the issue: the immigration door was left wide open because of “cock-up” not a “conspiracy”. But Neather’s account may be only half the story.

Chris Mullin, a former minister, recalled in his memoirs that ministers had “barely touched the rackets that surrounded arranged marriages . . . terrified of the huge cry of ‘racism’ that would go up

. . . There is the added difficulty that at least 20 Labour seats, including Jack (Straw’s), depend on Asian votes”.

With up to 80% of ethnic minorities voting Labour, it is obvious that the more immigrants who get the right to vote, the greater is Labour’s electoral share. Perhaps Mullin has stumbled on a smoking gun. “

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6907991.ece

eddie

"This is the same Guardian that, week in, week out, runs mendacious or distorted pieces about Israel which contribute to a climate of frenzied hatred of Israel and its Jewish supporters which results in dramatic spikes in the number of attacks on British Jews."

Apropos of this, I'm not Jewish so I don't usually read The Jewish Chronicle. This week, however, I was in a dentist's surgery where there was a copy.

And what should my eye fall on but one Peter Oborne. A man whose newspaper column always goes face up in our cat litter tray, about the only decent use for it. I shall wait to see what's in his documentary to see if it contains the kind of drivel he parades in print

www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/21629/channel-4-defends-israel-lobby-probe

Sergey

John Richardson: What proportion of these 3-5 mln Muslims are Arabs? Most are Turks, Paki or Afgani. Wahhabi Islam (the most virulent strain) is Arab speciality: they turn Islam into vechicle of Arab supremacism. And among Arabs only "Palestinians" developed such vicious death cult, far above usial level of aggressiveness even among Arabs. This I call suspicuous background. As for African tribalism, it, unlike Islam, is not expansionist: no African tribe has a grand project of world domination, while Muslims have. One should rank barbarians by level of danger they pose to civilization: the least dangerous are peaceful tribal heathen, more dangerous are Muslims of non-Arabian descent, even more dangerous are Arab Muslims, and the most rabid are Palestinians, brainwashed to have Jihad as the only national idea justifying their very existence (this group simply had not any idea of their specific identity only 40 yers ago).

YA

In the recent time, there were 4 major stories, all related to strategic gains of anti-Western jihad:

1) Neather-gate,

2) Final rejection of nuclear talks by Iran

3) Interception of huge Iranian arms cargo in Mediterranean

4) Fort-Hood massacre

Media ignores or downplays all this with dogged persistence. That's freaking treason and we simple people should do something about it. Only to ignore Guardian and Independent isn't enough.

Just to capitalize.

The key mechanism of jihadi penetration is Islamic (Iranian, Saudi) funding of British educational, religious, financial institutions.

Another problem is Government sponsorship of Islamic privileges and "anti-terrorist" "alternatives", - AKA jizziya payments to Islamic establishment.

Yet another problem is "international support" to do-gooders like Sudan, Somalia and PA, - a jizziya to foreign jihad.

Yet another problem is immigration of relatives from Somalia, Pakistan and alike. This nightmare, a flood of Islamic savages, is hanging over Britain and nobody knows what is the status of it.

And certainly there is jihadi bribery and intimidation of media, suppression of free speech; censored, semantically and lexically engineered broadcasts. One of the aims is PC-leveraged incapacitating of law-enforcement.

Spring elections are in 6 months. Send letters to local MPs. Demand clear explanation on these issues, by points.

Oh and I disagree Serge, that guy isn't cultural mutant. Rather cultural atavism, a caveman, a cannibal. If we don't act now, this stuff will continue to arrive in massive amounts. And believe me they won't have problems with arms. Mediterranean as I said, is stuffed by container ships full of guns and ammo, and nobody knows who's the owner. Just one such shipment would be enough to ignite the country. To ignore this danger today, is to invite jihadi war on British soil tomorrow.

roger in florida

John Richardson 6.28pm
Perhaps you should be the one to think it through. This is not an isolated incident, we have had three terror plots foiled in the last month where muslims, living in th US have plotted mass murder against their fellow citizens. We have hundreds of attempts at terror in the last 20 years, some successful, most not, thankfully. Look at the international situation where thousands of people have been killed by islamist terrorists. This trend is increasing; we will have a situation soon where a terrorist sponsoring nation, Iran, will have nuclear weapons and will undoubtedly distribute them to terrorist groups. You write as if this act was an aberration, it is not. As for "moderate" muslims, they are the muslims who cannot be bothered but when asked routinely give 75% support to terrorists.
Wake up mate!

