Where are Cameron’s praetorians?

david1

Errr I don't suppose you've considered that the reason they won't defend Cameron is they don't trust or like him. Perhaps they are hoping this'll be the back of him.Then they can elect David Davis, get rid of the Libdems, and take their chance at a GE: just perhaps.

David Ossitt

"One minister told me earlier that Number 10 was having trouble getting people to go on TV to bat for the PM."

They do not like him.

TrevorsDen

On the other hand this is whats wrong with politics. Are not people complaining about politicians 'hitting the phone'?

Sue Collini

Has the Speccie not written previously that Cameron lacks any Praetorian guard, having alienated too many in his own party?

Chickens coming home and all that....

Collini out.

Walsingham's Ghost

And what does this tell you, James?...

Ian Walker

The absense of a counter-attack by Cameron seems more and more that it must be part of some grand strategy? The examples you give show that the party clearly knows how to operate in this situation, and unless he's somehow magically lost the support of everyone in the space of a fortnight (unlikely considering how craven and spineless some Tory MPs are)

Perhaps it's a case of conceding a small amount of ground on a matter that still doesn't bother the public much (they're much more worried about the bribery of police than the dinner guests of politicians; whom they already assume to be 'bent') in order to prop up the weak Ed Milliband until 2015.

PuppetMaster

It should also be noted that these are the people who know what he is really like. He doesn't even have his own troops behind him. Maybe the Tory party should elect somebody with life experience.

Hard Hearted Perry

'Number 10 needs to hit the phones ... and get able media-savvy MPs ... '

Steady on - first things first!

They're probably having their PR H2B-approved piccys took.

Woody

Perhaps this is more about their own ambitions, which is pretty disgusting and shows what low-life they really are.

saddleworth

The cowardly jobsworths that pass as conservative backbenchers sadly aren't bright enough to realise that if they won't defend their PM they won't keep their seats. Letting hysteria force him out will in all likelihood lead to an election and if there is one they will get slaughtered.
So, for what ever motivates them (jobs, expenses, free travel, personal vanity) they need to get off their backsides and fight. Or are they trying to tell us, by their silence that they think it would be better to have Liebour back. Mrs Rochester's rant in the last debate must have scared them, surely?

Scary Biscuits

The reason No.10 is struggling to find Tory MPs to defend him, is that none of them like him.

He failed to win an election against a near-lunatic. He failed to get a good deal from the Liberals and as a result his government is merely a continuation of New Labour, especially regarding Europe. Monetary and Fiscal policy remain essentially unchanged from when Gordon Brown was in power. Just last week Tory MPs were whipped hard to get them to vote for yet another bailout, for the IMF, that they fundamentally disagree with.

The Party Chairman has her job due to the colour of her skin and her religion rather than the traditional reasons of competence and merit.

Is it any wonder that nobody particularly cares for Cameron?

Jayu

James, the hackneyed line "it's all Labour's fault" as had its day.

Until Cameron gives his colleagues the definitive line to take, with regards to his integrity and judgement, they do not feel able to categorically defend him.

After all, that is what is, rightly or wrongly, being questioned

Mirtha Tidville

Seems its not just among Coffee Housers that Cameron isnt popular. Quelle Suprise!! Can he hang on??..lots of people shaking the tree but seems Tory MP`s might be joining them right now..

Oh yes please dont talk about Police corruption as if its something widespread..It isnt its the MET yet again!!!always have been and always will be. They dont represent British Policing and they never will.

AdviceFromASurfer

Miliband is surfing a huge wave that's still far out from the beach. You don't want your head chopped off by his surf board. But, like sometimes on Bondi beach or several other crowded surf places, you can always beat up the guy who 'stole' your wave once he has reached the beach.

RCE

"One minister told me earlier that Number 10 was having trouble getting people to go on TV to bat for the PM."

I do hope that is true, and that they all know what a sack-of-the-proverbial the man really is.

Ian Walker - so do you think that axeing our defence capabilities is part of some grand strategy as well?

Or how about pouring billions into the bank accounts of foreign officials (TrevorsDen calls this 'aid' and thinks it's brilliant, but can never explain how he knows it works)?

And maybe failing to win a majority, even over Gordon Brown?

Or what about performing embarassing u-turns on just about every policy that they try to introduce?

I can't wait for this grand strategy to be revealed, because it will be the best one since Themistocles, and I will be grateful to be alive to witness such a time.