Alan Knell

May I suggest 'falsader' instead of 'jihadi' to mean a muslim holy warrior?
The analogy is with crusader, from crux, cross; falsader, from falx, crescent, is then a good match.

Frank P

Mark Steyn NRO (8th November 2009)

>Degrees of Separation

Step One:

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.

Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas...

Step Two:

Danquah assumed the military’s chain of command knew about Hasan’s doubts, which had been known for more than a year to classmates in a graduate military medical program. His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan’s "anti-American propaganda," but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal written complaint.

Step Three:

Thinking Anew—Security Priorities for the Next Administration

A coherent strategy to address 21st century threats to the United States, one that treats national and homeland security as a seamless whole, has yet to emerge... To help fuel this process, in April 2008 The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute (HSPI) established the Presidential Transition Task Force, comprised of national and homeland security experts, policymakers and practitioners... The goal was to determine the top strategic priorities to advance the nation’s security in the coming decade...

Event Participants:

...Amanda Halpern
U.S. House of Representatives

Beth Hampton
Homeland Security Institute

Nidal Hasan
Uniformed Services University School of Medicine

Donald Hawkins
U.S. Department of Homeland Security

Eric Heighberger
Homeland Security Council...

That's quite the company for a deranged misfit loner whacko of no broader significance.

I believe it was Derb a few months after 9/11 who said that for this new struggle our watchword was "Better screwed than rude." Major Hasan represents the institutionalization of that attitude. Thirteen people are dead, dozens more will live with their injuries for the rest of their days, and a lot of families have had a great big gaping hole blown out of their lives because of it.

Anwar al-Awlaki and his chums have bet that such a society is too sick to survive. Watch the nothing-to-see-here media driveling on about pre-post-traumatic stress disorder like gibbering lunatics in a padded cell , and then think whether you'd really want to take that bet.

11/08 02:48 Degrees of Separation [Mark Steyn]
Step One:

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.

Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas...

Step Two:

Danquah assumed the military’s chain of command knew about Hasan’s doubts, which had been known for more than a year to classmates in a graduate military medical program. His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan’s "anti-American propaganda," but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal written complaint.

Step Three:

Thinking Anew—Security Priorities for the Next Administration

A coherent strategy to address 21st century threats to the United States, one that treats national and homeland security as a seamless whole, has yet to emerge... To help fuel this process, in April 2008 The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute (HSPI) established the Presidential Transition Task Force, comprised of national and homeland security experts, policymakers and practitioners... The goal was to determine the top strategic priorities to advance the nation’s security in the coming decade...

Event Participants:

...Amanda Halpern
U.S. House of Representatives

Beth Hampton
Homeland Security Institute

Nidal Hasan
Uniformed Services University School of Medicine

Donald Hawkins
U.S. Department of Homeland Security

Eric Heighberger
Homeland Security Council...

That's quite the company for a deranged misfit loner whacko of no broader significance.

I believe it was Derb a few months after 9/11 who said that for this new struggle our watchword was "Better screwed than rude." Major Hasan represents the institutionalization of that attitude. Thirteen people are dead, dozens more will live with their injuries for the rest of their days, and a lot of families have had a great big gaping hole blown out of their lives because of it.

Anwar al-Awlaki and his chums have bet that such a society is too sick to survive. Watch the nothing-to-see-here media driveling on about pre-post-traumatic stress disorder like gibbering lunatics in a padded cell , and then think whether you'd really want to take that bet.<

Bravissimo!

Baron Pipin II

Melanie & co.