Mirtha Tidville

Where`s Sayeeda Warsi???? Oh come on,dont you think Camerons in enough trouble..

Charles Martel

Why should the Tory MPs stick up for Cameron, when he isn't brave enough to stick up for himself?

He dodged it last week and left the feeble Mr.Hunt to face the rotting corpse of Ed Miliband's leadership of the opposition, actually making miliband look half sane.

And today, he flies out of the country and leaves a complete vacuum of leadership on this issue, which lets remember, was also entirely avoidable by not hiring Coulson.

Add to the fact that Cameron has been ruthless with party dissent with the 'modernisation' i.e new new Labour rebranding, is it a suprise that people are not falling in the ditch for him? Really?

The raison d'etre of the Cameroon project was the alleged 'detoxifcation' of the Tory brand, as the faux Tories would 'bang on about' endlessly. Looks like we will need a de-detoxification project after Cameron, any ideas?

RCE

Or maybe they know something we don't?

Vulture

What Scary Biscuits said, with knobs on.

Cameron has peed over his party's principles, its members and its MPs ( all of which he loftily despises) from a great height - and you're surprised that they don't all rush to defend him when he's in the Poo thanx entirely to his own misjudgement.

He and his odious little clique deserves to be deposed for their failings before they do any more damage and if there were any decent plotters ion the party, he would be.

GDT

Now is not the time for the PM to act. This has got some way to go considering the Police investigation has yet to conclude and there is a Judge led public enquiry to follow.
I find it quite refreshing not getting a knee jerk reaction from the Goverment on this. I also think most people will be thoroughly fed up with the story now. In fact I think those pushing the story are starting to sound a bit shrill.
This is only interesting to those with a vested interest and in the Westminster bubble. 90% of the rest of the UK are perfectly indifferent.
TBH other than the Milly Dowler hacking most people would struggle to understand what the fuss is about since most of Joe Public think "most coppers are bent", journalists are "scum who profit out of peoples suffering", and politicians are "in it for themselves". All this has done in reinforce that belief.

MH

Cameron does not need defending because he is the one clearing up the previous Government's mess. Most conservatives do not see this as a party political issue, more of an end to a period cultural poison and incompetence of the police to get to the bottom of matters in their previous investigations. The Andy Coulson link is a red herring to the real issues and of very little interest to normal people.

Dan Grover

I bet they wish Pickles was still secretary. This is just the sort of thing he was good at.

Incidentally, it'll be interesting to see what they do for Question Time. Do they put out a sacrificial lamb, knowing they're going to get (unfairly) mauled anyway? Or put out a fighter to hopefully limit the damage, or even "win" over the public? Someone like Grant Shapps would be good - he's popular, young and good at scrapping whilst not coming across as too partisan.

Fiona

The reason is any sensible person can see that his his appointment of Andy Coulson was indefensible, and he is damaged goods.

It actually doesn't matter that Labour were in government for most of this saga, and it sounds increasingly desperate to keep bleating on as though Cameron hasn't been Prime Minister for well over a year.

It's surely only a matter of when Cameron goes, rather than if.

Verity

David Ossitt and Scary Biscuits both took the words right out of my mouth. I was about to write the words, "No one likes him."

David Ossitt

Jayu

“James, the hackneyed line "it's all Labour's fault" as had its day.”

Oh no, it has not.

We must never ever forget that this country has been brought down low by the incompetent band of socialists who formed the most dysfunctional government that this country has ever had.

If there were justice in this land most if not all of Blair and Brown’s coterie of cretins would be behind bars, or left hanging from lamp posts.

michael

I suspect the PM's line is one of calm down and common sense.
It's perfectly obvious that EM's morally pompous, hypocritically holier than thou, huffing and preening will only serve to provoke knee jerk regulation... that'll prove unworkable.

London Calling

To be honest, its the Coulson mud that sticks...

The PM has already stated at PMQ'S that he takes full responsibility for his actions and who he employs, however he hasn’t taken any action or acted responsibly, otherwise like R.Brooks he would have offered his resignation . Instead he has a convenient tendency to disappear just when you need him, Canary wharf and now S.Afica, I agree Clegg should have gone...we’re in meltdown here and it appears we have a leader without a leg to stand on whilst his supporters are simply lost for words...

Andrew

With everything going on in the world, the "hacking" story is just a distraction.

Listening to victims on TV, you get the impression people think their "live calls" were listened to.

This whole episode is Britain and the press at its worse.