Am with you on the case, but from a marginally adjusted angle. What could the authorities do to un-deny? Publicly very little, I’m afraid, for fear that innocent Muslims may get hurt in a big way. You can hardly deny that there are innocent Muslims living amongst us, Muslims who want to get on with their lives, and have not the slightest intention to wage jihad on anyone. The hope must be that out of the public eye, those agencies charged with our safety keep sharp eye on the ball 24/7.

On the other point, I’m a full subscriber. The evil of political correctness, and the rest of the pseudo-liberal package, has been semi-institutionalized to such a degree that even those who unleashed the monster are beginning to run scared of it, e.g. the case of Trevor Philips. Once the flow of the poison penetrates the agencies of the government, the public institutions, the media, and the society at large, it becomes virtually impossible for any one individual or an institution to do much about it. The infected body cannot but reject any healthy part. Those objecting lose their jobs, are denied publicity, or even taken to courts.

Lee Jakeman

"Worse still, the FBI and other counter-terrorism agencies had been influenced by their appeasement-minded British cousins in the security world".

Frankly, I doubt that their intelligence services are EVER influenced by ours. In their eyes, we hardly exist.

More likely this was due to the typically cocksure American "it couldn't happen over here" mentality - with its consequent complacency.

Ruth Skidmore

Poor Muslim Major is a victimn of U S discrimination and as a victimn has the right to shoot down our militart men & women?
How quickly the news jumps out to tell us here how we are to understand his motives and not blame the Muslim religion. How long is this to continue both in the U S and other western countries? I think they can shove it up rthrit smelly back sides. Enough is enough.

David, Caliphornia

Don't forget, it's longstanding media practice not to overdo reportage on gun sprees (all too common here), so as not to glamorize the fame, which might then excite copy cats.

Brian O'Connor

Mel wrote:

The BBC tried to close off any possibility that this was a jihadi attack . . .

Indeed. The author of the BBC article (Mardell) is quoted at the link as

Still, searching for patterns and for answers is part of what it is to be human. I loathe cliche, but perhaps, for once, this is a "senseless tragedy", devoid of deeper meaning. .

For Mr. Mardell, here's how terrorism-by-proxy works. Is it a pattern? I know what I think . . .

You have a firebrand messiah pushing some sort of ideological or religious cause. It could be an anti-abortion zealot targeting abortion doctors; an animal rights fanatic targeting the owner of a guinea-pig farm; a radical Islamic priest, or some other nut job proclaiming that any act in the name of The Cause is justifiable "because . . . ".

Our High Priest might even suggest violent ways in which The Faithful should serve The Cause (to prove their purity and worthiness), and identify targets (groups or specific individuals).

It is then left to some anonymous, inadequate, angry personality to find the road to redemption in the messiah's words: at last, he can do something to satisfy his anger, extract revenge and give moral meaning to his life. Having found his cause, he self-identifies as a holy warrior, selects his target, plans his course of action and commits the deed.

Our messiah knows exactly what he's up to, though he might never even have heard of the perpetrator who he moves to murder.

The BBC and other PC organs will never see the link.

GeoffM

Can anyone imagine what may have happened in WW2 had Churchill's Government, whilst fighting Hitler, been allowing uncontrolled German immigration to Britain?

What may have happened if the British people were punished for speaking out about Nazism and German immigrants given special treatment and an Equalities Quango to promote their interests, government funds and posts in Government and their beliefs/culture given equality with that of the British?

How about Nazi protests, with police protection but anti-Nazi sentiments branded "hate crime" followed by severe punishment.

How about the right to wear Nazi uniforms and celebrate Nazi ideology whilst banning any British celebrations for fear of offending the Germans?

I'll tell you. We would have lost.

Just like we will lose unless people start waking up.

Fast.

The atmosphere in the West is rank. The smell of defeat is in the air.

Not at the hands of Islamists.

No, at the hands of OUR OWN Quisling politicians.

Jon_Boy

I straight away noticed the way that the BBC and other news outlets were very quick to try and give the impression that the shooting wasn't Islamically inspired.

As soon as I heard about it I guessed it was a Muslim American serviceman.

And the news were desperate it wasn't and guess what my so called, 'ignorant' initial guess was exactly right.

They are now trying to say he did it because he was being bullied or because he did want to serve abroad. Talk about the media having an agenda.

If he was a white Christian serviceman who was known to be a member of a white supremacist group and had shot African Amercian fellow servicemen, would they be so quick to find excuses.

Would they say that he only did because they were bullying him and calling him Honky everday?

I concur with some on this blog and disagree with Melanie's own analysis that Islamic terrorism and expansionist ideas etc are not part of the mainstrean religion.

It is my own opionion that Islam whether Sunni or Shia is the most aggressive and confrontational mainstream world religion.

However I do no say that all followers of the religion are evil or bad people. That would be like a Manchester United fan claiming all Liverpool fans are evil.

Yet the only retort I ever hear to the opinion I hold is that it is a somewhow racist opinion.

I never get a reasoned argument to make me change my mind but just get told that my opinion is just racist and that even to hold mt opnion should be made illegal.

I almost fear that oneday our chattering classes will require me to go for 'specialreducation' for even having my opinion.

Noa Zrk

Alan Knell
November 8th, 2009 8:16pm

"May I suggest 'falsader' instead of 'jihadi' to mean a muslim holy warrior?
The analogy is with crusader, from crux, cross; falsader, from falx, crescent, is then a good match".
Our criminal justice system is already adequately developed to describe such people objectively, without inadvertently granting them any acknowledgment or false martyrdom status for their so-called cause. The terms, murderer, traitor and criminal are perfectly adequate. uncomprehesiv to Murdering, travc SSu

YA

just now read in google news:

"Army Chief of Staff Concerned for Muslim Troops": "New York Times"

(non-Muslim troops are, obviously, out of danger).

OK, at least it is informative -

1) US Army Chief of Staff
2) New York Times
3) google.co.uk

porkbelly

From today's New York Times:

Army Chief of Staff Concerned for Muslim Troops

General George Casey Jr., the Army chief of staff, said on Sunday that he was concerned that speculation about the religious beliefs of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, accused of killing 12 fellow soldiers and one civilian and wounding dozens of others in a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, could “cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers.”

“I’ve asked our Army leaders to be on the lookout for that,” General Casey said in an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union. “It would be a shame — as great a tragedy as this was — it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well.”

Gene Kinney

Thank you Melanie...and well said!

God bless you.

Gene Kinney Roswell, Ga.

daniel maris

Following on Brian O'Connor's point, you could go back to the early Nazis and find "personal" reasons for their motivation in every case: Goering's drug addiction, Goebbels' club foot, Hitler's frustration at his failure as an artist, Roehm's inability to accept his homosexuality etc etc. But such personal explanations are really beside the point - after all, they could equally motivate someone to climb Everest, joint a monastery, shout at their wife or be cruel to cats. What we - the citizenry - are interested in is what the movement is trying to achieve and how they are going about fulfilling their objectives.

Mardell has been mentioned. Nice roly-poly guy whom no one could dislike...but how desperate he was to discount Jihadism! And it is noticeable that having given his view: "a senseless tragedy" (makes you think of a meteorite falling on the Fort from the skies rather than an individual shooting down his comrades in cold blood)he hasn't been back yet to admit how far wide of the mark he was. Perhaps we should call him "Wide of the Mark" Mardell in future.

One thing we need to understand in the non-Islamic world (let's stop saying "the West" - sub-Saharan Africans, Indian Hindus and Thai Buddhists are being attacked with equal venom): Jihadism is a far more fluid movement, reflecting Islam's own somewhat amorphous quality. There is indeed nothing to stop an individual being inspired to commit Jihadi acts.

Merlyn

It seems form the Obama, lack of proper action, that he and the State of Europe are in cahoots over the Islamic presence.
The Times ran an article "Home Office covered up immigration risk"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6907991.ece
-in which it appears that the british government were actually knowingly letting in the Taliban and other undesirables to the UK. Well worth the read if you want your ears to steam.

Dixon

"John Richardson
November 8th, 2009 6:28pm
Sergey 5:27pm

If you analysis made sense there would be similar such violent outbreaks as 'Fort Hood' every 20 minutes."