I like:
David Cameron
George Osbourne
The Times and Sunday Times

I dislike the Balls family and Ed Milliband - almost as much as I dislike the BBC.

I never read News of the World or the Sun or the Mirror.

What a shame that David Milliband didn't win!

TomTom

"wondering where their party chairman "

Isn't that her in the photograph....in pink ?

dorothy wilson

There is a police investigation under way. No one has been charged never mind found guilty. Until that happens all those involved are entitled to a presumption of innocence.

Also, until charges are made all those in the media - and politicians - should keep quiet. If they do not, if and when charges are made the defence lawyers will no doubt claim their clients' right to a fair trial has been jeopardised.

And someone needs to remind Milliminor that Labour is in no position to cast the first stone. Afterall, when in power they plagarised a student thesis to justify a war that was, in all probability, illegal.

And Millim

commentator

Why would MPs rush to defened a leader who has routinely hung members of his own party out to dry unless they were members of his inner clique? Loyalty is a two-way street.

Tiberius

I would imagine that an issue, which has become as serious as this, requires Cameron himself to deal with it. This he will do on Wednesday. There are too many bear-traps waiting for the unwary.

The premature ejaculation sweeping so many of the juvenile idiots in the Bubble is truly pathetic, but no less dangerous for it. I see Crick almost did himself a mischief trying to nail Boris.

Tomorrow will be another day in this chimps' tea party, when Jock, JR, and Kristen are up before Parliament; seconds of jelly and ice cream all round, then.

What we want here is to see criminals prosecuted. As far as Cameron is concerned, he hasn't committed a crime and isn't (yet!) being accused of having done so. He's explained the judgement call on Coulson, which based on precedent, is perfectly adequate. But those over-excited kids...

rastern

Teresa May just did so in the House of Commons.

Anxiously Stable

You mean to say that the redoubtable efforts of your very own Toby Young have failed to deflect attention away from the PM?

What is the world coming to when such well-researched and exemplary journalism is ignored by the world at large.

strapworld

When Cameron has ignored time after time his tory back benchers. When he has given much to the Liberal Demiocrats and ignored the tory party can you wonder why they do not come out in his defence.

Cameron should stand up in the commons and say "I have let my Country and my party down. I have let my coalition partners down. I am going to the palace to resign and will hand over the reigns to......."

Gawain

If our media was free, robust and independent No. 10 wouldn't need to spin in this way. You seem to be suggesting that journalists will only print stories that are written for them.

It looks to me as if the BBC and the press oligarchs have destroyed the free press and will soon festroy this government, ably assisted by the Labour Party. The Guardian can be renamed 'Pravda' and everything else van be merged into a journal called 'Isvestia'.

Liz Brown

It could just be that the Government, Ministers and etcs have detached themselves from the Westminster bubble and are getting on with governing the country - ie things that matter to real people. Enough of this hysteria - the Euro is tanking and all you can witter on about is this crap............

Jimmy

Praetorians? I think you'll find it's all private security nowadays.

Tiberius

Dan G: QT is in summer recess. Dimbleby must be spitting blood. As for Pickles, as good a minister as he may be, he was mugged on QT over second homes. He had a perfectly good story for his residential arrangements, but failed to articulate it properly. It is hard (even for good people) to be heard over the baying mob.

canonalberic

Absolutely amazing. The mortal enemies of "right-thinking people" ie the Guardian and BBC could hardly have dared hope that Andy Coulson could be used to spin such a crisis for Cameron (and I still struggle to understand what he might have actually done that is so wrong) but then Dave has deadlier enemies in the melodramatically stupid right-wing media than he has in the left establishment and you have fallen over yourselves to do the bidding of much smarter players. Blair was wrong: its not Labour that loves opposition its the "true flamers" in the conservative party.

So the answer to strapworlds question is very simple its not UKIP its Ed Milliband - brilliant, well done....

MacGuffin

They're not coming out in support of him BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE HIM. It's not difficult, really, is it?

The Grey Suits march this week. It's going to be Gove v Davis, with May possibly in it as well. The absurd Hague will surely be dissuaded by sensible Tories.

adam

The trouble is most of Cameron big guns are blairites: Gove, Osborne,Hunt and are very friendly with News International themselves. They may end up getting targeted that's why they're keeping their heads down.

Perhaps the "clean" ones like Ken Clarke, William Hague, Dominic Grieve etc could come instead. Remember The Sun tearing Ken Clarke apart a few months ago?