Perhaps not every twenty minutes. It is in fact happenning every hour, globally. Unfortunately, ignorance of this must be forgiven for the simple reason that the media are careful to avoid reporting it. But Buddhists in Thailand and Indonesia, Hindus in India and Kashmir, as well as Christians world-wide are being murdered by Muslims for the reason that they are not Muslim at certainly more than the rate of one every hour.

In Thailand alone, Muslim "seperatists" have murdered 4000 Buddhist's among their own neighbours and community in the space of 4 years.The methodology is very distinctively Muslim. Commonly involving beheading. The principal targets are schoolteachers ( the most dangerous job in Thailand ) and school-girls.

Nor is anyone saying that this Jihadi mentality is even common among Muslims. which is where your argument chiefly falls down. Its just that, there being 1.2 billion muslims, if only 1% of them have such ideas, then thats a very big number.

Nor does it follow that because someone does not carry out acts of violence that they would not dream of doing so if they had not diverse factors ( family responsibility, own well-being ) to hold them back. Otherwise, there would be mayhem inflicted by the other side of the community divide as well!

simon

Very accurate reporting, keep up the good work.
I find it disgusting and very concerning that we allow these radicals into Western societies were they can openly practice their cult-like religion in Mosques and use our democratic freedoms and human-rights as protection well many of them advocate hate and violence against the very society in which they live.
Here in New Zealand there is a large Muslim international student population from Saudi Arabia which hold very radical views towards the West and, yes, blame the Jews for everything under the sun, its ridiculous. Reports from some secular New Zealand Muslims identify that there have/are radical teachings tacking place within parts of the New Zealand Muslim community which derive manly of Somalia refuges and Fijian-Indian ethnic identities. Personally, I do not see the migration of Muslims as a benefit to our Western societies as they fundamentally reject our values and they are vulnerable to radicalisation which many of the moderate Muslims ignore; this is sad but true and Islam needs to get its house in order before we even consider their migration into Western nations; thus the risk is to great and it is bad policy on the West’s behalf to otherwise.

tommy

Dr. Tawfik Hamid produced a little comic strip to educate-- perhaps our western governments should read it
http://www.tawfikhamid.com/pdfs/MrTolerance.pdf

Mr. Moloukiwawa

John Richardson did you say African tribal backwardness are not like muslims they are more racist and violence, don't even start, African tribes don't go out and hijack aeroplanes to attack tall buildings, they don't scream Allah Akbar while they are attacking civilians, please watch what you say and don't compare terrorists like Al-Qaeda and others to tribal African man

Mladen Andrijasevic

Freud's psychoanalytic couch at the Freud Museum, 20 Maresfield Gardens, London is the right photo to illustrate this madness. The Jihadi Denial Syndrome is ubiquitous. In Washington DC, President Obama is playing hard to get, although this is probably the last time Netanyahu would have the opportunity to meet Obama before Israel launches a preemptive strike against the Iranian nuclear sites. In this case Obama, in addition to the Jihadi Denial Syndrome, suffers from an additional - Mahdi Denial Syndrome. This denial syndromes have far reaching consequences: Benjamin Netanyahu has been pushed into the role of the leader of the free world. We have come to the point when there are only two outcomes. Either Israel destroys the Iranian nuclear sites or it gets nuked by a fanatical regime seeking the return of the Mahdi. Either way the US will have remained on the sidelines of history.

logdon

This may go some way into explaining Obama's reluctance to name a spade a spade.

What's Johnson's excuse?

www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

phil

Here is a letter in todays times and for my purposes I assume she is talking to the militants not the innocents that I constantly ask to stand up and say "not in my name "

This was written by a Canadian woman, but oh how it also applies to the U.S. , U.K. and Australia

THIS ONE PACKS A FIRM PUNCHPrime Minister!

Written by a housewife in New Brunswick , to her local newspaper. This is one ticked off lady...

'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?

Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from the capitol of the USA and in a field in Pennsylvania ?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible , the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan ..