Occasional Ostrich

Oh yes, Caligula had a praetorian guard too, didn't he?

TomTom

"Until that happens all those involved are entitled to a presumption of innocence. "

Of course, but now go and look up Jonathan Rees

Private Schultz

GDT, MH, Michael, dorothy wilson, Tiberius, Gawain, and Andrew - good to see there are some commenters on here who aren't swept up by the media frenzy on this.

I don't condone any illegal activities, and I think all perpetrators should be rooted out and prosecuted by Weeting and the official enquiry. But it's getting to the stage where it could backfire on the Guardian, BBC, EdM etc, since anyone who is charged stands an increasingly good chance of claiming that a fair trial will not be possible because of all the public speculation and rabble-rousing that has been going on.

Such sloppy journalism too in many cases - for example, repeated references to 4000 people hacked. No, 4000 numbers found in Mulcaire's notes. As far as I'm aware, there is no evidence in the public domain to suggest that all these were hacked. Maybe they didn't get round to trying them all. Perhaps some of the 4000 bothered to change their message password, and others have friends who just leave a sensible 'call me' message, rather than pouring their hearts out to a box. It's quite bad enough without exaggeration.

Herbert Thornton

strapworld -

I agree almost entirely. But wouldn't it be a bit presumptuous for Cameron to tell the Queen to whom the reins must be handed over? Unless the Tory Party elects a new leader, I think that it's still the prerogative of the Queen to send for a potential Prime Minister and to offer him (or her) the opportunity tpo form a government?

Gawain -

I very much share your apprehensions, though I doubt that Murdoch actually intended to destroy the free press.

Boudicca

Chickens coming home to roost now.

Cameron has a small core team of people like him; he has alienated Conservative MPs and the whole of the Conservative Party.

Why should they go out to bat for him when he makes it perfectly clear that he would rather operate on the liberal left of the Conservative party and do deals with the LibDims to retain power than adapt to his own Party.

Where are the Tory attack dogs who speak 'normal' to the average voter - the likes of Tebbitt, or Davis, or Howard or Widdecombe - there are none. He is running a Government of privileged, privately educated liberal-conservatives and the Party doesn't much care for either him or it.

What he fails to understand is that the issue which has divided the Conservatives for 40 years - the EU - is now THE major issue facing the country - and he is on the wrong side of the argument.

pixijade

Clegg is only defending Cameron, because his job depends on him surviving, the backbench tories owe Cameron nothing.

Leon

If nobody likes him why does he have the highest ratings of the three party leaders despite the overblown hype going around? The Tory right don't like him as they see him as betraying true Tory policies - you know - the ones that the public rejected for 13 years. I'm a conservative voter but am embarassed by the stupidity of many on the right who somehow believe that in coalition you can implement all your policies and basically stuff the liberal democrats. Milliband is like an excited schoolboy who has suddenly found that he can do something well - his NI ramblings are his modern day equivalent of a Rubik's Cube - something to be faintly admired but ultimately a waste of time. Labour are trying desperately to make Cameron guilty by association and I believe they should just be a bit careful of being too superior. It's not that long ago that 3 of their MPs got banged up for fraud. Before making judgements just ask yourselves first - is Coulson guilty? He has been arrested but bailed until October and vehemently denies wrongdoing. Will all those slating him apologise if he is cleared - I doubt it. If we find he is guilty then the question is whether Cameron was right to employ him given that Coulson gave him assurances and whether there was any solid evidence to refute these assurances other than politically motivated gossip e.g. from Alan Rusbridger. If there was evidence why didn't the holders of that information bring it forward - it would have been electoral dynamite. I think it's time for everyone to go away, have a holiday and let the investigations take their course. I'm sure that Cameron will take this line on Wednesday and rebut a lot of the wild accusations. I wouldn't blame him though if he thought stuff the lot of you and resigned and then where would the Tory right be - where they like to be i.e. in dreamland and out of power for another 10 years. Think on and get behind the best option you have.

TGF UKIP

Nothing could more accurately demonstrate the depths of the trouble that Dave is in than the tone of this Forsyth post. You really are seriously worried for your icon aren't you James, and so you should be.

Rarely can Tory regicide have been more justifiable and if the Tory Party was as ruthless as so often protrayed then the riding crops would even now be beating down on his clinging fingertips to dislodge them.

Indeed, what may be Dave's best chance of survival is the beloved Coalition which he lied to create, with the thought of Clegg, Cable and Huhne effectively having a veto on the choice of replacement Tory Leader being simply too much for the Party to contemplate.

For now, though James, all you and your fellow courtiers can do is hope that Rebekah Brooks takes the heat off her mate by shifting a liberal amount of shit onto the Brown Bunker when she appears before the Committee tomorrow.

alcazar

Did you check if Lord Ashcroft is available to tour the TV stations in support of Cameron?

2trueblue

Remind me never to rely on 95% of the above for crisis management advice. Cameron is perceived to be in the eye of the storm which has been wonderfully orchestrated by the media. If the party change leadership because of this, then we will have Millipde and Liebore and we know how good they are at clearing up a mess? Remember the expenses clean up? This is all so hysterical, and utterly stupid. Calm down, this thing has more legs than the millipede, and right now it is just hot air. Cameron has actually set the clean up process.

Verity

Well said, Boudicca!

Lonesome Dave

I think that a reality check is needed friends.

DC is what we've got and is as good as there is in the Party. Show a bit of bloody backbone, everyone, and support the team against the current innuendo from the BBC/Guardian/Labour axis of evil.

Consider the alternative!!

Dennis Churchill

Cameron is not trusted by the grass roots because of his “Cast Iron Guarantee.” Every time he makes a concession to the EU the term “Vichy” or “Quisling “is muttered. The “Guarantee” was a huge mistake.
The political class, which includes the media, do not understand how opinion on the EU has gone from annoyance to anger particularly among Conservative party members. Uncontrolled immigration, green taxes and now bail outs. Cameron and his EU pensioner Deputy are too associated with these issues. They would like an excuse to get rid of him.
The betting is a right wing Euro sceptic leader could win an election and even if he didn’t a Labour or Lab/Lib government would be short lived.

Baron

commentator @ 4.45 has the answer, and possibly this: the boy is vacuous of principle, trust, convictions, policies, who on earth would defend a vacuum, it kills, no oxygen around.

Alice

Leon - Thank you for talking sense about the 'dreamland' the right inhabit where they fondly imagine UKIP storming to victory. Double ham and eggs anyone?

rosie

Why is everyone so suggestible? If they let themselves be persuaded David D could carry the country with him, then they deserve to have Mrs Balls as their next long serving PM.

Cheap Steve

I haven't even read the article, but suggesting that the leader in a modern-day 'democracy' needs an elite troop of hired mercenaries to go round killing off his opponents is, frankly, irresponsible.

Axstane

Constantine I understood the Praetorian Guard all too well. He disbanded them and destroyed their barracks. Prior to that they had killed no fewer than 8 Emperors and one of the assassins, Philip the Arab was Emperor for 5 years.

So, Cameron needs no Praetorian Guard of that type even though it exists in the Commons party being the regular dissenters who wish to overthrow him. Fairly simply we know that the Cosnervatives can only command, at most, about 38% of the vote. That means there are always 62% naturally opposed to Cameron. Of the 38% it seems from these blogs that at least half are hell-bent on bringing down the Coalition in the fond hope that the new Government will be a Hefferite one headed by a "real Conservative" or even that there will another General Election in which Farage's odd lot will sweep up 60 or 70 seats. The term used to be "pipe-dreams" from those who smoked opium.

It is fascinating to see the frenzy of this lemming-like activity displayed as an unthinking and purely destructive set of prejudices.

Cameron has very little to answer for - in fact just that he employed Coulson - the rest is all artifical flavouring. Few were in favour of that - I was certainly opposed but I am even more opposed to another Labour government. For heaven's sake imagine 10 years with Ed Miliband as Prime Minister! At my age it would matter little to me but I would advise every capable person under 40 to emigrate the day that Miliband came into No.10.

There are a lot of you here who voice their prejudices against Cameron virtually daily - even as to his complexion or style of dress - and have done so since he came into power, a never-ending and unchanging litany. I could find myself hoping that you actually get what you wish for and deserve if it were not for the innocent citizens who will suffer so badly if you ever did get your cantankerous way.

daniel maris

Axstane -

Wasn't the suggestion that he appointed AC at the urging of Rebekah Brooks and James Murdoch, whereas his original choice had been the BBC's Gitta Harri?

Baron

Axstane @ 10.38:

at the last count, the boy couldn’t defeat a man who was unquestionably the worst PM ever, and that holds for the next 100 years, too. That, my blogging friend, slices it for me.