I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.-""---------------------------

What I ask is how long must we go on before we accept that we are at war with these people ,they are not Muslims they are beasts without a morality and bring shame on the very religion and people they purport to represent.

Brian The Redeemer

Could he have been referring to Admiral Ackbar when he discovered that he'd fallen for the capitalist pigdog trap? The real Admiral knows when there's a trap!

Philo

And this is an insinuation not an argument. I think we can expect better:

"Oh I forgot; they are all just resistance fighters against Israeli oppression".

Merlyn

Agree with DavidO,
That many authority figures with university education, could not be that stupid.
It is all going to plan , their plan.

Alison Druti

Someone stole my bike few days ago, and I told a friend a lefty friend a thief stole my bike she start covering up that is what some lefties do lately she said he is not a thief but he saw your nice bike and took it, here the housewife from New Brunswick says this guys are not muslims they are beasts with out morality, of course they are muslims they pray like muslims, they dress like muslims, they eat Halal food, they come from muslim families, they read the Koran, they go to the mosque, yes, they are muslims, what else would they be?

Philo

YA
November 8th, 2009 2:47pm

I would be interested to know why contributors here find this acceptable. It surely falls well below the standard of civilized or rational discussion.

John Richardson

I've just read 'DavidO's comments.
Yep.
How about this....
" I know Tony Blair was a greedy dishonest National Traitor, but I do accept that what he told me about Islamic terrorism is all true. Though the Human Rights Industry he helped to create is the greatest impediment to actually stopping organised violence; I still accept his word or his appointed succesors word, regarding the nature of the threat.
Similarly, he and Bush Junior told repeated direct plain lies about invading another Country. Yet, I still do not think they lied about terrorism. Despite TB rewarding Irish Republican terrorists.
It taking years to deport avowed supporters of terrorism just shows what a civilised country we are. Though Tory Frontbench Spokesmen get arrested easier,I still accept the official story about 'the threat'.I agree The State should have my DNA though I have never committed a crime.
Oh, and it is necessary to protect me from Muslims that The State read all my E-mails."

Sign Here..................

Herbert Thornton

The west is infected with some sort of collective insanity - so much so that we live in an asylum run by some of its maddest inmates.

Mark Steyn is - like Melanie - one of the few journalists who perceive what is wrong. Mark's latest piece may, perhaps, jolt a few of the less deranged to a condition of better mental balance -

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/hasan-218107-maj-american.html

hadrian

One cannot but applaud your courageous and practically lone voice in this matter. As soon as reports started coming in and the name of the perpetrator made public it became clear not one TV Channel here was prepared to even think the unthinkable in proud multi-cultural Great Britain. I suppose we shall have to sink under Sharia before it actually dawns on our cretinous movers and shakers that you cannot play with fire and not get at least charred. Now forty odd people in the USA seem to have needlessly suffered because of the same mass denial. It is spiritual blindness of course at base. The Guardian's response is beneath contempt but drearily predictable

Marcus

Philo - the same has to be said to a large part of this blog, which has descended into rabid hatred of one religion and one group.Rational discussion is increasingly hard to find here.

phil

Alison Druti just for the record the last para was mine not the canadian lady

ArmyScout

The simple answer to all these idiots who commit suicide is that there is no life after death:

http://www.tudor.vc/tudor/rta.html

Tim Fellows

Well said Melanie.

Michael Hooper

I am not really a fan of you Melanie, however this article gets to the nub of the problem. We have been sleep-walking ourselves into allowing all types of immigrants into the U.K. without really checking out their credentials. The labour government has been social engineering our society with the objective of so called multi-culturalism. Many counties, including Russia, China, Pakistan, Indonesia to instance a few are suffering from Radical Islamist. So why are we still allowing Muslims into our once proud land. I worked for many years in the Middle East, and consider Islam a fine religion, but it does not fit into our free loving democratic system. It is considered politicly incorrect to raise these issues, even perhaps illegal. Yes Melanie, you are 100% correct to raise your concerns on this issue.

elfraed

The question now,for the odds takers, is: will the Army give him life in prison rather than make him a martyr;
or will the Army execute him for killing so many enlisted people?