Stelios928

Say what ever you want about the Brits and especially their PMs. They all are eloquent speakers, unlike even our present President who cannot speak extemporaneously for more than a few minutes.

prziloczek

That is what happens when you form a tiny little cabal and exclude all the others. The Prime Minister, in his hour of need has even been deserted by that cabal itself.
But what this scandal shows is the complete lack of moral fibre in Westminster and Scotland Yard and Wapping.

Meanwhile, Europe and the USA are going bust and - hey - who cares?

George Mitrovich

Mr Forsyth’s has a rather curious take on the great British press/power elite melt down. He writes that what’s needed is for media savvy Conservative MPs to go on the telly and defend the Prime Minister.

Seriously?

That’s it?

Put your best people before the cameras and let them explain why the guilt attributed the PM for the hacking scandal is unfair, that Labour also has much to answer for.

What’s needed in Great Britain, and over here in the USA, is an in-depth look as to whether there is any standard the press is prepared to defend other than its own freedom? To ask what moral values, if any, it deems sacred?

David Carr, writing in The New York Times on Mr Murdoch and his media holdings, said there is a “pathology” that needs examination. Indeed, but it must go beyond IN and The News of the World.

George Mitrovich
San Diego

john lea

I also agree with Boudicea. Why would any 'real' Tory support Cameron? Too many people (most of them regular bloggers on this website) let themselves be fooled by Cameron and his PR team, thinking he was actually conservative, when anyone could see that he is in fact a liberal masquerading as a Tory. The same bloggers attacked people like Verity time and again for being negative about their glorious leader, and now look at him. Don't those same people feel slightly silly now, or at the very least feel that they have been conned by this rather shifty character who occupies number 10?

Minnie Ovens

Mrs Rochester's rant in the last debate must have scared them

I like that one saddleworth.
Possibly the Conservative party are not too sure of the economic brilliance of the Cameron "borrow to squander" policy.
Doubling the IMF contribution and dropping £3/4 billion to the Afghanis in one week is, after all, a real vote winner.

Jerry

I have spoken to two Tory Mp's in the last couple of weeks.When the subject of Cameron came up one found something very interesting to study on the ceiling and the other changed the subject. Neither said a word in his favour.
A third one within earshot grinned from afar.
Revealing?

RocketDog

Just been watching the sh*tstorm unfolding on the Telegraph live video link
What immediately struck me was how pathetic Stephenson seemed in the face of two-dimensional questioning from teenage barrister MP's - and how shifty Mr Vaz looked sitting at the head of the charade.
As my aged Aunt Magaret said the last time that we discussed politics. "Where have all the big men gone?" Sadly I don't think that it is Nigeria. Time for a change, and I don't think that we are just talking about Mr Cameron

New Britannia

(i)Am I the only reader who doesn't really care at all about the phone hacking "scandal"? Everyone with a brain knows that tabloid journalists are pond life. Let's punish those who behaved in a criminal manner, but not waste time being outraged. Events like this are the occasional price we pay for a free press, to me a price well worth paying.

(ii) Cameron employed a man and sacked him as soon as it became relatively clear that his past rendered him unsuitable for the job. He does not have anything to apologise for. The braying imbeciles at the guardian and bbc are only peddling this story for their own benefit.

David Smart

Thank you Alice and Leon, I am amazed at how foolish and asinine are the beliefs that getting rid of cameron is the answer to everything, we are in a coalition and whatever our wishes or dreams are there is nothing to be done.Oh I know that we are virgins at this kind of government, but it takes an adult to work through the requirements of running the country with a partner party.here is the nub of it, we should be concentrating on putting the country to rights, not fighting on personalities and back stabbing. Do you really want to give succour to our enemies at the BBC and the Balls Two,and all their sycophantic followers.We have a job to do that can give back our country to those who have contributed something,our audience of hard working people are sick and tired of hearing the coterie of interested groups who rely on the benefit society,the bands of proffesionals who rely on public service sector apologists and their interested followers,and all those who wish to see "The Socialist Repulic of Great Britain" to be a reality.Let us speak up and forget the hacking,it's just tidying up that is needed now. Get back to those things that are important- the burying of any notion of socialist tax and spend policies that would return under Milliband.Support for Cameron may stick in your graw but think on, we owe it to ourselves and the country.

Keith

Cameron is busily re-toxifying his own party with his health service reforms, which he pledged not to carry out,and by his dodgy-looking associations with big business - ie. News International, to name but 2 things. Perhaps some in his party are edging away from him because of this?